stranger things have happened. obama is experienced. he is still very popular. he said that his political career is not going to be over, and he knows how to make the gop look very, very foolish.
i would say he is qualified for the gig, for sure.
Wow, that's a great thought!
you want an unstoppable ticket, there it is right there.
i still plan to vote for bernie in the primary, but looking at the math he doesn't have it.
Looking at the math 8 years ago, Obama wasn't going to win either.
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
Remember how surprised the Fox News/Karl Rove crew was when the networks called the 2012 election for Obama so early?
That voting group has only gotten stronger. Trump does not stand a chance against Clinton or Sanders.
Maybe. Maybe not. Trump is breaking the mold by bringing in new voters. No one really thought the GOP was capable of doing that heading into this cycle. That combined with traditional Republicans coming out in droves to vote against Hillary Clinton could lead to record turnouts. That wasn't something we saw on the Republican side in 2008 or 2012 and no model predicted it for 2016. This could be a lot closer than many are predicting.
Smart. And nobody likes Hillary and Sanders doesn't have a chance. Shepard fairy isn't making as many posters for Bernie and RHCP can only do so many shows.
It's over
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stranger things have happened. obama is experienced. he is still very popular. he said that his political career is not going to be over, and he knows how to make the gop look very, very foolish.
i would say he is qualified for the gig, for sure.
Wow, that's a great thought!
you want an unstoppable ticket, there it is right there.
i still plan to vote for bernie in the primary, but looking at the math he doesn't have it.
Looking at the math 8 years ago, Obama wasn't going to win either.
Exactly! There are a lot of people working very hard to discourage those of us who support Sanders. They're pulling every dirty trick out of the bag to get us to throw up our hands and quit. That just shows you how afraid they are. It just shows how resistant to change some people are, even when that change is in there own best interest. This is what abused people do. They hide behind what they recognize, what they are used to. But once they cut loose, they realize how much better off they are. This is what's going to happen. The change is coming. Many people will stay stuck on a path that leads to nowhere and they will amuse and distract themselves into thinking everything is OK but of course they know it isn't. Meanwhile, many others will move forward and take a better path. This is what is happening today and will continue to happen.
Stop being afraid people.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
stranger things have happened. obama is experienced. he is still very popular. he said that his political career is not going to be over, and he knows how to make the gop look very, very foolish.
i would say he is qualified for the gig, for sure.
Normal Solomon is awesome. Polls should be banned. DNC and RNC should be disbanded. Gerry mandering should be banned. Ballot access rules should be banned. Debate access rules should be banned. Debates should be moderated by independent voting groups like league of women voters, union leagues etc. Delegates and super delegates should be banned. Electoral college should be banned. Early election results should be banned. Network news calling winner should be banned. Election Day should be a paid holiday off. All those would take control away from the machinations that dictate the democracy.
stranger things have happened. obama is experienced. he is still very popular. he said that his political career is not going to be over, and he knows how to make the gop look very, very foolish.
i would say he is qualified for the gig, for sure.
Wow, that's a great thought!
you want an unstoppable ticket, there it is right there.
i still plan to vote for bernie in the primary, but looking at the math he doesn't have it.
Looking at the math 8 years ago, Obama wasn't going to win either.
Exactly! There are a lot of people working very hard to discourage those of us who support Sanders. They're pulling every dirty trick out of the bag to get us to throw up our hands and quit. That just shows you how afraid they are. It just shows how resistant to change some people are, even when that change is in there own best interest. This is what abused people do. They hide behind what they recognize, what they are used to. But once they cut loose, they realize how much better off they are. This is what's going to happen. The change is coming. Many people will stay stuck on a path that leads to nowhere and they will amuse and distract themselves into thinking everything is OK but of course they know it isn't. Meanwhile, many others will move forward and take a better path. This is what is happening today and will continue to happen.
stranger things have happened. obama is experienced. he is still very popular. he said that his political career is not going to be over, and he knows how to make the gop look very, very foolish.
i would say he is qualified for the gig, for sure.
