This article wasn't completely clear (or I read it too fast). It appears that it is 'outing' the names of the people with whom she exchanged emails. But it isn't saying that these are email threads that the FBI investigation missed. Are you sure the 'news' here isn't just the recipients? Or is this newspaper claiming it found emails not evaluated by the FBI?
You're correct that the 'news' is in the recepients which in it of itself does add a ton more fuel. But...this shows that there are still things to 'know' and for good journalists to probe. Probing may lead to nothing or it might lead to something? Do these aides have security clearances? Did they share info outside the chain? Will tomorrow's reporting discuss content of the emails? If so is that content so top secret (drone strikes, satellite info, agents names) that it's clear national security was jeopardized? And finally does a foreign government or group like Guccifer 2.0 drop knowledge of this info a week before the election similar to what happened this week prior to the DNC. These links are not evidence of additional scandal for the time being but it demonstrates that this as a real issue is not dead regardless of the FBI. The democratic party has put all their eggs in this basket and it still has the potential to explode beyond what has already occurred.
I'm talking about mainstream media on TV where the average person gets their news. Not websites that are mostly for political junkies, who quite frankly already knew this. So the DNC is supposed to be a fair and unbiased committee helping all nominees equally. That clearly didn't happen.
You'll have to explain to me what is democratic about sending people on TV and other news outlets to demonize one of your parties candidates. Because that is exactly what happens. I thought America was about getting a fair shake. Whether it be in politics or your job.
After all this the fact that you think Hillary and the DNC are separate entities is laughable.
In a week following BLM protests, Police shootings, the RNC, France attack, Germany attack, etc., you think the 30 minutes of evening News at 630PM is going to find time talk about some emails between staffers at the DNC on how to attack Bernie Sanders? That hardly seems relevant in the big picture and won't change who the candidate is next week. Do you think these emails change the outcome? Did you change your vote based on what someone in a 3 min appearance on the Chris Hayes show said?
Shall I remind you of all the demonizing of HRC that took place by the actual Sanders campaign?
So that means that the country doesn't have a right to know how things were happening? You say staffers, as if it were a bunch of low level people. It was the heads of the DNC doing this.
You'll have to remind me of the demonizing that took place by Sanders. Probably wouldn't really compare to the stuff Hillary did in 08. Didn't her campaign send out that photo of Obama in Muslim garb?
I don't necessarily have a problem with the DNC pushing a candidate they feel has the best chance to win and represent their agenda. Pushing the platform is their mission. Even with that said, Hillary won by millions of votes.
That's not the DNC's job. They're not suppose to be pushing one person. I don't know what is so hard to understand about this.
No, they are supposed to be pushing a platform
But the platform isn't decided until after the primary. It literally just happened in the last few weeks so I don't understand what you're saying.
Come on. The DNC pushed the candidate that they felt best reflected their agenda. Who fucking cares. She won by millions of votes.
The DNC chose Clinton well before this primary happened and that's not how this country and process are supposed to work.
Then start a new party if you don't like the ones we have. I'm so sick of people acting like the current parties are the only options, America can't accommodate more than two. Bullshit. You want a Socialist party? Start one. Work it.
I'm talking about mainstream media on TV where the average person gets their news. Not websites that are mostly for political junkies, who quite frankly already knew this. So the DNC is supposed to be a fair and unbiased committee helping all nominees equally. That clearly didn't happen.
You'll have to explain to me what is democratic about sending people on TV and other news outlets to demonize one of your parties candidates. Because that is exactly what happens. I thought America was about getting a fair shake. Whether it be in politics or your job.
After all this the fact that you think Hillary and the DNC are separate entities is laughable.
In a week following BLM protests, Police shootings, the RNC, France attack, Germany attack, etc., you think the 30 minutes of evening News at 630PM is going to find time talk about some emails between staffers at the DNC on how to attack Bernie Sanders? That hardly seems relevant in the big picture and won't change who the candidate is next week. Do you think these emails change the outcome? Did you change your vote based on what someone in a 3 min appearance on the Chris Hayes show said?
