A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?
Or
B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?
I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.
I do NOT believe Ahmed EVER said he invented that clock. I believe he said he BUILT that clock...whether from parts of another clock possibly but I'm pretty sure he said he *built* that clock.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).
I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.
And GF - facts, not speculation?
well my friend what exactly are the fact's ? a) he made a clock b) it resembled a bomb c) it was mounted in a briefcase
so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?
A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?
Or
B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?
I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.
Did he claim to have invented or just built?
In that case he is a fraudulent builder.
I can't just staple my computer to a wall and say "Hey, look at the computer I built!".
if you were a high school muslim boy you could because you'd have the power of political correctness on your side...no go staple that computer to the wall ! LOL !! ps. don't even try making a toy Uzi HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).
I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.
And GF - facts, not speculation?
well my friend what exactly are the fact's ? a) he made a clock b) it resembled a bomb c) it was mounted in a briefcase
so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).
I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.
And GF - facts, not speculation?
well my friend what exactly are the fact's ? a) he made a clock b) it resembled a bomb c) it was mounted in a briefcase
so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?
Godfather.
B is an opinion. Subjective.
The other 2 are objective
o.k. Perry Mason LOL ! do you object that he made a clock ? and it was mounted in a briefcase ? councilor the evidence clearly shows what appears to be a home made bomb in a brief case. the prosecution rests, your witness sir.
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And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).
I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.
And GF - facts, not speculation?
well my friend what exactly are the fact's ? a) he made a clock b) it resembled a bomb c) it was mounted in a briefcase
so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?
Godfather.
B is an opinion. Subjective.
The other 2 are objective
o.k. Perry Mason LOL ! do you object that he made a clock ? and it was mounted in a briefcase ? councilor the evidence clearly shows what appears to be a home made bomb in a brief case. the prosecution rests, your witness sir.
Godfather.
Lol, one thing....an important ingredient appears to be missing for it to appear to be a bomb....where are the explosives..plastique or C4?
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).
I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.
And GF - facts, not speculation?
well my friend what exactly are the fact's ? a) he made a clock b) it resembled a bomb c) it was mounted in a briefcase
so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?
Godfather.
B is an opinion. Subjective.
The other 2 are objective
o.k. Perry Mason LOL ! do you object that he made a clock ? and it was mounted in a briefcase ? councilor the evidence clearly shows what appears to be a home made bomb in a brief case. the prosecution rests, your witness sir.
Godfather.
Lol, one thing....an important ingredient appears to be missing for it to appear to be a bomb....where are the explosives..plastique or C4?
Peace
I'll have a CSI and bomb disposal team report on that. LOL !!!!
And the other seven brought a device that resembled a device that might have looked lik a bomb, a clock, one of which was an inert bomb. Why the differing in treatment? All seven applauded, one teacher suspended and Mohamed arrested. Why? He explained it was a clock and not a bomb. I haven't seen pictures of what the other seven looked like but Mohamed explained that it was a clock. Why was he arrested?
Even if the first several teachers he showed it to knew it wasn't a bomb, they sure as hell should have been concerned with exposed electrical wiring and components and confiscated it immediately.
That could shock you if it was plugged into a wall socket.
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Even if the first several teachers he showed it to knew it wasn't a bomb, they sure as hell should have been concerned with exposed electrical wiring and components and confiscated it immediately.
That could shock you if it was plugged into a wall socket.
True that would certainly would be a safety concern. As a teacher one of your responsibilities are the safety at all of the children under your supervision.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Even if the first several teachers he showed it to knew it wasn't a bomb, they sure as hell should have been concerned with exposed electrical wiring and components and confiscated it immediately.
That could shock you if it was plugged into a wall socket.
True that would certainly would be a safety concern. As a teacher one of your responsibilities are the safety at all of the children under your supervision.
Peace
That's the key right there.You land on the side of precaution in today's society.Its better to act quick and be wrong then to do nothing and be wrong. The more this is marinating and lingering the more I'm questioning who is ultimately wrong here.
This article from 7 days ago talks about his build. Their take on it is far less nefarious than some on here would like to believe. No big conspiracy here guys, put away the pitch forks and find another Muslim to go after in your spare time.....because that's what this is starting to sound like....a witch hunt.
Also the kid wasn't arrested and suspended for having a gadget that could "shock someone". He was arrested on suspicion of having a bomb. Stop trying to change the narrative.
Also, now that I have seen the picture of the "bomb" I am more convinced of the over reaction by police and school. That thing was tiny, and clearly only electronics....thinking it was anything else is laughable.
Changing the narrative is the only reason this is a story.
Also, if it was clearly only electronics, I don't see why we should ignore the teachers negligence in not spotting a clear safety risk. That would provide evidence that they were competent. That they couldn't identify the safety risk, shows that there were incompetent. Thus, laying the ground work that an English teacher may have worried that the device was an potential bomb.
