Because it isn't the breed, it's the owners. Is this where I sound like a gun nut? I don't know anymore. These bans are collective punishment and prohibition at their core. Telling me I can't choose a pet that is virtually indistinguishable from my neighbour's pet (not a fucking cougar), is undue government interference in my life. (Is this where I sound right wing?). Call me melodramatic if you want, but to me it is what it is. Regulate the hell out of every aspect of breeding, ownership, licensing/registration, whatever (yay! Leftist again!). ...an outright ban is contrary to my beliefs on several levels. There has got to be a better way.
again:
He said it's about protecting the breed from irresponsible owners who may want the breed for inhumane reasons.
How is a BAN protecting them? If every district bans them, what is the end result for the breed?
My gf and I have been considering getting a dog. We're leaning toward a Siberian husky if we decide to proceed.... But I'm really concerned what you'd all think of me if that's the breed we choose...? How big would you think my dick was? Would I look tough or like I was compensating? Do I need to start growing a mullet now, or shouldni buy a tap out shirt and some bling? Or are huskies acceptable? I don't know. Please let me know how you all would judge me for choosing a non-lap dog.
In all seriousness...
Once we get the kids out of the house (one's in university right now), the plan is to move outside of city limits to a place where we don't have a neighbour within shouting distance (close to my favourite golf course as well). When we make that move, we will also have the time to train a dog correctly.
This dog would be of the larger and stronger variety.
Not to throw your full disclosure in your face( I appreciate your candor...but you know this begs the question... Why a big, strong breed? What's the attraction to a large breed when there is still a risk of something going wrong? Isn't that a big component of your argument?
The area we are moving to is off the beaten track. I think having a larger dog for companionship on walks through the forest is a good idea. I've always maintained that in certain areas, some dogs are very appropriate (I did so very recently in one of my last posts in this thread). I have no problem with RG and his pit bulls given his rural setting.
* In Montreal, pit bulls made up roughly 5% of the registered dogs, while accounting for a third of the dog attacks. Why is this?
societal oppression at the hands of the yorkies since the 60's.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
He's full of shit and a stupid idiot, which goes without saying. He has no idea what he's talking about, and I think it's safe to assume that he knows absolutely nothing about Canada's healthcare system (frankly, this is barely a question worth answering, since it's an answer to Trump-nonsense). Sure some people go out of country and pay for it themselves, but these are not life-saving operations unless there are so few specialists you h to travel to find one. People in many countries, including the US, may be forced to do that. At any rate, Canada does NOT have a single payer system. There are private clinics that rich people can go to within Canada to avoid wait lists. My sister and brother-in-law do it all the time because they are rich. For me, I am very, very happy to face some wait lists for non-essential medical procedures if it means that nobody has to worry about money when they need medical care and that nobody goes broke just because they get sick. The healthcare system that Trump promotes is one big disgusting human rights violation as far as I'm concerned.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Because it isn't the breed, it's the owners. Is this where I sound like a gun nut? I don't know anymore. These bans are collective punishment and prohibition at their core. Telling me I can't choose a pet that is virtually indistinguishable from my neighbour's pet (not a fucking cougar), is undue government interference in my life. (Is this where I sound right wing?). Call me melodramatic if you want, but to me it is what it is. Regulate the hell out of every aspect of breeding, ownership, licensing/registration, whatever (yay! Leftist again!). ...an outright ban is contrary to my beliefs on several levels. There has got to be a better way.
again:
He said it's about protecting the breed from irresponsible owners who may want the breed for inhumane reasons.
How is a BAN protecting them? If every district bans them, what is the end result for the breed?
My gf and I have been considering getting a dog. We're leaning toward a Siberian husky if we decide to proceed.... But I'm really concerned what you'd all think of me if that's the breed we choose...? How big would you think my dick was? Would I look tough or like I was compensating? Do I need to start growing a mullet now, or shouldni buy a tap out shirt and some bling? Or are huskies acceptable? I don't know. Please let me know how you all would judge me for choosing a non-lap dog.