Shall I remind you of all the demonizing of HRC that took place by the actual Sanders campaign?
So that means that the country doesn't have a right to know how things were happening? You say staffers, as if it were a bunch of low level people. It was the heads of the DNC doing this.
You'll have to remind me of the demonizing that took place by Sanders. Probably wouldn't really compare to the stuff Hillary did in 08. Didn't her campaign send out that photo of Obama in Muslim garb?
Who infringed on your right to know? You know. I know. It was on the boards and internet pages where lots of people get their information. You are saying THIS PARTICULAR story must be on the 30 minute news? Why? It's not relevant in the grand scheme compared to what else is happening.
Did this story make the nightly news? I guess not since you didn't know about it. I think Americans have a right to know and not have it suppressed to only internet and cable tv.
I didn't know you were in charge of choosing what's relevant. And yeah I heard plenty about the guy at the NYC rally who used that term.
It's so disappointing how complacent people are with collusion and underhandedness in this "democracy" we live in. Yeah I think people have a right to know what was happening behind the scenes because it effected how the primary was covered by the mainstream media, who whether you wanna believe or not, is where the majority of americans get their news from.
Precisely... I didn't say I was in charge of relevancy. And neither are you. The producer of the evening news IS in charge. But that's what is so great about today, which wasn't true in generations past. There are lots of places to get your news, so if it doesn't hit the front page or the lead in with Dan Rather, you still can find out about it.
And the bold comment is dripping with self righteousness.
The email conspiracy is dead. Yes, trump will pounce on it. But people's opinion are already set, for the most part. I don't see anyone that was considering voting for Clinton not voting for her because trump is going to try to keep the email scandal alive.
very true. while my choice is not made yet, the email nonsense will not be a factor in deciding.
Email nonsense? That easy huh. How about the DNC email nonsense? Just brush it off as no big deal, huh. All the shadiness and red flags surrounding the party and Clinton, yet we accept it as no biggie. That's amazing.
just as im fed up with radical liberals and their constant hate, im fed up with conservatives bitching about emails.
Radical Liberals? Constant hate of what? The facts? The facts are the facts bro. There is a reason why she and Trump are both polling so poorly on subjects such as trustworthiness and such. Don't be fooled. We weren't radical liberals when we supported Obama and other Democrats.
Absolutely! It's a scary thought, but very well possible. I just heard today that He has taken a lead in UT.
A lot of these Clinton supporters think that sanders supporters are simply going to suck it up and just vote for her because she's the only option. Some will, but polls show that a majority of us will not. Green Party has raised 500k in like 7 days or so. Their candidate is starting to reach the national stage. We will not vote for the lesser of the two evils
Absolutely! It's a scary thought, but very well possible. I just heard today that He has taken a lead in UT.
A lot of these Clinton supporters think that sanders supporters are simply going to suck it up and just vote for her because she's the only option. Some will, but polls show that a majority of us will not. Green Party has raised 500k in like 7 days or so. Their candidate is starting to reach the national stage. We will not vote for the lesser of the two evils
Utah? Hillary was never going to win Utah. Good lord.
Good for anybody who votes their conscience by voting for a third or fourth party. It’s America. Anyone can vote for whomever. We will see where the chips fall in November. Right now there are 20% undecideds, and those are the only voters Clinton or Trump care about at this point.
Absolutely! It's a scary thought, but very well possible. I just heard today that He has taken a lead in UT.