Normal Solomon is awesome. Polls should be banned. DNC and RNC should be disbanded. Gerry mandering should be banned. Ballot access rules should be banned. Debate access rules should be banned. Debates should be moderated by independent voting groups like league of women voters, union leagues etc. Delegates and super delegates should be banned. Electoral college should be banned. Early election results should be banned. Network news calling winner should be banned. Election Day should be a paid holiday off. All those would take control away from the machinations that dictate the democracy.
stranger things have happened. obama is experienced. he is still very popular. he said that his political career is not going to be over, and he knows how to make the gop look very, very foolish.
i would say he is qualified for the gig, for sure.
Wow, that's a great thought!
you want an unstoppable ticket, there it is right there.
i still plan to vote for bernie in the primary, but looking at the math he doesn't have it.
Looking at the math 8 years ago, Obama wasn't going to win either.
Exactly! There are a lot of people working very hard to discourage those of us who support Sanders. They're pulling every dirty trick out of the bag to get us to throw up our hands and quit. That just shows you how afraid they are. It just shows how resistant to change some people are, even when that change is in there own best interest. This is what abused people do. They hide behind what they recognize, what they are used to. But once they cut loose, they realize how much better off they are. This is what's going to happen. The change is coming. Many people will stay stuck on a path that leads to nowhere and they will amuse and distract themselves into thinking everything is OK but of course they know it isn't. Meanwhile, many others will move forward and take a better path. This is what is happening today and will continue to happen.
Stop being afraid people.
i am not being afraid.
all i am saying is that if we can't get sanders elected, a clinton presidency is not the worst thing that could happen.
if hillary gets the nomination and the democrats don't show up at the polls to support her, it is those no shows that are handing the keys to the white house and handing the supreme court to president trump. and that is not going to be good for anybody.
think about that before you people decide to stay home on election day.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
stranger things have happened. obama is experienced. he is still very popular. he said that his political career is not going to be over, and he knows how to make the gop look very, very foolish.
i would say he is qualified for the gig, for sure.
Wow, that's a great thought!
you want an unstoppable ticket, there it is right there.
i still plan to vote for bernie in the primary, but looking at the math he doesn't have it.
Looking at the math 8 years ago, Obama wasn't going to win either.
Exactly! There are a lot of people working very hard to discourage those of us who support Sanders. They're pulling every dirty trick out of the bag to get us to throw up our hands and quit. That just shows you how afraid they are. It just shows how resistant to change some people are, even when that change is in there own best interest. This is what abused people do. They hide behind what they recognize, what they are used to. But once they cut loose, they realize how much better off they are. This is what's going to happen. The change is coming. Many people will stay stuck on a path that leads to nowhere and they will amuse and distract themselves into thinking everything is OK but of course they know it isn't. Meanwhile, many others will move forward and take a better path. This is what is happening today and will continue to happen.
Stop being afraid people.
i am not being afraid.
all i am saying is that if we can't get sanders elected, a clinton presidency is not the worst thing that could happen.
if hillary gets the nomination and the democrats don't show up at the polls to support her, it is those no shows that are handing the keys to the white house and handing the supreme court to president trump. and that is not going to be good for anybody.
think about that before you people decide to stay home on election day.
Absolutely, the adult equivalent of taking your ball and pouting your way home. Voting for Jill Stein (bless her awesomeness) is the same thing, it is giving in to the forces which want to see apathy. Hillary sucks, but let's not forget what's at stake.
The point is that you guys are giving up on Bernie way before you should. You're listening to the media who are saying that he is losing and that's not simply true. If Hillary wins well then she better come clean on those transcripts before hand.
The point is that you guys are giving up on Bernie way before you should. You're listening to the media who are saying that he is losing and that's not simply true. If Hillary wins well then she better come clean on those transcripts before hand.
