Bernie Sanders for President

Free · February 2016

Do you realize Obama lost Nevada too? All we have to do is go back eight years and see how things unfolded. Just because the establishment media is saying one thing does not mean they are always correct. Kill your TV. And VOTE!

JimmyV · February 2016

Free said:
You guys really follow polls? Polls are made up and they mean nothing, they really do. It is the manipulation of the media at its finest . Just ignore the news, a lot of bullshit out there. But to mention polls, they are saying that Bernie is ahead of Hillary so what does that say?

It's all about getting out the vote at this point. Get out and vote in the primaries. That's what makes a difference.

Made up polls like in Nevada that actually had Bernie closer than the voters did?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-5337.html

Polls aren't perfect and that is why you look for trends, not at any single result. The trends for Bernie going into Super Tuesday aren't good. Can he still close? Sure. Is it likely? No.

lolobugg · February 2016

Free said:
Do you realize Obama lost Nevada too? All we have to do is go back eight years and see how things unfolded. Just because the establishment media is saying one thing does not mean they are always correct. Kill your TV. And VOTE!

I support this!!!

Free · February 2016

JimmyV said:

Free said:
You guys really follow polls? Polls are made up and they mean nothing, they really do. It is the manipulation of the media at its finest . Just ignore the news, a lot of bullshit out there. But to mention polls, they are saying that Bernie is ahead of Hillary so what does that say?

It's all about getting out the vote at this point. Get out and vote in the primaries. That's what makes a difference.
Made up polls like in Nevada that actually had Bernie closer than the voters did?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-5337.html

Polls aren't perfect and that is why you look for trends, not at any single result. The trends for Bernie going into Super Tuesday aren't good. Can he still close? Sure. Is it likely? No.

But you'll never know for sure until after that day because it all depends on the votes. Yeah, I know the DNC is rigging the election. That should be crucified by the public and the DNC chairwoman should be brought to justice for the illegal behavior of the DNC. The superdelegates eight years ago went with Hillary to remember? Then they went to Obama.

Free · February 2016

lolobugg said:

I support this!!!

Thumbs up.

What they're saying in the media is absolutely atrocious. But people believe it. Now that's really really scary. And it prevents this country for moving forward, and it prevents people from questioning anything. That's probably why we have Trump winning the Republican candidacy. The rest of the world is embarrassed for us. And they're laughing.

Free · February 2016

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lolobugg · February 2016

Free said:

lolobugg said:

I support this!!!

Thumbs up.

What they're saying in the media is absolutely atrocious. But people believe it. Now that's really really scary. And it prevents this country for moving forward, and it prevents people from questioning anything. That's probably why we have Trump winning the Republican candidacy. The rest of the world is embarrassed for us. And they're laughing.

I couldn't believe after the Nevada primary that they were saying Hillary has the nomination in the bag.
I was pretty sure Nevada split delegates but I had to go look it up after seeing this BS.
and also watching Cruz give his "winning" speech in SC had me cracking up.
Media does NOT want Bernie to get the nod.
and WTF to "SuperDelegates"??? this kind of anti-democracy loophole is why I am a registered independent and will NEVER give a red (or blue) cent to the DNC.

Free · February 2016

Totally agree, Lolobugg.

callen · February 2016

Free said:

lolobugg said:

I support this!!!

Thumbs up.

What they're saying in the media is absolutely atrocious. But people believe it. Now that's really really scary. And it prevents this country for moving forward, and it prevents people from questioning anything. That's probably why we have Trump winning the Republican candidacy. The rest of the world is embarrassed for us. And they're laughing.

Dubya II.

callen · February 2016

As to super delegates. If Bernie won majority of regular delegates the super would have to follow. If not they'd be committing shocked a d a real viable third party.

gimmesometruth27 · February 2016

callen said:
As to super delegates. If Bernie won majority of regular delegates the super would have to follow. If not they'd be committing shocked a d a real viable third party.

no, the super delegates would NOT have to follow. they are already in the bag for clinton. if it comes down to super delegates, clinton is your nominee and your next president.

callen · February 2016

gimmesometruth27 said:

callen said:
As to super delegates. If Bernie won majority of regular delegates the super would have to follow. If not they'd be committing shocked a d a real viable third party.
no, the super delegates would NOT have to follow. they are already in the bag for clinton. if it comes down to super delegates, clinton is your nominee and your next president.

They would not have to follow but they would.

gimmesometruth27 · February 2016

callen said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

callen said:
As to super delegates. If Bernie won majority of regular delegates the super would have to follow. If not they'd be committing shocked a d a real viable third party.
no, the super delegates would NOT have to follow. they are already in the bag for clinton. if it comes down to super delegates, clinton is your nominee and your next president.
They would not have to follow but they would.

let's ask debbie wasserman schultz.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-superdelegates-democrats-219286

what dreams · February 2016

I got a Bernie pollster call last night. Pretty much all he wanted to know is if I'm black or Hispanic.

lolobugg · February 2016

what dreams said:
I got a Bernie pollster call last night. Pretty much all he wanted to know is if I'm black or Hispanic.

