Star Wars Episode 7 Discussion with SPOILERS

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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    edited December 2015
    I was so blown away at this awesome movie. I couldn't fall asleep after coming home as I kept thinking about it. And the next day I kept reading people's theories. The wait for the next movies will seem so long, cannot wait, also cannot wait for the blu ray release.
    I was so bummed Han died, couldn't stop thinking about it, so sad. I had a feeling he would get killed in that confrontation with Kylo.
    Can't believe his son could do that.

    I think Rey could be Luke's daughter, but...aren't Jedi's not meant to fall in love? It is forbidden.
    If Rey is Kylo's sister then how is there an age difference, Kylo seems to be older. How could she not remember her brother and he her? Howcome Han and Leia didn't talk about her as their daughter and only talked about their lost son?

    I loved the scenery, the snowy forest, the ocean island at the end, the mountains on the Star Killer Base, the crashed Imperial ship on Jakku, the appearance of Luke.
    In some web pages I read that Luke was standing next to a grave. Could that be his wife or another child that was killed by Kylo?

    Could Snoke be Darth Plageuis who has cheated death to return as the new master of the dark side? And how did he seduce Kylo to the dark side?

    So many theories, such a great movie.

    I wish JJ was directing all three movies, he did such a great job, I don't want the next director to screw it up.

    Question, did Finn die or not? I thought he was dead after that dual with Kylo.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,624
    Nobody had problems with this movie? Holy cow!

    So I think that Rey is Luke's kid.

    I really hope that Kylo becomes an even badder Jedi then faces Rey then loses… Oh yeah that'll be in episode IX...

  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Poncier said:

    eddiec said:



    -I know Ren was hit with Chewie's bow but I wish they had injured him more. It seemed a tad far fetched that Rey was holding her own against him.
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    My take is that if Rey is Luke's daughter (which is what I felt they pointed to), she would be much stronger with the Force than Kylo. Leia doesn't have nearly the powers of the force that Luke has, she has more of a sense and perception from it, so her offspring would likely not be as powerful as Luke's offspring. So even though Kylo has been trained (though not completed training), Rey has more natural Force ability that she just started to realize (hence the title of the film).
    Right, I was under the impression that Kylo is an apprentice Sith, not even of full power yet. We will see his rise.
    He got shot by Chewie, damaged him badly, Finn sliced him I believe and by the time Rey squared off with him he was in bad shape. Using her abilities, she was able to thwart him off.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Merkin Baller said:


    Han's demise by his son's hand was spoiled for me online, so I rushed out & saw it today before anything else could be ruined.

    10/10, I can't wait to see it again...... Hopefully w/ my 8 year old nephew who also loves Star Wars.

    I kept away from the internet until after I saw it.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Merkin Baller said:


    Han's demise by his son's hand was spoiled for me online, so I rushed out & saw it today before anything else could be ruined.

    10/10, I can't wait to see it again...... Hopefully w/ my 8 year old nephew who also loves Star Wars.

    Yeah, some dickhead I follow on Twitter posted "Han solo dies" and that was it. I wasn't 100% sure if it was true or not so it wasn't completely spoiled
    Next time stay away from Twitter, Facebook, Reddit (which spoiled it for a guy I know).
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Meesa thinks Snoke is Jar Jar.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Part of me likes the theory that Snoke might be Darth Plageuis...but most of me just hopes they leave the prequels to rot.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,624
    Jason P said:

    Meesa thinks Snoke is Jar Jar.

    Jar Jar has to be the worst character in a film ever. The new droid started to annoy me too.

    Also where has this Snoke person been lurking all this time?
  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    Jason P said:

    Meesa thinks Snoke is Jar Jar.

    Haha all in all very solid movie. I agree with many of things you guys have said..the kylo/Rey light saber battle could have been better with kylo being more of a badass. Not sure who luke would have conceived Rey with..leia?? Haha I mean he did kiss her in new hope.. Eww I'm leaning towards she is kylos sister.