A lot of these Clinton supporters think that sanders supporters are simply going to suck it up and just vote for her because she's the only option. Some will, but polls show that a majority of us will not. Green Party has raised 500k in like 7 days or so. Their candidate is starting to reach the national stage. We will not vote for the lesser of the two evils
then you will be casting a vote for trump.
write in sanders, waste a vote. vote for jill stein, waste a vote. you think republicans are going to waste votes or write people in? fuck no. they are in anti-democrat mode and will be voting to crush hillary.
voting 3rd party now in this election will be stupider than voting for nader in 2000.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
i apologize if it appears that i am jumping your shit toni. i wasn't. i have always liked you and respected your opinions. i just think it would be a terrible decision to siphon votes from hillary because you are giving the white house to trump, which will be infinitely worse than hillary, and nothing like bernie or jill stein.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
i apologize if it appears that i am jumping your shit toni. i wasn't. i have always liked you and respected your opinions. i just think it would be a terrible decision to siphon votes from hillary because you are giving the white house to trump, which will be infinitely worse than hillary, and nothing like bernie or jill stein.
No worries man. I competley understand where you're coming from. I've heard it many times. However I've been granted this tremendous privilege and responsibility to vote. If I cast my vote for Clinton I would be ashamed of myself. I would also be contributing to a society that accepts this type of corruption and unethical behavior just so that the elitist can maintain their power.
Trump is horrible candidate in my opinion and I would hate for him to represent our country, however if he wins it wouldn't be my fault. It would be the democrats and their shady practices fault. Trump doesn't have the gop's loyalty - meaning people who vote on the right aren't going to come out for him just because he's the candidate. The party is just as devided as the democrats. Turn out will reflect that. Our country needs a transformation and if that transformation is Trump than that just means we need to keep fighting And working this until we get it right. This revolution is about making real change. That real change is not electing Clinton or Trump.
i apologize if it appears that i am jumping your shit toni. i wasn't. i have always liked you and respected your opinions. i just think it would be a terrible decision to siphon votes from hillary because you are giving the white house to trump, which will be infinitely worse than hillary, and nothing like bernie or jill stein.
No worries man. I competley understand where you're coming from. I've heard it many times. However I've been granted this tremendous privilege and responsibility to vote. If I cast my vote for Clinton I would be ashamed of myself. I would also be contributing to a society that accepts this type of corruption and unethical behavior just so that the elitist can maintain their power.
Trump is horrible candidate in my opinion and I would hate for him to represent our country, however if he wins it wouldn't be my fault. It would be the democrats and their shady practices fault. Trump doesn't have the gop's loyalty - meaning people who vote on the right aren't going to come out for him just because he's the candidate. The party is just as decided as the democrats. Turn out will reflect that. Our country needs a transformation and if that transformation is Trump than that just means we need to keep fighting until for our country until we get it right. This revolution is about making real change. That real change is not electing Clinton or Trump.
do what your conscience tells you to do. just know that voting for someone other than clinton this time is giving the keys to the white house to trump and his goons.
sorry to say but i have a feeling all of you will have a much guiltier conscience in 10 years if that happens, but hey, i won't have to worry about mine. i will sleep well knowing i actually voted against that asshole trump and my vote counted.
who is to say that hillary, when elected, will not give bernie a prominent spot in her cabinet? what happens then?
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
i apologize if it appears that i am jumping your shit toni. i wasn't. i have always liked you and respected your opinions. i just think it would be a terrible decision to siphon votes from hillary because you are giving the white house to trump, which will be infinitely worse than hillary, and nothing like bernie or jill stein.
No worries man. I competley understand where you're coming from. I've heard it many times. However I've been granted this tremendous privilege and responsibility to vote. If I cast my vote for Clinton I would be ashamed of myself. I would also be contributing to a society that accepts this type of corruption and unethical behavior just so that the elitist can maintain their power.
Trump is horrible candidate in my opinion and I would hate for him to represent our country, however if he wins it wouldn't be my fault. It would be the democrats and their shady practices fault. Trump doesn't have the gop's loyalty - meaning people who vote on the right aren't going to come out for him just because he's the candidate. The party is just as decided as the democrats. Turn out will reflect that. Our country needs a transformation and if that transformation is Trump than that just means we need to keep fighting until for our country until we get it right. This revolution is about making real change. That real change is not electing Clinton or Trump.
do what your conscience tells you to do. just know that voting for someone other than clinton this time is giving the keys to the white house to trump and his goons.
sorry to say but i have a feeling all of you will have a much guiltier conscience in 10 years if that happens, but hey, i won't have to worry about mine. i will sleep well knowing i actually voted against that asshole trump and my vote counted.
who is to say that hillary, when elected, will not give bernie a prominent spot in her cabinet? what happens then?
