The Aging of Avocado

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  • Eraserhead
    Eraserhead Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 2,981
    Looking through this thread it's great to see a big wave (chuckle) of opposing thoughts. I stand by my earlier comment of Parachutes being one of the worst songs the band has ever done, and to add to that, Inside Job is one of the best (top 5 for me).
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    I really, really don't get the mass love for Marker? Did I get a different version of this song than everyone else?
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  • Of The Aggie
    Of The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,550
    Really love this album after not liking it when it first came out. Only "bad" songs are Parachutes and Army Reserve.
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    Not a huge fan of this album although I gave it a good try in 2006. I can listen to the tunes in mall doses when they're interspersed with all their other classics on all the bootlegs.
  • Ozzie
    Ozzie Posts: 231
    Has aged well; better than any other avocado I've ever bought!
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  • BeerBaron
    BeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,100
    Overall, not an album that I listed to a lot, but it does have its moments.

    My breakdown:
    GREAT: Life Wasted, Marker, Parachutes, Come Back
    GOOD: Army Reserve, Comatose, Severed Hand, Inside Job
    SKIPPABLE: Wasted Repise, WWS, Gone, Big Wave, Unemployable


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  • whoanelly15
    whoanelly15 Posts: 742
    HesCalledDyer said:

    I really, really don't get the mass love for Marker? Did I get a different version of this song than everyone else?

    Haha. You must have. Only reasonable explanation, really, cause it's magic!
  • CarryTheZero
    CarryTheZero Posts: 3,465
    Avocado is one of my favorites! Front to back I love it. I tend to skip Gone a bit, but nothing for me is better than closers Come Back and Inside Job. First six tracks are just amazing as well.
  • cameramoonstone
    cameramoonstone Posts: 23
    Eraserhead said:

    Looking through this thread it's great to see a big wave (chuckle) of opposing thoughts. I stand by my earlier comment of Parachutes being one of the worst songs the band has ever done, and to add to that, Inside Job is one of the best (top 5 for me).

    I too like seeing everyone's different opinions on each song. Such a great demonstration of how it's almost impossible to objectively state what is "good" vs "bad" when talking about art. We always have to know that it's what we like vs what we don't like, for whatever subjective reasons...

    Re: Inside Job, the first time I really heard the lyrics I was blown away and so grateful to Mike for writing that song. As someone 12+ years in recovery, the lyrics are incredibly meaningful to me and I imagine to anyone else who knows, from deep in their heart and soul, exactly what he is talking about. Some of the lyrics can be taken literally, other phrases are more metaphorical, but altogether I think the song is a beautiful testament to faith and hope and redemption.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    cameramoonstone said:

    Eraserhead said:

    Looking through this thread it's great to see a big wave (chuckle) of opposing thoughts. I stand by my earlier comment of Parachutes being one of the worst songs the band has ever done, and to add to that, Inside Job is one of the best (top 5 for me).

    I too like seeing everyone's different opinions on each song. Such a great demonstration of how it's almost impossible to objectively state what is "good" vs "bad" when talking about art. We always have to know that it's what we like vs what we don't like, for whatever subjective reasons...

    Re: Inside Job, the first time I really heard the lyrics I was blown away and so grateful to Mike for writing that song. As someone 12+ years in recovery, the lyrics are incredibly meaningful to me and I imagine to anyone else who knows, from deep in their heart and soul, exactly what he is talking about. Some of the lyrics can be taken literally, other phrases are more metaphorical, but altogether I think the song is a beautiful testament to faith and hope and redemption.
    Nice post.
  • mschostok
    mschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    Marker is probably one of my favorite songs in the catalogue, definitely top 10.
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  • shetellsherself
    shetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,835
    edited November 2015
    my2hands said:

    Avocado... has balls

    Yes

    I love avocado. For me every song is awesome in some way. Big wave would be my least favorite but even this one is fun and quirky. I'm really hoping to catch inside job next tour. Don't have avocado on vinyl yet. Probably not in the near future either esp with tour dates likely to be announced soon
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  • Karts
    Karts Posts: 120
    This is my third favorite in the catalog after Yield and Vs.

    Beginning to end it is driving and doesn't relent. Only song I ever skip is Big Wave. Army Reserve is underrated, amazing bass lines and fittingly grainy vocals.

    It should have been their last album... What has come after has simply been legacy damaging.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,661
    edited November 2015
    Karts said:

    This is my third favorite in the catalog after Yield and Vs.

    Beginning to end it is driving and doesn't relent. Only song I ever skip is Big Wave. Army Reserve is underrated, amazing bass lines and fittingly grainy vocals.

    It should have been their last album... What has come after has simply been legacy damaging.

    Legacy damaging? That seems a bit harsh. Yeah, they are inferior albums to what came before for a lot of people (very much so IMO), but it never even crossed my mind to let the effect my feelings about what came before them. I don't think that a bad album or two can damage great legacies. Especially not when the live shows are still so good.
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  • gettingright
    gettingright Posts: 550
    I was listening to this the other morning, after maybe a couple year hiatus. I remember liking the album a lot but also feeling like the songs/album would be dated due to the war/current events subject matter.

    I was shocked and saddened at how relevant the songs still are today as they were nearly 10 years ago...

    "...what a different life had i not found this love with you..."
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    mschostok said:

    Marker is probably one of my favorite songs in the catalogue, definitely top 10.

    Same here. Brilliant song.

    I've actually been listening to this album a lot in the last week after just hearing the occasional song on shuffle. It has aged very well, in my opinion. Great album!
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  • wg
    wg Posts: 411
    ...and such is the ebb and flow of PJ fans (and many other fan bases as well).

    The new album sucks. This is shit. Why couldn't the new album be better than the last. Etc. etc...

    Only to find 10 years later, it's actually a pretty killer album.

    I worked in a record store when Avocado came out and I remember everyone shitting on it. Blah blah blah. I thought it was awesome! It's up there with No Code and Yield (and Vitalogy and Binaural and Vs. and Ten and...)

    Same with backspacer.

    Same with lightning bolt.

    I predict in a few years, the same thread will be made for these two albums.

    Avocado fucking rocks! And Side A is a monster!
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    edited December 2015
    whoanelly15 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    I really, really don't get the mass love for Marker? Did I get a different version of this song than everyone else?

    Haha. You must have. Only reasonable explanation, really, cause it's magic!
    One of my least favorite in their entire catalog. It really does nothing for me. And I like magic :tongue:
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    HesCalledDyer said:

    whoanelly15 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    I really, really don't get the mass love for Marker? Did I get a different version of this song than everyone else?

    Haha. You must have. Only reasonable explanation, really, cause it's magic!
    One of my least favorite in their entire catalog. It really does nothing for me. And I like magic :tongue:
    Try it one more time :smile:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0g1KWgsjz4
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    whoanelly15 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    I really, really don't get the mass love for Marker? Did I get a different version of this song than everyone else?

    Haha. You must have. Only reasonable explanation, really, cause it's magic!
    One of my least favorite in their entire catalog. It really does nothing for me. And I like magic :tongue:
    Try it one more time :smile:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0g1KWgsjz4
    so damn good.
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