In all seriousness...
Once we get the kids out of the house (one's in university right now), the plan is to move outside of city limits to a place where we don't have a neighbour within shouting distance (close to my favourite golf course as well). When we make that move, we will also have the time to train a dog correctly.
This dog would be of the larger and stronger variety.
Not to throw your full disclosure in your face( I appreciate your candor...but you know this begs the question... Why a big, strong breed? What's the attraction to a large breed when there is still a risk of something going wrong? Isn't that a big component of your argument?
Not that you asked me, but FWIW, I simply don't like little dogs because they are annoying and I don't find them particularly appealing. I like the big dogs because, well, they're hilarious. I don't like them for strength at all. I like them because they are big, loping, goofy, fun but tough dogs who are way more fun to play with than little dogs, lol, and their barks are never irritating yips and yaps.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
He's full of shit and a stupid idiot, which goes without saying. He has no idea what he's talking about, and I think it's safe to assume that he knows absolutely nothing about Canada's healthcare system (frankly, this is barely a question worth answering, since it's an answer to Trump-nonsense). Sure some people go out of country and pay for it themselves, but these are not life-saving operations unless there are so few specialists you h to travel to find one. People in many countries, including the US, may be forced to do that. At any rate, Canada does NOT have a single payer system. There are private clinics that rich people can go to within Canada to avoid wait lists. My sister and brother-in-law do it all the time because they are rich. For me, I am very, very happy to face some wait lists for non-essential medical procedures if it means that nobody has to worry about money when they need medical care and that nobody goes broke just because they get sick. The healthcare system that Trump promotes is one big disgusting human rights violation as far as I'm concerned.
It's far from catastrophic no doubt, but whether you like to admit it or not he's right it's slow...sorry truth hurts for some. I live in a border town across from Detroit and once again he's right, many people are sent from this area to Detroit because they can't get the life saving treatment here or the air ambulance ride would take to long to London where more specialist are located...those are just facts and as far as I'm concerned when we as Canadians won't admit the fault of the system then the government has no incentive to boost healthcare spending to sustainable levels. And healthcare rarely takes the front seat in election campaigns and should be front and centre of every campaign, it's also time to expand our healthcare to include pharmacare, dental, and eye exams from coast to coast to coast...
Now don't get me wrong I'm not knocking our system, it sure is better than the US system...and just being able to flash my health card at any clinic, hospital or for most any procedure and never having paper work to sign or submit...is SWEET. I would love to see the federal government and provinces put training of healthcare professionals in northern communities so hopefully they stay in northern communities and provide quality medicene where gaps so often exist.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
He's full of shit and a stupid idiot, which goes without saying. He has no idea what he's talking about, and I think it's safe to assume that he knows absolutely nothing about Canada's healthcare system (frankly, this is barely a question worth answering, since it's an answer to Trump-nonsense). Sure some people go out of country and pay for it themselves, but these are not life-saving operations unless there are so few specialists you h to travel to find one. People in many countries, including the US, may be forced to do that. At any rate, Canada does NOT have a single payer system. There are private clinics that rich people can go to within Canada to avoid wait lists. My sister and brother-in-law do it all the time because they are rich. For me, I am very, very happy to face some wait lists for non-essential medical procedures if it means that nobody has to worry about money when they need medical care and that nobody goes broke just because they get sick. The healthcare system that Trump promotes is one big disgusting human rights violation as far as I'm concerned.
It's far from catastrophic no doubt, but whether you like to admit it or not he's right it's slow...sorry truth hurts for some. I live in a border town across from Detroit and once again he's right, many people are sent from this area to Detroit because they can't get the life saving treatment here or the air ambulance ride would take to long to London where more specialist are located...those are just facts and as far as I'm concerned when we as Canadians won't admit the fault of the system then the government has no incentive to boost healthcare spending to sustainable levels. And healthcare rarely takes the front seat in election campaigns and should be front and centre of every campaign, it's also time to expand our healthcare to include pharmacare, dental, and eye exams from coast to coast to coast...
