Bernie Sanders for President

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  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,192
    I'm sorry that took this cat seriously.

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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    USA

    woot
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    A Bernie supporter...

    Less than two weeks ago, at the Palace Theater in downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, a 44-year-old Bernie Sanders supporter named Darlene gave me the best explanation I’ve heard yet for the rise of a rare type in American politics: a “democratic socialist,” and a 74-year-old one at that.

    “I have a college degree and the only work I can get is as a waitress at a restaurant downtown,” she told me. “But I’ve still got a lot of college loans, which I can’t afford; I’ve got crappy health care and I’m trying to pay for my son to go to public university and it is $30,000 a year! I really need the kind of help that Bernie is talking about.

    “I don’t want to raise taxes but I want the billionaires to pay their REAL fair share, which is what Bernie says. I need help on my loans and on health care and on my son’s education. I can’t be a single mother and a provider without it. And no other politician has the guts to say what Bernie is saying.”


    Typical sentiment no? It bothers USA Darlene spent money not hers by borrowing to go to college, leverage other people's good faith in lending, is a waitress (and seems bummed on it, shit, I've served, my mom did 30 years) and still spends $30k/year to send her kid to school? Other people's money to solve her choices. That's a huge problem in my Country USA. People shift blame and don't look in mirror. Darlene has made bad choices. I hope she can work her way out of her choices. Not everyone "wins". You have to take calculated risks to succeed and no matter how hard you work, lucky you are, great hair etc you should be smart enough to recognize risk tolerance and consequences. This is a less extreme person as girl who recently started a go fund me campaign after losing all her money on powerball tix. Phony or not, same same.

    This is socialist thought. Robinhood shit

    Go Batman!

    Woot

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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited February 2016
    dear punchy,

    you're a slick politician these days. i just had a bowl of cheerios mixed with strawberry yogurt. i thought barbara bush was running? you know, taking don's advice & all. if don can physically prepare a sub sandwich (to my liking) for me at 4:14am when i come home after a rough night out, he may not be fired





    edit - wrong thread
    thank you
    Post edited by chadwick on
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    A Bernie supporter...

    Less than two weeks ago, at the Palace Theater in downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, a 44-year-old Bernie Sanders supporter named Darlene gave me the best explanation I’ve heard yet for the rise of a rare type in American politics: a “democratic socialist,” and a 74-year-old one at that.

    “I have a college degree and the only work I can get is as a waitress at a restaurant downtown,” she told me. “But I’ve still got a lot of college loans, which I can’t afford; I’ve got crappy health care and I’m trying to pay for my son to go to public university and it is $30,000 a year! I really need the kind of help that Bernie is talking about.

    “I don’t want to raise taxes but I want the billionaires to pay their REAL fair share, which is what Bernie says. I need help on my loans and on health care and on my son’s education. I can’t be a single mother and a provider without it. And no other politician has the guts to say what Bernie is saying.”


    Typical sentiment no? It bothers USA Darlene spent money not hers by borrowing to go to college, leverage other people's good faith in lending, is a waitress (and seems bummed on it, shit, I've served, my mom did 30 years) and still spends $30k/year to send her kid to school? Other people's money to solve her choices. That's a huge problem in my Country USA. People shift blame and don't look in mirror. Darlene has made bad choices. I hope she can work her way out of her choices. Not everyone "wins". You have to take calculated risks to succeed and no matter how hard you work, lucky you are, great hair etc you should be smart enough to recognize risk tolerance and consequences. This is a less extreme person as girl who recently started a go fund me campaign after losing all her money on powerball tix. Phony or not, same same.

    This is socialist thought. Robinhood shit

    Go Batman!

    Woot

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-popularity-reasons_us_56c8d303e4b0ec6725e2dbd1

    Who's money was it that bailed out wall street and the banks? Did the wall streeters and banksters take blame for their choices and look in the mirror or did they blame economic forces and run to the Fed begging for billions? Did mortgage companies take blame for their choices and look in the mirror or did they blame the borrower and run begging the government and state attorney generals?
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
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    I imagine there is a line of closet skelatons waiting to come out of Trumps past.

