Good article today in Bloomberg. The focus of it was the shifting of white college educated women towards Democrats. This is a constituency that was historically very close, but Clinton has opened a 19 point lead with them. This is obviously because of Trump and the "Alt-right" movement that has taken over the GOP. This movement will be the death of the GOP as it has been known since the 80's. The second punchline is this, focused on a center-left alliance: http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-08/without-educated-white-women-republicans-are-doomed
It's possible that the end result of this may be a decidedly Clinton-esque pro-establishment Democratic Party anchored by African-American and Hispanic voters, well-educated suburban whites, and 21st-century business interests. Working-class white males, intellectual conservatives and anti-establishment liberals would find themselves shut out of the political process.
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Good article today in Bloomberg. The focus of it was the shifting of white college educated women towards Democrats. This is a constituency that was historically very close, but Clinton has opened a 19 point lead with them. This is obviously because of Trump and the "Alt-right" movement that has taken over the GOP. This movement will be the death of the GOP as it has been known since the 80's. The second punchline is this, focused on a center-left alliance: http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-08/without-educated-white-women-republicans-are-doomed
It's possible that the end result of this may be a decidedly Clinton-esque pro-establishment Democratic Party anchored by African-American and Hispanic voters, well-educated suburban whites, and 21st-century business interests. Working-class white males, intellectual conservatives and anti-establishment liberals would find themselves shut out of the political process.
Why is this highlighted? Is this the goal- to shut certain groups out of the political process?
Interesting also how this article illustrates how business oriented the Clinton campaign is. Not environmental. Not social justice. Business. But we knew that.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Good article today in Bloomberg. The focus of it was the shifting of white college educated women towards Democrats. This is a constituency that was historically very close, but Clinton has opened a 19 point lead with them. This is obviously because of Trump and the "Alt-right" movement that has taken over the GOP. This movement will be the death of the GOP as it has been known since the 80's. The second punchline is this, focused on a center-left alliance: http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-08/without-educated-white-women-republicans-are-doomed
It's possible that the end result of this may be a decidedly Clinton-esque pro-establishment Democratic Party anchored by African-American and Hispanic voters, well-educated suburban whites, and 21st-century business interests. Working-class white males, intellectual conservatives and anti-establishment liberals would find themselves shut out of the political process.
Why is this highlighted? Is this the goal- to shut certain groups out of the political process?
Interesting also how this article illustrates how business oriented the Clinton campaign is. Not environmental. Not social justice. Business. But we knew that.
It's not the goal, but it's a message that the uber-left should take to heart. The alt-right could be so divisive, that the far left is no longer needed to win elections and govern. Refusing to compromise or recognizing wins (such as Bernie policies being added to the platform) could result in no victories in the future.
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Good article today in Bloomberg. The focus of it was the shifting of white college educated women towards Democrats. This is a constituency that was historically very close, but Clinton has opened a 19 point lead with them. This is obviously because of Trump and the "Alt-right" movement that has taken over the GOP. This movement will be the death of the GOP as it has been known since the 80's. The second punchline is this, focused on a center-left alliance: http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-08/without-educated-white-women-republicans-are-doomed
It's possible that the end result of this may be a decidedly Clinton-esque pro-establishment Democratic Party anchored by African-American and Hispanic voters, well-educated suburban whites, and 21st-century business interests. Working-class white males, intellectual conservatives and anti-establishment liberals would find themselves shut out of the political process.
Why is this highlighted? Is this the goal- to shut certain groups out of the political process?
Interesting also how this article illustrates how business oriented the Clinton campaign is. Not environmental. Not social justice. Business. But we knew that.
It's not the goal, but it's a message that the uber-left should take to heart. The alt-right could be so divisive, that the far left is no longer needed to win elections and govern. Refusing to compromise or recognizing wins (such as Bernie policies being added to the platform) could result in no victories in the future.
uber- ˈo͞obər/ combining form prefix: uber-; prefix: über-
denoting an outstanding or supreme example of a particular kind of person or thing.
Sure, why not!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Russian Oligarch "I give Bill 100 million for speech and your state department okays boat loads of enriched uranium gratis Hillary "Now you finally fukin get it. Wire it ASAP u dumb Cossack fuck."
Russian Oligarch "I give Bill 100 million for speech and your state department okays boat loads of enriched uranium gratis Hillary "Now you finally fukin get it. Wire it ASAP u dumb Cossack fuck."
Your posts would be better if you understood the inherent controls between the different cabinet posts necessary to approve uranium sales. The reality is that the Obama administration misplayed their Russian hand, thinking Medvedev was actually the president and not a puppet. The 'reset' blew up in their face, of that there is no doubt.
that sounds a lot like the federal reserves reasoning for why the american people need to pay a vigg on every dollar the fed (a private company) prints for us(a) sheeple. "you just wouldn't understand" says Ms. Yellen
that sounds a lot like the federal reserves reasoning for why the american people need to pay a vigg on every dollar the fed (a private company) prints for us(a) sheeple. "you just wouldn't understand" says Ms. Yellen
Hillary is reverting to her turtling strategy ... the same one that let Bernie come from out of no where ... only one speech scheduled for the next several months. All her stops are for fund raising or the debates.
Hillary is reverting to her turtling strategy ... the same one that let Bernie come from out of no where ... only one speech scheduled for the next several months. All her stops are for fund raising or the debates.
Hillary is reverting to her turtling strategy ... the same one that let Bernie come from out of no where ... only one speech scheduled for the next several months. All her stops are for fund raising or the debates.
I believe someone mentioned how she (and most in her position) have their health checked on a regular basis.
That "serious health issues" are being raised strikes me as grasping at straws.
Same could be said for Bernie's fervor plus his age and actions.
"Heart attack coming!"
Every fucking candidate has looked and acted strange at times.
Fuck, so have I.
So silly, really, and I just don't see the point of perpetuating something you, or no one else close to her, have any idea about.
Would you want that done to you? I wouldn't,..not without valid cause, and surely not out of random speculation from strangers based on so-called reports.
Goose, gander. Can't we go by that?
the left talked quite a bit about how concering it was if John McCain were elected president at his age, leaving Palin as the Prez. a little bit o' fear mongering has been done on both sides.
Jason P said:Hillary is reverting to her turtling strategy ... the same one that let Bernie come from out of no where ... only one speech scheduled for the next several months. All her stops are for fund raising or the debates.
I believe someone mentioned how she (and most in her position) have their health checked on a regular basis.
That "serious health issues" are being raised strikes me as grasping at straws.
Same could be said for Bernie's fervor plus his age and actions.
"Heart attack coming!"
Every fucking candidate has looked and acted strange at times.
Fuck, so have I.
So silly, really, and I just don't see the point of perpetuating something you, or no one else close to her, have any idea about.
Would you want that done to you? I wouldn't,..not without valid cause, and surely not out of random speculation from strangers based on so-called reports.
Goose, gander. Can't we go by that?
the left talked quite a bit about how concering it was if John McCain were elected president at his age, leaving Palin as the Prez. a little bit o' fear mongering has been done on both sides.
I believe someone mentioned how she (and most in her position) have their health checked on a regular basis.
That "serious health issues" are being raised strikes me as grasping at straws.
Same could be said for Bernie's fervor plus his age and actions.
"Heart attack coming!"
Every fucking candidate has looked and acted strange at times.
Fuck, so have I.
So silly, really, and I just don't see the point of perpetuating something you, or no one else close to her, have any idea about.
Would you want that done to you? I wouldn't,..not without valid cause, and surely not out of random speculation from strangers based on so-called reports.
Goose, gander. Can't we go by that?
the left talked quite a bit about how concering it was if John McCain were elected president at his age, leaving Palin as the Prez. a little bit o' fear mongering has been done on both sides.
Absolutely - double standards too.
(as always!)
Well I wouldn't go that far with this particular example. I don't think it was really McCain's age that was the driving factor. It was the possibility of Palin becoming president for ANY reason, whether McCain died of a heart attack, cancer, an assassination, or a car wreck. It's just that when someone is in their 70s (or at Hillary's age, for that matter), something like a heart attack or an illness that kills them is more likely that anything else. But yeah, in the end, that wasn't anti-McCain talk. That was anti-Palin talk. And come on, we can at least all agree that Sarah Palin wasn't fit for the position.
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I believe someone mentioned how she (and most in her position) have their health checked on a regular basis.
That "serious health issues" are being raised strikes me as grasping at straws.
Same could be said for Bernie's fervor plus his age and actions.
"Heart attack coming!"
Every fucking candidate has looked and acted strange at times.
Fuck, so have I.
So silly, really, and I just don't see the point of perpetuating something you, or no one else close to her, have any idea about.
Would you want that done to you? I wouldn't,..not without valid cause, and surely not out of random speculation from strangers based on so-called reports.
Goose, gander. Can't we go by that?
the left talked quite a bit about how concering it was if John McCain were elected president at his age, leaving Palin as the Prez. a little bit o' fear mongering has been done on both sides.
Absolutely - double standards too.
(as always!)