I didn't think a new thread was needed but I saw this story on the news tonight.Id be interested to hear what you all think. In NJ the Muslim community at this school district wants a Muslim holiday with 6 days notice.Things get heated and it hits the news.The line the news is playing is "We will be the Majority soon". Im assuming it will bother some and others will support the issue. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/video-muslims-taunt-nj-school-officials-were-going-to-be-the-majority-soon/ Anyone from that area have any insight?
I didn't think a new thread was needed but I saw this story on the news tonight.Id be interested to hear what you all think. In NJ the Muslim community at this school district wants a Muslim holiday with 6 days notice.Things get heated and it hits the news.The line the news is playing is "We will be the Majority soon". Im assuming it will bother some and others will support the issue. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/video-muslims-taunt-nj-school-officials-were-going-to-be-the-majority-soon/ Anyone from that area have any insight?
Well, I believe its the same most places , that the State dictates what days are honored and when. Even if its a local issue , they woulld have ot be elected in that District to the school board or governing body first.
Still though , most districts follow the federal holiday schedule, roughly.
Finally, specific to what you have shared about 6 days notice, I think that is just for shock value as well as the statement that followed.
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Now having watched the video, certainly seems as out of the ordinary procedure of how things are done.
Also the fact that they can have those days off excused is a reasonable accomodation imo. IN addition to havng the normally scheduled days off, so inessence they are getting more excused days off than others.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Just read over this bit of the thread from earlier and I honestly can't understand why the concern is being raised about the family, if that's all the dirt they can dig up after several days. So the father ran for president of his country - so what? We've got several threads on the AMT about people running for president; we don't necessarily think too highly of some of them, but that doesn't mean we immediately think they're terrorists. So the father defended the Qur'an, his holy book, when some Christian pastor "put it on trial" - so what? That doesn't seem much different than how you, GF, would defend your bible if it were put on trial. So the owner of some sports team called him and his sister helped him out on the phone - so what? I don't think I would have done a great job at 14 talking to a whole bunch of strangers I'd never met who were quizzing me about what I'd done to get suspended from school.
No, it doesn't "make a little more sense". It makes no sense as far as I can see to try to make a case out of such flimsy evidence.
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The line the news is playing is "We will be the Majority soon".
It is not a line the news is playing. It happened. You are spinning.
Yeah PJFan,WTF are you talking about.I didn't offer an opinion let alone spin anything.Its the caption on the video. This was on my local CBS affiliate news here in FL.Its A NJ story.So it must have legs.Not sure your angle here?
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
a) he made a clock
b) it resembled a bomb
c) it was mounted in a briefcase
so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?
Godfather.
ps. don't even try making a toy Uzi HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Godfather.
The other 2 are objective
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
do you object that he made a clock ?
and it was mounted in a briefcase ?
councilor the evidence clearly shows what appears to be a home made bomb in a brief case.
the prosecution rests, your witness sir.
Godfather.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
A. His name is Mohamed
B. He's Muslim
C. Its Texas, duh
D. All of the above
http://gawker.com/7-kids-not-named-mohamed-who-brought-homemade-clocks-to-1730999866
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just say'n man.
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edit: the 2nd common theme is that they were actually built.
Godfather.
Think will be answered somewhat if his invitation to WH is revoked.
Godfather.
That could shock you if it was plugged into a wall socket.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
The more this is marinating and lingering the more I'm questioning who is ultimately wrong here.
This article from 7 days ago talks about his build. Their take on it is far less nefarious than some on here would like to believe. No big conspiracy here guys, put away the pitch forks and find another Muslim to go after in your spare time.....because that's what this is starting to sound like....a witch hunt.
http://makezine.com/2015/09/16/this-is-ahmed-mohameds-clock/
Also the kid wasn't arrested and suspended for having a gadget that could "shock someone". He was arrested on suspicion of having a bomb. Stop trying to change the narrative.
Also, if it was clearly only electronics, I don't see why we should ignore the teachers negligence in not spotting a clear safety risk. That would provide evidence that they were competent. That they couldn't identify the safety risk, shows that there were incompetent. Thus, laying the ground work that an English teacher may have worried that the device was an potential bomb.
We wouldn't be having this discussion otherwise.
In NJ the Muslim community at this school district wants a Muslim holiday with 6 days notice.Things get heated and it hits the news.The line the news is playing is "We will be the Majority soon".
Im assuming it will bother some and others will support the issue.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/video-muslims-taunt-nj-school-officials-were-going-to-be-the-majority-soon/
Anyone from that area have any insight?
Even if its a local issue , they woulld have ot be elected in that District to the school board or governing body first.
Still though , most districts follow the federal holiday schedule, roughly.
Finally, specific to what you have shared about 6 days notice, I think that is just for shock value as well as the statement that followed.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Also the fact that they can have those days off excused is a reasonable accomodation imo. IN addition to havng the normally scheduled days off, so inessence they are getting more excused days off than others.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
No, it doesn't "make a little more sense". It makes no sense as far as I can see to try to make a case out of such flimsy evidence.
It happened.
You are spinning.
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This was on my local CBS affiliate news here in FL.Its A NJ story.So it must have legs.Not sure your angle here?