Hillary won more votes for President

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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,368
    Free said:

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    unsung said:

    Free said:

    Already mentioned but here's the link.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/hillary-clinton-left-9-11-service-feeling-overheated-article-1.2787381

    First silence. Then "felt overheated" but "feeling much better." Now pneumonia.

    Oh, then after she reappeared from her daughters house she was out hugging children, while suffering from "pneumonia".

    No, really.
    Not contagious
    It is contagious. And she left Chelsea's apt. And hugged a child. Really smart.
    Pneumonia isn't always contagious.

    http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/1069.aspx?CategoryID=69

    Also,

    "After starting a course of antibiotics, the length of time you remain infectious can vary. However, you are usually no longer infectious 24 hours after starting antibiotics."
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    man if that was Trump......you guy's would be all up in the conspiracy theories'

    Godfather.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192

    man if that was Trump......you guy's would be all up in the conspiracy theories'

    Godfather.

    Not likely. Trump has enough crap on him as is....unfortunately the press is more focused on Clinton right now.
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  • pjhawks
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    Biden would obliterate Trump in a debate. I wish Biden was running but understand why he didn't. I will vote for Hillary but I think her supporters who flat out deny the health questions are fooling themselves. It could just be that she is getting old or just getting worn down by the campaign but the last few weeks she has not looked good.
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Does it strike anyone as odd that her campaign originally stated she had heat exhaustion, but then later came out and said she had been diagnosed with pneumonia on 9/9. Why wouldn't they have just said it from the beginning? The campaign also said she was good to go and that her schedule would not be affected. Late yesterday they suddenly canceled some big time fundraising events in CA.

    This doesn't look good on her.
    I also thought that when she walked away from that little girl(outside daughters apartment), it seemed like she just abandon her, there was no affection or goodbyes. She just turned around and left that little girl alone. Usually photo ops candidates try to kiss ass a whole lot... They try to appear like normal/genuine people, but that case it didn't seem that way. Anyone else notice that?

    Not trying to make this about conspiracies ....
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    tonifig8 said:

    Does it strike anyone as odd that her campaign originally stated she had heat exhaustion, but then later came out and said she had been diagnosed with pneumonia on 9/9. Why wouldn't they have just said it from the beginning? The campaign also said she was good to go and that her schedule would not be affected. Late yesterday they suddenly canceled some big time fundraising events in CA.

    This doesn't look good on her.
    I also thought that when she walked away from that little girl(outside daughters apartment), it seemed like she just abandon her, there was no affection or goodbyes. She just turned around and left that little girl alone. Usually photo ops candidates try to kiss ass a whole lot... They try to appear like normal/genuine people, but that case it didn't seem that way. Anyone else notice that?

    Not trying to make this about conspiracies ....

    Doesn't strike me as odd that they wouldn't be up front about pneumonia given the right wing crap that we being thrown around. They likely figured she would power through it and it ended up biting her in the ass.

    The Dr said that it was being overheated and dehydrated that led to her not feeling well yesterday. Not sure what the conspiracy would be there.

    For not trying to make this about conspiracies you are sure bringing up a lot of odd details.
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  • Boxes&Books
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    tonifig8 said:

    Does it strike anyone as odd that her campaign originally stated she had heat exhaustion, but then later came out and said she had been diagnosed with pneumonia on 9/9. Why wouldn't they have just said it from the beginning? The campaign also said she was good to go and that her schedule would not be affected. Late yesterday they suddenly canceled some big time fundraising events in CA.

    This doesn't look good on her.
    I also thought that when she walked away from that little girl(outside daughters apartment), it seemed like she just abandon her, there was no affection or goodbyes. She just turned around and left that little girl alone. Usually photo ops candidates try to kiss ass a whole lot... They try to appear like normal/genuine people, but that case it didn't seem that way. Anyone else notice that?

    Not trying to make this about conspiracies ....

    Doesn't strike me as odd that they wouldn't be up front about pneumonia given the right wing crap that we being thrown around. They likely figured she would power through it and it ended up biting her in the ass.

    The Dr said that it was being overheated and dehydrated that led to her not feeling well yesterday. Not sure what the conspiracy would be there.

