No charges. Wow. Everyone who is interested should watch the Comey statements in entirity. He basically outlined all the ways Hillary was negligent including the sending of unprotected classified info but then said no charges. The fix was in.
Right...if indicted it's great, if not indicted it's a fix
To me, she had someone setup her own home server. This wasn't her opening an account on Gmail. EVERYTHING was intentional. She put her own personal privacy over confidentiality of US government information. Libs...don't ever whine about Wall Street bankers not going to jail ever again.
Bill meets with Lynch. A few days later FBI clears her. A few hours later Hilary is having a rally with Obama. There were never going to be charges regardless of what was found.
First off, nothing the 'bankers' did would warrant a criminal charge so all that is just nonsense. It was a quite a long way from Bernie Ebbers, Enron, etc.
Remember in 2008, you had to go to a locked down terminal to capture any email at State. Think about the impracticality of that today. No middle manager at Bank of America has to do that, let alone the head of State. So if she didn't pass or receive confidential information at the time it was moved, then why would you expect criminal charges?
I just heard some commentary that even if she would have used the state.gov email system the same issues would have occurred.
Most of the classified stuff happened because responses were needed late at night or while some were travelling and simply did not have access to a secure system.
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No charges. Wow. Everyone who is interested should watch the Comey statements in entirity. He basically outlined all the ways Hillary was negligent including the sending of unprotected classified info but then said no charges. The fix was in.
Right...if indicted it's great, if not indicted it's a fix
To me, she had someone setup her own home server. This wasn't her opening an account on Gmail. EVERYTHING was intentional. She put her own personal privacy over confidentiality of US government information. Libs...don't ever whine about Wall Street bankers not going to jail ever again.
Bill meets with Lynch. A few days later FBI clears her. A few hours later Hilary is having a rally with Obama. There were never going to be charges regardless of what was found.
First off, nothing the 'bankers' did would warrant a criminal charge so all that is just nonsense. It was a quite a long way from Bernie Ebbers, Enron, etc.
Remember in 2008, you had to go to a locked down terminal to capture any email at State. Think about the impracticality of that today. No middle manager at Bank of America has to do that, let alone the head of State. So if she didn't pass or receive confidential information at the time it was moved, then why would you expect criminal charges?
I just heard some commentary that even if she would have used the state.gov email system the same issues would have occurred.
Most of the classified stuff happened because responses were needed late at night or while some were travelling and simply did not have access to a secure system.
This is precisely correct. The world wasn't waiting for State officials to go find an embassy with a secure server.
No charges. Wow. Everyone who is interested should watch the Comey statements in entirity. He basically outlined all the ways Hillary was negligent including the sending of unprotected classified info but then said no charges. The fix was in.
Right...if indicted it's great, if not indicted it's a fix
Comey did completely indict her judgement. Charges or no charges he completely disqualified her fitness to serve as commander in chief. If there is to be honour in government the democratic party and the media should immediately insist that she drop out of the race. There is still time to find another candidate. Everybody on here knows what she has done and can no longer blindly support her. Do the honourable thing.
I hadn't thought of it this way. Looks like I'm voting Trump.
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I missed the part where he said the involved emails were MARKED classified when she or her team received them. Did anyone else hear that part? Thanks.
I missed the part where he said the involved emails were MARKED classified when she or her team received them. Did anyone else hear that part? Thanks.
He specifically mentioned how the concept of being "marked" is irrelevant. That there we emails both sent and received by her that she both knew and/or ought to have known were classified. Classification occurs at the time of information being written and "markings" do not make it classified.
I missed the part where he said the involved emails were MARKED classified when she or her team received them. Did anyone else hear that part? Thanks.
What I got from the presentation was that she sent and received emails that held classified information at the time and that were not marked classified later on. My take on the briefing was that she did things that would have broke the law had the FBI found that there were more occurrences, and that the FBI felt she did it with willful intent to harm the US.
No charges. Wow. Everyone who is interested should watch the Comey statements in entirity. He basically outlined all the ways Hillary was negligent including the sending of unprotected classified info but then said no charges. The fix was in.
Right...if indicted it's great, if not indicted it's a fix
Comey did completely indict her judgement. Charges or no charges he completely disqualified her fitness to serve as commander in chief. If there is to be honour in government the democratic party and the media should immediately insist that she drop out of the race. There is still time to find another candidate. Everybody on here knows what she has done and can no longer blindly support her. Do the honourable thing.