    Oh just think if the thousands of illegals that built and run his properties. The whole anti Mexican immigrant thing is hilarious.
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  • He'll get my vote in the primary just because I hate Hillary. And I do think that he's the only candidate that really wants the best for America rather than what's best for his donors (or in the case of Trump, what's best for himself). I just don't think many of his proposals are feasible.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    He'll get my vote in the primary just because I hate Hillary. And I do think that he's the only candidate that really wants the best for America rather than what's best for his donors (or in the case of Trump, what's best for himself). I just don't think many of his proposals are feasible.

    Actually Bernie does want what's best for his donors!
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,884
    edited February 2016
    JC29856 said:

    He'll get my vote in the primary just because I hate Hillary. And I do think that he's the only candidate that really wants the best for America rather than what's best for his donors (or in the case of Trump, what's best for himself). I just don't think many of his proposals are feasible.

    Actually Bernie does want what's best for his donors!
    Well that's true. But you know that I'm trying to say; I'd rather him do right by a bunch of 20-30 year olds who are sending him money from their parents bank accounts than Hillary do George Soros' bidding.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    He'll get my vote in the primary just because I hate Hillary. And I do think that he's the only candidate that really wants the best for America rather than what's best for his donors (or in the case of Trump, what's best for himself). I just don't think many of his proposals are feasible.

    Actually Bernie does want what's best for his donors!
    Well that's true. But you know that I'm trying to say; I'd rather him do right by a bunch of 20-30 year olds who are sending him money from their parents bank accounts than Hillary do George Soros' bidding.
    I know...Hillary wall street war hawk. She is the epitome of a Manchurian candidate.
  • Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,352

    Not everyone "wins".

    "winning winning winning and soon the country is going to start winning winning winning"


  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    win more than lose. that's how i roll. also, money is not important, until you run out of it. One more thing, you can always make more.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Bernie Sanders’ net worth is $528,014. Our Bernie Sanders net worth calculations come from analyzing his U.S. Senate financial disclosure forms.

    U.S. Senators aren’t required to disclose their exact net worth. The closest anyone can get to Bernie Sanders’ net worth is to dig through disclosure forms and do the math. Since senators report assets and debts within preset ranges, finding Bernie Sanders’ net worth means averaging reported max and min figures.

    In August of 2015, Bernie Sanders reported net worth assets at a minimum of $187,026 and a max of $759,004. Sanders also owns a condominium in Vermont valued at about $100,000. He has debts of at least $25,002 and as much as $65,000.

    Figuring Sanders’ maximum possible debt and minimum possible assets gives a minimum possible Bernie Sanders net worth of $222,026. Figuring lowest possible debt and highest possible assets gives a net worth a high as $769,002. Combining average assets with average debt gives an average Bernie Sanders net worth of $528,014.

    http://moneynation.com/bernie-sanders-net-worth/

    Not really enough to retire on but I presume he will get a good govt pension, paid for by Capitalists.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Bernie Sanders’ net worth comes almost entirely from his 44 year career in politics.

    Bernie Sanders’ net worth is affected by $25,002 to $65,000 in credit card debt. Sanders lists two Visa Card debts, one from $10,001 to $15,000 and the other from $15,001 to $50,000. Sanders must keep up with his payments, because the interest rate on the first card is only 8.5% and the second is 10.25%


    He clearly is an incompetent investor
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    Bernie Sanders’ net worth is $528,014. Our Bernie Sanders net worth calculations come from analyzing his U.S. Senate financial disclosure forms.

    U.S. Senators aren’t required to disclose their exact net worth. The closest anyone can get to Bernie Sanders’ net worth is to dig through disclosure forms and do the math. Since senators report assets and debts within preset ranges, finding Bernie Sanders’ net worth means averaging reported max and min figures.

    In August of 2015, Bernie Sanders reported net worth assets at a minimum of $187,026 and a max of $759,004. Sanders also owns a condominium in Vermont valued at about $100,000. He has debts of at least $25,002 and as much as $65,000.

