Hillary won more votes for President

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    The federal records act is federal law. She broke that law. The only question now is whether she will be charged and prosecuted for it.

    http://observer.com/2016/05/game-over-emailgate-just-crippled-the-clinton-express/

    This ain't faux news and the denial from some of you is astounding.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    BS44325 said:

    The federal records act is federal law. She broke that law. The only question now is whether she will be charged and prosecuted for it.

    http://observer.com/2016/05/game-over-emailgate-just-crippled-the-clinton-express/

    This ain't faux news and the denial from some of you is astounding.

    Of course it's a federal law. But you aren't understanding what I'm saying about the difference between guidelines to maintain compliance and actually breaking a federal law (where actual damages likely must occur). The IG has no prosecutorial powers. It's going to come down to the FBI and whether they recommend charges to the federal prosecutors. If they do, yes she has a major, major problem. If that happens, then the convention goes in with no 2400 unpledged delegates and SD. In that situation, my bet is Joe becomes the nominee. If there is no prosecution, then it's easy for her to say "it's been thoroughly reviewed by the FBI and no classified information was released". End of story.
  • Trump has been saying forever that she has broken the law.
    It is gaining traction.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Trumps statements mean nothing. He was the king of the birthers and claimed Cruz's dad was involved in Kennedys assassination.

    So.... in summary. ..he's a fucking moron.
  • ^^^
    That is a Hillary response.
    Do you agree or disagree that she may have broken the law?
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    BS44325 said:

    The federal records act is federal law. She broke that law. The only question now is whether she will be charged and prosecuted for it.

    http://observer.com/2016/05/game-over-emailgate-just-crippled-the-clinton-express/

    This ain't faux news and the denial from some of you is astounding.

    My favorite sentence in the article: "Dislosure: Donald Trump is the father-in-law of Jared Kushner, the publisher of Observer Media."

    My second favorite sentence: "This serious accusation is unsubstantiated yet plausible. . ."

    Puh-lease keep informing me with all these "unbiased news reports."

    This weekend when I have time, I will read the actual 60-page IG report myself to see what it really says . . . not what everyone wants it to say.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    ^^^
    That is a Hillary response.
    Do you agree or disagree that she may have broken the law?

    Sure she may have, but the burden of proof in this country isn't 'may'.
  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348

    BS44325 said:

    The federal records act is federal law. She broke that law. The only question now is whether she will be charged and prosecuted for it.

    http://observer.com/2016/05/game-over-emailgate-just-crippled-the-clinton-express/

    This ain't faux news and the denial from some of you is astounding.

    My favorite sentence in the article: "Dislosure: Donald Trump is the father-in-law of Jared Kushner, the publisher of Observer Media."

    My second favorite sentence: "This serious accusation is unsubstantiated yet plausible. . ."

    Puh-lease keep informing me with all these "unbiased news reports."

    This weekend when I have time, I will read the actual 60-page IG report myself to see what it really says . . . not what everyone wants it to say.
    I quoted the NY Times isn't that a left leaning paper?
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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    edited May 2016

    BS44325 said:

    This pretty much puts the nail in the coffin. State Department Inspector General says Hillary didn't follow guidelines, didn't maintain records and didn't cooperate with investigators. Also evidence that she intentionally set up own server to bypass transparency laws and that her private server faced security attacks on multiple occasions. So in a nut shell she jeopardized national security so that she could avoid transparency.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLINTON_EMAILS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-05-25-10-31-23

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-personal-email-worry-223559

    Time to for the gems to get a new candidate.

    lol...you're delusional. Faux News is strong in you
    Is that your comeback for everyone that does not agree with the left, Faux News? I read multiple news sources and the truth is somewhere in the middle of MSNBC and Fox News. In addition I have worked with classified materials for almost 15 years and people on the left and right, who I work with are questioning what she did. This is no small thing, she had declassification privileges for the DoS however, if there was CIA, DIA, NSA or any other agencies material on her server she is fucked. She did not have declassification rights to those agencies material. It is going to be real interesting what the FBI comes out with. That is the information that might be damning to her campaign.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    BS44325 said:

