Bernie Sanders for President

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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    rr165892 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    rr165892 said:

    Oh and Benghazi the issue for me is always the word of those who were there vs the word of the politicians.Im siding with the dudes who were in the shit.

    More people have died in Flint then Benghazi....update your priorities
    Apples and oranges.
    Although They are both horrible,they both happened due to neglect descision making.And incompetent leadership.
    Not by Clinton or Obama.

    It's a red herring RR. Simple as that.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    brianlux said:

    cincybearcat said:

    I understand what you are saying Brian, but I don't think it'll happen anytime soon if at all. I could easily see the 2party system becoming a 4-5 party systems down the line. These marriages of convienience are no longer working

    Most advanced civilizations DO have more that two parties! :lol:
    careful what you wish for. Canada has too many parties at the table. it gets all muddied and you don't know who stands where and there's so much freaking crossover it's tough to keep it straight.

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  • Free
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    FEEL. THE BERN NH!!!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Free said:

    FEEL. THE BERN NH!!!

    :plus_one:
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    It's nice, but it was expected.

    I'm not getting excited until he takes one of these upcoming states in an upset. Minority votes are coming up which doesn't look good. Hillary could also use the nuclear option and get Obama! to endorse her.

    Bernie had a ridiculous favorability/trust rating on the exit polls. Which is nice because these wins get his message seen.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Good for Bernie and nice to see optimism in action.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,183
    There really isn't any dirt on Bernie. He's just a truly honest politician. Hillary wants to tie him to the pro-gun movement but he still has a D rating with the NRA I believe.
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  • rr165892
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    I'm pulling for your boy here.If he gets the nom,you are paving the way for a huge Win in the general for the right.But I think he gets smoked both out west and in the south.
  • dignin
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    rr165892 said:

    I'm pulling for your boy here.If he gets the nom,you are paving the way for a huge Win in the general for the right.But I think he gets smoked both out west and in the south.

    I thought you were an independent?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    One thing I noticed last night was that Sanders does seem to have only one speech. I felt like I heard pretty much the same thing after Iowa. Hillary's meanwhile was much different and geared for the contests to come.
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  • brianlux
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    rr165892 said:

    I'm pulling for your boy here.If he gets the nom,you are paving the way for a huge Win in the general for the right.But I think he gets smoked both out west and in the south.

    Look further west young man!
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  • rgambs
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    rr165892 said:

    I'm pulling for your boy here.If he gets the nom,you are paving the way for a huge Win in the general for the right.But I think he gets smoked both out west and in the south.

    You think Trump can beat Bernie? Ayatollah Cruz?
    You are stuck in the 50s lol
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  • PJPOWER
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    I do find it interesting how after the 1st debate everyone was cheering how well all the dem candidates were "getting along and supporting each other" and that the party was so happy and care-beary. Not so much now!
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    PJPOWER said:

    I do find it interesting how after the 1st debate everyone was cheering how well all the dem candidates were "getting along and supporting each other" and that the party was so happy and care-beary. Not so much now!

    I personally cringe every time I hear Sanders say he agrees with Secretary Clinton. It's like nails on a chalkboard. Also, she is under investigation by the FBI and that should matter in this campaign. Not in the fall when it is too late and she is the nominee. NOW.
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  • PJPOWER
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    JimmyV said:

    PJPOWER said:

    I do find it interesting how after the 1st debate everyone was cheering how well all the dem candidates were "getting along and supporting each other" and that the party was so happy and care-beary. Not so much now!

    I personally cringe every time I hear Sanders say he agrees with Secretary Clinton. It's like nails on a chalkboard. Also, she is under investigation by the FBI and that should matter in this campaign. Not in the fall when it is too late and she is the nominee. NOW.
    I'll agree with you there. I may not agree with Bernie's ideology, but at least he seems like a man of conviction. Hillary is just another "whatever I gotta say to get into the White House" candidate with no morals or ethics to get in her way.
  • dignin
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptJf3ju3X1g
  • usamamasan1
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    Al Sharpton pandering?
    Wow. How insignificant a person and such disrespect to the black voter...
  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    I heard that Hilary has 392 delegates and Bernie has 42 so there's no way he can win. Is that true?
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    ldent42 said:

    I heard that Hilary has 392 delegates and Bernie has 42 so there's no way he can win. Is that true?

    http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/02/after-sanders-big-win-in-new-hampshire-establishme.html
    Oh no, you might be thinking, look at those delegate totals! He’s getting killed! The New Hampshire primary is meaningless! He didn’t even really win! On the Sanders Reddit page this morning, users were asking whether the whole primary process was a Sisyphean task, and if victory was impossible.


    Make no mistake: That’s the point of this kind of messaging. To discourage, dismay, and dishearten, in the wake of something that should feel really positive for Sanders supporters. Reality check: The system is bigger than you, and you can’t change it, so go home.
    I have no clue if Timothy McBride has any affiliation or even affection for Hillary Clinton, and he was certainly not alone in advancing this talking point. (Update: Surprise, surprise, the two are connected.) What I do know is that he tweeted these statistics out last night and again this morning, and whatever his intentions—and those like him—Clinton herself could not have written a better media script.

    So what’s happening here? Are those delegate counts right?

    Well, no—McBride’s math is wrong, but I’m assuming that wasn’t a malicious mistake. The actual count is 394-42.

    So technically, yes, the count is close to accurate. He’s not overtly lying. But are they illustrative of some critical, insurmountable problem for Sanders? Not at all. Are they even relevant to the primary race? Barely. Certainly not now, and probably not ever. Are these messages deceptive, even subtly? Yes. Absolutely. And they’re propagated by people who are withholding the full story in the hopes that people like you and me are too stupid and complacent to find out on our own.

    McBride’s sneaky tactic is to count “Superdelegates,” which is how he arrives at his imbalanced total. Accept the numbers blindly, and you might feel an impulse toward panic. My message to you: Chill. It’s a clever trick, but a silly one, and it won’t affect anything. To counter this narrative, let’s examine the political reality behind Superdelegates, and explain how they really work, Q&A style.
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