Nobody is giving up, we are all going to go to the ballot and vote for Bernie.
The point is that you guys are giving up on Bernie way before you should. You're listening to the media who are saying that he is losing and that's not simply true. If Hillary wins well then she better come clean on those transcripts before hand.
Nobody is giving up, we are all going to go to the ballot and vote for Bernie.
The point is that you guys are giving up on Bernie way before you should. You're listening to the media who are saying that he is losing and that's not simply true. If Hillary wins well then she better come clean on those transcripts before hand.
i am not giving up on him. i have given him money a few times this campaign.
i am just saying i am not going to be one of these people who are going to be all butthurt and stay home if he doesn't get the nomination. and if you are someone who cares about the future of this country, you will do the same. we can't afford to give the presidency and the supreme court to the republicans because a couple million people are butthurt. that attitude is playing right into the hands of the republicans. they want to split the dems, and they are wringing their hands at the prospect of bernie supporters staying home. they have been attacking hillary for 20 years. she can handle it. they don't want to face her. but if you stay at home you make it easier for the republicans to take the whole thing.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Stop being afraid" and "You are listening to the media" aren't the most compelling messages Bernie Sanders supporters could be putting forth. I respect the passion but lashing out at others who are looking at the situation objectively is counterproductive.
It has been asked several times in the Sanders threads. Has anyone taken the time to map out exactly what Bernie's path to the nomination is? What States does he win? Where does he finish close?
We'll see what happens tomorrow and Tuesday but going in with my eyes open is not giving up or being afraid. It is understanding the likely outcome.
stranger things have happened. obama is experienced. he is still very popular. he said that his political career is not going to be over, and he knows how to make the gop look very, very foolish.
i would say he is qualified for the gig, for sure.
Stranger things than what you are suggesting have certainly not happened.
stranger things have happened. obama is experienced. he is still very popular. he said that his political career is not going to be over, and he knows how to make the gop look very, very foolish.
i would say he is qualified for the gig, for sure.
Stranger things than what you are suggesting have certainly not happened.
sure stranger things have happened.
johnny football got drafted in the first round. that is stranger than obama being picked to stay in the executive branch.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
a cautionary word to those bernie supporters threatening to stay home and not vote for clinton, remember, a democrat staying home on election day is a vote for the gop.
And potentially have ayatollah Cruz making two Supreme Court nominations!!
a cautionary word to those bernie supporters threatening to stay home and not vote for clinton, remember, a democrat staying home on election day is a vote for the gop.
And potentially have ayatollah Cruz making two Supreme Court nominations!!
I think this becomes a potential problem only if Hillary Clinton through her conduct gives Democrats a reason to stay home. If the transcripts are shockingly bad, if the FBI finds something, if her next scandal breaks early, etc. Otherwise I think most Democrats will buy in.
Independents are the problem. If both choices are inspiring, voters who have no allegiance to either party have the potential to just stay home.
"Stop being afraid" and "You are listening to the media" aren't the most compelling messages Bernie Sanders supporters could be putting forth. I respect the passion but lashing out at others who are looking at the situation objectively is counterproductive.
It has been asked several times in the Sanders threads. Has anyone taken the time to map out exactly what Bernie's path to the nomination is? What States does he win? Where does he finish close?
We'll see what happens tomorrow and Tuesday but going in with my eyes open is not giving up or being afraid. It is understanding the likely outcome.
This response is exactly what's wrong with the MSM and the voters. Ignore the issues and only report on the horse race. The MSM and voters family friends neighbors co workers need to talk more about the issues and less about the race.
"Stop being afraid" and "You are listening to the media" aren't the most compelling messages Bernie Sanders supporters could be putting forth. I respect the passion but lashing out at others who are looking at the situation objectively is counterproductive.
It has been asked several times in the Sanders threads. Has anyone taken the time to map out exactly what Bernie's path to the nomination is? What States does he win? Where does he finish close?