This isn't about Bernie man. This is about taking a stand against the establishment. There are so many issues involved here, so many other detailed factors that we're fighting for. It's not about Sanders - it's about removing the cancer from our politics, it certainly won't happen over night. However this is the perfect moment in time where their is this giant transformation occurring. Where millennials are taking command of this country. All the information that is being leaked and all this exposure is a moment we must seize because next time around they won't be communicating via emails or electronically, they'll be meeting on the tarmac of an airport, doing everything possible to protect their secrets. I hear what you're saying. Completely understand. But Trump or any president doesn't inact laws, as I'm sure you're well aware of. The struggle will continue. And yes we must vote with our conscience.
Democratic Party Charter and Bylaws, Article 5, Section 4
"The Chairperson shall exercise impartiality and evenhandedness as between the Presidential candidates and campaigns. The Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and evenhandedness during the Democratic Party Presidential nominating process.
Chairperson DWS reiterated this rule herself live on CNN- "The DNC remains neutral in this primary based on our rules."
There is plenty of evidence now proving that the Democratic National Committee, and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz personally, did not maintain impartiality and evenhandedness throughout the primary.
The DNC actively inhibited the Bernie Sanders Democratic campaign and then railroaded him into getting on board their platform with HRC. It does not get any more undemocratic that this.
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i apologize if it appears that i am jumping your shit toni. i wasn't. i have always liked you and respected your opinions. i just think it would be a terrible decision to siphon votes from hillary because you are giving the white house to trump, which will be infinitely worse than hillary, and nothing like bernie or jill stein.
No worries man. I competley understand where you're coming from. I've heard it many times. However I've been granted this tremendous privilege and responsibility to vote. If I cast my vote for Clinton I would be ashamed of myself. I would also be contributing to a society that accepts this type of corruption and unethical behavior just so that the elitist can maintain their power.
Trump is horrible candidate in my opinion and I would hate for him to represent our country, however if he wins it wouldn't be my fault. It would be the democrats and their shady practices fault. Trump doesn't have the gop's loyalty - meaning people who vote on the right aren't going to come out for him just because he's the candidate. The party is just as decided as the democrats. Turn out will reflect that. Our country needs a transformation and if that transformation is Trump than that just means we need to keep fighting until for our country until we get it right. This revolution is about making real change. That real change is not electing Clinton or Trump.
do what your conscience tells you to do. just know that voting for someone other than clinton this time is giving the keys to the white house to trump and his goons.
sorry to say but i have a feeling all of you will have a much guiltier conscience in 10 years if that happens, but hey, i won't have to worry about mine. i will sleep well knowing i actually voted against that asshole trump and my vote counted.
who is to say that hillary, when elected, will not give bernie a prominent spot in her cabinet? what happens then?
I'm one of those who have staunchly and firmly believed that there is no way I could vote for HRC (and obviously not Trump) but sadly, if when we get closer to the election time it looks like Trump has a chance to win I will have to vote for Clinton. It disturbs me to no end that I may have to cast my vote to someone I strongly do not support. I've voted in 10 presidential elections and this year's is by far the most frustrating, defeating, exasperating election I will have participated in.
As much as I loath to admit it, because a Trump presidency is basically unthinkable, I may find myself voting for a presidency that, though not as horrific as a Trump presidency, would certainly be- to put it mildly- repugnant.
I'm very much hoping 2020 is nothing like this election year.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
i apologize if it appears that i am jumping your shit toni. i wasn't. i have always liked you and respected your opinions. i just think it would be a terrible decision to siphon votes from hillary because you are giving the white house to trump, which will be infinitely worse than hillary, and nothing like bernie or jill stein.
