Okay, so I'm an advocate of Tim Kaine in general. He was governor of my beautiful state, mayor of my city and now my Senator. I've met him a few times in the Richmond airport and at a restaurant and found him quite engaging. That being said, Politico has a pretty tough piece on him regarding him being too centrist for Bernie supporters. It's a thoughtful piece, as much as I wish it were not true. I'm curious what the hard core libs on this site think about TK. I'm more of a moderate, particularly on economic issues.
Okay, so I'm an advocate of Tim Kaine in general. He was governor of my beautiful state, mayor of my city and now my Senator. I've met him a few times in the Richmond airport and at a restaurant and found him quite engaging. That being said, Politico has a pretty tough piece on him regarding him being too centrist for Bernie supporters. It's a thoughtful piece, as much as I wish it were not true. I'm curious what the hard core libs on this site think about TK. I'm more of a moderate, particularly on economic issues.
Yeah it's really hard to determine which poll to pay attention to. That's why I start to turn to Nate Silver (538 blog) to interpret based on his model.
Exactly. And he has 80/20 for Clinton right now.
Remember polls only mean something if you want them to. Don't try to outthink polls.
You completely missed the point of him stating "don't out think the polls". You are confusing out think with 'overthink'.
Okay, so I'm an advocate of Tim Kaine in general. He was governor of my beautiful state, mayor of my city and now my Senator. I've met him a few times in the Richmond airport and at a restaurant and found him quite engaging. That being said, Politico has a pretty tough piece on him regarding him being too centrist for Bernie supporters. It's a thoughtful piece, as much as I wish it were not true. I'm curious what the hard core libs on this site think about TK. I'm more of a moderate, particularly on economic issues.
I'm pretty liberal but I don't mind centrist politicians very much, on the most important issues they will do what needs to be done and the rest is all academic. There's also the benefit of making the right-wing nuts look even nuttier. As much as they hate Obama, they will hate Clinton even more, and it will be a disaster for them. Clinton is going to make the GOP go even further toward lunacy with her relative centrism, they will be stumbling to oppose her on positions they themselves argued just a few years ago.
Okay, so I'm an advocate of Tim Kaine in general. He was governor of my beautiful state, mayor of my city and now my Senator. I've met him a few times in the Richmond airport and at a restaurant and found him quite engaging. That being said, Politico has a pretty tough piece on him regarding him being too centrist for Bernie supporters. It's a thoughtful piece, as much as I wish it were not true. I'm curious what the hard core libs on this site think about TK. I'm more of a moderate, particularly on economic issues.
I'm pretty liberal but I don't mind centrist politicians very much, on the most important issues they will do what needs to be done and the rest is all academic. There's also the benefit of making the right-wing nuts look even nuttier. As much as they hate Obama, they will hate Clinton even more, and it will be a disaster for them. Clinton is going to make the GOP go even further toward lunacy with her relative centrism, they will be stumbling to oppose her on positions they themselves argued just a few years ago.
Okay, so I'm an advocate of Tim Kaine in general. He was governor of my beautiful state, mayor of my city and now my Senator. I've met him a few times in the Richmond airport and at a restaurant and found him quite engaging. That being said, Politico has a pretty tough piece on him regarding him being too centrist for Bernie supporters. It's a thoughtful piece, as much as I wish it were not true. I'm curious what the hard core libs on this site think about TK. I'm more of a moderate, particularly on economic issues.
I'm pretty liberal but I don't mind centrist politicians very much, on the most important issues they will do what needs to be done and the rest is all academic. There's also the benefit of making the right-wing nuts look even nuttier. As much as they hate Obama, they will hate Clinton even more, and it will be a disaster for them. Clinton is going to make the GOP go even further toward lunacy with her relative centrism, they will be stumbling to oppose her on positions they themselves argued just a few years ago.