    This pretty much puts the nail in the coffin. State Department Inspector General says Hillary didn't follow guidelines, didn't maintain records and didn't cooperate with investigators. Also evidence that she intentionally set up own server to bypass transparency laws and that her private server faced security attacks on multiple occasions. So in a nut shell she jeopardized national security so that she could avoid transparency.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLINTON_EMAILS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-05-25-10-31-23

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-personal-email-worry-223559

    Time to for the gems to get a new candidate.

    lol...you're delusional. Faux News is strong in you
    Is that your comeback for everyone that does not agree with the left, Faux News? I read multiple news sources and the truth is somewhere in the middle of MSNBC and Fox News. In addition I have worked with classified materials for almost 15 years and people on the left and right, who I work with are questioning what she did. This is no small thing, she had declassification privileges for the DoS however, if there was CIA, DIA, NSA or any other agencies material on her server she is fucked. She did not have declassification rights to those agencies material. It is going to be real interesting what the FBI comes out with. That is the information that might be damning to her campaign.
    You're right. Or she might be totally exonerated.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    That is a Hillary response.
    Do you agree or disagree that she may have broken the law?

    Sure she may have, but the burden of proof in this country isn't 'may'.
    Exactly. May is the key word. I'm only privy to what the media tells me. According to everybody, I shouldn't trust the media. I generally don't. That is why I will take the time to read the full report and make up my own mind regarding its cintent. That's the response of a critically thinking citizen.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    edited May 2016

    BS44325 said:

    The federal records act is federal law. She broke that law. The only question now is whether she will be charged and prosecuted for it.

    http://observer.com/2016/05/game-over-emailgate-just-crippled-the-clinton-express/

    This ain't faux news and the denial from some of you is astounding.

    My favorite sentence in the article: "Dislosure: Donald Trump is the father-in-law of Jared Kushner, the publisher of Observer Media."

    My second favorite sentence: "This serious accusation is unsubstantiated yet plausible. . ."

    Puh-lease keep informing me with all these "unbiased news reports."

    This weekend when I have time, I will read the actual 60-page IG report myself to see what it really says . . . not what everyone wants it to say.
    I quoted the NY Times isn't that a left leaning paper?
    I don't give a shit where any media leans.

    Let me ask you: Have you read any of the original documents in this case at all? The 50,000 emails? The govt's endless investigative reports? The transcripts of all the hearings and depositions?

    Until you have, you are as uninformed as everybody else. Get the fuck over this media bullshit. Like I said in the Bernie thread, it's a lazy argument. I prefer to do the harder work of reading the 60 pages. You're going to fault me for that? Oh, okay . . .
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    BS44325 said:
    Oh, for God's sake. I guess you missed my point, BS. Have a great day.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185

    BS44325 said:

    This pretty much puts the nail in the coffin. State Department Inspector General says Hillary didn't follow guidelines, didn't maintain records and didn't cooperate with investigators. Also evidence that she intentionally set up own server to bypass transparency laws and that her private server faced security attacks on multiple occasions. So in a nut shell she jeopardized national security so that she could avoid transparency.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLINTON_EMAILS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-05-25-10-31-23

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-personal-email-worry-223559

    Time to for the gems to get a new candidate.

    lol...you're delusional. Faux News is strong in you
    Is that your comeback for everyone that does not agree with the left, Faux News? I read multiple news sources and the truth is somewhere in the middle of MSNBC and Fox News. In addition I have worked with classified materials for almost 15 years and people on the left and right, who I work with are questioning what she did. This is no small thing, she had declassification privileges for the DoS however, if there was CIA, DIA, NSA or any other agencies material on her server she is fucked. She did not have declassification rights to those agencies material. It is going to be real interesting what the FBI comes out with. That is the information that might be damning to her campaign.
    Yeah we'll see. If they find nothing wrong you'll scream cover up because Faux News will tell you that.

