Avacado is my favourite PJ album of the 21st century (ie Post Yield era). I was quite stoked when it came out and I think it still rocks today. Great album front to back (except for maybe Big Wave).
GREAT- Severed Hand, Come Back, Inside Job, Wasted Reprise/Life Wasted GOOD- WWS, Comatose, Marker In The Sand, Parachutes, Unemployable, Army Reserve POOR- Big Wave, Gone
Interesting.
GREAT- Severed Hand, Wasted Reprise/Life Wasted, Comatose, Marker In The Sand GOOD- WWS, Parachutes, Unemployable, Army Reserve POOR- Big Wave, Gone, Inside Job, Come Back,
GREAT- Severed Hand, Life Wasted, Marker In The Sand, WWS, Come back GOOD- Big Wave, Army Reserve, Wasted Reprise, Comatose POOR- Gone, Inside Job, Terrible: Parachutes, Unemployable
I think Marker is a great lyric, I think one of their more underrated tunes. I honestly could never get into Inside Job, just think it sounds cheesy, too prog. rocky which I don't think the band ever did very well. However, it's one of my favorite albums.
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GREAT- Severed Hand, Life Wasted, Marker In The Sand, WWS, Come back, Comatose, Gone, Inside Job GOOD- Unemployable, Army Reserve "MEH"- Big Wave, Wasted Reprise (does this count?), Parachutes POOR- None Terrible: None
Severed Hand- Decent music, but some of the lyrics make me cringe: "Tried to walk found a severed hand/ recognized it from the wedding band." TF???
For about 7 years I've been intent on writing an exposition about the parallels (intentional or not) between Self-Titled and George Orwell's 1984. There are a TON of lyrical references throughout the songs (excepting Big Wave, which is a large part of the reason why it doesn't seem to fit in to me) that are so closely connected to Orwell's novel that I am convinced there's something deeper under the surface of the album that just hasn't been dug out yet.
Anyway, your comment about Severed Hand reminded me to look back at the part of the novel where Winston is musing about how he and most others in his society have become dehumanized by the government and themselves, at which point he recalls walking down the street and coming across a severed hand:
The proles had stayed human. They had not become hardened inside. They had held on to the primitive emotions which he himself had to re-learn by conscious effort. And in thinking this he remembered, without apparent relevance, how a few weeks ago he had seen a severed hand lying on the pavement and had kicked it into the gutter as though it had been a cabbage-stalk. 'The proles are human beings,' he said aloud. 'We are not human.'
When I have enough time I'll get to writing something more about the song as a whole, and the other songs, and how they relate to the novel, in my opinion. I might be way off-base, but I've thought about this a lot and really do think there's something potentially there.
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Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
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The Juggler
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Good album that was very much needed after the two previous flops. I wish they d play marker more live; on the flip side inside job might be one of their most boring songs live after what seems like a two hour intro. The 06 tour was great imo, I wish I could have caught more shows that year.
I really dislike Inside Job. Lyrics reminds me of a Celine Dion song.
Good album that was very much needed after the two previous flops. I wish they d play marker more live; on the flip side inside job might be one of their most boring songs live after what seems like a two hour intro. The 06 tour was great imo, I wish I could have caught more shows that year.
I really dislike Inside Job. Lyrics reminds me of a Celine Dion song.
I feel like with the groove, the opening solo (Page style) and the title, this could have been a political song about how most military actions today are inside jobs, driven by the military industrial complex. Alas, the opportunity was missed.
Severed Hand- Decent music, but some of the lyrics make me cringe: "Tried to walk found a severed hand/ recognized it from the wedding band." TF???
For about 7 years I've been intent on writing an exposition about the parallels (intentional or not) between Self-Titled and George Orwell's 1984. There are a TON of lyrical references throughout the songs (excepting Big Wave, which is a large part of the reason why it doesn't seem to fit in to me) that are so closely connected to Orwell's novel that I am convinced there's something deeper under the surface of the album that just hasn't been dug out yet.
Anyway, your comment about Severed Hand reminded me to look back at the part of the novel where Winston is musing about how he and most others in his society have become dehumanized by the government and themselves, at which point he recalls walking down the street and coming across a severed hand:
The proles had stayed human. They had not become hardened inside. They had held on to the primitive emotions which he himself had to re-learn by conscious effort. And in thinking this he remembered, without apparent relevance, how a few weeks ago he had seen a severed hand lying on the pavement and had kicked it into the gutter as though it had been a cabbage-stalk. 'The proles are human beings,' he said aloud. 'We are not human.'
When I have enough time I'll get to writing something more about the song as a whole, and the other songs, and how they relate to the novel, in my opinion. I might be way off-base, but I've thought about this a lot and really do think there's something potentially there.
And yes to whoever said that the end of marker in the sand is some of the finest pearl jam ever. The whole song really.
Came here to add that MITS is definitely one of the most underrated PJ songs. So good. So very good.