I hadn't thought of it this way. Looks like I'm voting Trump.
This isn't about Trump or not Trump. We are talking about demanding accountability and honour. A judge just ruled today that personal emails are not beyond FOIA requests and this will apply to her going forward.
I missed the part where he said the involved emails were MARKED classified when she or her team received them. Did anyone else hear that part? Thanks.
He specifically mentioned how the concept of being "marked" is irrelevant. That there we emails both sent and received by her that she both knew and/or ought to have known were classified. Classification occurs at the time of information being written and "markings" do not make it classified.
But if classified then the emails should have originated at a classified server. That seems to be the case here. Emails were sent to Clinton and she replied to them that may have been classified but whomever sent them to her should NOT have done so in an unclassified format.
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I missed the part where he said the involved emails were MARKED classified when she or her team received them. Did anyone else hear that part? Thanks.
What I got from the presentation was that she sent and received emails that held classified information at the time and that were not marked classified later on. My take on the briefing was that she did things that would have broke the law had the FBI found that there were more occurrences, and that the FBI felt she did it with willful intent to harm the US.
This is correct. It also indicates that Hillary has been actively lying to the media and the American people since the outset of the investigation. She both used multiple devices and servers against the rules of the state department and federal record keeping laws. She also knowingly sent and received classified information through these non-secure systems. Hacking of these systems were not proven but according to Comey it was highly likely.
No charges. Wow. Everyone who is interested should watch the Comey statements in entirity. He basically outlined all the ways Hillary was negligent including the sending of unprotected classified info but then said no charges. The fix was in.
Right...if indicted it's great, if not indicted it's a fix
Comey did completely indict her judgement. Charges or no charges he completely disqualified her fitness to serve as commander in chief. If there is to be honour in government the democratic party and the media should immediately insist that she drop out of the race. There is still time to find another candidate. Everybody on here knows what she has done and can no longer blindly support her. Do the honourable thing.
I hadn't thought of it this way. Looks like I'm voting Trump.
This isn't about Trump or not Trump. We are talking about demanding accountability and honour. A judge just ruled today that personal emails are not beyond FOIA requests and this will apply to her going forward.
This will not end and will only get messier. For those who demand transparency in government need to speak out.
How is there not transparency? The incidents were investigated for months. She was interviewed. The FBI recommended no charges be filed. For what, are you precisely looking?
No charges. Wow. Everyone who is interested should watch the Comey statements in entirity. He basically outlined all the ways Hillary was negligent including the sending of unprotected classified info but then said no charges. The fix was in.
Right...if indicted it's great, if not indicted it's a fix
Comey did completely indict her judgement. Charges or no charges he completely disqualified her fitness to serve as commander in chief. If there is to be honour in government the democratic party and the media should immediately insist that she drop out of the race. There is still time to find another candidate. Everybody on here knows what she has done and can no longer blindly support her. Do the honourable thing.
I hadn't thought of it this way. Looks like I'm voting Trump.
This isn't about Trump or not Trump. We are talking about demanding accountability and honour. A judge just ruled today that personal emails are not beyond FOIA requests and this will apply to her going forward.
This will not end and will only get messier. For those who demand transparency in government need to speak out.
How is there not transparency? The incidents were investigated for months. She was interviewed. The FBI recommended no charges be filed. For what, are you precisely looking?
Are you serious? Transparency is supposed to exist without the need of an investigation. Hillary and her staff were required to send emails through a government system and set up the private system in order to evade transparency. The use of this private email system was discovered through the Benghazi investigation and the only reason we have any access to these messages now is from repeated investigation and FOIA lawsuits that Hillary continues to drag her heals on. This is not transparency! You should absolutely know better.
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Thanks all. With all the retroactive classifying and stuff, it's not a surprise that mistakes are made. It's a huge amount of emails. I think it was something like 20+ million emails of the Bush Admin that used private RNC servers but the emails were never preserved so couldn't be investigated, wasn't it? Hopefully, they made no mistakes. I'm sure they were careful so no classified material was spread around.
I missed the part where he said the involved emails were MARKED classified when she or her team received them. Did anyone else hear that part? Thanks.