We'll see what happens tomorrow and Tuesday but going in with my eyes open is not giving up or being afraid. It is understanding the likely outcome.
This response is exactly what's wrong with the MSM and the voters. Ignore the issues and only report on the horse race. The MSM and voters family friends neighbors co workers need to talk more about the issues and less about the race.
And the continued dodge on answering the question regarding Bernie's path to victory, instead pivoting and attacking anyone who asks it, is exactly what is wrong with some Bernie supporters on this board right now.
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,072
stranger things have happened. obama is experienced. he is still very popular. he said that his political career is not going to be over, and he knows how to make the gop look very, very foolish.
i would say he is qualified for the gig, for sure.
Wow, that's a great thought!
you want an unstoppable ticket, there it is right there.
i still plan to vote for bernie in the primary, but looking at the math he doesn't have it.
Looking at the math 8 years ago, Obama wasn't going to win either.
Exactly! There are a lot of people working very hard to discourage those of us who support Sanders. They're pulling every dirty trick out of the bag to get us to throw up our hands and quit. That just shows you how afraid they are. It just shows how resistant to change some people are, even when that change is in there own best interest. This is what abused people do. They hide behind what they recognize, what they are used to. But once they cut loose, they realize how much better off they are. This is what's going to happen. The change is coming. Many people will stay stuck on a path that leads to nowhere and they will amuse and distract themselves into thinking everything is OK but of course they know it isn't. Meanwhile, many others will move forward and take a better path. This is what is happening today and will continue to happen.
Stop being afraid people.
i am not being afraid.
all i am saying is that if we can't get sanders elected, a clinton presidency is not the worst thing that could happen.
if hillary gets the nomination and the democrats don't show up at the polls to support her, it is those no shows that are handing the keys to the white house and handing the supreme court to president trump. and that is not going to be good for anybody.
think about that before you people decide to stay home on election day.
You are a brave soul- I know that gimme!
I will continue to support Bernie all the way to the convention but yes, if Hillary wins the Dem nod, then she gets my vote- but with much reservation. Yes, we all would do well to get out and vote. Any of the Republican nominees would be a much worse choice, especially Trump, but I do not relish the idea of a Clinton presidency.
But enough about Hillary for now. This is the "Bernie Sanders for President" thread. While we still have a shot at it, lets keep the focus on Bernie and those of us who share his vision, let's keep focused on that!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
stranger things have happened. obama is experienced. he is still very popular. he said that his political career is not going to be over, and he knows how to make the gop look very, very foolish.
i would say he is qualified for the gig, for sure.
Wow, that's a great thought!
you want an unstoppable ticket, there it is right there.
i still plan to vote for bernie in the primary, but looking at the math he doesn't have it.
Looking at the math 8 years ago, Obama wasn't going to win either.
Exactly! There are a lot of people working very hard to discourage those of us who support Sanders. They're pulling every dirty trick out of the bag to get us to throw up our hands and quit. That just shows you how afraid they are. It just shows how resistant to change some people are, even when that change is in there own best interest. This is what abused people do. They hide behind what they recognize, what they are used to. But once they cut loose, they realize how much better off they are. This is what's going to happen. The change is coming. Many people will stay stuck on a path that leads to nowhere and they will amuse and distract themselves into thinking everything is OK but of course they know it isn't. Meanwhile, many others will move forward and take a better path. This is what is happening today and will continue to happen.
Stop being afraid people.
i am not being afraid.
all i am saying is that if we can't get sanders elected, a clinton presidency is not the worst thing that could happen.
if hillary gets the nomination and the democrats don't show up at the polls to support her, it is those no shows that are handing the keys to the white house and handing the supreme court to president trump. and that is not going to be good for anybody.
think about that before you people decide to stay home on election day.
You are a brave soul- I know that gimme!
