Hillary won more votes for President

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    In an election year where people want change from a "get out the vote" perspective that is a down right dangerous list of speakers.
    Yes... alas both parties can't have intellectual powerhouses like Trump, Bobby Knight and Tim Tebow. The Democrats will have to settle...
    Yeah, I mean, Eddie Vedder spent part of New Years Eve with Obama. What was he thinking?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    In an election year where people want change from a "get out the vote" perspective that is a down right dangerous list of speakers.
    Yes... alas both parties can't have intellectual powerhouses like Trump, Bobby Knight and Tim Tebow. The Democrats will have to settle...
    Yeah, I mean, Eddie Vedder spent part of New Years Eve with Obama. What was he thinking?
    Oh yeah? In Hawaii I'm guessing. That would have been quite interesting. It also brings up a good point. I wonder if EV, Bruce, JZ and other artists will get involved in this campaign. I would imagine so.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
    It's a valid point to be making for sure. BS, you have a habit of doing that. I'm sure you consider yourself very insightful and everything, but sometimes you really make too many assumptions about how people you don't know think and feel.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    In an election year where people want change from a "get out the vote" perspective that is a down right dangerous list of speakers.
    Yes... alas both parties can't have intellectual powerhouses like Trump, Bobby Knight and Tim Tebow. The Democrats will have to settle...
    It might be a nice list of elitist résumés but there is absolutely nobody on that list with any intellectual heft. It's "yes we can" being replaced with "I'm with her". That's the democratic convention in a nutshell.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
    And I look beautiful.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    edited July 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    In an election year where people want change from a "get out the vote" perspective that is a down right dangerous list of speakers.
    Yes... alas both parties can't have intellectual powerhouses like Trump, Bobby Knight and Tim Tebow. The Democrats will have to settle...
    Yeah, I mean, Eddie Vedder spent part of New Years Eve with Obama. What was he thinking?
    Oh yeah? In Hawaii I'm guessing. That would have been quite interesting. It also brings up a good point. I wonder if EV, Bruce, JZ and other artists will get involved in this campaign. I would imagine so.
    Obama briefly dropped by Eddie's house in the middle of the day once kind of as a neighborly courtesy call, since they vacation in the same neighborhood. That is not "spending part of New Years Eve with Obama".
    Anyway, I suspect that Eddie will support Hillary. He supported Obama wholeheartedly, so I see no reason why he wouldn't give his support to Hillary on some level. I think the days when he really gets loud about it are over though. I don't think he is in love with where he lays his political support now. I think he is just a moderate now. He is making the safer choices when he feels he needs to. I think he learned his own lessons after supporting Nader the way he did. I think he will now specifically try not to support splitting the left. He's said that that was ultimately a mistake back when GW won again. Obviously I agree with that, given who the current alternative winner is.
    (Not that any of this matters, lol. Just saying, since it was brought up).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    In an election year where people want change from a "get out the vote" perspective that is a down right dangerous list of speakers.
    Yes... alas both parties can't have intellectual powerhouses like Trump, Bobby Knight and Tim Tebow. The Democrats will have to settle...
    It might be a nice list of elitist résumés but there is absolutely nobody on that list with any intellectual heft. It's "yes we can" being replaced with "I'm with her". That's the democratic convention in a nutshell.
    Obama, Biden and Bill Clinton have no heft. You must be kidding yourself. You may not agree with them, but they are not lightweights.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
    It's a valid point to be making for sure. BS, you have a habit of doing that. I'm sure you consider yourself very insightful and everything, but sometimes you really make too many assumptions about how people you don't know think and feel.
    HA. You are all amazing. I don't see how Jearlpam's post can be interpreted in any other way. I get it though...must keep pounding away at the conservatives on here.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
    It's a valid point to be making for sure. BS, you have a habit of doing that. I'm sure you consider yourself very insightful and everything, but sometimes you really make too many assumptions about how people you don't know think and feel.
    HA. You are all amazing. I don't see how Jearlpam's post can be interpreted in an:cy other way. I get it though...must keep pounding away at the conservatives on here.
    :confused: Not "pounding away" at all. Has nothing to do with politics. It was an honest comment on my part. You do tend to do that.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