Okay, so I'm an advocate of Tim Kaine in general. He was governor of my beautiful state, mayor of my city and now my Senator. I've met him a few times in the Richmond airport and at a restaurant and found him quite engaging. That being said, Politico has a pretty tough piece on him regarding him being too centrist for Bernie supporters. It's a thoughtful piece, as much as I wish it were not true. I'm curious what the hard core libs on this site think about TK. I'm more of a moderate, particularly on economic issues.
I'm pretty liberal but I don't mind centrist politicians very much, on the most important issues they will do what needs to be done and the rest is all academic. There's also the benefit of making the right-wing nuts look even nuttier. As much as they hate Obama, they will hate Clinton even more, and it will be a disaster for them. Clinton is going to make the GOP go even further toward lunacy with her relative centrism, they will be stumbling to oppose her on positions they themselves argued just a few years ago.
Well there goes Kaine... although this is legal in Virginia, it would create a perception issue that isn't needed. I'm betting one of the people vetting VPs released this to Politico. Sure happened fast after the other article.
Republican Donald Trump on Thursday accused Bill Clinton and Attorney General Loretta Lynch of showing bad judgment by meeting at a time when the former president's wife, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary, is under federal investigation.
The private meeting took place on Lynch's plane after she landed in Phoenix on Monday night and Bill Clinton was leaving the airport after a rally he held for his wife earlier that day.
Hillary Clinton is under an FBI investigation for her use of a private email server when she was President Barack Obama's first-term secretary of state.
This could be setting the table for something huge. The Lynch visit to Bill Clinton might have been a courtesy visit to a former President letting him know that charges could be on the way.
This could be setting the table for something huge. The Lynch visit to Bill Clinton might have been a courtesy visit to a former President letting him know that charges could be on the way.
LOL...have fun while you can
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It was a dumb move by Bill and Lynch. It just sets up a bad perception regardless of the discussions.
It was a mistake for sure but even Andrea Mitchell (solid Republican I believe), talked this morning about how it was to cover Bill Clinton when he was President and how he's extremely friendly and if he saw someone he wanted to talk to, he'd just take off and go visit with them. I can see Bill not thinking it through and wanting to talk about his grandkids. I wish he hadn't done it though.
It was a dumb move by Bill and Lynch. It just sets up a bad perception regardless of the discussions.
It was a mistake for sure but even Andrea Mitchell (solid Republican I believe), talked this morning about how it was to cover Bill Clinton when he was President and how he's extremely friendly and if he saw someone he wanted to talk to, he'd just take off and go visit with them. I can see Bill not thinking it through and wanting to talk about his grandkids. I wish he hadn't done it though.
This could be setting the table for something huge. The Lynch visit to Bill Clinton might have been a courtesy visit to a former President letting him know that charges could be on the way.
Hahaha it's funny how the "folks on the ground" always have smears at the ready for the Clintons, but they never have any evidence or anything more than the gossip they peddle. Benghazi. LOL "The Energizer". LOL There are plenty of others, but only a right wing nutjob (or consumer of nutjob media) would recognize more than those two stinky piles of poo.
Hahaha it's funny how the "folks on the ground" always have smears at the ready for the Clintons, but they never have any evidence or anything more than the gossip they peddle. Benghazi. LOL "The Energizer". LOL There are plenty of others, but only a right wing nutjob (or consumer of nutjob media) would recognize more than those two stinky piles of poo.
Yeah, it's not hard to find stories like this about the Clintons...masters of the graft they are. That's why it is so silly that people take security persons and the like at their word, there is enough real evidence of impropriety that the outlandish claims only serve to invalidate the argument against another President Clinton. I will still vote for her, because I care much more about the weighty decisions a President has to make than I care about money..who has it and how they got it. If it was almost anybody but Trump, she wouldn't get my vote, but her lacking integrity is not nearly as scary as lacking maturity in the way that Trump does.
Yeah, it's not hard to find stories like this about the Clintons...masters of the graft they are. That's why it is so silly that people take security persons and the like at their word, there is enough real evidence of impropriety that the outlandish claims only serve to invalidate the argument against another President Clinton. I will still vote for her, because I care much more about the weighty decisions a President has to make than I care about money..who has it and how they got it. If it was almost anybody but Trump, she wouldn't get my vote, but her lacking integrity is not nearly as scary as lacking maturity in the way that Trump does.