He specifically mentioned how the concept of being "marked" is irrelevant. That there we emails both sent and received by her that she both knew and/or ought to have known were classified. Classification occurs at the time of information being written and "markings" do not make it classified.
But if classified then the emails should have originated at a classified server. That seems to be the case here. Emails were sent to Clinton and she replied to them that may have been classified but whomever sent them to her should NOT have done so in an unclassified format.
Correct but that does not absolve Clinton in the slightest. Anyone on the chain is responsible and as head of the state department it is encumbant upon her to put a stop to the dispersal of classified information.
I missed the part where he said the involved emails were MARKED classified when she or her team received them. Did anyone else hear that part? Thanks.
From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.
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No charges. Wow. Everyone who is interested should watch the Comey statements in entirity. He basically outlined all the ways Hillary was negligent including the sending of unprotected classified info but then said no charges. The fix was in.
Right...if indicted it's great, if not indicted it's a fix
Comey did completely indict her judgement. Charges or no charges he completely disqualified her fitness to serve as commander in chief. If there is to be honour in government the democratic party and the media should immediately insist that she drop out of the race. There is still time to find another candidate. Everybody on here knows what she has done and can no longer blindly support her. Do the honourable thing.
I hadn't thought of it this way. Looks like I'm voting Trump.
This isn't about Trump or not Trump. We are talking about demanding accountability and honour. A judge just ruled today that personal emails are not beyond FOIA requests and this will apply to her going forward.
This will not end and will only get messier. For those who demand transparency in government need to speak out.
How is there not transparency? The incidents were investigated for months. She was interviewed. The FBI recommended no charges be filed. For what, are you precisely looking?
Are you serious? Transparency is supposed to exist without the need of an investigation. Hillary and her staff were required to send emails through a government system and set up the private system in order to evade transparency. The use of this private email system was discovered through the Benghazi investigation and the only reason we have any access to these messages now is from repeated investigation and FOIA lawsuits that Hillary continues to drag her heals on. This is not transparency! You should absolutely know better.
"Transparency is supposed to exist without the need of an investigation"? Are you that naive? When in history has that been the norm? Which planet do you live on where criminals turn themselves in. Where philanders out themselves in public. Where you give your bag of weed to the security guard in the pit proactively and say you're sorry?
The Clinton team never believed they did anything wrong. And the lack of prosecution recommendation validates that feeling.
No charges. Wow. Everyone who is interested should watch the Comey statements in entirity. He basically outlined all the ways Hillary was negligent including the sending of unprotected classified info but then said no charges. The fix was in.
Right...if indicted it's great, if not indicted it's a fix
Comey did completely indict her judgement. Charges or no charges he completely disqualified her fitness to serve as commander in chief. If there is to be honour in government the democratic party and the media should immediately insist that she drop out of the race. There is still time to find another candidate. Everybody on here knows what she has done and can no longer blindly support her. Do the honourable thing.
I hadn't thought of it this way. Looks like I'm voting Trump.
This isn't about Trump or not Trump. We are talking about demanding accountability and honour. A judge just ruled today that personal emails are not beyond FOIA requests and this will apply to her going forward.
This will not end and will only get messier. For those who demand transparency in government need to speak out.
How is there not transparency? The incidents were investigated for months. She was interviewed. The FBI recommended no charges be filed. For what, are you precisely looking?
Are you serious? Transparency is supposed to exist without the need of an investigation. Hillary and her staff were required to send emails through a government system and set up the private system in order to evade transparency. The use of this private email system was discovered through the Benghazi investigation and the only reason we have any access to these messages now is from repeated investigation and FOIA lawsuits that Hillary continues to drag her heals on. This is not transparency! You should absolutely know better.
"Transparency is supposed to exist without the need of an investigation"? Are you that naive? When in history has that been the norm? Which planet do you live on where criminals turn themselves in. Where philanders out themselves in public. Where you give your bag of weed to the security guard in the pit proactively and say you're sorry?
The Clinton team never believed they did anything wrong. And the lack of prosecution recommendation validates that feeling.
Wow. I'm sorry. I thought transparency in government was a big deal on these boards. My bad.
Thanks all. With all the retroactive classifying and stuff, it's not a surprise that mistakes are made. It's a huge amount of emails. I think it was something like 20+ million emails of the Bush Admin that used private RNC servers but the emails were never preserved so couldn't be investigated, wasn't it? Hopefully, they made no mistakes. I'm sure they were careful so no classified material was spread around.