    For not trying to make this about conspiracies you are sure bringing up a lot of odd details.
    What are odd details? I made an observation. So you're saying that they handled it the way they did to avoid being attacked by the right? Do you think they handled it, right? Because the video was frightening and their responses each step of the way was poor because now they made it a bigger deal to people. Now her health really is a legitimate issue. They said heat related, weather was fine 82 degrees 30% humidity, then they said she was sick and diagnosed a few days ago. Then they said they wouldn't be any changes to her schedule, but they already canceled Monday/Tuesday's events.

    For being a former Bernie supporter you sure do seem to get offended very easily.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Does it strike anyone as odd that her campaign originally stated she had heat exhaustion, but then later came out and said she had been diagnosed with pneumonia on 9/9. Why wouldn't they have just said it from the beginning? The campaign also said she was good to go and that her schedule would not be affected. Late yesterday they suddenly canceled some big time fundraising events in CA.

    This doesn't look good on her.
    I also thought that when she walked away from that little girl(outside daughters apartment), it seemed like she just abandon her, there was no affection or goodbyes. She just turned around and left that little girl alone. Usually photo ops candidates try to kiss ass a whole lot... They try to appear like normal/genuine people, but that case it didn't seem that way. Anyone else notice that?

    Not trying to make this about conspiracies ....

    Doesn't strike me as odd that they wouldn't be up front about pneumonia given the right wing crap that we being thrown around. They likely figured she would power through it and it ended up biting her in the ass.

    The Dr said that it was being overheated and dehydrated that led to her not feeling well yesterday. Not sure what the conspiracy would be there.

    For not trying to make this about conspiracies you are sure bringing up a lot of odd details.
    What are odd details? I made an observation. So you're saying that they handled it the way they did to avoid being attacked by the right? Do you think they handled it, right? Because the video was frightening and their responses each step of the way was poor because now they made it a bigger deal to people. Now her health really is a legitimate issue. They said heat related, weather was fine 82 degrees 30% humidity, then they said she was sick and diagnosed a few days ago. Then they said they wouldn't be any changes to her schedule, but they already canceled Monday/Tuesday's events.

    For being a former Bernie supporter you sure do seem to get offended very easily.
    I'm not offended. I'm just tired of dealing with ignorance.

    82 degrees, with pneumonia, in a suit, surrounded by many people (the pictures look like they were packed in pretty tight).

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  • unsung
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    tonifig8 said:

    Does it strike anyone as odd that her campaign originally stated she had heat exhaustion, but then later came out and said she had been diagnosed with pneumonia on 9/9. Why wouldn't they have just said it from the beginning? The campaign also said she was good to go and that her schedule would not be affected. Late yesterday they suddenly canceled some big time fundraising events in CA.

    This doesn't look good on her.
    I also thought that when she walked away from that little girl(outside daughters apartment), it seemed like she just abandon her, there was no affection or goodbyes. She just turned around and left that little girl alone. Usually photo ops candidates try to kiss ass a whole lot... They try to appear like normal/genuine people, but that case it didn't seem that way. Anyone else notice that?

    Not trying to make this about conspiracies ....

    Doesn't strike me as odd that they wouldn't be up front about pneumonia given the right wing crap that we being thrown around. They likely figured she would power through it and it ended up biting her in the ass.

    The Dr said that it was being overheated and dehydrated that led to her not feeling well yesterday. Not sure what the conspiracy would be there.

    For not trying to make this about conspiracies you are sure bringing up a lot of odd details.
    Lots of lies to keep straight.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    unsung said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Does it strike anyone as odd that her campaign originally stated she had heat exhaustion, but then later came out and said she had been diagnosed with pneumonia on 9/9. Why wouldn't they have just said it from the beginning? The campaign also said she was good to go and that her schedule would not be affected. Late yesterday they suddenly canceled some big time fundraising events in CA.

    This doesn't look good on her.
    I also thought that when she walked away from that little girl(outside daughters apartment), it seemed like she just abandon her, there was no affection or goodbyes. She just turned around and left that little girl alone. Usually photo ops candidates try to kiss ass a whole lot... They try to appear like normal/genuine people, but that case it didn't seem that way. Anyone else notice that?

    Not trying to make this about conspiracies ....

    Doesn't strike me as odd that they wouldn't be up front about pneumonia given the right wing crap that we being thrown around. They likely figured she would power through it and it ended up biting her in the ass.

    The Dr said that it was being overheated and dehydrated that led to her not feeling well yesterday. Not sure what the conspiracy would be there.