I find that to be strange calculus but if she gets charged you might be able to choose a third option.
Yeah, it's not hard to find stories like this about the Clintons...masters of the graft they are. That's why it is so silly that people take security persons and the like at their word, there is enough real evidence of impropriety that the outlandish claims only serve to invalidate the argument against another President Clinton. I will still vote for her, because I care much more about the weighty decisions a President has to make than I care about money..who has it and how they got it. If it was almost anybody but Trump, she wouldn't get my vote, but her lacking integrity is not nearly as scary as lacking maturity in the way that Trump does.
Wow. No wonder people don't like having to vote for her. You can't be serious, maturity over integrity?
Yeah, it's not hard to find stories like this about the Clintons...masters of the graft they are. That's why it is so silly that people take security persons and the like at their word, there is enough real evidence of impropriety that the outlandish claims only serve to invalidate the argument against another President Clinton. I will still vote for her, because I care much more about the weighty decisions a President has to make than I care about money..who has it and how they got it. If it was almost anybody but Trump, she wouldn't get my vote, but her lacking integrity is not nearly as scary as lacking maturity in the way that Trump does.
Wow. No wonder people don't like having to vote for her. You can't be serious, maturity over integrity?
Dead serious.
A hothead bully of a child who can't control his schoolyard bravado has no business controlling the world's largest nuclear stockpile, military, and economy. Rash decisions have real consequences, the Brexit is evidence of how quickly a reactionary movement can impact the world. Trump has shown in his candidacy that he will make statements and decisions with ZERO forethought. That's scary.
Clinton and her cronies will surely get richer with her in office, but she won't be jumping to ban religions or start trade wars.
Yeah, it's not hard to find stories like this about the Clintons...masters of the graft they are. That's why it is so silly that people take security persons and the like at their word, there is enough real evidence of impropriety that the outlandish claims only serve to invalidate the argument against another President Clinton. I will still vote for her, because I care much more about the weighty decisions a President has to make than I care about money..who has it and how they got it. If it was almost anybody but Trump, she wouldn't get my vote, but her lacking integrity is not nearly as scary as lacking maturity in the way that Trump does.
Wow. No wonder people don't like having to vote for her. You can't be serious, maturity over integrity?
Dead serious.
A hothead bully of a child who can't control his schoolyard bravado has no business controlling the world's largest nuclear stockpile, military, and economy. Rash decisions have real consequences, the Brexit is evidence of how quickly a reactionary movement can impact the world. Trump has shown in his candidacy that he will make statements and decisions with ZERO forethought. That's scary.
Clinton and her cronies will surely get richer with her in office, but she won't be jumping to ban religions or start trade wars.
Maturity and temper can be controlled/altered towards a straighter path. Integrity well you have it or you don't.
Hahaha it's funny how the "folks on the ground" always have smears at the ready for the Clintons, but they never have any evidence or anything more than the gossip they peddle. Benghazi. LOL "The Energizer". LOL There are plenty of others, but only a right wing nutjob (or consumer of nutjob media) would recognize more than those two stinky piles of poo.
It shows an astounding level of bias that you would see this as corruption and look at Cheney's Halliburton and the Iraq war and see no issues. It is virtually the same scenario, except one involves hundreds of thousands of human lives lost.
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It was a dumb move by Bill and Lynch. It just sets up a bad perception regardless of the discussions.
It was a mistake for sure but even Andrea Mitchell (solid Republican I believe), talked this morning about how it was to cover Bill Clinton when he was President and how he's extremely friendly and if he saw someone he wanted to talk to, he'd just take off and go visit with them. I can see Bill not thinking it through and wanting to talk about his grandkids. I wish he hadn't done it though.
Andrea Mitchell a solid Republican?! C'mon Kat!