I will continue to support Bernie all the way to the convention but yes, if Hillary wins the Dem nod, then she gets my vote- but with much reservation. Yes, we all would do well to get out and vote. Any of the Republican nominees would be a much worse choice, especially Trump, but I do not relish the idea of a Clinton presidency.
But enough about Hillary for now. This is the "Bernie Sanders for President" thread. While we still have a shot at it, lets keep the focus on Bernie and those of us who share his vision, let's keep focused on that!
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
"Stop being afraid" and "You are listening to the media" aren't the most compelling messages Bernie Sanders supporters could be putting forth. I respect the passion but lashing out at others who are looking at the situation objectively is counterproductive.
It has been asked several times in the Sanders threads. Has anyone taken the time to map out exactly what Bernie's path to the nomination is? What States does he win? Where does he finish close?
We'll see what happens tomorrow and Tuesday but going in with my eyes open is not giving up or being afraid. It is understanding the likely outcome.
This response is exactly what's wrong with the MSM and the voters. Ignore the issues and only report on the horse race. The MSM and voters family friends neighbors co workers need to talk more about the issues and less about the race.
And the continued dodge on answering the question regarding Bernie's path to victory, instead pivoting and attacking anyone who asks it, is exactly what is wrong with some Bernie supporters on this board right now.
Bernie lost me long ago when he too finally became a bitch boy whore for Israel.
The path to victory is not the issue the issues are the issue.
"Stop being afraid" and "You are listening to the media" aren't the most compelling messages Bernie Sanders supporters could be putting forth. I respect the passion but lashing out at others who are looking at the situation objectively is counterproductive.
It has been asked several times in the Sanders threads. Has anyone taken the time to map out exactly what Bernie's path to the nomination is? What States does he win? Where does he finish close?
We'll see what happens tomorrow and Tuesday but going in with my eyes open is not giving up or being afraid. It is understanding the likely outcome.
This response is exactly what's wrong with the MSM and the voters. Ignore the issues and only report on the horse race. The MSM and voters family friends neighbors co workers need to talk more about the issues and less about the race.
And the continued dodge on answering the question regarding Bernie's path to victory, instead pivoting and attacking anyone who asks it, is exactly what is wrong with some Bernie supporters on this board right now.
Bernie lost me long ago when he too finally became a bitch boy whore for Israel.
The path to victory is not the issue the issues are the issue.
Classy.
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Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,072
"Stop being afraid" and "You are listening to the media" aren't the most compelling messages Bernie Sanders supporters could be putting forth. I respect the passion but lashing out at others who are looking at the situation objectively is counterproductive.
It has been asked several times in the Sanders threads. Has anyone taken the time to map out exactly what Bernie's path to the nomination is? What States does he win? Where does he finish close?
We'll see what happens tomorrow and Tuesday but going in with my eyes open is not giving up or being afraid. It is understanding the likely outcome.
This response is exactly what's wrong with the MSM and the voters. Ignore the issues and only report on the horse race. The MSM and voters family friends neighbors co workers need to talk more about the issues and less about the race.
And the continued dodge on answering the question regarding Bernie's path to victory, instead pivoting and attacking anyone who asks it, is exactly what is wrong with some Bernie supporters on this board right now.
Bernie lost me long ago when he too finally became a bitch boy whore for Israel.
The path to victory is not the issue the issues are the issue.
"bitch boy whore" haha. That about as funny as Dan's "the old bag" and "the old goat".
Trouncing by intimidation is no win.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Bernie Sanders has described the entrenched conflict between Israel and the Palestinians as both depressing and difficult, and considers the conflict one of the most important issues in the Middle East. He acknowledges that there is no magic solution to the problem, but Bernie believes in a two-state solution, where “Israel has a right to exist in security, and at the same time the Palestinians have a state of their own.” Finally, Bernie sees many other conflicts in the Middle East as exacerbating the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Jewish Heritage: Bernie is Jewish, but he does not favor Israel over the Palestinians, nor does he otherwise let his religion influence his positions regarding the conflict.
