The Aging of Avocado

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  • pearljam1809
    pearljam1809 Posts: 863
    I usually skip it, but I listened to it yesterday from start to finish, so many great songs!
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    whoanelly15 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    I really, really don't get the mass love for Marker? Did I get a different version of this song than everyone else?

    Haha. You must have. Only reasonable explanation, really, cause it's magic!
    One of my least favorite in their entire catalog. It really does nothing for me. And I like magic :tongue:
    Try it one more time :smile:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0g1KWgsjz4
    Fucking amazing version!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • pledgeagrievance
    pledgeagrievance Posts: 2,874
    Where is the version taken from? Thanks
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    pledgeagrievance said:

    Where is the version taken from? Thanks


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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    When it came out, and still to this day I think it's the best album they've put out post yield. Love this album. Sure there's a song or two I'm not hugely fond it, but as a whole it's really really good.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Lemon juice on the meat and pit - liberally.

    Hold the cilantro.
  • TL170678
    TL170678 Near Louisville, in Indiana, closer to Kentucky Posts: 422
    At the Cincy show in 06 it seemed everyone knew every word of the Avocado songs... Not like that for the Lightning Bolt and Riot Act shows I saw. Could have been the Yayo but that felt like the most energetic concert I ever seen. The only time I been apart of that loud/energetic of a crowd was Pantera concerts at Louisville Gardens.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
    ^^^
    The Avocado tour was amazing. Everyone was on their feet watching and singing along with the band with their eyes not through a cell phone.
    Times have changed with this generation. Unless a band has an immediate #1 out of the gates they are doomed.
    What a ride. Thanks Pearl Jam.
  • FrankY59
    FrankY59 Posts: 1,052
    Avocado too political. I don't like politics.
  • Mignelli14
    Mignelli14 Posts: 626
    Mike's, Jeff's, and Ed's movement in that Letterman performance makes me want to rock out so hard. Awesome version
  • EB218946
    EB218946 Posts: 4,011
    I agree Mignelli14 - loved Mike and Ed in that performance. Magically!
  • CharlieP
    CharlieP Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,035
    I can't, for the life of me, figure out, how Parachutes became such an underrated song. It´s clever, it´s melodic, it´s haunting. The melody/chord structures are intelligently written and it has such a nice flow. It´s a winner in my book!

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  • CharlieP
    CharlieP Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,035
    By the way, my ranking:

    AWESOME: Marker in the sand, Parachutes, Come back, Army reserve
    GOOD: Life wasted, WWS, Wasted reprise, Unemployable, Inside job, Severed hand, Comatose
    SKIPPABLE: Big wave, Gone

    Roskilde 2000, Berlin 2006, Athens 2006, Dusseldorf 2007, Copenhagen 2007, New York NY 1 + 2 2008, Berlin 2009, London 2009, London 2010, Berlin 2010, Manchester 2 2012, Berlin 1 2012, Stockholm 2012, Oslo 2012, Copenhagen 2012, Amsterdam 1 + 2 (EV solo) 2012, Amsterdam 1 + 2 2014, Stockholm 2014, Oslo 2014, Leeds 2014, Milton Keynes 2014, Heartland Festival DK (EV solo) 2017, Berlin 2018, Barcelona 2018, Copenhagen 2022, Prague 2022 (Cancelled)



  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    CharlieP said:

    I can't, for the life of me, figure out, how Parachutes became such an underrated song. It´s clever, it´s melodic, it´s haunting. The melody/chord structures are intelligently written and it has such a nice flow. It´s a winner in my book!

    Honestly, it s just really really boring live.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,661
    mcgruff10 said:

    CharlieP said:

    I can't, for the life of me, figure out, how Parachutes became such an underrated song. It´s clever, it´s melodic, it´s haunting. The melody/chord structures are intelligently written and it has such a nice flow. It´s a winner in my book!

    Honestly, it s just really really boring live.
    Not if you love the song.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • EBowie
    EBowie Posts: 533
    I really love many of the songs on this album but I can't ignore the horrendously painful, ear-bleeding inducing production. It's like the mastering was done by a handful of dudes locked in a control-room and weren't allowed to leave until they finished both the album and their keg of I.P.A. It is beyond me how a band as talented as Pearl Jam can put their final stamp of approval on this kind of production. Please remaster this thing!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,661
    EBowie said:

    I really love many of the songs on this album but I can't ignore the horrendously painful, ear-bleeding inducing production. It's like the mastering was done by a handful of dudes locked in a control-room and weren't allowed to leave until they finished both the album and their keg of I.P.A. It is beyond me how a band as talented as Pearl Jam can put their final stamp of approval on this kind of production. Please remaster this thing!

    I keep reading that, but I think it sounds good. It is definitely mastered loud, but I think it actually really suits this particular album, and am quite happy with how the vinyl sounds.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • EBowie
    EBowie Posts: 533
    PJ_Soul said:

    EBowie said:

    I really love many of the songs on this album but I can't ignore the horrendously painful, ear-bleeding inducing production. It's like the mastering was done by a handful of dudes locked in a control-room and weren't allowed to leave until they finished both the album and their keg of I.P.A. It is beyond me how a band as talented as Pearl Jam can put their final stamp of approval on this kind of production. Please remaster this thing!

    I keep reading that, but I think it sounds good. It is definitely mastered loud, but I think it actually really suits this particular album, and am quite happy with how the vinyl sounds.
    Perhaps it sounds good in certain contexts---like blasting through a boombox while playing beach volleyball or something. It reminds me of Californication---both fantastic albums song-wise that are really hurt by brutal production. Try listening to either of these with quality headphones and see if you make it past the second or third song.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,661
    EBowie said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EBowie said:

    I really love many of the songs on this album but I can't ignore the horrendously painful, ear-bleeding inducing production. It's like the mastering was done by a handful of dudes locked in a control-room and weren't allowed to leave until they finished both the album and their keg of I.P.A. It is beyond me how a band as talented as Pearl Jam can put their final stamp of approval on this kind of production. Please remaster this thing!

    I keep reading that, but I think it sounds good. It is definitely mastered loud, but I think it actually really suits this particular album, and am quite happy with how the vinyl sounds.
    Perhaps it sounds good in certain contexts---like blasting through a boombox while playing beach volleyball or something. It reminds me of Californication---both fantastic albums song-wise that are really hurt by brutal production. Try listening to either of these with quality headphones and see if you make it past the second or third song.
    I don't know, lol. I spin it in my living room through a good sound system. Sounds good! And I am reasonably discriminating. I just think the mastering fits the music in this case I guess.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • EBowie
    EBowie Posts: 533
    edited December 2015



    All good. It's just that, for me, I want a balanced mastering job not one that "fits the music". If I want it louder, I can turn up the volume on my stereo, etc. The loudness problem in modern production is very real and well-documented and I just find it a shame that one of PJ's albums fell victim to it.

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