Well I wouldn't go that far with this particular example. I don't think it was really McCain's age that was the driving factor. It was the possibility of Palin becoming president for ANY reason, whether McCain died of a heart attack, cancer, an assassination, or a car wreck. It's just that when someone is in their 70s (or at Hillary's age, for that matter), something like a heart attack or an illness that kills them is more likely that anything else. But yeah, in the end, that wasn't anti-McCain talk. That was anti-Palin talk. And come on, we can at least all agree that Sarah Palin wasn't fit for the position.
Not a Palin cheerleader.
But as to McCain - I don't know...I recall hearing "old white man" fairly often during that time. Seems like the same tactics are used now (not necessarily the specific descriptors, but the fact that they're employed as a so-called criticism to begin with). Sort of like if you didn't support Obama, you were a racist.
I believe someone mentioned how she (and most in her position) have their health checked on a regular basis.
That "serious health issues" are being raised strikes me as grasping at straws.
Same could be said for Bernie's fervor plus his age and actions.
"Heart attack coming!"
Every fucking candidate has looked and acted strange at times.
Fuck, so have I.
So silly, really, and I just don't see the point of perpetuating something you, or no one else close to her, have any idea about.
Would you want that done to you? I wouldn't,..not without valid cause, and surely not out of random speculation from strangers based on so-called reports.
Goose, gander. Can't we go by that?
the left talked quite a bit about how concering it was if John McCain were elected president at his age, leaving Palin as the Prez. a little bit o' fear mongering has been done on both sides.
Absolutely - double standards too.
(as always!)
Well I wouldn't go that far with this particular example. I don't think it was really McCain's age that was the driving factor. It was the possibility of Palin becoming president for ANY reason, whether McCain died of a heart attack, cancer, an assassination, or a car wreck. It's just that when someone is in their 70s (or at Hillary's age, for that matter), something like a heart attack or an illness that kills them is more likely that anything else. But yeah, in the end, that wasn't anti-McCain talk. That was anti-Palin talk. And come on, we can at least all agree that Sarah Palin wasn't fit for the position.
Not a Palin cheerleader.
But as to McCain - I don't know...I recall hearing "old white man" fairly often during that time. Seems like the same tactics are used now (not necessarily the specific descriptors, but the fact that they're employed as a so-called criticism to begin with). Sort of like if you didn't support Obama, you were a racist.
There is some irony to those statements for sure, and as a 40 year old white guy, it annoys me. There was a story that just came out of the Green Party convention, where the first delegate, who is white, was booed and called "the Great White Hope, huh?" by someone else. I do sometimes worry that we are oversteering in the quest to be so racially sensitive, that we become intolerant again.
see 3:30: "and with all the these investigations, why would I ever want to use Email?" her favorite Hollywood story tellers couldn't even make this shit up. lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QApICxqiZcw
I believe someone mentioned how she (and most in her position) have their health checked on a regular basis.
That "serious health issues" are being raised strikes me as grasping at straws.
Same could be said for Bernie's fervor plus his age and actions.
"Heart attack coming!"
Every fucking candidate has looked and acted strange at times.
Fuck, so have I.
So silly, really, and I just don't see the point of perpetuating something you, or no one else close to her, have any idea about.
Would you want that done to you? I wouldn't,..not without valid cause, and surely not out of random speculation from strangers based on so-called reports.
Goose, gander. Can't we go by that?
the left talked quite a bit about how concering it was if John McCain were elected president at his age, leaving Palin as the Prez. a little bit o' fear mongering has been done on both sides.
Absolutely - double standards too.
(as always!)
Well I wouldn't go that far with this particular example. I don't think it was really McCain's age that was the driving factor. It was the possibility of Palin becoming president for ANY reason, whether McCain died of a heart attack, cancer, an assassination, or a car wreck. It's just that when someone is in their 70s (or at Hillary's age, for that matter), something like a heart attack or an illness that kills them is more likely that anything else. But yeah, in the end, that wasn't anti-McCain talk. That was anti-Palin talk. And come on, we can at least all agree that Sarah Palin wasn't fit for the position.
Not a Palin cheerleader.
But as to McCain - I don't know...I recall hearing "old white man" fairly often during that time. Seems like the same tactics are used now (not necessarily the specific descriptors, but the fact that they're employed as a so-called criticism to begin with). Sort of like if you didn't support Obama, you were a racist.