    Figuring Sanders’ maximum possible debt and minimum possible assets gives a minimum possible Bernie Sanders net worth of $222,026. Figuring lowest possible debt and highest possible assets gives a net worth a high as $769,002. Combining average assets with average debt gives an average Bernie Sanders net worth of $528,014.

    http://moneynation.com/bernie-sanders-net-worth/

    Not really enough to retire on but I presume he will get a good govt pension, paid for by Capitalists.

    Capitalists = privatize successes and profits socialize mistakes and losses
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    Hillary Clinton's net worth is $31.3 million. Our Hillary Clinton net worth number comes from analyzing her 2015 U.S. Public Financial Disclosure Reports. Bill Clinton has an estimated net worth of $80 million.Dec 1, 2015
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    All from politics
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,960

    What's scary is all the pressure these candidates have on them now that many people have donated money. Bernie is so sweet. I just caught a bit of the s.c. town hall (taping it) and it was the part where he was being asked about what issue he would or would not compromise, even if it meant losing the election. And he basically said none--that he has so many counting on him, he doesn't want to let them down. :) But I feel bad that he puts that much pressure on himself.

    Then they had a commercial for show on CNN coming up sometime with Kevin Spacey narrating called The Race to the White House--about other elections of the past where people involved were killed along the way. In my opinion, our country hasn't changed that much.

    I'm afraid that some of these rich elite are treating this election just like they would a football game they bet on or a horse race, not really caring about who gets hurt in the process. Will it be like Putin and the Winter Olympics' epic fail when the fifth circle wouldn't open at opening ceremonies? He had someone killed because of that you know. Our country is not very far from that way of thinking. When rich people gamble with their money and the outcome isn't right, they can use their power for evil. What do you all think?

    This is the real problem - it all boils down to nobody with power actually caring how people are affected by politicians and what they do. It's like they aren't living on the same plane as us. Like they think they are real and we are all part of some elaborate video game or something. Ultimate consequences for citizens seems to have become almost completely irrelevant for these people, and, as far as I can tell, for a majority of politicians as well.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    Bernie Sanders’ net worth comes almost entirely from his 44 year career in politics.

    Bernie Sanders’ net worth is affected by $25,002 to $65,000 in credit card debt. Sanders lists two Visa Card debts, one from $10,001 to $15,000 and the other from $15,001 to $50,000. Sanders must keep up with his payments, because the interest rate on the first card is only 8.5% and the second is 10.25%


    He clearly is an incompetent investor

    Or maybe he just isn't a greedy bastard lol
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    PJ_Soul said:

    What's scary is all the pressure these candidates have on them now that many people have donated money. Bernie is so sweet. I just caught a bit of the s.c. town hall (taping it) and it was the part where he was being asked about what issue he would or would not compromise, even if it meant losing the election. And he basically said none--that he has so many counting on him, he doesn't want to let them down. :) But I feel bad that he puts that much pressure on himself.

    Then they had a commercial for show on CNN coming up sometime with Kevin Spacey narrating called The Race to the White House--about other elections of the past where people involved were killed along the way. In my opinion, our country hasn't changed that much.

    I'm afraid that some of these rich elite are treating this election just like they would a football game they bet on or a horse race, not really caring about who gets hurt in the process. Will it be like Putin and the Winter Olympics' epic fail when the fifth circle wouldn't open at opening ceremonies? He had someone killed because of that you know. Our country is not very far from that way of thinking. When rich people gamble with their money and the outcome isn't right, they can use their power for evil. What do you all think?

    This is the real problem - it all boils down to nobody with power actually caring how people are affected by politicians and what they do. It's like they aren't living on the same plane as us. Like they think they are real and we are all part of some elaborate video game or something. Ultimate consequences for citizens seems to have become almost completely irrelevant for these people, and, as far as I can tell, for a majority of politicians as well.
    Oh, the power of a capitalistic nation. Of COURSE, politicians do not think of the people, they think about their money! They think about their power! It has nothing to do with the population at all. There's a reason they are all out of touch, it's because they don't know how real people live and they don't give a damn either.
  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,192
    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    What's scary is all the pressure these candidates have on them now that many people have donated money. Bernie is so sweet. I just caught a bit of the s.c. town hall (taping it) and it was the part where he was being asked about what issue he would or would not compromise, even if it meant losing the election. And he basically said none--that he has so many counting on him, he doesn't want to let them down. :) But I feel bad that he puts that much pressure on himself.