Two-State Solution: Bernie believes that Israel and the Palestinians can, and should, peacefully co-exist, and that Palestinians should have a country of their own.
On Netanyahu & Iran: Bernie is not a big supporter of Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and believes that diplomacy, not military action or economic sanctions, can keep Israel safe from Iran."
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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you should listen, you might learn something.
livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
Stop being afraid people.
Polls should be banned.
DNC and RNC should be disbanded.
Gerry mandering should be banned.
Ballot access rules should be banned.
Debate access rules should be banned.
Debates should be moderated by independent voting groups like league of women voters, union leagues etc.
Delegates and super delegates should be banned.
Electoral college should be banned.
Early election results should be banned.
Network news calling winner should be banned.
Election Day should be a paid holiday off.
All those would take control away from the machinations that dictate the democracy.
all i am saying is that if we can't get sanders elected, a clinton presidency is not the worst thing that could happen.
if hillary gets the nomination and the democrats don't show up at the polls to support her, it is those no shows that are handing the keys to the white house and handing the supreme court to president trump. and that is not going to be good for anybody.
think about that before you people decide to stay home on election day.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Voting for Jill Stein (bless her awesomeness) is the same thing, it is giving in to the forces which want to see apathy. Hillary sucks, but let's not forget what's at stake.
i am just saying i am not going to be one of these people who are going to be all butthurt and stay home if he doesn't get the nomination. and if you are someone who cares about the future of this country, you will do the same. we can't afford to give the presidency and the supreme court to the republicans because a couple million people are butthurt. that attitude is playing right into the hands of the republicans. they want to split the dems, and they are wringing their hands at the prospect of bernie supporters staying home. they have been attacking hillary for 20 years. she can handle it. they don't want to face her. but if you stay at home you make it easier for the republicans to take the whole thing.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
It has been asked several times in the Sanders threads. Has anyone taken the time to map out exactly what Bernie's path to the nomination is? What States does he win? Where does he finish close?
We'll see what happens tomorrow and Tuesday but going in with my eyes open is not giving up or being afraid. It is understanding the likely outcome.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
johnny football got drafted in the first round. that is stranger than obama being picked to stay in the executive branch.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Independents are the problem. If both choices are inspiring, voters who have no allegiance to either party have the potential to just stay home.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I will continue to support Bernie all the way to the convention but yes, if Hillary wins the Dem nod, then she gets my vote- but with much reservation. Yes, we all would do well to get out and vote. Any of the Republican nominees would be a much worse choice, especially Trump, but I do not relish the idea of a Clinton presidency.
But enough about Hillary for now. This is the "Bernie Sanders for President" thread. While we still have a shot at it, lets keep the focus on Bernie and those of us who share his vision, let's keep focused on that!
livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
The path to victory is not the issue the issues are the issue.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Trouncing by intimidation is no win.
I'm not singling him out, 99% of all senators and congress persons are Israel whores, the other 1% get voted out.
"Bernie Sanders on Israel and the Palestinians
Bernie Sanders has described the entrenched conflict between Israel and the Palestinians as both depressing and difficult, and considers the conflict one of the most important issues in the Middle East. He acknowledges that there is no magic solution to the problem, but Bernie believes in a two-state solution, where “Israel has a right to exist in security, and at the same time the Palestinians have a state of their own.” Finally, Bernie sees many other conflicts in the Middle East as exacerbating the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Jewish Heritage: Bernie is Jewish, but he does not favor Israel over the Palestinians, nor does he otherwise let his religion influence his positions regarding the conflict.
Two-State Solution: Bernie believes that Israel and the Palestinians can, and should, peacefully co-exist, and that Palestinians should have a country of their own.
On Netanyahu & Iran: Bernie is not a big supporter of Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and believes that diplomacy, not military action or economic sanctions, can keep Israel safe from Iran."