"Sometimes you find yourself having to put all your faith in no faith."
~not a dude~
2010: MSGx2
2012: Made In America
2013: Pittsburgh, Brooklynx2, Hartford, Baltimore
2014: Leeds, Milton Keynes, Detroit
2015: Global Citizen Festival
2016: Phillyx2, MSGx2, Fenwayx2 2018: Barcelona, Wrigleyx2
Good album that was very much needed after the two previous flops. I wish they d play marker more live; on the flip side inside job might be one of their most boring songs live after what seems like a two hour intro. The 06 tour was great imo, I wish I could have caught more shows that year.
I really dislike Inside Job. Lyrics reminds me of a Celine Dion song.
I feel like with the groove, the opening solo (Page style) and the title, this could have been a political song about how most military actions today are inside jobs, driven by the military industrial complex. Alas, the opportunity was missed.
Hey look at me! I'm running in the rain to be a human light again!!!
Good album that was very much needed after the two previous flops. I wish they d play marker more live; on the flip side inside job might be one of their most boring songs live after what seems like a two hour intro. The 06 tour was great imo, I wish I could have caught more shows that year.
I really dislike Inside Job. Lyrics reminds me of a Celine Dion song.
I feel like with the groove, the opening solo (Page style) and the title, this could have been a political song about how most military actions today are inside jobs, driven by the military industrial complex. Alas, the opportunity was missed.
Hey look at me! I'm running in the rain to be a human light again!!!
Cheese.
Nailed it with your lyrics in all ways! 100% or is it
Let me run into the rain To be a human light again
Good album that was very much needed after the two previous flops. I wish they d play marker more live; on the flip side inside job might be one of their most boring songs live after what seems like a two hour intro. The 06 tour was great imo, I wish I could have caught more shows that year.
I really dislike Inside Job. Lyrics reminds me of a Celine Dion song.
I feel like with the groove, the opening solo (Page style) and the title, this could have been a political song about how most military actions today are inside jobs, driven by the military industrial complex. Alas, the opportunity was missed.
Hey look at me! I'm running in the rain to be a human light again!!!
Cheese.
Nailed it with your lyrics in all ways! 100% or is it
Let me run into the rain To be a human light again
not familiar with paraphrasing, eh?
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Looking through this thread it's great to see a big wave (chuckle) of opposing thoughts. I stand by my earlier comment of Parachutes being one of the worst songs the band has ever done, and to add to that, Inside Job is one of the best (top 5 for me).
Manchester 04.06.00, Leeds 25.08.06, Wembley 18.06.07, Dusseldorf 21.06.07, Shepherds Bush 11.08.09, Manchester 17.08.09, Adelaide 17.11.09, Melbourne 20.11.09, Sydney 22.11.09, Brisbane 25.11.09, MSG1 20.05.10, MSG2 21.05.10, Dublin 22.06.10, Belfast 23.06.10, London 25.06.10, Long Beach 06.07.11 (EV), Los Angeles 08.07.11 (EV), Toronto 11.09.11, Toronto 12.09.11, Ottawa 14.09.11, Hamilton 14.09.11, Manchester 20.06.12, Manchester 21.06.12, Amsterdam 26.06.2012, Amsterdam 27.06.2012, Berlin 04.07.12, Berlin 05.07.12, Stockholm 07.07.12, Oslo 09.07.12, Copenhagen 10.07.12, Manchester 28.07.12 (EV), Brooklyn 18.10.13, Brooklyn 19.10.13, Philly 21.10.13, Philly 22.10.13, San Diego 21.11.13, LA 23.11.13, LA 24.11.13, Oakland 26.11.13, Portland 29.11.13, Spokane 30.11.13, Calgary 02.12.13, Vancouver 04.12.13, Seattle 06.12.13, Trieste 22.06.14, Vienna 25.06.14, Berlin 26.06.14, Stockholm 28.06.14, Leeds 08.07.14, Philly 28.04.16, Philly 28.04.16, MSG1 01.05.16, MSG2 02.05.16
Not a huge fan of this album although I gave it a good try in 2006. I can listen to the tunes in mall doses when they're interspersed with all their other classics on all the bootlegs.
Overall, not an album that I listed to a lot, but it does have its moments.
My breakdown: GREAT: Life Wasted, Marker, Parachutes, Come Back GOOD: Army Reserve, Comatose, Severed Hand, Inside Job SKIPPABLE: Wasted Repise, WWS, Gone, Big Wave, Unemployable
1996: Toronto
1998: Barrie
2000: Saratoga Springs
2003: Buffalo, Toronto
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto x2, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Gorge #1
2007: London, Dusseldorf, Vic, Lolla
2008: WPB, Tampa, DC, MSG x2, Hartford, Boston x2, Beacon
2009: Toronto, Chicago x2, Seattle x2, LA #3&4, San Diego, Philly x4
2010: Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford
2011: Montreal, Toronto x2, Hamilton
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Wrigley, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Hartford, Dallas, OKC
Avocado is one of my favorites! Front to back I love it. I tend to skip Gone a bit, but nothing for me is better than closers Come Back and Inside Job. First six tracks are just amazing as well.