Are you sure that wasn't Hillary call? Wait didn't ask if you were a woman

Leezestarr313 · February 2016

Free said:
Do you realize Obama lost Nevada too? All we have to do is go back eight years and see how things unfolded. Just because the establishment media is saying one thing does not mean they are always correct. Kill your TV. And VOTE!

Yes! Thank you. I need to become a citizen as soon as I can, so I can fucking vote again too. Sigh.

eddiec · February 2016

In a way, aren't the super delegates basically the same thing as the electoral college but at the primary level?
I know it never happens but technically a candidate could win a state and the electoral college could go the other way if they wanted, no?

JimmyV · February 2016

What are the states that Bernie Sanders is going to win on Super Tuesday?

Which polls are wrong?

What is his path to the nomination?

These are all legitimate questions.

Gern Blansten · February 2016

at this point Sanders only has a chance to win Massachusetts....and Hillary is still favored there

JimmyV · February 2016

Gern Blansten said:
at this point Sanders only has a chance to win Massachusetts....and Hillary is still favored there

Vermont too. But other than that? Being blown out in South Carolina and then being blown out across the South on Super Tuesday...I don't see the case for claiming this is still a competive race. Which is a shame.

brianlux · February 2016

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:
at this point Sanders only has a chance to win Massachusetts....and Hillary is still favored there
Vermont too. But other than that? Being blown out in South Carolina and then being blown out across the South on Super Tuesday...I don't see the case for claiming this is still a competive race. Which is a shame.

A depressing thought, JimmyV. If Sanders gets blown off, the one thing we would do well to remember is that this is a growing movement in today's youth and if so, I hope the younger generations don't flake out like boomers did.

HesCalledDyer · February 2016

eddiec said:
In a way, aren't the super delegates basically the same thing as the electoral college but at the primary level?
I know it never happens but technically a candidate could win a state and the electoral college could go the other way if they wanted, no?

That whole system needs to go away. Delegates, Super Delegates, & Electorates. It should be raw vote count and nothing more or less.

Free · February 2016

Well if that's all of your attitudes that you know exactly how it'll play out with Sanders losing, say hello to Pres Trump because Hillary has no chance at beating him (unless he quits and hands her the election).

Because republicans will come out in droves to ensure she doesn't win.

Free · February 2016

Last I heard, Sanders is favored in MA. See how reliable POLLS are??

lolobugg · February 2016

Free said:
Well if that's all of your attitudes that you know exactly how it'll play out with Sanders losing, say hello to Pres Trump because Hillary has no chance at beating him (unless he quits and hands her the election).

Because republicans will come out in droves to ensure she doesn't win.

Very true....
First a black man and now a woman president... their poor racist, bigot, misogynist hearts couldn't take that.

btw: I don't support Hillary because of her stances on the issues. not because she is a woman.

JimmyV · February 2016

Nate Silver was a Jedi in 2012. Correctly predicted the outcome in every swing state. His website, fivethirtyeight.com, currently gives Secretary Clinton a 60% chance of winning here in Massachusetts.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/massachusetts-democratic/

jeffbr · February 2016

JimmyV said:
Nate Silver was a Jedi in 2012. Correctly predicted the outcome in every swing state. His website, fivethirtyeight.com, currently gives Secretary Clinton a 60% chance of winning here in Massachusetts.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/massachusetts-democratic/

Ha, was just about to post this. He gives Sanders a 66% chance of winning in his polls-only forecast, but Clinton gets the 60% chance of winning in his polls-plus forecast, which includes polls and endorsements. Again, the superdelegates make it so that Sanders can't win.

Gern Blansten · February 2016

brianlux said:

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:
at this point Sanders only has a chance to win Massachusetts....and Hillary is still favored there
Vermont too. But other than that? Being blown out in South Carolina and then being blown out across the South on Super Tuesday...I don't see the case for claiming this is still a competive race. Which is a shame.
A depressing thought, JimmyV. If Sanders gets blown off, the one thing we would do well to remember is that this is a growing movement in today's youth and if so, I hope the younger generations don't flake out like boomers did.

Which might make Clinton need Sanders as VP...to unite the clans

JimmyV · February 2016

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:
at this point Sanders only has a chance to win Massachusetts....and Hillary is still favored there
Vermont too. But other than that? Being blown out in South Carolina and then being blown out across the South on Super Tuesday...I don't see the case for claiming this is still a competive race. Which is a shame.
A depressing thought, JimmyV. If Sanders gets blown off, the one thing we would do well to remember is that this is a growing movement in today's youth and if so, I hope the younger generations don't flake out like boomers did.
Which might make Clinton need Sanders as VP...to unite the clans

Agreed. If there was ever a year for a "unity" ticket this might be it.

lolobugg · February 2016

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:
at this point Sanders only has a chance to win Massachusetts....and Hillary is still favored there
Vermont too. But other than that? Being blown out in South Carolina and then being blown out across the South on Super Tuesday...I don't see the case for claiming this is still a competive race. Which is a shame.
A depressing thought, JimmyV. If Sanders gets blown off, the one thing we would do well to remember is that this is a growing movement in today's youth and if so, I hope the younger generations don't flake out like boomers did.
Which might make Clinton need Sanders as VP...to unite the clans
Agreed. If there was ever a year for a "unity" ticket this might be it.

probably the only way that she will get my vote.

Bernie Sanders for President

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