No worries man. I competley understand where you're coming from. I've heard it many times. However I've been granted this tremendous privilege and responsibility to vote. If I cast my vote for Clinton I would be ashamed of myself. I would also be contributing to a society that accepts this type of corruption and unethical behavior just so that the elitist can maintain their power.
Trump is horrible candidate in my opinion and I would hate for him to represent our country, however if he wins it wouldn't be my fault. It would be the democrats and their shady practices fault. Trump doesn't have the gop's loyalty - meaning people who vote on the right aren't going to come out for him just because he's the candidate. The party is just as devided as the democrats. Turn out will reflect that. Our country needs a transformation and if that transformation is Trump than that just means we need to keep fighting And working this until we get it right. This revolution is about making real change. That real change is not electing Clinton or Trump.
How about if someone wins, it's because she (or he) wins? Why is it someone else's fault? Why can't it just be that one candidate ran a better campaign than another? Isn't that how it works in football?
For goodness sakes, if people want to vote for Stein or Johnson, so be it. We will see in Nov where the votes go. It's none of our damn business who people vote for, and if Hillary loses, I won't even give the revolution freaks that much power by blaming them. She will lose if she runs a shitty campaign. She will win if she runs a great campaign.
Today's roll out of Kaine was spectacular sign of good things to come. I'm not one bit worried about the fringe, and if I may be so bold, I don't think Hillary is either.
Tim Kaine kills it in his first speech. Did anyone else see it?
I thought he was amazing. Very impressive. Everything my brother in VA said - I wish I could find the email from years ago. My brother said something like, "Keep your eye on Kaine. He's the real deal."
You're correct that her VP pick is irrelevant. But not for the reason you think. Clinton could have picked OJ Simpson and she will still beat the donald. He has no chance.
I really think you are either underestimating Trump or overestimating the American public.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Tim Kaine kills it in his first speech. Did anyone else see it?
I thought he was amazing. Very impressive. Everything my brother in VA said - I wish I could find the email from years ago. My brother said something like, "Keep your eye on Kaine. He's the real deal."
Yes, I loved it.
I think what I love the most is that he's living proof that we can care for and work for and champion the less privileged without promising them truckloads of free stuff.
Tim Kaine kills it in his first speech. Did anyone else see it?
I thought he was amazing. Very impressive. Everything my brother in VA said - I wish I could find the email from years ago. My brother said something like, "Keep your eye on Kaine. He's the real deal."
Yes, I loved it.
I think what I love the most is that he's living proof that we can care for and work for and champion the less privileged without promising them truckloads of free stuff.
i apologize if it appears that i am jumping your shit toni. i wasn't. i have always liked you and respected your opinions. i just think it would be a terrible decision to siphon votes from hillary because you are giving the white house to trump, which will be infinitely worse than hillary, and nothing like bernie or jill stein.
No worries man. I competley understand where you're coming from. I've heard it many times. However I've been granted this tremendous privilege and responsibility to vote. If I cast my vote for Clinton I would be ashamed of myself. I would also be contributing to a society that accepts this type of corruption and unethical behavior just so that the elitist can maintain their power.
Trump is horrible candidate in my opinion and I would hate for him to represent our country, however if he wins it wouldn't be my fault. It would be the democrats and their shady practices fault. Trump doesn't have the gop's loyalty - meaning people who vote on the right aren't going to come out for him just because he's the candidate. The party is just as devided as the democrats. Turn out will reflect that. Our country needs a transformation and if that transformation is Trump than that just means we need to keep fighting And working this until we get it right. This revolution is about making real change. That real change is not electing Clinton or Trump.
How about if someone wins, it's because she (or he) wins? Why is it someone else's fault? Why can't it just be that one candidate ran a better campaign than another? Isn't that how it works in football?
For goodness sakes, if people want to vote for Stein or Johnson, so be it. We will see in Nov where the votes go. It's none of our damn business who people vote for, and if Hillary loses, I won't even give the revolution freaks that much power by blaming them. She will lose if she runs a shitty campaign. She will win if she runs a great campaign.
Today's roll out of Kaine was spectacular sign of good things to come. I'm not one bit worried about the fringe, and if I may be so bold, I don't think Hillary is either.
Blaming others? In this case you have loads of corruption and undemocratic practices. What rock have you been living under? Yes, people can vote for who them damn well choose to vote for, who's telling you not to vote for said candidate? What's astonishing here is that there is so many red flags surrounding Clinton and Trump, yet people don't give a shit about it. Like Trump said he could shoot someone and people will still vote for him. That's crazy, but so true. Just like it is with Clinton. It's fucking moronic, but true.
Tim Kaine brings some stability to the recklessness that has been her candidacy. Even though you guys are claiming he's all about the people, he still has his issues. What the DNC should have done is put out a candidate who wasn't so damn corrupt and filled with so many fucking issues and we wouldn't be in this situation trying to defend democracy. Instead we're here talking about all this bullshit surrounding HRC. This is legitimate bullshit not some damn conspiracy.
Tim Kaine kills it in his first speech. Did anyone else see it?
I thought he was amazing. Very impressive. Everything my brother in VA said - I wish I could find the email from years ago. My brother said something like, "Keep your eye on Kaine. He's the real deal."
Yes, I loved it.
I think what I love the most is that he's living proof that we can care for and work for and champion the less privileged without promising them truckloads of free stuff.
Tim Kaine kills it in his first speech. Did anyone else see it?
I thought he was amazing. Very impressive. Everything my brother in VA said - I wish I could find the email from years ago. My brother said something like, "Keep your eye on Kaine. He's the real deal."
Yes, I loved it.
I think what I love the most is that he's living proof that we can care for and work for and champion the less privileged without promising them truckloads of free stuff.
Michael Moore?? Oh my god, people. Please. He's interesting to listen to when he occasionally makes a movie that very few people watch. If you've seen one, you've seen them all. Just tell me what the topic is, and I can narrate it for you. Michael Moore is hardly in any position to understand middle America because he never hangs out here. We haven't gone anywhere, and if it seems like we don't exist, it's because all the loud mouth leftists are too busy drumming their racket to the delight of all the new media outlets. You have to be a loud mouth to get any attention these days and middle America is too busy working to put food on the table to compete with the Michael Moore wing of the world.
Trump picked a VP to excite a base because those are the only people who will vote for him.
Hillary picked a VP who is qualified to run our country if something happens to her. I just watched the entire Tim Kaine speech in Miami. If Michael Moore listened to that same speech and still can't get excited about Tim Kaine, then he's a bigger knucklehead than I thought.
You're correct that her VP pick is irrelevant. But not for the reason you think. Clinton could have picked OJ Simpson and she will still beat the donald. He has no chance.
I really think you are either underestimating Trump or overestimating the American public.
No, im not. Trump can't win without the minority votes. And the last time I checked, hes got none of them .
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You're correct that her VP pick is irrelevant. But not for the reason you think. Clinton could have picked OJ Simpson and she will still beat the donald. He has no chance.
I really think you are either underestimating Trump or overestimating the American public.
Exactly how many people does it take to tell you that Trump won't win before it sinks in??
You're correct that her VP pick is irrelevant. But not for the reason you think. Clinton could have picked OJ Simpson and she will still beat the donald. He has no chance.
I really think you are either underestimating Trump or overestimating the American public.
Exactly how many people does it take to tell you that Trump won't win before it sinks in??
You're grossly overestimating his potential.
Candidates always get a little boost after the convention.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
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And the bold comment is dripping with self righteousness.
A lot of these Clinton supporters think that sanders supporters are simply going to suck it up and just vote for her because she's the only option. Some will, but polls show that a majority of us will not. Green Party has raised 500k in like 7 days or so. Their candidate is starting to reach the national stage.