Now don't get me wrong I'm not knocking our system, it sure is better than the US system...and just being able to flash my health card at any clinic, hospital or for most any procedure and never having paper work to sign or submit...is SWEET. I would love to see the federal government and provinces put training of healthcare professionals in northern communities so hopefully they stay in northern communities and provide quality medicene where gaps so often exist.
The truth doesn't hurt me. I know what the wait lists are like, and I never claimed there weren't any. However, I do live in BC, where the system is supposedly way better than it is in Ontario. That might be an argument for federalizing health care or at least more federal involvement. But yes indeed, our system isn't perfect... But compared to the USA's system it's phenomenal and causes far less suffering and hardship. Trump is an idiot.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
He's full of shit and a stupid idiot, which goes without saying. He has no idea what he's talking about, and I think it's safe to assume that he knows absolutely nothing about Canada's healthcare system (frankly, this is barely a question worth answering, since it's an answer to Trump-nonsense). Sure some people go out of country and pay for it themselves, but these are not life-saving operations unless there are so few specialists you h to travel to find one. People in many countries, including the US, may be forced to do that. At any rate, Canada does NOT have a single payer system. There are private clinics that rich people can go to within Canada to avoid wait lists. My sister and brother-in-law do it all the time because they are rich. For me, I am very, very happy to face some wait lists for non-essential medical procedures if it means that nobody has to worry about money when they need medical care and that nobody goes broke just because they get sick. The healthcare system that Trump promotes is one big disgusting human rights violation as far as I'm concerned.
It's far from catastrophic no doubt, but whether you like to admit it or not he's right it's slow...sorry truth hurts for some. I live in a border town across from Detroit and once again he's right, many people are sent from this area to Detroit because they can't get the life saving treatment here or the air ambulance ride would take to long to London where more specialist are located...those are just facts and as far as I'm concerned when we as Canadians won't admit the fault of the system then the government has no incentive to boost healthcare spending to sustainable levels. And healthcare rarely takes the front seat in election campaigns and should be front and centre of every campaign, it's also time to expand our healthcare to include pharmacare, dental, and eye exams from coast to coast to coast...
Now don't get me wrong I'm not knocking our system, it sure is better than the US system...and just being able to flash my health card at any clinic, hospital or for most any procedure and never having paper work to sign or submit...is SWEET. I would love to see the federal government and provinces put training of healthcare professionals in northern communities so hopefully they stay in northern communities and provide quality medicene where gaps so often exist.
The truth doesn't hurt me. I know what the wait lists are like, and I never claimed there weren't any. However, I do live in BC, where the system is supposedly way better than it is in Ontario. That might be an argument for federalizing health care or at least more federal involvement. But yes indeed, our system isn't perfect... But compared to the USA's system it's phenomenal and causes far less suffering and hardship. Trump is an idiot.
How do you know it's way better than ontario .... you should chill a little, I'm sure your girl Hillary will make things so much better, like either one is a good choice, looks good on America.
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I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
He's full of shit and a stupid idiot, which goes without saying. He has no idea what he's talking about, and I think it's safe to assume that he knows absolutely nothing about Canada's healthcare system (frankly, this is barely a question worth answering, since it's an answer to Trump-nonsense). Sure some people go out of country and pay for it themselves, but these are not life-saving operations unless there are so few specialists you h to travel to find one. People in many countries, including the US, may be forced to do that. At any rate, Canada does NOT have a single payer system. There are private clinics that rich people can go to within Canada to avoid wait lists. My sister and brother-in-law do it all the time because they are rich. For me, I am very, very happy to face some wait lists for non-essential medical procedures if it means that nobody has to worry about money when they need medical care and that nobody goes broke just because they get sick. The healthcare system that Trump promotes is one big disgusting human rights violation as far as I'm concerned.