    It's a valid point to be making for sure. BS, you have a habit of doing that. I'm sure you consider yourself very insightful and everything, but sometimes you really make too many assumptions about how people you don't know think and feel.
    HA. You are all amazing. I don't see how Jearlpam's post can be interpreted in any other way. I get it though...must keep pounding away at the conservatives on here.
    Well we need foils on the board. Remember you are the long relief, bringing the chin music. We can't just be an echo chamber. This isn't Breitbart or a Bernie Sanders reddit page.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
    It's a valid point to be making for sure. BS, you have a habit of doing that. I'm sure you consider yourself very insightful and everything, but sometimes you really make too many assumptions about how people you don't know think and feel.
    HA. You are all amazing. I don't see how Jearlpam's post can be interpreted in an:cy other way. I get it though...must keep pounding away at the conservatives on here.
    :confused: Not "pounding away" at all. Has nothing to do with politics. It was an honest comment on my part. You do tend to do that.
    If you were honest you would have rebutted Jearlpam's initial insinuation that anybody on here said (and I paraphrase) "Since Nate SIlver was wrong once then he will always be wrong". That was not said.
  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    granola bars
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,673
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
    It's a valid point to be making for sure. BS, you have a habit of doing that. I'm sure you consider yourself very insightful and everything, but sometimes you really make too many assumptions about how people you don't know think and feel.
    HA. You are all amazing. I don't see how Jearlpam's post can be interpreted in an:cy other way. I get it though...must keep pounding away at the conservatives on here.
    :confused: Not "pounding away" at all. Has nothing to do with politics. It was an honest comment on my part. You do tend to do that.
    If you were honest you would have rebutted Jearlpam's initial insinuation that anybody on here said (and I paraphrase) "Since Nate SIlver was wrong once then he will always be wrong". That was not said.
    Right, I did not choose to comment on that. I didn't feel any desire to. Still don't.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
    It's a valid point to be making for sure. BS, you have a habit of doing that. I'm sure you consider yourself very insightful and everything, but sometimes you really make too many assumptions about how people you don't know think and feel.
    HA. You are all amazing. I don't see how Jearlpam's post can be interpreted in any other way. I get it though...must keep pounding away at the conservatives on here.
    Well we need foils on the board. Remember you are the long relief, bringing the chin music. We can't just be an echo chamber. This isn't Breitbart or a Bernie Sanders reddit page.
    I remember and based on this I want to be known from here on out as Foil Alexander.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
    It's a valid point to be making for sure. BS, you have a habit of doing that. I'm sure you consider yourself very insightful and everything, but sometimes you really make too many assumptions about how people you don't know think and feel.
    HA. You are all amazing. I don't see how Jearlpam's post can be interpreted in any other way. I get it though...must keep pounding away at the conservatives on here.
    Well we need foils on the board. Remember you are the long relief, bringing the chin music. We can't just be an echo chamber. This isn't Breitbart or a Bernie Sanders reddit page.
    I remember and based on this I want to be known from here on out as Foil Alexander.
    So when I say GFY,FA you'll know what I mean. Just kidding you. Seriously though, if there wasn't a conservative or two active here, I'd probably leave. What fun is it hanging out with people you agree with?
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
    It's a valid point to be making for sure. BS, you have a habit of doing that. I'm sure you consider yourself very insightful and everything, but sometimes you really make too many assumptions about how people you don't know think and feel.
    HA. You are all amazing. I don't see how Jearlpam's post can be interpreted in any other way. I get it though...must keep pounding away at the conservatives on here.
    Well we need foils on the board. Remember you are the long relief, bringing the chin music. We can't just be an echo chamber. This isn't Breitbart or a Bernie Sanders reddit page.
    I remember and based on this I want to be known from here on out as Foil Alexander.
    So when I say GFY,FA you'll know what I mean. Just kidding you. Seriously though, if there wasn't a conservative or two active here, I'd probably leave. What fun is it hanging out with people you agree with?
    100%. As an aside...being from Toronto we had a massive rivalry with the Detroit Tigers in the 1980's. My dad would take us to old exhibition stadium to see the Jay's play the Tigers in late September. In 87 the jays were up about 3 games over the Tigers with maybe only 8 remaining and had an epic collapse to blow the division. At the time former Jay Doyle Alexander was pitching for the Tigers and we would bring tinfoil to the park and chant "Foil Doyle'. It never worked. He went like 8-0 down the stretch to help Detroit win the division. Massive sore spot in my life.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