    For not trying to make this about conspiracies you are sure bringing up a lot of odd details.
    Lots of lies to keep straight.
    Thanks for your opinion Mr. Sunshine.
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  • Godfather.
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    pjhawks said:

    Biden would obliterate Trump in a debate. I wish Biden was running but understand why he didn't. I will vote for Hillary but I think her supporters who flat out deny the health questions are fooling themselves. It could just be that she is getting old or just getting worn down by the campaign but the last few weeks she has not looked good.
    no she hasn't looked good, and as I've said before judging by her appearance it sure looks like a bad heart or clogged arteries to me
    especially with her loosing energy and getting "heated" and her speech has been affected recently as well, these are all signs of a heart condition I know first hand but I am no doctor and have only seen her on t.v so who knows ?
    if this is the case she would be doing herself a huge favor and take care of it now ! the constant stress and physical activity (yes even walking to your car or into the store is very exhausting when you have heart problems) will get her if she's not careful.

    Godfather.

  • Jason P
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    Multiple versions of her health status by her own people is a continuation of the lack of transparency in the Clinton legacy. Who knows if it is even pneumonia based on the track record?
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  • hedonist
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    Jason P said:

    Multiple versions of her health status by her own people is a continuation of the lack of transparency in the Clinton legacy. Who knows if it is even pneumonia based on the track record?

    Granted I haven't seen too much of this, but I did find the allergies / pneumonia thing odd. Overheating after either? Not so far-fetched.
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672

    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    Does it strike anyone as odd that her campaign originally stated she had heat exhaustion, but then later came out and said she had been diagnosed with pneumonia on 9/9. Why wouldn't they have just said it from the beginning? The campaign also said she was good to go and that her schedule would not be affected. Late yesterday they suddenly canceled some big time fundraising events in CA.

    This doesn't look good on her.
    I also thought that when she walked away from that little girl(outside daughters apartment), it seemed like she just abandon her, there was no affection or goodbyes. She just turned around and left that little girl alone. Usually photo ops candidates try to kiss ass a whole lot... They try to appear like normal/genuine people, but that case it didn't seem that way. Anyone else notice that?

    Not trying to make this about conspiracies ....

    Doesn't strike me as odd that they wouldn't be up front about pneumonia given the right wing crap that we being thrown around. They likely figured she would power through it and it ended up biting her in the ass.

    The Dr said that it was being overheated and dehydrated that led to her not feeling well yesterday. Not sure what the conspiracy would be there.

    For not trying to make this about conspiracies you are sure bringing up a lot of odd details.
    What are odd details? I made an observation. So you're saying that they handled it the way they did to avoid being attacked by the right? Do you think they handled it, right? Because the video was frightening and their responses each step of the way was poor because now they made it a bigger deal to people. Now her health really is a legitimate issue. They said heat related, weather was fine 82 degrees 30% humidity, then they said she was sick and diagnosed a few days ago. Then they said they wouldn't be any changes to her schedule, but they already canceled Monday/Tuesday's events.

    For being a former Bernie supporter you sure do seem to get offended very easily.
    I'm not offended. I'm just tired of dealing with ignorance.

    82 degrees, with pneumonia, in a suit, surrounded by many people (the pictures look like they were packed in pretty tight).

    That's not really my point and I'm not really sure how I'm demonstrating ignorance.

    The Clinton camp failed to inform the public, which is now legitimately fueling the health issue. they could have handled it better, right? Health is a legitimate issue, right?

    They said nothing would be canceled, today and tomorrow , however plans are now canceled. They could have came out right away with the truth, been upfront with it, but instead they now have themselves a little mess. Is this not true? The whole time they were trying to spin the situation in different directions. Not sure what's so hard about simply being honest about things.



  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562

    Because it's contagious.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Jason P said:

    Multiple versions of her health status by her own people is a continuation of the lack of transparency in the Clinton legacy. Who knows if it is even pneumonia based on the track record?

    You have to wonder.
  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    The only way they stand a chance in November is to have her bow out gracefully and have Kaine take over. He seems to be a likeable guy and there's still plenty of time for him to be established as the primary candidate.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    Shawshank said:

    The only way they stand a chance in November is to have her bow out gracefully and have Kaine take over. He seems to be a likeable guy and there's still plenty of time for him to be established as the primary candidate.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now
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