It's far from catastrophic no doubt, but whether you like to admit it or not he's right it's slow...sorry truth hurts for some. I live in a border town across from Detroit and once again he's right, many people are sent from this area to Detroit because they can't get the life saving treatment here or the air ambulance ride would take to long to London where more specialist are located...those are just facts and as far as I'm concerned when we as Canadians won't admit the fault of the system then the government has no incentive to boost healthcare spending to sustainable levels. And healthcare rarely takes the front seat in election campaigns and should be front and centre of every campaign, it's also time to expand our healthcare to include pharmacare, dental, and eye exams from coast to coast to coast...
Now don't get me wrong I'm not knocking our system, it sure is better than the US system...and just being able to flash my health card at any clinic, hospital or for most any procedure and never having paper work to sign or submit...is SWEET. I would love to see the federal government and provinces put training of healthcare professionals in northern communities so hopefully they stay in northern communities and provide quality medicene where gaps so often exist.
The truth doesn't hurt me. I know what the wait lists are like, and I never claimed there weren't any. However, I do live in BC, where the system is supposedly way better than it is in Ontario. That might be an argument for federalizing health care or at least more federal involvement. But yes indeed, our system isn't perfect... But compared to the USA's system it's phenomenal and causes far less suffering and hardship. Trump is an idiot.
How do you know it's way better than ontario .... you should chill a little, I'm sure your girl Hillary will make things so much better, like either one is a good choice, looks good on America.
You say the strangest things sometimes, lol. I am perfectly chill, as was my post, so I don't know why you responded with hostility. BTW, I'm not a Hillary supporter - she isn't "my girl". I said that it is SUPPOSEDLY way better than it is in Ontario based on a bunch of things I've read in various places (including stats), and a bunch of things people from Ontario have told me (including here on the boards).
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
He's full of shit and a stupid idiot, which goes without saying. He has no idea what he's talking about, and I think it's safe to assume that he knows absolutely nothing about Canada's healthcare system (frankly, this is barely a question worth answering, since it's an answer to Trump-nonsense). Sure some people go out of country and pay for it themselves, but these are not life-saving operations unless there are so few specialists you h to travel to find one. People in many countries, including the US, may be forced to do that. At any rate, Canada does NOT have a single payer system. There are private clinics that rich people can go to within Canada to avoid wait lists. My sister and brother-in-law do it all the time because they are rich. For me, I am very, very happy to face some wait lists for non-essential medical procedures if it means that nobody has to worry about money when they need medical care and that nobody goes broke just because they get sick. The healthcare system that Trump promotes is one big disgusting human rights violation as far as I'm concerned.
It's far from catastrophic no doubt, but whether you like to admit it or not he's right it's slow...sorry truth hurts for some. I live in a border town across from Detroit and once again he's right, many people are sent from this area to Detroit because they can't get the life saving treatment here or the air ambulance ride would take to long to London where more specialist are located...those are just facts and as far as I'm concerned when we as Canadians won't admit the fault of the system then the government has no incentive to boost healthcare spending to sustainable levels. And healthcare rarely takes the front seat in election campaigns and should be front and centre of every campaign, it's also time to expand our healthcare to include pharmacare, dental, and eye exams from coast to coast to coast...
Now don't get me wrong I'm not knocking our system, it sure is better than the US system...and just being able to flash my health card at any clinic, hospital or for most any procedure and never having paper work to sign or submit...is SWEET. I would love to see the federal government and provinces put training of healthcare professionals in northern communities so hopefully they stay in northern communities and provide quality medicene where gaps so often exist.
The truth doesn't hurt me. I know what the wait lists are like, and I never claimed there weren't any. However, I do live in BC, where the system is supposedly way better than it is in Ontario. That might be an argument for federalizing health care or at least more federal involvement. But yes indeed, our system isn't perfect... But compared to the USA's system it's phenomenal and causes far less suffering and hardship. Trump is an idiot.