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    Kat said:

    Nate Silver out-forecast almost everyone last time. I'm keeping an eye on him and his analysis again this time. Secretary Clinton took a hit but I think she'll rebound because she has the policies.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Nate Silver was already wrong on Trump once...

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/
    Yeah he ignored his model.
    This is what I love - a guy is wrong once in a while, so then the obvious logic is he'll be wrong every step of the way going forward.

    We live in an insane world.
    That isn't the logic being presented. The logic is that even Nate Silver is not infallible. By thinking he's infallible you are tempting fate instead.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    Forecast has been adjusted and can be adjusted in either direction as the days and months move on. It is early.
    Who said he's infallible? He still has the most reasonable, comprehensive forecasts out there.
    I don't disagree. You are missing the point of my response. You have claimed that somebody is using the logic "that since he was wrong a couple of times then he must be wrong from here on out." Nobody has made that statement. You invented and projected that attitude onto others just to feel superior. You make yourself the sane one in the "insane world".
    Did you just invent the poster's motivation for the statement?
    Ahhhh...I see you are taking advantage of the Hillary/Comey defence
    Negative... I'm just giving you a mirror to look into...
    It's a valid point to be making for sure. BS, you have a habit of doing that. I'm sure you consider yourself very insightful and everything, but sometimes you really make too many assumptions about how people you don't know think and feel.
    HA. You are all amazing. I don't see how Jearlpam's post can be interpreted in any other way. I get it though...must keep pounding away at the conservatives on here.
    Well we need foils on the board. Remember you are the long relief, bringing the chin music. We can't just be an echo chamber. This isn't Breitbart or a Bernie Sanders reddit page.
    I remember and based on this I want to be known from here on out as Foil Alexander.
    So when I say GFY,FA you'll know what I mean. Just kidding you. Seriously though, if there wasn't a conservative or two active here, I'd probably leave. What fun is it hanging out with people you agree with?
    100%. As an aside...being from Toronto we had a massive rivalry with the Detroit Tigers in the 1980's. My dad would take us to old exhibition stadium to see the Jay's play the Tigers in late September. In 87 the jays were up about 3 games over the Tigers with maybe only 8 remaining and had an epic collapse to blow the division. At the time former Jay Doyle Alexander was pitching for the Tigers and we would bring tinfoil to the park and chant "Foil Doyle'. It never worked. He went like 8-0 down the stretch to help Detroit win the division. Massive sore spot in my life.
    That's good background. I remember Doyle Alexander pretty clearly. I don't remember the "Foil" nickname, but now it makes sense. So GFY.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

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    BS44325 said:

    In an election year where people want change from a "get out the vote" perspective that is a down right dangerous list of speakers.
    Yes... alas both parties can't have intellectual powerhouses like Trump, Bobby Knight and Tim Tebow. The Democrats will have to settle...
    Yeah, I mean, Eddie Vedder spent part of New Years Eve with Obama. What was he thinking?
    Oh yeah? In Hawaii I'm guessing. That would have been quite interesting. It also brings up a good point. I wonder if EV, Bruce, JZ and other artists will get involved in this campaign. I would imagine so.
    Obama briefly dropped by Eddie's house in the middle of the day once kind of as a neighborly courtesy call, since they vacation in the same neighborhood. That is not "spending part of New Years Eve with Obama".
    Anyway, I suspect that Eddie will support Hillary. He supported Obama wholeheartedly, so I see no reason why he wouldn't give his support to Hillary on some level. I think the days when he really gets loud about it are over though. I don't think he is in love with where he lays his political support now. I think he is just a moderate now. He is making the safer choices when he feels he needs to. I think he learned his own lessons after supporting Nader the way he did. I think he will now specifically try not to support splitting the left. He's said that that was ultimately a mistake back when GW won again. Obviously I agree with that, given who the current alternative winner is.
    (Not that any of this matters, lol. Just saying, since it was brought up).
    Except he did it on Dec 31st, so that would mean he spent part of the New Year’s Eve. Jeesh
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
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    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    In an election year where people want change from a "get out the vote" perspective that is a down right dangerous list of speakers.
    Yes... alas both parties can't have intellectual powerhouses like Trump, Bobby Knight and Tim Tebow. The Democrats will have to settle...
    It might be a nice list of elitist résumés but there is absolutely nobody on that list with any intellectual heft. It's "yes we can" being replaced with "I'm with her". That's the democratic convention in a nutshell.
    Bill Clinton was a Rhode's Scholar in Economics. I'd love to see the intellectual heft of your resume compared to anyone's on that list.

    For God's sake, can't you people ever concede anything?
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