Looking through this thread it's great to see a big wave (chuckle) of opposing thoughts. I stand by my earlier comment of Parachutes being one of the worst songs the band has ever done, and to add to that, Inside Job is one of the best (top 5 for me).
I too like seeing everyone's different opinions on each song. Such a great demonstration of how it's almost impossible to objectively state what is "good" vs "bad" when talking about art. We always have to know that it's what we like vs what we don't like, for whatever subjective reasons...
Re: Inside Job, the first time I really heard the lyrics I was blown away and so grateful to Mike for writing that song. As someone 12+ years in recovery, the lyrics are incredibly meaningful to me and I imagine to anyone else who knows, from deep in their heart and soul, exactly what he is talking about. Some of the lyrics can be taken literally, other phrases are more metaphorical, but altogether I think the song is a beautiful testament to faith and hope and redemption.
Looking through this thread it's great to see a big wave (chuckle) of opposing thoughts. I stand by my earlier comment of Parachutes being one of the worst songs the band has ever done, and to add to that, Inside Job is one of the best (top 5 for me).
I too like seeing everyone's different opinions on each song. Such a great demonstration of how it's almost impossible to objectively state what is "good" vs "bad" when talking about art. We always have to know that it's what we like vs what we don't like, for whatever subjective reasons...
Re: Inside Job, the first time I really heard the lyrics I was blown away and so grateful to Mike for writing that song. As someone 12+ years in recovery, the lyrics are incredibly meaningful to me and I imagine to anyone else who knows, from deep in their heart and soul, exactly what he is talking about. Some of the lyrics can be taken literally, other phrases are more metaphorical, but altogether I think the song is a beautiful testament to faith and hope and redemption.
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MITS- 11
Parachutes- 9
Big Wave- 8
Gone- 9 (not played 2010-2013)
Army Reserve- 7
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
And to be my usual complete-opposite-of-the-masses self, Marker is the one song I skip. And I love Parachutes, Gone, & Big Wave.
GREAT- Severed Hand, Wasted Reprise/Life Wasted, Comatose, Marker In The Sand
GOOD- WWS, Parachutes, Unemployable, Army Reserve
POOR- Big Wave, Gone, Inside Job, Come Back,
GOOD- Big Wave, Army Reserve, Wasted Reprise, Comatose
POOR- Gone, Inside Job,
Terrible: Parachutes, Unemployable
Just happy to see Severed Hand in the great lists!
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
MSG 2016 1&2
Wrigley 2016 1&2
Eddie Vedder Obama Farewell Address 2017
Eddie Vedder Louisville, KY 2017
London 2018 1
Wrigley 2018 1&2
St. Louis 2020
GOOD- Unemployable, Army Reserve
"MEH"- Big Wave, Wasted Reprise (does this count?), Parachutes
POOR- None
Terrible: None
Anyway, your comment about Severed Hand reminded me to look back at the part of the novel where Winston is musing about how he and most others in his society have become dehumanized by the government and themselves, at which point he recalls walking down the street and coming across a severed hand: When I have enough time I'll get to writing something more about the song as a whole, and the other songs, and how they relate to the novel, in my opinion. I might be way off-base, but I've thought about this a lot and really do think there's something potentially there.
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
Whoa cool stuff- I'd love to read.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
~not a dude~
2010: MSGx2
2012: Made In America
2013: Pittsburgh, Brooklynx2, Hartford, Baltimore
2014: Leeds, Milton Keynes, Detroit
2015: Global Citizen Festival
2016: Phillyx2, MSGx2, Fenwayx2
2018: Barcelona, Wrigleyx2
The touring year of this album was amazing.
MITS is simply fantastic.
Cheese.
100%
or is it
Let me run into the rain
To be a human light again
Marker in the Sand, Come Back
Good:
Life Wasted, Severed Hand
Skippable:
Big Wave, Gone (one of my least favorite songs in catalogue), Army Reserve
and I've grown to like gone over the years. wasn't a favorite at first.
Brooklyn, 18th October 2013
Memphis, 14th October 2014
Krakow, 3rd July 2018
London, 8th July 2022
My breakdown:
GREAT: Life Wasted, Marker, Parachutes, Come Back
GOOD: Army Reserve, Comatose, Severed Hand, Inside Job
SKIPPABLE: Wasted Repise, WWS, Gone, Big Wave, Unemployable
Re: Inside Job, the first time I really heard the lyrics I was blown away and so grateful to Mike for writing that song. As someone 12+ years in recovery, the lyrics are incredibly meaningful to me and I imagine to anyone else who knows, from deep in their heart and soul, exactly what he is talking about. Some of the lyrics can be taken literally, other phrases are more metaphorical, but altogether I think the song is a beautiful testament to faith and hope and redemption.