    Then they had a commercial for show on CNN coming up sometime with Kevin Spacey narrating called The Race to the White House--about other elections of the past where people involved were killed along the way. In my opinion, our country hasn't changed that much.

    I'm afraid that some of these rich elite are treating this election just like they would a football game they bet on or a horse race, not really caring about who gets hurt in the process. Will it be like Putin and the Winter Olympics' epic fail when the fifth circle wouldn't open at opening ceremonies? He had someone killed because of that you know. Our country is not very far from that way of thinking. When rich people gamble with their money and the outcome isn't right, they can use their power for evil. What do you all think?

    This is the real problem - it all boils down to nobody with power actually caring how people are affected by politicians and what they do. It's like they aren't living on the same plane as us. Like they think they are real and we are all part of some elaborate video game or something. Ultimate consequences for citizens seems to have become almost completely irrelevant for these people, and, as far as I can tell, for a majority of politicians as well.
    Oh, the power of a capitalistic nation. Of COURSE, politicians do not think of the people, they think about their money! They think about their power! It has nothing to do with the population at all. There's a reason they are all out of touch, it's because they don't know how real people live and they don't give a damn either.
    but George Bush, Sr. can tell you the price of bread!!!!

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,960
    rgambs said:

    Bernie Sanders’ net worth comes almost entirely from his 44 year career in politics.

    Bernie Sanders’ net worth is affected by $25,002 to $65,000 in credit card debt. Sanders lists two Visa Card debts, one from $10,001 to $15,000 and the other from $15,001 to $50,000. Sanders must keep up with his payments, because the interest rate on the first card is only 8.5% and the second is 10.25%


    He clearly is an incompetent investor

    Or maybe he just isn't a greedy bastard lol
    Or maybe money isn't his primary concern on a personal level.
    Didn't Trump file for corporate bankruptcy four times?? I am surprised any supporter of Trump would trot out this inconsequential little stat about Bernie's two personal credit cards when Trump's businesses keep on going bankrupt, lol.
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited February 2016
    People believe what they want to believe, facts bedamned!
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    win more than lose. that's business.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,179
    Looking increasingly like Sanders is going to get crushed on Super Tuesday. Vermont, maybe Massachusetts...and that may be it. Recent polling has every other state going to Clinton. Many of them in blowouts.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/march1dem.html
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    This is not news is it?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    You guys really follow polls? Polls are made up and they mean nothing, they really do. It is the manipulation of the media at its finest . Just ignore the news, a lot of bullshit out there. But to mention polls, they are saying that Bernie is ahead of Hillary so what does that say?

    It's all about getting out the vote at this point. Get out and vote in the primaries. That's what makes a difference.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,960
    I very sadly know that Bernie can't win this rigged game. But I completely agree that polls are meaningless. BC experienced just how useless they really are in the last Provincial election. The polls had the NDP leading handily right up until the polls closed. And the Liberals won handily. I will never pay attention to what a poll says again.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Free said:

    You guys really follow polls? Polls are made up and they mean nothing, they really do. It is the manipulation of the media at its finest . Just ignore the news, a lot of bullshit out there. But to mention polls, they are saying that Bernie is ahead of Hillary so what does that say?

    It's all about getting out the vote at this point. Get out and vote in the primaries. That's what makes a difference.

    Can you lay out the math that would give Bernie the nomination? I don't see him winning many more states, and Super Tuesday should eliminate him mathematically. He may stay in to keep pulling Hillary to the left, but I don't see any realistic road map for him at this point. I suppose it could happen, but it seems more fantasy than reality now. He ran a good campaign, had strong populist support, and seems like he genuinely cares, but there's no way he can beat the DNC. Popular vote keeps it interesting, but those super delegates will crush him.
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