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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    All Hillary has to do is coast. Trump doesn't want the job and is doing everything possible to dump his chances. It's a laugh.

    Yeah, every day I feel a little more like Trump is sabotaging himself because he doesn't want it and for some reason let it all go way to far, kind of like little kids sometimes do when they're caught in a lie. I used to pretty much be joking when I floated this theory, but now.... I think I'm mostly not joking.
    No shit.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,999

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    All Hillary has to do is coast. Trump doesn't want the job and is doing everything possible to dump his chances. It's a laugh.

    Yeah, every day I feel a little more like Trump is sabotaging himself because he doesn't want it and for some reason let it all go way to far, kind of like little kids sometimes do when they're caught in a lie. I used to pretty much be joking when I floated this theory, but now.... I think I'm mostly not joking.
    I've discounted this theory up until now. There really isn't any other explanation for someone running such a horrible campaign. It just seems like his ego is too big to run his name through the mud.

    Unless he comes out after the election and claims victory for destroying the GOP.
    As a famous philosopher once said (was it Socrates? Spinoza? Descartes? Wittgenstein? Kermit the Frog?) once said:

    "No shit, Sherlock!"

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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    FBI wanted Dept of Justice to probe Clinton Foundation but DOJ refused:report

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fbi-wanted-doj-probe-clinton-foundation-doj-refused-report-article-1.2747593
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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Free said:
    Dude, Clinton and doj met on the tarmac, which was suspicious as fuck! But good thing they cleared the air- it was only to have a social conversation. Phew!!!
    I'm sure it's not a big deal to the clintonites, unless it was a gop candidate than they'd be losing their minds.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,840
    tonifig8 said:

    Free said:
    Dude, Clinton and doj met on the tarmac, which was suspicious as fuck! But good thing they cleared the air- it was only to have a social conversation. Phew!!!
    I'm sure it's not a big deal to the clintonites, unless it was a gop candidate than they'd be losing their minds.
    Whoa. Crazy. You should file this under "How does a US Senator who makes 174k per year afford 3 houses including a 600k vacation home". Fucking 1%ers. These are unsolved mysteries...
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,007
    Answer me this, seeing your certain Hillary is a criminal, suspicious, shady, etc. etc., why haven't the congressional republicans announced an investigative committee and held hearings? They have subpoena power, they can request emails from top Obama administration officials including the current secretary state regarding the former, Hillary. So why aren't they doing it? Eight Benghazi committees and yet nothing being formed, no Tom "I'm a Warrior hear me roar" Cotton chomping at the bit to question witnesses under oath? Why? Because it's political. They only have the politics of personal destruction to try and ruin her credibility and make her unelectable because people "think she did something shady, like stole from the White House." And it's all because they thought she was going to be the nominee in 2008 and Barak Hussein Obama upset their game plan. And they, and many American voters, still haven't recovered from the fact that the political chicanery of yesteryear ain't working. The majority of Americans want compromise and shit to get done. The next generation is okay with a black man or a woman being president. It doesn't have to be a pasty white guy anymore. And to folks like Mitch McConnell and "I cry all the time" Beoner, and the rushbo's, pasty white guys like them, this goes against the very core of who they are and how they think their world should be ordered. Reince Prebus did a very detailed post mortem on the Republican Party after 2008 and came out with a bunch of recommendations to make the party relevant and competitive. How many were implemented or acted upon? There's no link to a feminazi, liberal blog post because IMHO.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,840
    ^^ It's quite sad that Prebus did this extensive port mortem and the GOPs official response was to do nothing, and its base's response was to select someone that vowed to do precisely the opposite.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,007
    mrussel1 said:

    ^^ It's quite sad that Prebus did this extensive port mortem and the GOPs official response was to do nothing, and its base's response was to select someone that vowed to do precisely the opposite.

    Beoner and McConnell both share a ton of blame with their "it's our job to make him fail." And for eight years. Except all they did was implode their party. Bad for democracy, bad for America. They'll never recover from this because they're the party of no and their trickle down theories and denial of climate change have exposed them as the dinosaurs they are. See the stock market lately? How about unemployment numbers? Particularly for those low IQ, college educated crowd? Imagine what could have been had there been a smidgen of respect from the republicans toward Barak Hussein Obama. Politics of personal destruction is an outdated political strategy. They have yet to learn that.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,840
    I wish you were right that the politics of personal destruction were over, but I'm not sure of that.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,007
    It'll always exist but it usually is coupled with actual positions, policy papers and plans to address issues. There's been none of that thus far because they haven't offered anything up. It's all been sound bites, ridiculous accusations and broad generalities (I'm going to build s wall that Mexico will pay for, I'll fight for the little guy). And Americans are eating it up. It's embarrassing.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,127
    The Clinton's almost have 1/2 as much money as Mitt! What percentage group does that put them in?

    multi-millionaires vs. alleged billionaires

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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,127
    Holy shit! I've always known that Hillary is a bonafide sociopath, but I didn't know she actually recreated the last scene of the Sopranos where she plays the biggest theatrical sociopath ever, Tony Soprano!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfkRjvAYuOc

    This would like me making a bit where I was Peyton Manning.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,999
    Free said:
    "[The G.O.P.] already have a 1-percenter who will be totally fine in the Oval Office, someone they can trust to help Wall Street, boost the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, cuddle with hedge funds, secure the trade deals beloved by corporate America, seek guidance from Henry Kissinger and hawk it up — unleashing hell on Syria and heaven knows where else.