I could be wrong but I tend to think she is Republican...married to Alan Greenspan and I don't get a James Carville / Mary Matalin vibe from them. Anyway, that was what she said about President Clinton. Hopefully, it'll all be over soon. Have a wonderful weekend everyone!!!
Hahaha it's funny how the "folks on the ground" always have smears at the ready for the Clintons, but they never have any evidence or anything more than the gossip they peddle. Benghazi. LOL "The Energizer". LOL There are plenty of others, but only a right wing nutjob (or consumer of nutjob media) would recognize more than those two stinky piles of poo.
It shows an astounding level of bias that you would see this as corruption and look at Cheney's Halliburton and the Iraq war and see no issues. It is virtually the same scenario, except one involves hundreds of thousands of human lives lost.
It was a dumb move by Bill and Lynch. It just sets up a bad perception regardless of the discussions.
It was a mistake for sure but even Andrea Mitchell (solid Republican I believe), talked this morning about how it was to cover Bill Clinton when he was President and how he's extremely friendly and if he saw someone he wanted to talk to, he'd just take off and go visit with them. I can see Bill not thinking it through and wanting to talk about his grandkids. I wish he hadn't done it though.
Andrea Mitchell a solid Republican?! C'mon Kat!
I could be wrong but I tend to think she is Republican...married to Alan Greenspan and I don't get a James Carville / Mary Matalin vibe from them. Anyway, that was what she said about President Clinton. Hopefully, it'll all be over soon. Have a wonderful weekend everyone!!!
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/hillary-clinton-2016-vp-pick-tim-kaine-213997
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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Clinton is going to make the GOP go even further toward lunacy with her relative centrism, they will be stumbling to oppose her on positions they themselves argued just a few years ago.
Go Hillary!
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/tim-kaine-virginia-veep-mcdonnell-clinton-224888
The private meeting took place on Lynch's plane after she landed in Phoenix on Monday night and Bill Clinton was leaving the airport after a rally he held for his wife earlier that day.
Hillary Clinton is under an FBI investigation for her use of a private email server when she was President Barack Obama's first-term secretary of state.
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/trump-raises-questions-about-bill-clinton-meeting-amid-probe/ar-AAhP8ei?li=AAggv0m&ocid=mailsignout
Anyone think this is not acceptable?
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/02/us/politics/loretta-lynch-hillary-clinton-email-server.html?referer=http://www.powerlineblog.com/
This could be setting the table for something huge. The Lynch visit to Bill Clinton might have been a courtesy visit to a former President letting him know that charges could be on the way.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
There's her church she sings in the choir
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/01/exclusive-hillary-clinton-scheduled-to-meet-with-fbi-on-saturday/
http://observer.com/2016/07/exclusive-security-source-details-bill-clinton-maneuver-to-meet-loretta-lynch/
It looks like Bill snaked his way into a meeting
Benghazi. LOL
"The Energizer". LOL
There are plenty of others, but only a right wing nutjob (or consumer of nutjob media) would recognize more than those two stinky piles of poo.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/01/clinton-sought-secret-info-on-eu-bailout-plans-as-son-in-laws-doomed-hedge-fund-gambled-on-greece.html
I will still vote for her, because I care much more about the weighty decisions a President has to make than I care about money..who has it and how they got it.
If it was almost anybody but Trump, she wouldn't get my vote, but her lacking integrity is not nearly as scary as lacking maturity in the way that Trump does.
Now I'm just longing for those days. lol
No wonder people don't like having to vote for her.
You can't be serious, maturity over integrity?
A hothead bully of a child who can't control his schoolyard bravado has no business controlling the world's largest nuclear stockpile, military, and economy.
Rash decisions have real consequences, the Brexit is evidence of how quickly a reactionary movement can impact the world. Trump has shown in his candidacy that he will make statements and decisions with ZERO forethought. That's scary.
Clinton and her cronies will surely get richer with her in office, but she won't be jumping to ban religions or start trade wars.
Integrity well you have it or you don't.