Bernie Sanders for President

ldent42

Yea sorry I didn't realize that it was widely reported information and I came here to provide this link http://www.npr.org/2016/02/10/466283748/how-hillary-clinton-is-actually-winning-in-n-h-even-though-she-lost-big?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20160210 where they say that too. I just got the numbers wrong because I'm not really good with numbers or remembering things.

JimmyV

The issue with the Super Delegates to me isn't the count. It's the almost totality of party power brokers lining up with Clinton. It's all side deals and handshakes behind the scenes.

usamamasan1

Al Sharpton
Bernie Sanders

Are you guys not seeing this?
Why in this forum do you not see this?
Vaccuum affirmation...

Feel the Bern

Bids are coming in on black people.

Money is changing hands to the purveyor of black vote.

Fried chicken or Vegan?

brianlux

Things are changing. You can feel it. I'm totally confident this is happening. Sure, there are plenty of people who are afraid to put their feet in the water but those who do know it feels right. You can't stop that. It's happening and it's about time. The energy, passion and curiosity of youth, the wisdom of age, the coming together of all kinds of people. You can't beat that.

rr165892

rgambs said:

rr165892 said:

I'm pulling for your boy here.If he gets the nom,you are paving the way for a huge Win in the general for the right.But I think he gets smoked both out west and in the south.

You think Trump can beat Bernie? Ayatollah Cruz?
You are stuck in the 50s lol

Yes,I think Trump would take him easily.Cruz is a far right pandering obstructionist and a douche,he may have issues with beating who ever is put out front by the lefties.
Gambsy not stuck in the 50s at all.I am A realist.The Sanders dream may sound utopian to many of you but his message will not resonate with more than half the country.Like Cruz being too far right Bernie is way too far left .

rr165892

dignin said:

rr165892 said:

I'm pulling for your boy here.If he gets the nom,you are paving the way for a huge Win in the general for the right.But I think he gets smoked both out west and in the south.

I thought you were an independent?

I very much am Dig.The extreme far right and left don't float my boat.I was always a Jeb guy (He was a very good Gov for my state) out of the current field,but I'm intrigued by Kasichs moderate stance also,and hoping his numbers continue to rise.
Bloombergs possible entering of the race is also something that I'm keeping an eye on.
I don't have a perfect candidate yet.One who is Fiscally to the right and socially liberal on things like Abortion,Gay Marraige,pot, etc while not giving away the farm with wasted entitlements.

callen

rr165892 said:

rgambs said:

rr165892 said:

I'm pulling for your boy here.If he gets the nom,you are paving the way for a huge Win in the general for the right.But I think he gets smoked both out west and in the south.

You think Trump can beat Bernie? Ayatollah Cruz?
You are stuck in the 50s lol

Yes,I think Trump would take him easily.Cruz is a far right pandering obstructionist and a douche,he may have issues with beating who ever is put out front by the lefties.
Gambsy not stuck in the 50s at all.I am A realist.The Sanders dream may sound utopian to many of you but his message will not resonate with more than half the country.Like Cruz being too far right Bernie is way too far left .

And many said this about Obama yet 8 years later gays serve in military. They can marry. We aren't spending a trillion dollars on war. People cN buy affordable healthcare. New supreme court member votes on people's behalf. Unemployment is back. Obama being black yet more intelligent than old godly dumb ass that was in there prior and challenging old white racists perceptions just icing on the cake. Yes I threw that in though didn't fit.

Now agree some of Bernie's proposals are tough to swallow but others are great. Campaign finance being one. So we can dream to have a more progressive society. We are slowly moving that way to the chagrin of many that loved the 50's.

rgambs

usamamasan1 said:

Al Sharpton
Bernie Sanders

Are you guys not seeing this?
Why in this forum do you not see this?
Vaccuum affirmation...

Feel the Bern

Bids are coming in on black people.

Money is changing hands to the purveyor of black vote.

Fried chicken or Vegan?

I really can't tell if this is racist or not...
Perhaps if your posts were intelligible I could decide for myself.

Anyways it speaks volumes toward racism that you are fine with proven anti-semiteTed Nugent's endorsement of Trump but Sharpton get's your panties twisted.