    The Republicans have their candidate: It’s Hillary."

    Yup!
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited August 2016
    brianlux said:



    Free said:
    "[The G.O.P.] already have a 1-percenter who will be totally fine in the Oval Office, someone they can trust to help Wall Street, boost the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, cuddle with hedge funds, secure the trade deals beloved by corporate America, seek guidance from Henry Kissinger and hawk it up — unleashing hell on Syria and heaven knows where else.

    The Republicans have their candidate: It’s Hillary."

    Yup!
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,018
    So Donald Trump is completely transparent about what will amount to the dissolving of DACA and DAPA and the expedient removal of all immigrants without proper documentation - and Hilary Clinton instead wishes to keep the members here, thereby preventing negative momentum to the organizations, and (more importantly) its members. This is one of those rare situations where a politician's personal goals amounts to something which is actually socially progressive from an immigration policy standpoint: if you follow DACA and DAPA's histories, their ability to defend those they attempt to has been so weakened under Obama's administration that any attempt to salvage them is crucial (that is, if you feel that an immigrant has worth, which seems debatable). To read this article and to then state that Hilary Clinton is a sad low-life POS shows either you possess the reading and comprehension skills of a five-year-old, or that you will truly distort and manipulate truths in your mind to the point that you actually believe them, which makes it simple to broadcast. If it's the latter that's the case, it's no wonder you have so much to say about Hilary Clinton, and so little about Donald Trump; it's because your uninformed opinion-forming and political process concepts closely resemble those of Donald Trump.
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    have you seen the old videos of Hillary saying that Illegal immigration is a problem and needs to stopped ? now she' using the same Mexican's to further her own agenda, she'll use anybody or anything to get what she wants, unless of course folks really believe she's had a change of heart LOL !

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,007
    Jason P said:

    The Clinton's almost have 1/2 as much money as Mitt! What percentage group does that put them in?

    multi-millionaires vs. alleged billionaires

    image

    https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/13/us/politics/hillary-clinton-tim-kaine-taxes.amp.html

    So either Mitt has lost an astounding amount of wealth or you're misinformed. Still puts bill and Hillary in the top 1%. But isn't that where everyone aspires to be? And name the last president or presidential candidates who weren't in the 1% when they ran for office. You almost have to be to even be considered a serious contender.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,007
    I'm thinking it might be the latter.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2012/07/05/mitt-romneys-financial-shell-game.html

    And I thought I remembered reading that Mitt earned $38K a day without getting out of bed because he received residuals from almost every deal he negotiated while at Bain. But somehow he's not shady?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,007
    They all do it, influence peddle.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2015/09/29/forbes-2016-presidential-candidate-net-worth-list/#505f7f2f435d

    Corporations are people my friend. The only cure is to get the money out of politics but that ain't happening anytime soon. But why vilify Hillary for playing the game?
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    brianlux said:



    Free said:
    "[The G.O.P.] already have a 1-percenter who will be totally fine in the Oval Office, someone they can trust to help Wall Street, boost the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, cuddle with hedge funds, secure the trade deals beloved by corporate America, seek guidance from Henry Kissinger and hawk it up — unleashing hell on Syria and heaven knows where else.

    The Republicans have their candidate: It’s Hillary."

    Yup!
    i love how her supporters ignore these posts ...
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,176
    polaris_x said:

    brianlux said:



    Free said:
    "[The G.O.P.] already have a 1-percenter who will be totally fine in the Oval Office, someone they can trust to help Wall Street, boost the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, cuddle with hedge funds, secure the trade deals beloved by corporate America, seek guidance from Henry Kissinger and hawk it up — unleashing hell on Syria and heaven knows where else.

    The Republicans have their candidate: It’s Hillary."

    Yup!
    i love how her supporters ignore these posts ...
    Actually some of us have made this argument before. Both Obama and Clinton are moderates that would pass as republicans 20 years ago.

    We know this. You are the ones that seem to have the problem grasping it.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,840
    polaris_x said:

    brianlux said:



    Free said:
    "[The G.O.P.] already have a 1-percenter who will be totally fine in the Oval Office, someone they can trust to help Wall Street, boost the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, cuddle with hedge funds, secure the trade deals beloved by corporate America, seek guidance from Henry Kissinger and hawk it up — unleashing hell on Syria and heaven knows where else.