Except classified material was spread around. That has been acknowledged today. It was also acknowledged that it is highly likely foreign agencies accessed this information.
No charges. Wow. Everyone who is interested should watch the Comey statements in entirity. He basically outlined all the ways Hillary was negligent including the sending of unprotected classified info but then said no charges. The fix was in.
Right...if indicted it's great, if not indicted it's a fix
Comey did completely indict her judgement. Charges or no charges he completely disqualified her fitness to serve as commander in chief. If there is to be honour in government the democratic party and the media should immediately insist that she drop out of the race. There is still time to find another candidate. Everybody on here knows what she has done and can no longer blindly support her. Do the honourable thing.
I hadn't thought of it this way. Looks like I'm voting Trump.
This isn't about Trump or not Trump. We are talking about demanding accountability and honour. A judge just ruled today that personal emails are not beyond FOIA requests and this will apply to her going forward.
This will not end and will only get messier. For those who demand transparency in government need to speak out.
How is there not transparency? The incidents were investigated for months. She was interviewed. The FBI recommended no charges be filed. For what, are you precisely looking?
Are you serious? Transparency is supposed to exist without the need of an investigation. Hillary and her staff were required to send emails through a government system and set up the private system in order to evade transparency. The use of this private email system was discovered through the Benghazi investigation and the only reason we have any access to these messages now is from repeated investigation and FOIA lawsuits that Hillary continues to drag her heals on. This is not transparency! You should absolutely know better.
"Transparency is supposed to exist without the need of an investigation"? Are you that naive? When in history has that been the norm? Which planet do you live on where criminals turn themselves in. Where philanders out themselves in public. Where you give your bag of weed to the security guard in the pit proactively and say you're sorry?
The Clinton team never believed they did anything wrong. And the lack of prosecution recommendation validates that feeling.
Wow. I'm sorry. I guess transparency in government was a big deal on these boards. My bad.
I've written multiple times that we've never had more transparency in government than we do today. We've also never had better access to information, voter registration, participation, etc. Our democracy has never been healthier than it is today. I'm very supportive of continual effort to improve things and never rest where we are, but people who think things are horrible and worsening are unbelievably disconnected from history. My statement is made on the whole, not the individual.
No charges. Wow. Everyone who is interested should watch the Comey statements in entirity. He basically outlined all the ways Hillary was negligent including the sending of unprotected classified info but then said no charges. The fix was in.
Right...if indicted it's great, if not indicted it's a fix
Comey did completely indict her judgement. Charges or no charges he completely disqualified her fitness to serve as commander in chief. If there is to be honour in government the democratic party and the media should immediately insist that she drop out of the race. There is still time to find another candidate. Everybody on here knows what she has done and can no longer blindly support her. Do the honourable thing.
I hadn't thought of it this way. Looks like I'm voting Trump.
This isn't about Trump or not Trump. We are talking about demanding accountability and honour. A judge just ruled today that personal emails are not beyond FOIA requests and this will apply to her going forward.
This will not end and will only get messier. For those who demand transparency in government need to speak out.
How is there not transparency? The incidents were investigated for months. She was interviewed. The FBI recommended no charges be filed. For what, are you precisely looking?
Are you serious? Transparency is supposed to exist without the need of an investigation. Hillary and her staff were required to send emails through a government system and set up the private system in order to evade transparency. The use of this private email system was discovered through the Benghazi investigation and the only reason we have any access to these messages now is from repeated investigation and FOIA lawsuits that Hillary continues to drag her heals on. This is not transparency! You should absolutely know better.
"Transparency is supposed to exist without the need of an investigation"? Are you that naive? When in history has that been the norm? Which planet do you live on where criminals turn themselves in. Where philanders out themselves in public. Where you give your bag of weed to the security guard in the pit proactively and say you're sorry?
The Clinton team never believed they did anything wrong. And the lack of prosecution recommendation validates that feeling.
Wow. I'm sorry. I guess transparency in government was a big deal on these boards. My bad.
I've written multiple times that we've never had more transparency in government than we do today. We've also never had better access to information, voter registration, participation, etc. Our democracy has never been healthier than it is today. I'm very supportive of continual effort to improve things and never rest where we are, but people who think things are horrible and worsening are unbelievably disconnected from history. My statement is made on the whole, not the individual.
Except here you have an individual going out of her way to subvert the whole.
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Thanks all. With all the retroactive classifying and stuff, it's not a surprise that mistakes are made. It's a huge amount of emails. I think it was something like 20+ million emails of the Bush Admin that used private RNC servers but the emails were never preserved so couldn't be investigated, wasn't it? Hopefully, they made no mistakes. I'm sure they were careful so no classified material was spread around.
Except classified material was spread around. That has been acknowledged today. It was also acknowledged that it is highly likely foreign agencies accessed this information.
Thanks all. With all the retroactive classifying and stuff, it's not a surprise that mistakes are made. It's a huge amount of emails. I think it was something like 20+ million emails of the Bush Admin that used private RNC servers but the emails were never preserved so couldn't be investigated, wasn't it? Hopefully, they made no mistakes. I'm sure they were careful so no classified material was spread around.
Except classified material was spread around. That has been acknowledged today. It was also acknowledged that it is highly likely foreign agencies accessed this information.
Well, it involved the Hatch Act and the Presidential Records Act and I don't know how it all ended up but I don't remember the Bush Admin being on trial.
Here's the thing to me and what's important to me. Our infrastructure is in serious trouble and no one is doing anything as far as I can tell. That includes the outdated tech being used by our government with standards and up-to-the-minute gear being handled and put in place and updated regularly by the top tech people in the land. We need a modern system for that. Using ancient tech is just going to increase the problems. It makes me sad.
No charges. Wow. Everyone who is interested should watch the Comey statements in entirity. He basically outlined all the ways Hillary was negligent including the sending of unprotected classified info but then said no charges. The fix was in.
Right...if indicted it's great, if not indicted it's a fix
Comey did completely indict her judgement. Charges or no charges he completely disqualified her fitness to serve as commander in chief. If there is to be honour in government the democratic party and the media should immediately insist that she drop out of the race. There is still time to find another candidate. Everybody on here knows what she has done and can no longer blindly support her. Do the honourable thing.
I hadn't thought of it this way. Looks like I'm voting Trump.
This isn't about Trump or not Trump. We are talking about demanding accountability and honour. A judge just ruled today that personal emails are not beyond FOIA requests and this will apply to her going forward.
This will not end and will only get messier. For those who demand transparency in government need to speak out.
How is there not transparency? The incidents were investigated for months. She was interviewed. The FBI recommended no charges be filed. For what, are you precisely looking?
Are you serious? Transparency is supposed to exist without the need of an investigation. Hillary and her staff were required to send emails through a government system and set up the private system in order to evade transparency. The use of this private email system was discovered through the Benghazi investigation and the only reason we have any access to these messages now is from repeated investigation and FOIA lawsuits that Hillary continues to drag her heals on. This is not transparency! You should absolutely know better.
"Transparency is supposed to exist without the need of an investigation"? Are you that naive? When in history has that been the norm? Which planet do you live on where criminals turn themselves in. Where philanders out themselves in public. Where you give your bag of weed to the security guard in the pit proactively and say you're sorry?
The Clinton team never believed they did anything wrong. And the lack of prosecution recommendation validates that feeling.
Wow. I'm sorry. I guess transparency in government was a big deal on these boards. My bad.
I've written multiple times that we've never had more transparency in government than we do today. We've also never had better access to information, voter registration, participation, etc. Our democracy has never been healthier than it is today. I'm very supportive of continual effort to improve things and never rest where we are, but people who think things are horrible and worsening are unbelievably disconnected from history. My statement is made on the whole, not the individual.
Except here you have an individual going out of her way to subvert the whole.
There's no evidence that she willfully tried to subvert the system rather than trying to work efficiently.
Thanks all. With all the retroactive classifying and stuff, it's not a surprise that mistakes are made. It's a huge amount of emails. I think it was something like 20+ million emails of the Bush Admin that used private RNC servers but the emails were never preserved so couldn't be investigated, wasn't it? Hopefully, they made no mistakes. I'm sure they were careful so no classified material was spread around.
Except classified material was spread around. That has been acknowledged today. It was also acknowledged that it is highly likely foreign agencies accessed this information.
No that wasn't acknowledged at all. He said that they saw no evidence that the info was accessed but he said it would be likely that they wouldn't detect that type of evidence if it had occurred.
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Thanks all. With all the retroactive classifying and stuff, it's not a surprise that mistakes are made. It's a huge amount of emails. I think it was something like 20+ million emails of the Bush Admin that used private RNC servers but the emails were never preserved so couldn't be investigated, wasn't it? Hopefully, they made no mistakes. I'm sure they were careful so no classified material was spread around.
Except classified material was spread around. That has been acknowledged today. It was also acknowledged that it is highly likely foreign agencies accessed this information.
No that wasn't acknowledged at all. He said that they saw no evidence that the info was accessed but he said it would be likely that they wouldn't detect that type of evidence if it had occurred.
This is what foreign agencies do you simply refuse to read between the lines.
Thanks all. With all the retroactive classifying and stuff, it's not a surprise that mistakes are made. It's a huge amount of emails. I think it was something like 20+ million emails of the Bush Admin that used private RNC servers but the emails were never preserved so couldn't be investigated, wasn't it? Hopefully, they made no mistakes. I'm sure they were careful so no classified material was spread around.
Except classified material was spread around. That has been acknowledged today. It was also acknowledged that it is highly likely foreign agencies accessed this information.
No that wasn't acknowledged at all. He said that they saw no evidence that the info was accessed but he said it would be likely that they wouldn't detect that type of evidence if it had occurred.
This is what foreign agencies do you simply refuse to read between the lines.
Why you all want to cover for her when you still have an opportunity to nominate someone else makes absolutely mo sense to me.
I don't have the opportunity to nominate someone else since I'm not a super delegate. So the choice continues to be Trump vs. Clinton. And there's still no comparison as to who has the judgment, wisdom, experience, acumen, etc. to be POTUS. It ain't Trump.
The GOP convention has favorable rules to nominate someone else. I'll flip over to Trump's thread and look for your condemnation over there.
Next time I get pulled over for speeding (and there will be a next time), I'm going to pull out the 'ole "No intent to harm the US" defense and continue on my way.
Next time I get pulled over for speeding (and there will be a next time), I'm going to pull out the 'ole "No intent to harm the US" defense and continue on my way.
In criminal law, "intent" is one of the three classes of mens rea. So yeah, it's kinda important.
Next time I get pulled over for speeding (and there will be a next time), I'm going to pull out the 'ole "No intent to harm the US" defense and continue on my way.
In criminal law, "intent" is one of the three classes of mens rea. So yeah, it's kinda important.
How many people who get charged with gross negligence intended to harm someone?
Next time I get pulled over for speeding (and there will be a next time), I'm going to pull out the 'ole "No intent to harm the US" defense and continue on my way.
In criminal law, "intent" is one of the three classes of mens rea. So yeah, it's kinda important.
How many people who get charged with gross negligence intended to harm someone?
You're arguing something else now. You've moved from intent to negligence which is a different argument. Typically in most federal statutes, you have to have an effect for there to be negligence. I don't know if that's the case for whichever statute was used here, but there has to be a damage. So if there is no evidence that the data was compromised, you can't charge someone with negligence.
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Most of the classified stuff happened because responses were needed late at night or while some were travelling and simply did not have access to a secure system.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/private-email-freedom-of-information-225100
This will not end and will only get messier. For those who demand transparency in government need to speak out.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
98 CAA
00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
09 Phillie III
10 MSG II
13 Wrigley Field
16 Phillie II
The Clinton team never believed they did anything wrong. And the lack of prosecution recommendation validates that feeling.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/01d398239bd04ed9841ffb8c23ebfa3f/clinton-related-state-dept-records-delays-are-mounting
Here's the thing to me and what's important to me. Our infrastructure is in serious trouble and no one is doing anything as far as I can tell. That includes the outdated tech being used by our government with standards and up-to-the-minute gear being handled and put in place and updated regularly by the top tech people in the land. We need a modern system for that. Using ancient tech is just going to increase the problems. It makes me sad.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
This article just nails it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/05/hillary-clintons-email-problems-might-be-even-worse-than-we-thought/
Why you all want to cover for her when you still have an opportunity to nominate someone else makes absolutely mo sense to me.
The GOP convention has favorable rules to nominate someone else. I'll flip over to Trump's thread and look for your condemnation over there.