How do you know it's way better than ontario .... you should chill a little, I'm sure your girl Hillary will make things so much better, like either one is a good choice, looks good on America.
You say the strangest things sometimes, lol. I am perfectly chill, as was my post, so I don't know why you responded with hostility. BTW, I'm not a Hillary supporter - she isn't "my girl". I said that it is SUPPOSEDLY way better than it is in Ontario based on a bunch of things I've read in various places (including stats), and a bunch of things people from Ontario have told me (including here on the boards).
Lol
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Our wait lists are long and population is full of retirees that access the system routinely.
What makes you think it's worse than Ontario though? Especially the retiree part, by which I assume you mean seniors. Ontario and BC have pretty much the same number of seniors per capita. Ontario is around 15% and BC is about 16%. And wait lists are long in both provinces. But from what I have read (i know, not a scientific statement), the differences start coming when you look at plain old administrative issues. Like, basically more cluster fucks for people in ON. Of course Ontario's population is way way bigger than BC's, which I imagine poses some extra challenge in administration?
Anyway, back to comparing the Canadian system and the American system, I found this tidbit in the Globe and Mail:
"Canada spends more on health care than the average for Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development member countries, but not by much. Average annual health spending in the 34 industrialized countries was $3,590 per capita in 2012, or 9.4 per cent of gross domestic product.
Canada spent $4,602 per capita that year, or 10.9 per cent of GDP, on health-care.....
....Only the American system fared worse. In 2012, the U.S. spent $8,745 per capita or 16.9 per cent of GDP on health care, vastly outstripping other OECD countries."
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
"Under Mr. Harper, there were so many people dissatisfied with the government and its approach that they were saying, 'We need an electoral reform so that we can no longer have a government we don't like,'" Trudeau explained.
"However, under the current system, they now have a government they are more satisfied with. And the motivation to want to change the electoral system is less urgent."
"Under Mr. Harper, there were so many people dissatisfied with the government and its approach that they were saying, 'We need an electoral reform so that we can no longer have a government we don't like,'" Trudeau explained.
"However, under the current system, they now have a government they are more satisfied with. And the motivation to want to change the electoral system is less urgent."
I was just about to post the article...I'm not surprised, he's not willing to give up the power he enjoys, he almost certain to gain a second majority.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Under Mr. Harper, there were so many people dissatisfied with the government and its approach that they were saying, 'We need an electoral reform so that we can no longer have a government we don't like,'" Trudeau explained.
"However, under the current system, they now have a government they are more satisfied with. And the motivation to want to change the electoral system is less urgent."
I was just about to post the article...I'm not surprised, he's not willing to give up the power he enjoys, he almost certain to gain a second majority.
Maybe, but he's stabbing the voters that gave him the majority in the back. See how it plays out.
"Under Mr. Harper, there were so many people dissatisfied with the government and its approach that they were saying, 'We need an electoral reform so that we can no longer have a government we don't like,'" Trudeau explained.
"However, under the current system, they now have a government they are more satisfied with. And the motivation to want to change the electoral system is less urgent."
I was just about to post the article...I'm not surprised, he's not willing to give up the power he enjoys, he almost certain to gain a second majority.
Maybe, but he's stabbing the voters that gave him the majority in the back. See how it plays out.
Quite probably, but these politicians love power and don't like to relinquish it and I'm assuming we would have headed toward proportional representation.
And I've always said you can't distuinguish between the cons or libs, there one and the same to me...
And when he doesn't follow through on pot legalization he'll lose the youth vote, which from what I understood was quite better than previous elections and we can only assume that they turned out because they thought he'd legalize pot, electoral reform and keep the oil in the ground...and he only has a 15 seat majority.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Under Mr. Harper, there were so many people dissatisfied with the government and its approach that they were saying, 'We need an electoral reform so that we can no longer have a government we don't like,'" Trudeau explained.
"However, under the current system, they now have a government they are more satisfied with. And the motivation to want to change the electoral system is less urgent."