I agree, I don't like the ageism at all. I do think the McCain stuff was 100% fueled by Palin rather than actually by real concern about McCain's age, but it sure was expressed that way, plus the very young and fit Obama was there as a stark comparison. At least that makes a bit of sense. But now, it's all just so silly and illogical. People were making a big deal about Bernie's age and he's only 4 years older than Trump, and now people are saying Hillary has Parkinson's or will drop dead of a stroke (you can tell just by looking at her, didn't you know??), and she's the youngest out of the bunch. It's all completely illogical on the part of the Trump supporters saying this stuff in an attempt to... what? I guess convince people not to vote for her?? To vote Trump instead?. Hey you guys, Trump is 70 years old and a complete spaz who turns red every time he gets excited. Don't throw stones in glass houses, you know?
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All Hillary has to do is coast. Trump doesn't want the job and is doing everything possible to dump his chances. It's a laugh.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
All Hillary has to do is coast. Trump doesn't want the job and is doing everything possible to dump his chances. It's a laugh.
Yeah, every day I feel a little more like Trump is sabotaging himself because he doesn't want it and for some reason let it all go way to far, kind of like little kids sometimes do when they're caught in a lie. I used to pretty much be joking when I floated this theory, but now.... I think I'm mostly not joking.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
All Hillary has to do is coast. Trump doesn't want the job and is doing everything possible to dump his chances. It's a laugh.
Yeah, every day I feel a little more like Trump is sabotaging himself because he doesn't want it and for some reason let it all go way to far, kind of like little kids sometimes do when they're caught in a lie. I used to pretty much be joking when I floated this theory, but now.... I think I'm mostly not joking.
I've discounted this theory up until now. There really isn't any other explanation for someone running such a horrible campaign. It just seems like his ego is too big to run his name through the mud.
Unless he comes out after the election and claims victory for destroying the GOP.
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All Hillary has to do is coast. Trump doesn't want the job and is doing everything possible to dump his chances. It's a laugh.
Yeah, every day I feel a little more like Trump is sabotaging himself because he doesn't want it and for some reason let it all go way to far, kind of like little kids sometimes do when they're caught in a lie. I used to pretty much be joking when I floated this theory, but now.... I think I'm mostly not joking.
I've discounted this theory up until now. There really isn't any other explanation for someone running such a horrible campaign. It just seems like his ego is too big to run his name through the mud.
Unless he comes out after the election and claims victory for destroying the GOP.
Yet he and Clinton are the both polling extremely high in the unfavorable department. The two worst candidates of our time. Amazing isn't it.
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Would be nice though if posts like the above weren't then laughed off when met with genuine response.
She has a blood clot!
I think everybody is acting weird, because the balance of AMT has been thrown off.... .by Pjfan's absence. That's my theory.
Questioning, responding.
Who hasn't done that here? That's what this place is about.
Damn, comments are viewed this way now. Only when not in line or in general?
I don't think I came off as disrespectful. Tried to be as honest as you and others here.
Fine indeed. We can both keep on keeping on.
It's possible that the end result of this may be a decidedly Clinton-esque pro-establishment Democratic Party anchored by African-American and Hispanic voters, well-educated suburban whites, and 21st-century business interests. Working-class white males, intellectual conservatives and anti-establishment liberals would find themselves shut out of the political process.
Interesting also how this article illustrates how business oriented the Clinton campaign is. Not environmental. Not social justice. Business. But we knew that.
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combining form
prefix: uber-; prefix: über-
denoting an outstanding or supreme example of a particular kind of person or thing.
Sure, why not!
Hillary "Now you finally fukin get it. Wire it ASAP u dumb Cossack fuck."
"you just wouldn't understand" says Ms. Yellen
https://hillaryspeeches.com/scheduled-events/
www.headstonesband.com
http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Hillary-Clinton-to-scoop-up-campaign-cash-in-9131238.php
Hill was down the street from that estate less than a year ago cleaning up at $30,000 a plate to dine at HEDGE FUND MANAGER Cliff "the barbarian" Robbins' palace. Real 1980's type wall street scum.
http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Hillary-Clinton-plots-course-for-Greenwich-6478774.php
"We were broke!" lmao
Jason P said:Hillary is reverting to her turtling strategy ... the same one that let Bernie come from out of no where ... only one speech scheduled for the next several months. All her stops are for fund raising or the debates.
https://hillaryspeeches.com/scheduled-events/
(as always!)
But as to McCain - I don't know...I recall hearing "old white man" fairly often during that time. Seems like the same tactics are used now (not necessarily the specific descriptors, but the fact that they're employed as a so-called criticism to begin with). Sort of like if you didn't support Obama, you were a racist.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-green-party-is-a-joke_us_57a8c341e4b0aae2a5a0a464
Unless he comes out after the election and claims victory for destroying the GOP.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana