Hillary won more votes for President

JC29856

I'm talking rain makers vs rain makers

JC29856

Let's compare LeBron vs ????

JC29856

Who you got?

JC29856

Isolating lebron one on one versus who?

JC29856

brianlux said:

JC29856 said:

brianlux said:

JC29856 said:

https://wikileaks.org/hillary-war/

Jill Stein wants to celebrate assange as a hero and put him to work for US govt.

A vote today for Hillary Clinton is a vote for endless, stupid war
by Julian Assange
Hillary didn't just vote for Iraq. She made her own Iraq. Libya is Hillary's Iraq and if she becomes president she will make more.

I have had years of experience in dealing with Hillary Clinton and have read thousands of her cables. Hillary lacks judgement and will push the United States into endless, stupid wars which spread terrorism. Her personality combined with her poor policy decisions have directly contributed to the rise of ISIS.

Jill Stein, first US female president. How cool would that be!!

The US can't handle her, the northeast can barely stomach Warren. Imagine Stein!

I know.,, I'm a dreamer

Like talking to a Martian

mrussel1

JC29856 said:

Isolating lebron one on one versus who?

Lebron is the greatest SF in basketball history. At the end, he'll be considered top 3 GOAT, depending on the argument. To me, the only person who really compares to him is Magic. Only Magic can play 4 positions at a HOF level. So can Lebron.

Edit - Oscar too. But Lebron is passing up the Big O in stats this year pretty quickly..

mrussel1

JC29856 said:

Russel I welcome a back and forth on athletes vs wall street...I'll allow you to pick any job remotely related to wall st right down to the copy guy. My only restriction is they have to be employed by wall st, not a vendor like a cleaner copy guy or techie.

I still don't know this Wall Street company. I searched for it on a stock ticker and couldn't find it. Is it publicly traded?

In all seriousness, that's the problem with that silly chart, along with the other flaws I brought up. Are they talking about Investment bankers, commercial bankers, brokerage houses? WTF is he talking about? I don't think he really knows because he really doesn't understand finance. That's just a guess though.

JC29856

http://www.alternet.org/books/excerpt-my-turn-critical-doug-henwood-book-hillary

A 2014 Wall Street Journal analysis showed that the Clintons have raised between $2 billion and $3 billion since 1992—more than three-quarters of it from industry sources—for their campaigns, philanthropies, and themselves.

"The Clintons aren’t stupid people. They know the law and take pains to operate within it. Besides, corruption of the kind I have described in this book is very difficult to prove. We cannot ultimately know what goes on in their minds and ultimately prove the links between the money they took in and the benefits that subsequently accrued to themselves, their friends, and their associates. That said, the pattern of behavior I have established is too blatant to ignore, and deserves legal scrutiny by those with investigative capabilities that go beyond journalism."

In other words, a mere journalist can’t uncover the smoking gun. You need someone with subpoena power to get to the bottom of it all.

JC29856

.....of the thirteen speeches between 2001 and 2012 for which Bill was paid $500,000 or more, ten were given while Hillary was Secretary of State. Many of those speeches were sponsored by groups with interests before the State Department.

mrussel1

JC29856 said:

http://www.alternet.org/books/excerpt-my-turn-critical-doug-henwood-book-hillary

A 2014 Wall Street Journal analysis showed that the Clintons have raised between $2 billion and $3 billion since 1992—more than three-quarters of it from industry sources—for their campaigns, philanthropies, and themselves.

"The Clintons aren’t stupid people. They know the law and take pains to operate within it. Besides, corruption of the kind I have described in this book is very difficult to prove. We cannot ultimately know what goes on in their minds and ultimately prove the links between the money they took in and the benefits that subsequently accrued to themselves, their friends, and their associates. That said, the pattern of behavior I have established is too blatant to ignore, and deserves legal scrutiny by those with investigative capabilities that go beyond journalism."

In other words, a mere journalist can’t uncover the smoking gun. You need someone with subpoena power to get to the bottom of it all.

Well that's convenient isn't it? First, let's combine what they raise in philanthropy and what they raise in campaign contributions. How do you do that? What does that prove? It proves they ran for office and it proves they have a charity. Wow, nice job author. Way to piece that together.

Then he goes onto say they operate within the law because they aren't stupid. But the pattern of behavior (within the law!) is corrupt. Okay... Again, wtf does that mean? They are guilty of being corrupt based on his opinion not the law? But wait... Mr. author can't prove it... they need subpoena power. He clearly hasn't watched C-span since 1996 because there';s been a helluva lot of investigations and only a blue dress to show for it. Awesome investigative work by all parties.

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"I don't know where he was when I was trying to get healthcare in '93 and '94," Clinton said, according to New York Times reporter Amy Chozick.

I'm thinking dementia. Literally standing behind her.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/272790-sanders-spokesperson-fires-back-at-clinton-for-healthcare

mrussel1

JC29856 said:

"I don't know where he was when I was trying to get healthcare in '93 and '94," Clinton said, according to New York Times reporter Amy Chozick.

I'm thinking dementia. Literally standing behind her.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/272790-sanders-spokesperson-fires-back-at-clinton-for-healthcare

She led, he followed. Just like the polls today...

Free

JC29856 said:

"I don't know where he was when I was trying to get healthcare in '93 and '94," Clinton said, according to New York Times reporter Amy Chozick.

I'm thinking dementia. Literally standing behind her.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/272790-sanders-spokesperson-fires-back-at-clinton-for-healthcare

My advice for reckless Hillary is to do her homework before you start bashing your opponent... She's just making him look better and better.

Free

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article65692102.html#emlnl=Morning_Newsletter

Bank of America paid Clintons speaking fees, too – more than $1M worth

The Clintons collected the combined figure from Bank of America over four appearances from 2011 to 2014, according to financial disclosures posted by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. Former President Bill Clinton was the speaker on three of those occasions, once taking in $500,000 for a 2014 gathering in London.

mrussel1

Free said:

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article65692102.html#emlnl=Morning_Newsletter

Bank of America paid Clintons speaking fees, too – more than $1M worth

Do you hate the 220,000 middle class Americans that BAC employs? You know that saving the banks, saved their jobs too.

JC29856

Free said:

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article65692102.html#emlnl=Morning_Newsletter

Bank of America paid Clintons speaking fees, too – more than $1M worth

The Clintons collected the combined figure from Bank of America over four appearances from 2011 to 2014, according to financial disclosures posted by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. Former President Bill Clinton was the speaker on three of those occasions, once taking in $500,000 for a 2014 gathering in London.

Would love to know what was said? Billy and Hilly should start a speech training company. I would sign up for the class.

Free

mrussel1 said:

Free said:

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article65692102.html#emlnl=Morning_Newsletter

Bank of America paid Clintons speaking fees, too – more than $1M worth

Do you hate the 220,000 middle class Americans that BAC employs? You know that saving the banks, saved their jobs too.

You're seriously defending the Clintons being paid so much money by BoA by changing the subject.

JC29856

BoA employees received 400% to 1500% pay increases in 5 years.
http://insiders.morningstar.com/trading/executive-compensation.action?t=BAC

mrussel1

Free said:

mrussel1 said:

Free said:

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article65692102.html#emlnl=Morning_Newsletter

Bank of America paid Clintons speaking fees, too – more than $1M worth

Do you hate the 220,000 middle class Americans that BAC employs? You know that saving the banks, saved their jobs too.

You're seriously defending the Clintons being paid so much money by BoA by changing the subject.

No, I just like pulling that 'you hate America' move.

It honestly doesn't bother me when public figures give paid speeches. BAC, Wells, GM, all of these evil companies that were bailed out.. they are all American companies, filled with Americans at all income levels. And they all have the right to pay someone to speak to them. And all of these speakers have a right to earn as much as they want/can while paying their taxes. That shit never has bothered me and never will. I care how they govern. Hillary has generally been reliable progressive during her tenure as First Lady and as a Senator.

mrussel1

I worked at a senior level in a financial institution for 14 years. We had lots of speakers roll on through. Some of them were in office, some post-office. Think Rob Cordroy. Think Rubin and Summers. Some were considered friendly, others less so. Their speeches weren't necessarily love fests. They said lots of things that we would consider 'value destroyers'. But we listened because it helped us manage the regulatory environment better and there is a boatload of value in that.