We will not vote for the lesser of the two evils
Good for anybody who votes their conscience by voting for a third or fourth party. It’s America. Anyone can vote for whomever. We will see where the chips fall in November. Right now there are 20% undecideds, and those are the only voters Clinton or Trump care about at this point.
write in sanders, waste a vote. vote for jill stein, waste a vote. you think republicans are going to waste votes or write people in? fuck no. they are in anti-democrat mode and will be voting to crush hillary.
voting 3rd party now in this election will be stupider than voting for nader in 2000.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Trump is horrible candidate in my opinion and I would hate for him to represent our country, however if he wins it wouldn't be my fault. It would be the democrats and their shady practices fault. Trump doesn't have the gop's loyalty - meaning people who vote on the right aren't going to come out for him just because he's the candidate. The party is just as devided as the democrats. Turn out will reflect that. Our country needs a transformation and if that transformation is Trump than that just means we need to keep fighting And working this until we get it right.
This revolution is about making real change. That real change is not electing Clinton or Trump.
sorry to say but i have a feeling all of you will have a much guiltier conscience in 10 years if that happens, but hey, i won't have to worry about mine. i will sleep well knowing i actually voted against that asshole trump and my vote counted.
who is to say that hillary, when elected, will not give bernie a prominent spot in her cabinet? what happens then?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I hear what you're saying. Completely understand.
But Trump or any president doesn't inact laws, as I'm sure you're well aware of. The struggle will continue. And yes we must vote with our conscience.
"The Chairperson shall exercise impartiality and evenhandedness as between the Presidential candidates and campaigns. The Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and evenhandedness during the Democratic Party Presidential nominating process.
Chairperson DWS reiterated this rule herself live on CNN- "The DNC remains neutral in this primary based on our rules."
There is plenty of evidence now proving that the Democratic National Committee, and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz personally, did not maintain impartiality and evenhandedness throughout the primary.
The DNC actively inhibited the Bernie Sanders Democratic campaign and then railroaded him into getting on board their platform with HRC. It does not get any more undemocratic that this.
As much as I loath to admit it, because a Trump presidency is basically unthinkable, I may find myself voting for a presidency that, though not as horrific as a Trump presidency, would certainly be- to put it mildly- repugnant.
I'm very much hoping 2020 is nothing like this election year.
For goodness sakes, if people want to vote for Stein or Johnson, so be it. We will see in Nov where the votes go. It's none of our damn business who people vote for, and if Hillary loses, I won't even give the revolution freaks that much power by blaming them. She will lose if she runs a shitty campaign. She will win if she runs a great campaign.
Today's roll out of Kaine was spectacular sign of good things to come. I'm not one bit worried about the fringe, and if I may be so bold, I don't think Hillary is either.
I think what I love the most is that he's living proof that we can care for and work for and champion the less privileged without promising them truckloads of free stuff.
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Show me your strengths, tell me what you want to accomplish and how - not the perceived weaknesses of those against whom you're running.
Show me 1 voter gained by naming Tim Kaine. Att'n Hillary campaign: It's not Trump who'll beat u. It's the people who are going to stay home
Tim Kaine. Sigh. Trying to win votes from a middle that's no longer there. Shows old political thinking. Trump picked VP to excite the base
Tim Kaine brings some stability to the recklessness that has been her candidacy. Even though you guys are claiming he's all about the people, he still has his issues. What the DNC should have done is put out a candidate who wasn't so damn corrupt and filled with so many fucking issues and we wouldn't be in this situation trying to defend democracy. Instead we're here talking about all this bullshit surrounding HRC. This is legitimate bullshit not some damn conspiracy.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-kaine-trade-tpp-226054
Trump picked a VP to excite a base because those are the only people who will vote for him.
Hillary picked a VP who is qualified to run our country if something happens to her. I just watched the entire Tim Kaine speech in Miami. If Michael Moore listened to that same speech and still can't get excited about Tim Kaine, then he's a bigger knucklehead than I thought.
we will find a way, we will find our place
You're grossly overestimating his potential.
we will find a way, we will find our place