I finally realized last night that we need to stop talking electoral reform here in Canada, and finally begin discussing the thing that politicians fear most but best serves the electorate: recall legislation, at ALL levels of government.
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
I finally realized last night that we need to stop talking electoral reform here in Canada, and finally begin discussing the thing that politicians fear most but best serves the electorate: recall legislation, at ALL levels of government.
I totally agree...
Several things about politics amazes me
1. We allow those fuckin politicians to decide their own salaries and vote themselves 2. The generous pensions/severance/gratuities 3. Not being abl e to turf them from office before their term is up 4. Lack of referendums
I got absolutely no use for these fucking leaches that some call politicians.
All we have to do is look at all the spending scandals that take place, politicians are selfish dicks of the highest order...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Referendums are incredibly expensive. I don't support having a bunch of referendums so the public can vote on every issue at all. It is so divisive and wasteful. Citizens need to vote for the people they trust to make those decisions. I totally agree about how their salaries are determined though. It's ludicrous that they can just give themselves raises they way they do. However, as far as salaries and benefits go for higher level politicians, I do support that they be competitive with the private sector and what these same people could earn if they weren't politicians, and I think a lot of people don't consider this. Otherwise our government would just be filled with the dregs of the public sector. We want to attract really smart, successful, intelligent people to politics, which means we need to compete with private companies for the best people. Of course that's difficult when private companies are using all of their profits to pay massive salaries and bonuses to their top level. I know we're all focused on the negative and the headline grabbing shit that we're eternally feeling scandalized by, but actually a lot of politicians do get around to doing some worthwhile work using specialized knowledge and skills, believe it or not, lol.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I completely agree with both of you that the way their salaries and benefits are self-determined is an absurd situation, though PJ Soul nails it that they need to keep such things at a level that will attract capable candidates to run for office.
Personally I'm a fan of more "direct" democracy (through referendums and the like), and while the costs may be prohibitive right now, I'll suggest technology may (soon?) make such things more feasible (as long as proper safeguards against fraud can be enacted as well). Whether or not the populace are reasonable enough be given such a responsibility remains a point of debate as well (I'm not so sure given the current hyper-partisan political climate).
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
I don't necessarily oppose referendums in theory if a cheap way to do it does come along, but not if they involve civil rights, personal freedoms, or humanitarian issues. Those should never ever ever be put to a vote. Also, they probably shouldn't used for anything reconnected to raising taxes either, just because then the government would never be able to afford anything, lol. No, I think we just need a government we can trust to try and make things best for the most amount of people. In small communities a referendum system might work, but large-scale and this day and age, I think it would be asking for disaster, and society would simply be a constant big angry argument. Fucking everything under the sun would be a controversy.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I completely agree with both of you that the way their salaries and benefits are self-determined is an absurd situation, though PJ Soul nails it that they need to keep such things at a level that will attract capable candidates to run for office.
Personally I'm a fan of more "direct" democracy (through referendums and the like), and while the costs may be prohibitive right now, I'll suggest technology may (soon?) make such things more feasible (as long as proper safeguards against fraud can be enacted as well). Whether or not the populace are reasonable enough be given such a responsibility remains a point of debate as well (I'm not so sure given the current hyper-partisan political climate).
We are more than capable, it's the elitists who don't think we are. As far as salaries go, there high now, when are we going to attract candidates that are qualified...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I completely agree with both of you that the way their salaries and benefits are self-determined is an absurd situation, though PJ Soul nails it that they need to keep such things at a level that will attract capable candidates to run for office.
Personally I'm a fan of more "direct" democracy (through referendums and the like), and while the costs may be prohibitive right now, I'll suggest technology may (soon?) make such things more feasible (as long as proper safeguards against fraud can be enacted as well). Whether or not the populace are reasonable enough be given such a responsibility remains a point of debate as well (I'm not so sure given the current hyper-partisan political climate).
We are more than capable, it's the elitists who don't think we are. As far as salaries go, there high now, when are we going to attract candidates that are qualified...