    The Republicans have their candidate: It’s Hillary."

    Yup!
    i love how her supporters ignore these posts ...
    Except she is pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-entitlements... What you are seeing is an opportunity for the Democrats to further expand its playing field, and its constituency. Trump has presented an opportunity of a lifetime and the Clinton campaign is wisely expanding its state reach and electoral advantage. White married women and college educated whites are moving towards the Dems. Good for her, good for the Democrats and good for the country.

    No one is avoiding anything....but don't expect a bunch of talk about an opinion piece.
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559

    polaris_x said:

    brianlux said:



    Free said:
    "[The G.O.P.] already have a 1-percenter who will be totally fine in the Oval Office, someone they can trust to help Wall Street, boost the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, cuddle with hedge funds, secure the trade deals beloved by corporate America, seek guidance from Henry Kissinger and hawk it up — unleashing hell on Syria and heaven knows where else.

    The Republicans have their candidate: It’s Hillary."

    Yup!
    i love how her supporters ignore these posts ...
    Actually some of us have made this argument before. Both Obama and Clinton are moderates that would pass as republicans 20 years ago.

    We know this. You are the ones that seem to have the problem grasping it.
    then why is it that so many people try to pass her off as a progressive when she clearly isn't?
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    polaris_x said:

    polaris_x said:

    brianlux said:



    Free said:
    "[The G.O.P.] already have a 1-percenter who will be totally fine in the Oval Office, someone they can trust to help Wall Street, boost the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, cuddle with hedge funds, secure the trade deals beloved by corporate America, seek guidance from Henry Kissinger and hawk it up — unleashing hell on Syria and heaven knows where else.

    The Republicans have their candidate: It’s Hillary."

    Yup!
    i love how her supporters ignore these posts ...
    Actually some of us have made this argument before. Both Obama and Clinton are moderates that would pass as republicans 20 years ago.

    We know this. You are the ones that seem to have the problem grasping it.
    then why is it that so many people try to pass her off as a progressive when she clearly isn't?
    And that was an exact point from yesterday! That she is a progressive! :lol:
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mrussel1 said:

    polaris_x said:

    brianlux said:



    Free said:
    "[The G.O.P.] already have a 1-percenter who will be totally fine in the Oval Office, someone they can trust to help Wall Street, boost the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, cuddle with hedge funds, secure the trade deals beloved by corporate America, seek guidance from Henry Kissinger and hawk it up — unleashing hell on Syria and heaven knows where else.

    The Republicans have their candidate: It’s Hillary."

    Yup!
    i love how her supporters ignore these posts ...
    Except she is pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-entitlements... What you are seeing is an opportunity for the Democrats to further expand its playing field, and its constituency. Trump has presented an opportunity of a lifetime and the Clinton campaign is wisely expanding its state reach and electoral advantage. White married women and college educated whites are moving towards the Dems. Good for her, good for the Democrats and good for the country.

    No one is avoiding anything....but don't expect a bunch of talk about an opinion piece.
    is anything in the piece not factual?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,840
    polaris_x said:

    mrussel1 said:

    polaris_x said:

    brianlux said:



    Free said:
    "[The G.O.P.] already have a 1-percenter who will be totally fine in the Oval Office, someone they can trust to help Wall Street, boost the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, cuddle with hedge funds, secure the trade deals beloved by corporate America, seek guidance from Henry Kissinger and hawk it up — unleashing hell on Syria and heaven knows where else.

    The Republicans have their candidate: It’s Hillary."

    Yup!
    i love how her supporters ignore these posts ...
    Except she is pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-entitlements... What you are seeing is an opportunity for the Democrats to further expand its playing field, and its constituency. Trump has presented an opportunity of a lifetime and the Clinton campaign is wisely expanding its state reach and electoral advantage. White married women and college educated whites are moving towards the Dems. Good for her, good for the Democrats and good for the country.

    No one is avoiding anything....but don't expect a bunch of talk about an opinion piece.
    is anything in the piece not factual?
    Well let's see:

    1. She completely avoids HRCs consistent voting patterns in the Senate which were 90+% liberal, instead pointing to DOMA (signed by her husband, not her) and forgetting the way the country was in the 90's.
    2. She completely forgets that Hillary put a ton of political and personal capital on the line to fight for health care as first lady. That was the issue that turned her into the punching back on the right.
    3. She pins the war on Clinton, as if she had any more information than anyone else regarding the intelligence. Secretary Powell was bamboozled as well.

    So in short, as usual with Dowd, she writes in a series of over stated adjectives and unnecessary hyperbole to make the case she is trying to make, without balancing it with any other information that makes a counter point. So in short, an opinion article, one to be discarded like every other opinion article.
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