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  • foodboy
    foodboy Posts: 988
    one word.....masterpiece.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    Avacado is my favourite PJ album of the 21st century (ie Post Yield era). I was quite stoked when it came out and I think it still rocks today. Great album front to back (except for maybe Big Wave).
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,997
    Amount of times played since the 2006 self titled tour:

    MITS- 11
    Parachutes- 9
    Big Wave- 8
    Gone- 9 (not played 2010-2013)
    Army Reserve- 7
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    My top 5 on the album, no particular order: Unemployable, Inside Job, Severed Hand, Army Reserve, WWS

    And to be my usual complete-opposite-of-the-masses self, Marker is the one song I skip. And I love Parachutes, Gone, & Big Wave.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,254

    GREAT- Severed Hand, Come Back, Inside Job, Wasted Reprise/Life Wasted
    GOOD- WWS, Comatose, Marker In The Sand, Parachutes, Unemployable, Army Reserve
    POOR- Big Wave, Gone

    Interesting.

    GREAT- Severed Hand, Wasted Reprise/Life Wasted, Comatose, Marker In The Sand
    GOOD- WWS, Parachutes, Unemployable, Army Reserve
    POOR- Big Wave, Gone, Inside Job, Come Back,
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    GREAT- Severed Hand, Life Wasted, Marker In The Sand, WWS, Come back
    GOOD- Big Wave, Army Reserve, Wasted Reprise, Comatose
    POOR- Gone, Inside Job,
    Terrible: Parachutes, Unemployable
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,997
    I started a trend haha

    Just happy to see Severed Hand in the great lists!
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • mschostok
    mschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    I think Marker is a great lyric, I think one of their more underrated tunes. I honestly could never get into Inside Job, just think it sounds cheesy, too prog. rocky which I don't think the band ever did very well. However, it's one of my favorite albums.
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  • GREAT- Severed Hand, Life Wasted, Marker In The Sand, WWS, Come back, Comatose, Gone, Inside Job
    GOOD- Unemployable, Army Reserve
    "MEH"- Big Wave, Wasted Reprise (does this count?), Parachutes
    POOR- None
    Terrible: None
  • walkunafraid
    walkunafraid Posts: 2,655
    edited October 2015



    Severed Hand- Decent music, but some of the lyrics make me cringe: "Tried to walk found a severed hand/ recognized it from the wedding band." TF???

    For about 7 years I've been intent on writing an exposition about the parallels (intentional or not) between Self-Titled and George Orwell's 1984. There are a TON of lyrical references throughout the songs (excepting Big Wave, which is a large part of the reason why it doesn't seem to fit in to me) that are so closely connected to Orwell's novel that I am convinced there's something deeper under the surface of the album that just hasn't been dug out yet.

    Anyway, your comment about Severed Hand reminded me to look back at the part of the novel where Winston is musing about how he and most others in his society have become dehumanized by the government and themselves, at which point he recalls walking down the street and coming across a severed hand:
    The proles had stayed human. They had not become hardened inside. They had held on to the primitive emotions which he himself had to re-learn by conscious effort. And in thinking this he remembered, without apparent relevance, how a few weeks ago he had seen a severed hand lying on the pavement and had kicked it into the gutter as though it had been a cabbage-stalk.
    'The proles are human beings,' he said aloud. 'We are not human.'
    When I have enough time I'll get to writing something more about the song as a whole, and the other songs, and how they relate to the novel, in my opinion. I might be way off-base, but I've thought about this a lot and really do think there's something potentially there.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    mcgruff10 said:

    Good album that was very much needed after the two previous flops. I wish they d play marker more live; on the flip side inside job might be one of their most boring songs live after what seems like a two hour intro. The 06 tour was great imo, I wish I could have caught more shows that year.

    I really dislike Inside Job. Lyrics reminds me of a Celine Dion song.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    mcgruff10 said:

    Good album that was very much needed after the two previous flops. I wish they d play marker more live; on the flip side inside job might be one of their most boring songs live after what seems like a two hour intro. The 06 tour was great imo, I wish I could have caught more shows that year.

    I really dislike Inside Job. Lyrics reminds me of a Celine Dion song.
    I feel like with the groove, the opening solo (Page style) and the title, this could have been a political song about how most military actions today are inside jobs, driven by the military industrial complex. Alas, the opportunity was missed.
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,997



    Severed Hand- Decent music, but some of the lyrics make me cringe: "Tried to walk found a severed hand/ recognized it from the wedding band." TF???