There are plenty of qualified people in government dude. Obviously.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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Now don't get me wrong I'm not knocking our system, it sure is better than the US system...and just being able to flash my health card at any clinic, hospital or for most any procedure and never having paper work to sign or submit...is SWEET. I would love to see the federal government and provinces put training of healthcare professionals in northern communities so hopefully they stay in northern communities and provide quality medicene where gaps so often exist.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I said that it is SUPPOSEDLY way better than it is in Ontario based on a bunch of things I've read in various places (including stats), and a bunch of things people from Ontario have told me (including here on the boards).
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Our wait lists are long and population is full of retirees that access the system routinely.
Anyway, back to comparing the Canadian system and the American system, I found this tidbit in the Globe and Mail:
"Canada spends more on health care than the average for Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development member countries, but not by much. Average annual health spending in the 34 industrialized countries was $3,590 per capita in 2012, or 9.4 per cent of gross domestic product.
Canada spent $4,602 per capita that year, or 10.9 per cent of GDP, on health-care.....
....Only the American system fared worse. In 2012, the U.S. spent $8,745 per capita or 16.9 per cent of GDP on health care, vastly outstripping other OECD countries."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/jim-prentice-plane-crash-killed-1.3804941
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/kelly-mcparland-trudeau-confounds-provinces-with-conservative-policies-in-liberal-clothing
Meet the new boss, same as the old...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Under Mr. Harper, there were so many people dissatisfied with the government and its approach that they were saying, 'We need an electoral reform so that we can no longer have a government we don't like,'" Trudeau explained.
"However, under the current system, they now have a government they are more satisfied with. And the motivation to want to change the electoral system is less urgent."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wherry-trudeau-electoral-reform-1.3811862
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/19/trudeau-electoral-reform_n_12562314.html
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
It doesn't compare to the circus that the Americans provide us.
And I've always said you can't distuinguish between the cons or libs, there one and the same to me...
And when he doesn't follow through on pot legalization he'll lose the youth vote, which from what I understood was quite better than previous elections and we can only assume that they turned out because they thought he'd legalize pot, electoral reform and keep the oil in the ground...and he only has a 15 seat majority.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
-EV 8/14/93
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-eu-ceta-brussels-friday-1.3815332
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
Several things about politics amazes me
1. We allow those fuckin politicians to decide their own salaries and vote themselves
2. The generous pensions/severance/gratuities
3. Not being abl e to turf them from office before their term is up
4. Lack of referendums
I got absolutely no use for these fucking leaches that some call politicians.
All we have to do is look at all the spending scandals that take place, politicians are selfish dicks of the highest order...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I totally agree about how their salaries are determined though. It's ludicrous that they can just give themselves raises they way they do. However, as far as salaries and benefits go for higher level politicians, I do support that they be competitive with the private sector and what these same people could earn if they weren't politicians, and I think a lot of people don't consider this. Otherwise our government would just be filled with the dregs of the public sector. We want to attract really smart, successful, intelligent people to politics, which means we need to compete with private companies for the best people. Of course that's difficult when private companies are using all of their profits to pay massive salaries and bonuses to their top level. I know we're all focused on the negative and the headline grabbing shit that we're eternally feeling scandalized by, but actually a lot of politicians do get around to doing some worthwhile work using specialized knowledge and skills, believe it or not, lol.
Personally I'm a fan of more "direct" democracy (through referendums and the like), and while the costs may be prohibitive right now, I'll suggest technology may (soon?) make such things more feasible (as long as proper safeguards against fraud can be enacted as well). Whether or not the populace are reasonable enough be given such a responsibility remains a point of debate as well (I'm not so sure given the current hyper-partisan political climate).
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
No, I think we just need a government we can trust to try and make things best for the most amount of people. In small communities a referendum system might work, but large-scale and this day and age, I think it would be asking for disaster, and society would simply be a constant big angry argument. Fucking everything under the sun would be a controversy.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon