Hillary won more votes for President

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    edited July 2016
    What does a crack down on the borders look like? The relatively free flow of goods and people back and forth across the US/Canada border is VERY important to both countries' economies.
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Free said:

    Would Donald Trump Quit if He Wins the Election? He Doesn’t Rule It Out

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/08/us/politics/donald-trump-president.html

    ... And that was just verifies what I've been saying the whole time. I am not worried about Trump winning.

    Posting thiS again.
  • mattsl1983
    mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    I don't have an answer on the best way to secure the borders. And let's be honest, we are talking more of the southern border than the northern one. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but I'd imagine a whole lot more illegals (yes I said that, I'm ivervthe PC police) come in from the south than the north. That's not a knock against Mexico, but there are something like 20 countries south of Mexico connected by land. A lot more of a possibility for people to come up through than Canada.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    edited July 2016
    mattsl1983 said:

    I don't have an answer on the best way to secure the borders. And let's be honest, we are talking more of the southern border than the northern one. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but I'd imagine a whole lot more illegals (yes I said that, I'm ivervthe PC police) come in from the south than the north. That's not a knock against Mexico, but there are something like 20 countries south of Mexico connected by land. A lot more of a possibility for people to come up through than Canada.

    For sure way more come from Mexico, because Mexico is poor and crime ridden and generally not the greatest place to live for a whole lot of people. Canada is much more pleasant, wealthy, and safe (aside from the weather I guess, for most. No me, I don't like the heat, lol). People want to go in, not out. But Trump has talked about how Muslim terrorists flood in over the Canadian border, so I would be concerned that he would try locking up the northern border in his hysteria, and in doing so would badly harm a whole lot of people economically. I don't feel like Trump in the White House would serve to maintain what is arguably one of the best relationships between two countries in the world.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mattsl1983 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    I'm very informed on both. I'm surprised no one has brought up a single policy that they think is right or the direction they want to see America go in. This election will be won by demonizing and hatred for the other candidate. You can go tit for tat on how screwed up each one is, if prefer to hear some policies personally.

    Okay here we go:

    1. I support maintaining our membership in NATO. Trump does not.
    2. I support keeping the Korea peninsula nuclear free. Trump does not.
    3. I support the Iran deal. Trump does not
    4. I support an increase in min wage
    5. I support continuing Health Care Act
    6. I support TPP (unfortunately neither does, which I think is a mistake)
    7. I support restricting sales of assault weapons, speed bullets and the like
    8. I support continuing to try to isolate Russia as it tries to increase its spheres of influence, particularly in Ukraine. Trump does not. He admires Putin.

    Go ahead and bring up a Trump policy. I'm betting 95% of them I will be against.
    Why would I want to bring up a trump policy? Take the war helmet off and don't look for confrontation. I just want to hear real reasons why I should vote for Hilary.
    because the Train just wants Trump out and they are willing to bet on a criminal to maintain a democratic system no matter what reports are given about her, if you want real answers you will not find them here this is 95% democratic forum most folks here blindly follow any democrat...but I have to admit that reading their reply's when confronted with damaging stories about their candidate is priceless ! if you want some real advice ? when you vote forget about parties vote for the person who best fits your beliefs and always trust your gut feelings.

    Godfather.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Godfather. said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    I'm very informed on both. I'm surprised no one has brought up a single policy that they think is right or the direction they want to see America go in. This election will be won by demonizing and hatred for the other candidate. You can go tit for tat on how screwed up each one is, if prefer to hear some policies personally.

    Okay here we go:

    1. I support maintaining our membership in NATO. Trump does not.
    2. I support keeping the Korea peninsula nuclear free. Trump does not.
    3. I support the Iran deal. Trump does not
    4. I support an increase in min wage
    5. I support continuing Health Care Act
    6. I support TPP (unfortunately neither does, which I think is a mistake)
    7. I support restricting sales of assault weapons, speed bullets and the like
    8. I support continuing to try to isolate Russia as it tries to increase its spheres of influence, particularly in Ukraine. Trump does not. He admires Putin.

    Go ahead and bring up a Trump policy. I'm betting 95% of them I will be against.
    Why would I want to bring up a trump policy? Take the war helmet off and don't look for confrontation. I just want to hear real reasons why I should vote for Hilary.
    because the Train just wants Trump out and they are willing to bet on a criminal to maintain a democratic system no matter what reports are given about her, if you want real answers you will not find them here this is 95% democratic forum most folks here blindly follow any democrat...but I have to admit that reading their reply's when confronted with damaging stories about their candidate is priceless ! if you want some real advice ? when you vote forget about parties vote for the person who best fits your beliefs and always trust your gut feelings.

    Godfather.

    You are absolutely right. HRC is the candidate that best represents my beliefs:
    Pathway to citizenship
    Health care
    JPOA
    Nuclear free Korean Peninsula
    Stay in NATO
    Right to choose
    Ban assault weapons, background checks, smart weapon technology

    The list goes on and on and on....

    All the personality issues are just noise for me.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,421
    edited July 2016
    Godfather. said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    I'm very informed on both. I'm surprised no one has brought up a single policy that they think is right or the direction they want to see America go in. This election will be won by demonizing and hatred for the other candidate. You can go tit for tat on how screwed up each one is, if prefer to hear some policies personally.

    Okay here we go:

    1. I support maintaining our membership in NATO. Trump does not.
    2. I support keeping the Korea peninsula nuclear free. Trump does not.
    3. I support the Iran deal. Trump does not
    4. I support an increase in min wage
    5. I support continuing Health Care Act
    6. I support TPP (unfortunately neither does, which I think is a mistake)
    7. I support restricting sales of assault weapons, speed bullets and the like
    8. I support continuing to try to isolate Russia as it tries to increase its spheres of influence, particularly in Ukraine. Trump does not. He admires Putin.

    Go ahead and bring up a Trump policy. I'm betting 95% of them I will be against.
    Why would I want to bring up a trump policy? Take the war helmet off and don't look for confrontation. I just want to hear real reasons why I should vote for Hilary.
    because the Train just wants Trump out and they are willing to bet on a criminal to maintain a democratic system no matter what reports are given about her, if you want real answers you will not find them here this is 95% democratic forum most folks here blindly follow any democrat...but I have to admit that reading their reply's when confronted with damaging stories about their candidate is priceless ! if you want some real advice ? when you vote forget about parties vote for the person who best fits your beliefs and always trust your gut feelings.

    Godfather.

    You and others keep saying she is a criminal. Yet there has never been a conviction or even an indictment. You and others have NO proof, NO evidence, just hearsay and urban myth.
    Yet, for donald drumpf, there is verifiable and reliable evidence (lawsuits, bankruptcies, audio/video) that he is not fit to be president.

    Do I think that Hillary Clinton is a good choice? NO
    Do I think that donald drumpf is a viable option? OH HELL NO!!

    Namaste'
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    Free said:

    Would Donald Trump Quit if He Wins the Election? He Doesn’t Rule It Out

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/08/us/politics/donald-trump-president.html

    ... And that was just verifies what I've been saying the whole time. I am not worried about Trump winning.

    Oh my goodness, I just predicted this exact thing while talking to a friend of mine, and now it's in the NY Times? Wow.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited July 2016
    what dreams said:

    Free said:

    Would Donald Trump Quit if He Wins the Election? He Doesn’t Rule It Out

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/08/us/politics/donald-trump-president.html

    ... And that was just verifies what I've been saying the whole time. I am not worried about Trump winning.

    Oh my goodness, I just predicted this exact thing while talking to a friend of mine, and now it's in the NY Times? Wow.
    Don't tell me that you think there are actual reporters on this forum phishing for info.
    That's preposterous.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    Godfather. said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    I'm very informed on both. I'm surprised no one has brought up a single policy that they think is right or the direction they want to see America go in. This election will be won by demonizing and hatred for the other candidate. You can go tit for tat on how screwed up each one is, if prefer to hear some policies personally.

    Okay here we go:

    1. I support maintaining our membership in NATO. Trump does not.
    2. I support keeping the Korea peninsula nuclear free. Trump does not.
    3. I support the Iran deal. Trump does not
    4. I support an increase in min wage
    5. I support continuing Health Care Act
    6. I support TPP (unfortunately neither does, which I think is a mistake)
    7. I support restricting sales of assault weapons, speed bullets and the like
    8. I support continuing to try to isolate Russia as it tries to increase its spheres of influence, particularly in Ukraine. Trump does not. He admires Putin.

    Go ahead and bring up a Trump policy. I'm betting 95% of them I will be against.
    Why would I want to bring up a trump policy? Take the war helmet off and don't look for confrontation. I just want to hear real reasons why I should vote for Hilary.
    because the Train just wants Trump out and they are willing to bet on a criminal to maintain a democratic system no matter what reports are given about her, if you want real answers you will not find them here this is 95% democratic forum most folks here blindly follow any democrat...but I have to admit that reading their reply's when confronted with damaging stories about their candidate is priceless ! if you want some real advice ? when you vote forget about parties vote for the person who best fits your beliefs and always trust your gut feelings.

    Godfather.