    For about 7 years I've been intent on writing an exposition about the parallels (intentional or not) between Self-Titled and George Orwell's 1984. There are a TON of lyrical references throughout the songs (excepting Big Wave, which is a large part of the reason why it doesn't seem to fit in to me) that are so closely connected to Orwell's novel that I am convinced there's something deeper under the surface of the album that just hasn't been dug out yet.

    Anyway, your comment about Severed Hand reminded me to look back at the part of the novel where Winston is musing about how he and most others in his society have become dehumanized by the government and themselves, at which point he recalls walking down the street and coming across a severed hand:
    The proles had stayed human. They had not become hardened inside. They had held on to the primitive emotions which he himself had to re-learn by conscious effort. And in thinking this he remembered, without apparent relevance, how a few weeks ago he had seen a severed hand lying on the pavement and had kicked it into the gutter as though it had been a cabbage-stalk.
    'The proles are human beings,' he said aloud. 'We are not human.'
    When I have enough time I'll get to writing something more about the song as a whole, and the other songs, and how they relate to the novel, in my opinion. I might be way off-base, but I've thought about this a lot and really do think there's something potentially there.

    Whoa cool stuff- I'd love to read.
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • samjam
    samjam New York Posts: 9,283



    And yes to whoever said that the end of marker in the sand is some of the finest pearl jam ever. The whole song really.

    Came here to add that MITS is definitely one of the most underrated PJ songs. So good. So very good.
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  • samjam said:



    And yes to whoever said that the end of marker in the sand is some of the finest pearl jam ever. The whole song really.

    Came here to add that MITS is definitely one of the most underrated PJ songs. So good. So very good.
    Good stuff! Thanks for bumping this with your opinion.
    The touring year of this album was amazing.
    MITS is simply fantastic.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    mrussel1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Good album that was very much needed after the two previous flops. I wish they d play marker more live; on the flip side inside job might be one of their most boring songs live after what seems like a two hour intro. The 06 tour was great imo, I wish I could have caught more shows that year.

    I really dislike Inside Job. Lyrics reminds me of a Celine Dion song.
    I feel like with the groove, the opening solo (Page style) and the title, this could have been a political song about how most military actions today are inside jobs, driven by the military industrial complex. Alas, the opportunity was missed.
    Hey look at me! I'm running in the rain to be a human light again!!!

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  • mrussel1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Good album that was very much needed after the two previous flops. I wish they d play marker more live; on the flip side inside job might be one of their most boring songs live after what seems like a two hour intro. The 06 tour was great imo, I wish I could have caught more shows that year.

    I really dislike Inside Job. Lyrics reminds me of a Celine Dion song.
    I feel like with the groove, the opening solo (Page style) and the title, this could have been a political song about how most military actions today are inside jobs, driven by the military industrial complex. Alas, the opportunity was missed.
    Hey look at me! I'm running in the rain to be a human light again!!!

    Cheese.
    Nailed it with your lyrics in all ways!
    100%
    or is it

    Let me run into the rain
    To be a human light again
  • Great:

    Marker in the Sand, Come Back

    Good:

    Life Wasted, Severed Hand

    Skippable:

    Big Wave, Gone (one of my least favorite songs in catalogue), Army Reserve
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590

    mrussel1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Good album that was very much needed after the two previous flops. I wish they d play marker more live; on the flip side inside job might be one of their most boring songs live after what seems like a two hour intro. The 06 tour was great imo, I wish I could have caught more shows that year.

    I really dislike Inside Job. Lyrics reminds me of a Celine Dion song.
    I feel like with the groove, the opening solo (Page style) and the title, this could have been a political song about how most military actions today are inside jobs, driven by the military industrial complex. Alas, the opportunity was missed.
    Hey look at me! I'm running in the rain to be a human light again!!!

    Cheese.
    Nailed it with your lyrics in all ways!
    100%
    or is it

    Let me run into the rain
    To be a human light again
    not familiar with paraphrasing, eh?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590

    Great:

    Marker in the Sand, Come Back

    Good:

    Life Wasted, Severed Hand

    Skippable:

    Big Wave, Gone (one of my least favorite songs in catalogue), Army Reserve

    always felt marker and come back are incredibly underrated songs

    and I've grown to like gone over the years. wasn't a favorite at first.
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