Gern Blansten

If Bernie gets the nod he will win in a landslide. Once he gets the opportunity to get his message out (which is vastly different than what Faux News is saying) people will start to "get it."

Plus...if Bernie is nominated I would bet $1mil that his VP will either be Clinton or Warren. Landslide

polaris_x

I gotta say ... I don't think Sanders has got a hope in hell but have been impressed by his campaign so far ... sadly for him - NH or Vermont is not like the rest of the US and I don't really think the establishment will let him win ...

It is funny to hear people call him extreme left ... hahaha ... just goes to show how far right americans are vs. the rest of the world ...

JimmyV

Gern Blansten said:

If Bernie gets the nod he will win in a landslide. Once he gets the opportunity to get his message out (which is vastly different than what Faux News is saying) people will start to "get it."

Plus...if Bernie is nominated I would bet $1mil that his VP will either be Clinton or Warren. Landslide

I think the best case scenario Bernie supporters should be hoping for is a narrow win. I don't see a landslide putting him in office, particularly at the top of the ticket.

Gern Blansten

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:

If Bernie gets the nod he will win in a landslide. Once he gets the opportunity to get his message out (which is vastly different than what Faux News is saying) people will start to "get it."

Plus...if Bernie is nominated I would bet $1mil that his VP will either be Clinton or Warren. Landslide

I think the best case scenario Bernie supporters should be hoping for is a narrow win. I don't see a landslide putting him in office, particularly at the top of the ticket.

Disagree...the minority and new voter numbers will be huge this year.

Obama was elected twice....very easily the second time.

callen

Gern Blansten said:

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:

If Bernie gets the nod he will win in a landslide. Once he gets the opportunity to get his message out (which is vastly different than what Faux News is saying) people will start to "get it."

Plus...if Bernie is nominated I would bet $1mil that his VP will either be Clinton or Warren. Landslide

I think the best case scenario Bernie supporters should be hoping for is a narrow win. I don't see a landslide putting him in office, particularly at the top of the ticket.

Disagree...the minority and new voter numbers will be huge this year.

Obama was elected twice....very easily the second time.

Just not sure as many will cine out nationally for Bernie. Hope I'm wrong.

JimmyV

Gern Blansten said:

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:

If Bernie gets the nod he will win in a landslide. Once he gets the opportunity to get his message out (which is vastly different than what Faux News is saying) people will start to "get it."

Plus...if Bernie is nominated I would bet $1mil that his VP will either be Clinton or Warren. Landslide

I think the best case scenario Bernie supporters should be hoping for is a narrow win. I don't see a landslide putting him in office, particularly at the top of the ticket.

Disagree...the minority and new voter numbers will be huge this year.

Obama was elected twice....very easily the second time.

Obama had a bigger electoral margin in 2008 than in 2012. Plus...Bernie Sanders the candidate is not Barack Obama the candidate.

You could be right of course. This is one of those things that time will tell. But...I would be SHOCKED if he were elected in a landslide. Shocked.

rr165892

Gern,your optimism about Bernie is both heartwarming and very delusional.But glad you are passionate none the less.You guys need to look outside your bubble.Its not going to happen.

brianlux

The momentum is happening. It's building. And why? Because that's what is great about people when they start to wake up- good things happen. Changes for the better happen. To not see that is ultimate pessimism and we don't need the luxury of pessimism.

Free

rr165892 said:

Gern,your optimism about Bernie is both heartwarming and very delusional.But glad you are passionate none the less.You guys need to look outside your bubble.Its not going to happen.

Some red folks won't be swayed regardless. But the bubble you're talking about is your own.

What people are forgetting is that Obama was "unelectable", "inexperienced", "can't win". How easy and quick we are to dictate the future when, from experience, we know exactly CAN happen.

usamamasan1

rr165892

Free said:

rr165892 said:

Gern,your optimism about Bernie is both heartwarming and very delusional.But glad you are passionate none the less.You guys need to look outside your bubble.Its not going to happen.

Some red folks won't be swayed regardless. But the bubble you're talking about is your own.

Ok,free.When He dosent even get the nomination,I will grab some popcorn,sit back and enjoy reading All the whiney posts from the "how did this happen" Democratic socialist crowd.

PJ_Soul

usamamasan1 said:

How Bernie plans to pay for it all:

https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/