    I was hoping luke would "force" the saber out of her hands and strike her down. Now there's a villain!! I also hope mark hamel didn't cash a paycheck for his efforts.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Wasn't it really similar to a new hope? Pretty much a remake? Loved it but the more I think about it the more I feel like I just watched a remake

    Yes and I think the entire trilogy will replicate parts 4-6

    That's why my theory is that in the next movie the "I am your father" line will be used, this time Luke talking to Rey.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    JimmyV said:

    Part of me likes the theory that Snoke might be Darth Plageuis...but most of me just hopes they leave the prequels to rot.

    Who is that? From a book?
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,624
    SVRDhand13 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Wasn't it really similar to a new hope? Pretty much a remake? Loved it but the more I think about it the more I feel like I just watched a remake

    Yes and I think the entire trilogy will replicate parts 4-6

    That's why my theory is that in the next movie the "I am your father" line will be used, this time Luke talking to Rey.
    I hope that you are wrong abut that. The father thing was used already. Give us a new storyline please.
  • Wma31394
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    jervin007 said:

    The more I think about it, i actually am more interested is Finn's role in the future movies than Rey's. We all know that Rey has some connection to a major force player, but what about Finn? Trailers sold you that it was Finn who had the force, but that ended up not being the case. He's not a kick ass pilot either. What is his role going to be going forward?

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    JK_Livin said:

    JimmyV said:

    Part of me likes the theory that Snoke might be Darth Plageuis...but most of me just hopes they leave the prequels to rot.

    Who is that? From a book?
    He is the Sith lord Palpatine tells Anakin about in Episode 3. Supposedly is so powerful he can use the Force to create life.
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  • Jerome230
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    Executive producer Kathleen Kennedy has confirmed that Captain Phasma will return for episode 8. I really hope that Phasma gets to show what she's capable of.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Agreed on Phasma. Definitely looking forward to learning more about the First Order in episode 8.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    JimmyV said:

    JK_Livin said:

    JimmyV said:

    Part of me likes the theory that Snoke might be Darth Plageuis...but most of me just hopes they leave the prequels to rot.

    Who is that? From a book?
    He is the Sith lord Palpatine tells Anakin about in Episode 3. Supposedly is so powerful he can use the Force to create life.
    Thanks. Haven't seen 3 in a while
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  • JTH
    JTH Chicago Posts: 3,238
    Thoughts_Arrive said:


    Question, did Finn die or not? I thought he was dead after that dual with Kylo.

    No, he didn't die. When they get him back to the base and are carting him away, one of the medics says "we've got a heartbeat." or something like that
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,963
    JK_Livin said:

    JimmyV said:

    Part of me likes the theory that Snoke might be Darth Plageuis...but most of me just hopes they leave the prequels to rot.

    Who is that? From a book?


    "Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life. He had such a knowledge of the dark side, he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying."
    ―Palpatine[src]

    Darth Plagueis was a male Dark Lord of the Sith and the master of Darth Sidious. He acquired considerable knowledge in the field of midi-chlorian manipulation, but was ultimately betrayed and murdered by his own apprentice, in accordance with the "Rule of Two." Sidious later recounted the tale of his master's demise to lure Anakin Skywalker to the dark side.
  • JTH
    JTH Chicago Posts: 3,238
    JimmyV said:

    Part of me likes the theory that Snoke might be Darth Plageuis...but most of me just hopes they leave the prequels to rot.

    If there is ONE redeeming quality of those movies, it's the interactions between Palpatine/Sidious and Anakin/Vader (except for the "NOOOOOOO!" when our boy learns that his wife is dead). And really, Episode III from the point that Anakin becomes Darth Vader to the end of the flick is pretty fucking solid.

    So I'd be good with Snoke being Plagueis risen from the dead, or laying low for all these years allowing Sidious to believe him to be dead.

    My question is this: is Snoke a giant or is that just the way he has his hologram projected?

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