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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348

    BS44325 said:

    This pretty much puts the nail in the coffin. State Department Inspector General says Hillary didn't follow guidelines, didn't maintain records and didn't cooperate with investigators. Also evidence that she intentionally set up own server to bypass transparency laws and that her private server faced security attacks on multiple occasions. So in a nut shell she jeopardized national security so that she could avoid transparency.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLINTON_EMAILS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-05-25-10-31-23

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-personal-email-worry-223559

    Time to for the gems to get a new candidate.

    lol...you're delusional. Faux News is strong in you
    Is that your comeback for everyone that does not agree with the left, Faux News? I read multiple news sources and the truth is somewhere in the middle of MSNBC and Fox News. In addition I have worked with classified materials for almost 15 years and people on the left and right, who I work with are questioning what she did. This is no small thing, she had declassification privileges for the DoS however, if there was CIA, DIA, NSA or any other agencies material on her server she is fucked. She did not have declassification rights to those agencies material. It is going to be real interesting what the FBI comes out with. That is the information that might be damning to her campaign.
    Yeah we'll see. If they find nothing wrong you'll scream cover up because Faux News will tell you that.

    If the FBI recommends to prosecute and the DoJ does not, then there is something fishy.

    PS. You seem to have an obsession with this Faux News thing. Is that your only counter argument?
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    This is from MSNBC. These are lifelong Democrats. They LOVE Hillary and have her back. For them to all be unified like they are in this video, one by one, saying how unethical and dishonest Hillary has been, is the new low in her entire campaign. PERIOD.

    Chuck Todd said that "She could not get confirmed as Attorney General right now" because of her blatant disregard for the rules and dishonesty about it. How in the world could we elect someone President if they couldn't even pass muster for a cabinet position at this point?

    Mika Brzezinski said "she is straight out lying right now" and has been all along.

    No person has been more faithful to Hillary than Andrea Mitchell Reports and Andrea, when pressed by Mika if Hillary was a liar, said "That's for the American people to decide, but this is indefensible."

    This, is from HER OWN CREW.

    Please watch THE ENTIRE VIDEO and share it.

    https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/videos/1058264634212454/
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185

    BS44325 said:

    This pretty much puts the nail in the coffin. State Department Inspector General says Hillary didn't follow guidelines, didn't maintain records and didn't cooperate with investigators. Also evidence that she intentionally set up own server to bypass transparency laws and that her private server faced security attacks on multiple occasions. So in a nut shell she jeopardized national security so that she could avoid transparency.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLINTON_EMAILS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-05-25-10-31-23

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-personal-email-worry-223559

    Time to for the gems to get a new candidate.

    lol...you're delusional. Faux News is strong in you
    Is that your comeback for everyone that does not agree with the left, Faux News? I read multiple news sources and the truth is somewhere in the middle of MSNBC and Fox News. In addition I have worked with classified materials for almost 15 years and people on the left and right, who I work with are questioning what she did. This is no small thing, she had declassification privileges for the DoS however, if there was CIA, DIA, NSA or any other agencies material on her server she is fucked. She did not have declassification rights to those agencies material. It is going to be real interesting what the FBI comes out with. That is the information that might be damning to her campaign.
    Yeah we'll see. If they find nothing wrong you'll scream cover up because Faux News will tell you that.

    If the FBI recommends to prosecute and the DoJ does not, then there is something fishy.

    PS. You seem to have an obsession with this Faux News thing. Is that your only counter argument?
    No...but it seems to apply.

    Faux News has created an alternate universe that republicans live in. The last presidential election is a perfect example.
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  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    stoopid is as stoopid... or
    greedy is as greedy...

    take your pic.
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