    Criminal? What crime was she convicted of?
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Gern Blansten said:

    Godfather. said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    I'm very informed on both. I'm surprised no one has brought up a single policy that they think is right or the direction they want to see America go in. This election will be won by demonizing and hatred for the other candidate. You can go tit for tat on how screwed up each one is, if prefer to hear some policies personally.

    Okay here we go:

    1. I support maintaining our membership in NATO. Trump does not.
    2. I support keeping the Korea peninsula nuclear free. Trump does not.
    3. I support the Iran deal. Trump does not
    4. I support an increase in min wage
    5. I support continuing Health Care Act
    6. I support TPP (unfortunately neither does, which I think is a mistake)
    7. I support restricting sales of assault weapons, speed bullets and the like
    8. I support continuing to try to isolate Russia as it tries to increase its spheres of influence, particularly in Ukraine. Trump does not. He admires Putin.

    Go ahead and bring up a Trump policy. I'm betting 95% of them I will be against.
    Why would I want to bring up a trump policy? Take the war helmet off and don't look for confrontation. I just want to hear real reasons why I should vote for Hilary.
    because the Train just wants Trump out and they are willing to bet on a criminal to maintain a democratic system no matter what reports are given about her, if you want real answers you will not find them here this is 95% democratic forum most folks here blindly follow any democrat...but I have to admit that reading their reply's when confronted with damaging stories about their candidate is priceless ! if you want some real advice ? when you vote forget about parties vote for the person who best fits your beliefs and always trust your gut feelings.

    Godfather.

    Criminal? What crime was she convicted of?</blockquote

    wasn't she fired for lying during the Watergate fiasco ?
    what was O.J or Zimmerman convicted of after the killings they were allegedly involved in ?
    and besides give it time, people like here become more brazen with every successful crime they commit until they finally they get caught.

    Godfather.

  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    No, she wasn't fired. It's just another smear...and myth. I'm giving it time but it's been decades and I'm thinking someone is crying wolf...over and over and over and over.
    http://urbanmyths.com/urban-myths/politics/fact-or-fiction-was-hillary-clinton-fired-from-watergate-investigation/

    I like this one better. :)
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/democratic-convention-women-history_us_5772eaeae4b0352fed3e4463?section=

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    what dreams said:

    Free said:

    Would Donald Trump Quit if He Wins the Election? He Doesn’t Rule It Out

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/08/us/politics/donald-trump-president.html

    ... And that was just verifies what I've been saying the whole time. I am not worried about Trump winning.

    Oh my goodness, I just predicted this exact thing while talking to a friend of mine, and now it's in the NY Times? Wow.
    Don't tell me that you think there are actual reporters on this forum phishing for info.
    That's preposterous.
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    I simply read his post as "oh wow, I was just saying this the other day to a friend and now the NY Times is saying the same thing. So it's not just me." I did not for a second think he meant that the theory originated on these boards (especially since he didn't any he posted anything about it on these boards).
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Bentleyspop said:

    Here are drumpfs policy proposals...

    1. Crooked Hillary
    2. Lying Hillary
    3. Rigged for Hillary
    4. Pocahontas
    5. Repeat 1-4

    I expected something a little more.......educated from you.

    Godfather.

  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Bentleyspop said:

    Here are drumpfs policy proposals...

    1. Crooked Hillary
    2. Lying Hillary
    3. Rigged for Hillary
    4. Pocahontas
    5. Repeat 1-4

    :lol:
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Again credit where credit is due

    https://theintercept.com/2016/07/12/george-w-bush-v-clinton-led-democrats-on-palestinians-equality-and-the-israeli-occupation/
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    edited July 2016
    Hillary is tied with a clown going into the conventions.

    cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-going-into-conventions-cbsnyt-poll/
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Jason P said:

    Hillary is tied with a clown going into the conventions.

    cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-going-into-conventions-cbsnyt-poll/

    Not terribly concerned. Just national polls, the email thing hit, and before Bernie endorsed.

    Trump has a ceiling



  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Jason P said:

    Hillary is tied with a clown going into the conventions.

    cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-going-into-conventions-cbsnyt-poll/

    Remember, polls are created to sway voter behavior and for pure drama. This is a pure drama move.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    edited July 2016
    Free said:

    Jason P said:

    Hillary is tied with a clown going into the conventions.

    cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-going-into-conventions-cbsnyt-poll/

    Remember, polls are created to sway voter behavior and for pure drama. This is a pure drama move.
    Still, not a good sign. This is like people giving the Golden State Warriors and the Philly 76ers the same odds to win next year's NBA title.

    Edit:

    More like the Milwaukee Bucks and Philly 76ers ...
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