Star Wars Episode 7 Discussion with SPOILERS

Jason P

I thought Chewie would bite the bullet in this one, mainly because the guy how plays him has to use a cane to get around and it can't be easy to move in that costume.

Han's ending surprised me.

Jason P

Anyone find it odd the Phasma gave in so easily?

eddiec

Jason P said:

Anyone find it odd the Phasma gave in so easily?

Jason P said:

Anyone find it odd the Phasma gave in so easily?

Yeah, she was hyped up to be this bad ass stormtrooper but cool uniform aside, kind of a wuss.

eldarion75

Luke is Reys father. Here's my way to prove it

Few things In the interrogation Kylo sees into her mind and sees the ocean and an island. She has been there before or is so strong in the force (albeit unknowingly) that she's seeing her own future in a foretelling as Jedi can do.
His interrogation of her seems to be the thing that either awakens the force in her Or more interestingly breaks whatever seal has been put on her and her memory presumably by Luke?
In the final scene it's clear she knows him as she starts to cry when he removes his hood. And he clearly knows her too. Also, fairly certain he's standing by a grave in that scene, there's a little headstone popping up to his left. Her mothers grave?
Her being han and leias isnt possible. Why would they be all sad about Their son lost to the dark side and not one mention or even hint at their 'lost' daughter.
It is possible that they both know Rey though, and know that she was hidden in jakku but Can't reveal her lineage as it isn't their place, but they want to protect her anyways so Han offers her a job -
An this is the key to her being Lukes daughter-Leia decides to send her to find Luke. Why doesn't leia go? Why else send a girl who's she's never met?
Could only be cos she's Lukes daughter.
We don't know that Kylo didn't kill Lukes wife/Reys mom.
*this would give the Rey / Kylo dynamic some serious oomph.


Perhaps Reys flashback is actually stuff that happened to her mother??
It'd make sense especially when we see the soldier about to hit her and kylos lightsaber skewering the guy?


But almost certain Luke is standing by a grave in the final shot.

Poncier

Plus also didn't Rey have a vision of Kylo striking down Luke (seen in robe with mechanical hand) when she first picked up his light saber from the storage box. That scene is what convinced me she is Luke's daughter.

eldarion75

You're almost right but you don't know if it's Luke or who it is in the vision about to be hit. No way I hell would Kylo be able to strike Luke down. I mean he could try but cmon.

More likely that it's Reys mother or a flash forward of what's to happen to Rey herself.

JK_Livin

eldarion75 said:

Luke is Reys father. Here's my way to prove it

Few things In the interrogation Kylo sees into her mind and sees the ocean and an island. She has been there before or is so strong in the force (albeit unknowingly) that she's seeing her own future in a foretelling as Jedi can do.
His interrogation of her seems to be the thing that either awakens the force in her Or more interestingly breaks whatever seal has been put on her and her memory presumably by Luke?
In the final scene it's clear she knows him as she starts to cry when he removes his hood. And he clearly knows her too. Also, fairly certain he's standing by a grave in that scene, there's a little headstone popping up to his left. Her mothers grave?
Her being han and leias isnt possible. Why would they be all sad about Their son lost to the dark side and not one mention or even hint at their 'lost' daughter.
It is possible that they both know Rey though, and know that she was hidden in jakku but Can't reveal her lineage as it isn't their place, but they want to protect her anyways so Han offers her a job -
An this is the key to her being Lukes daughter-Leia decides to send her to find Luke. Why doesn't leia go? Why else send a girl who's she's never met?
Could only be cos she's Lukes daughter.
We don't know that Kylo didn't kill Lukes wife/Reys mom.
*this would give the Rey / Kylo dynamic some serious oomph.


Perhaps Reys flashback is actually stuff that happened to her mother??
It'd make sense especially when we see the soldier about to hit her and kylos lightsaber skewering the guy?


But almost certain Luke is standing by a grave in the final shot.

Nice post. I was on the edge of my seat for that final scene focusing on Luke. I didn't notice anything in that scene other than Luke, Rey and a lightsaber.

eldarion75

Also. There was a scene of leia and Chewie consoling each other and they get interrupted by a droid and Chewie rips it's arm off. It got cut cos Disney

Dr. Delight

eldarion75 said:

Also. There was a scene of leia and Chewie consoling each other and they get interrupted by a droid and Chewie rips it's arm off. It got cut cos Disney

Ahh, so thats why after Hans death, we only see Chewie and Leia exchange sad glances in the theatrical cut. I found it a little odd there wasnt a physical interaction, they just cut to Leia consoling Rey.

SVRDhand13

tempo_n_groove said:

SVRDhand13 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Wasn't it really similar to a new hope? Pretty much a remake? Loved it but the more I think about it the more I feel like I just watched a remake

Yes and I think the entire trilogy will replicate parts 4-6

That's why my theory is that in the next movie the "I am your father" line will be used, this time Luke talking to Rey.

I hope that you are wrong abut that. The father thing was used already. Give us a new storyline please.

Maybe leia will say "rey I am your mother" lol

Poncier

eldarion75 said:

You're almost right but you don't know if it's Luke or who it is in the vision about to be hit. No way I hell would Kylo be able to strike Luke down. I mean he could try but cmon.

More likely that it's Reys mother or a flash forward of what's to happen to Rey herself.

We very clearly saw Luke's mechanical hand. And perhaps Kylo strikes Luke down in the same manner as Vader strikes Obi Wan down, Luke allows it.

Spoony C

Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh said:

What are the best books to read for post return of the Jedi stuff?

The older books have a few gems, like the aforementioned Timothy Zahn trilogy ("Heir to the Empire" and its sequels), but keep in mind that all of that stuff has been removed from the official timeline so that the new movies don't have to follow the books' map. It's fun stuff to read, but doesn't shade in the time between Jedi and Force Awakens, because it's been wiped out.

There is a new wave of books, from kids' fare through young-adult, and into more general readership, all tagged under "Journey to the Force Awakens" or somesuch banner. I read the first novel in Chuck Wendig's new "Aftermath" trilogy (the only one published so far), and it was a decent read--a mix of familiar characters in small roles with a new cast of rebels and villains in the months following Return of the Jedi, as the Empire struggles to hold on to what it still has. Worth a library check-out, or a discount purchase, but I wouldn't pay full hardcover price for it just yet.

Merkin Baller

eldarion75 said:

Luke is Reys father. Here's my way to prove it

Few things In the interrogation Kylo sees into her mind and sees the ocean and an island. She has been there before or is so strong in the force (albeit unknowingly) that she's seeing her own future in a foretelling as Jedi can do.
His interrogation of her seems to be the thing that either awakens the force in her Or more interestingly breaks whatever seal has been put on her and her memory presumably by Luke?
In the final scene it's clear she knows him as she starts to cry when he removes his hood. And he clearly knows her too. Also, fairly certain he's standing by a grave in that scene, there's a little headstone popping up to his left. Her mothers grave?
Her being han and leias isnt possible. Why would they be all sad about Their son lost to the dark side and not one mention or even hint at their 'lost' daughter.
It is possible that they both know Rey though, and know that she was hidden in jakku but Can't reveal her lineage as it isn't their place, but they want to protect her anyways so Han offers her a job -
An this is the key to her being Lukes daughter-Leia decides to send her to find Luke. Why doesn't leia go? Why else send a girl who's she's never met?
Could only be cos she's Lukes daughter.
We don't know that Kylo didn't kill Lukes wife/Reys mom.
*this would give the Rey / Kylo dynamic some serious oomph.


Perhaps Reys flashback is actually stuff that happened to her mother??
It'd make sense especially when we see the soldier about to hit her and kylos lightsaber skewering the guy?


But almost certain Luke is standing by a grave in the final shot.

I'm 100% on board with you on Luke being Rey's father. Going into the movie, I was under the assumption she was Han & Leia's daughter (idk why I thought this, I just did), but after seeing the movie, I'm pretty convinced it's Luke.

& yes, I also saw a grave.

JWPearl

Merkin Baller said:

eldarion75 said:

Luke is Reys father. Here's my way to prove it

Few things In the interrogation Kylo sees into her mind and sees the ocean and an island. She has been there before or is so strong in the force (albeit unknowingly) that she's seeing her own future in a foretelling as Jedi can do.
His interrogation of her seems to be the thing that either awakens the force in her Or more interestingly breaks whatever seal has been put on her and her memory presumably by Luke?
In the final scene it's clear she knows him as she starts to cry when he removes his hood. And he clearly knows her too. Also, fairly certain he's standing by a grave in that scene, there's a little headstone popping up to his left. Her mothers grave?
Her being han and leias isnt possible. Why would they be all sad about Their son lost to the dark side and not one mention or even hint at their 'lost' daughter.
It is possible that they both know Rey though, and know that she was hidden in jakku but Can't reveal her lineage as it isn't their place, but they want to protect her anyways so Han offers her a job -
An this is the key to her being Lukes daughter-Leia decides to send her to find Luke. Why doesn't leia go? Why else send a girl who's she's never met?
Could only be cos she's Lukes daughter.
We don't know that Kylo didn't kill Lukes wife/Reys mom.
*this would give the Rey / Kylo dynamic some serious oomph.


Perhaps Reys flashback is actually stuff that happened to her mother??
It'd make sense especially when we see the soldier about to hit her and kylos lightsaber skewering the guy?


But almost certain Luke is standing by a grave in the final shot.

I'm 100% on board with you on Luke being Rey's father. Going into the movie, I was under the assumption she was Han & Leia's daughter (idk why I thought this, I just did), but after seeing the movie, I'm pretty convinced it's Luke.

& yes, I also saw a grave.

i believe this too...
and everybody keeps mentioning it...

JTH

I like the Rey is Luke's daughter hypothesis and yes, it sure looks like Luke is standing next to a grave.

As for the plausibility of Finn and Rey holding their own during the lightsaber duel scene -- Chewie winged Kylo Ren with a shot from his bowcaster moments before. it is made quite clear throughout the movie that this weapon packs some serious fucking punch.

JimmyV

It wasn't the biggest moment in the film but Chewie hitting Ren with that shot was one of my favorites. Vader would have been able to block that blast. Palpatine too. Ren isn't as powerful yet. Plus, after seeing Han die, I was glad Chewie got to inflict some damage. I hope he gets more revenge as the trilogy rolls on.

jervin007

Wma31394 said:

jervin007 said:

The more I think about it, i actually am more interested is Finn's role in the future movies than Rey's. We all know that Rey has some connection to a major force player, but what about Finn? Trailers sold you that it was Finn who had the force, but that ended up not being the case. He's not a kick ass pilot either. What is his role going to be going forward?

Mace Windu's offspring

He would be way older if he was Mace's kid. If he has any ties to a past character I would guess its Lando.

Merkin Baller

jervin007 said:

Wma31394 said:

jervin007 said:

The more I think about it, i actually am more interested is Finn's role in the future movies than Rey's. We all know that Rey has some connection to a major force player, but what about Finn? Trailers sold you that it was Finn who had the force, but that ended up not being the case. He's not a kick ass pilot either. What is his role going to be going forward?

Mace Windu's offspring

He would be way older if he was Mace's kid. If he has any ties to a past character I would guess its Lando.

Where the hell is Lando anyway?

& how quickly do you think he moved in on Leia once Han left her how many years ago? Han probably hadn't even left the system yet.

SMH

Re Ren getting beaten. He's obviously both inexperienced & very conflicted in general. As powerful as he is, I think Finn & Rey each (yes Finn too) have a lot of untapped potential too that he wasn't expecting.

Add in the fact that Chewie just shot his ass & what do you expect?

Thoughts_Arrive

Some of you mentioned that Luke wiped Rey's memory before abandoning her.
I have never known of Jedi's being able to do that, it never happened in the previous films.
Everyone seems to be guessing Rey is Luke's daughter. I'd laugh if the next one proves us wrong with a big twist. What if Rey is a former pupil of Luke's? The only survivor who was sent to Jakku to protect her fro Kylo?

JTH

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Some of you mentioned that Luke wiped Rey's memory before abandoning her.
I have never known of Jedi's being able to do that, it never happened in the previous films.
Everyone seems to be guessing Rey is Luke's daughter. I'd laugh if the next one proves us wrong with a big twist. What if Rey is a former pupil of Luke's? The only survivor who was sent to Jakku to protect her fro Kylo?

She took the blue pill.