The Echoes Of Ahmed's Clock In Muslim History

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236

    mickeyrat said:

    dignin said:

    I don't know why I even bothered taking the time to read that "article". What nonsense garbage.
    your opinion is your opinion, can you without any doubt disprove any of that article ?

    Godfather.
    Can you prove any of it? Nothing more than conjecture in large part.
    hahha I was waiting for someone to past that comment, I posted the link the burden of proof is on you (as I back out slowly)

    I'm willing to bet this horse and pony show about the poor kid and his "clock" gets better.....aaaaand I'm willing to bet daddy has a little to do with it, there, that's my conjecture can you prove me wrong LOL !!!

    Godfather.

    You posted this from the fair and balanced channel yet a few days ago I posted the same in this thread and MORE that this could be a fraud yet not a word from you then. Why is that?

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  • Godfather.
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    Jason P said:
    oh yeah.....he made that for sure....in a briefcase ? WTF ????? HAHAHHAHHAHHAH !!!!!!!

    Godfather.

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,426

    mickeyrat said:

    dignin said:

    I don't know why I even bothered taking the time to read that "article". What nonsense garbage.
    your opinion is your opinion, can you without any doubt disprove any of that article ?

    Godfather.
    Can you prove any of it? Nothing more than conjecture in large part.
    hahha I was waiting for someone to past that comment, I posted the link the burden of proof is on you (as I back out slowly)

    I'm willing to bet this horse and pony show about the poor kid and his "clock" gets better.....aaaaand I'm willing to bet daddy has a little to do with it, there, that's my conjecture can you prove me wrong LOL !!!

    Godfather.

    No. Burden on you as the "prosecutor" putting forth these ideas. Otherwise its a troll posting.
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  • Jason P said:
    What's more likely?

    A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?

    Or

    B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?

  • And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?

    Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
    Doubts raised does not a scandle make.
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  • hedonist
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    And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?

    Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
    Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).

    I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.

    And GF - facts, not speculation?
  • Jason P
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    Jason P said:
    What's more likely?

    A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?

    Or

    B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?

    I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,426
    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:
    What's more likely?

    A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?

    Or

    B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?

    I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.
    Did he claim to have invented or just built?
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  • Jason P said:

    Jason P said:
    What's more likely?

    A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?

    Or

    B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?

    I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.
    Maybe so, but he's just a kid. I'd be in deep shit if I was judged on the things I did when I was fourteen. Hahaha
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    mickeyrat said:

    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:
    What's more likely?

    A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?

    Or

    B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?

    I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.
    Did he claim to have invented or just built?
    In that case he is a fraudulent builder.

    I can't just staple my computer to a wall and say "Hey, look at the computer I built!".
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  • g under p
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    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:
    What's more likely?

    A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?

    Or

    B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?

    I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.
    I do NOT believe Ahmed EVER said he invented that clock. I believe he said he BUILT that clock...whether from parts of another clock possibly but I'm pretty sure he said he *built* that clock.

    Peace
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  • Godfather.
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    hedonist said:

    And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?

    Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
    Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).

    I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.

    And GF - facts, not speculation?
    well my friend what exactly are the fact's ?
    a) he made a clock
    b) it resembled a bomb
    c) it was mounted in a briefcase

    so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Jason P said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Jason P said:

    Jason P said:
    What's more likely?

    A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?

    Or

    B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?

    I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.
    Did he claim to have invented or just built?
    In that case he is a fraudulent builder.

    I can't just staple my computer to a wall and say "Hey, look at the computer I built!".
    if you were a high school muslim boy you could because you'd have the power of political correctness on your side...no go staple that computer to the wall ! LOL !!
    ps. don't even try making a toy Uzi HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

    Godfather.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,426

    hedonist said:

    And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?

    Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
    Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).

    I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.

    And GF - facts, not speculation?
    well my friend what exactly are the fact's ?
    a) he made a clock
    b) it resembled a bomb
    c) it was mounted in a briefcase

    so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?

    Godfather.

    B is an opinion. Subjective.

    The other 2 are objective
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mickeyrat said:

    hedonist said:

    And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?

    Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
    Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).

    I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.

    And GF - facts, not speculation?
    well my friend what exactly are the fact's ?
    a) he made a clock
    b) it resembled a bomb
    c) it was mounted in a briefcase

    so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?

    Godfather.

    B is an opinion. Subjective.

    The other 2 are objective
    o.k. Perry Mason LOL !
    do you object that he made a clock ?
    and it was mounted in a briefcase ?
    councilor the evidence clearly shows what appears to be a home made bomb in a brief case.
    the prosecution rests, your witness sir.

    Godfather.



  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236

    mickeyrat said:

    hedonist said:

    And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?

    Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
    Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).

    I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.

    And GF - facts, not speculation?
    well my friend what exactly are the fact's ?
    a) he made a clock
    b) it resembled a bomb
    c) it was mounted in a briefcase

    so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?

    Godfather.

    B is an opinion. Subjective.

    The other 2 are objective
    o.k. Perry Mason LOL !
    do you object that he made a clock ?
    and it was mounted in a briefcase ?
    councilor the evidence clearly shows what appears to be a home made bomb in a brief case.
    the prosecution rests, your witness sir.

    Godfather.



    Lol, one thing....an important ingredient appears to be missing for it to appear to be a bomb....where are the explosives..plastique or C4?

    Peace



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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • So, what is the difference between the seven mentioned in the linked article and this kid in Texas?

    A. His name is Mohamed
    B. He's Muslim
    C. Its Texas, duh
    D. All of the above

    http://gawker.com/7-kids-not-named-mohamed-who-brought-homemade-clocks-to-1730999866
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  • Godfather.
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    So, what is the difference between the seven mentioned in the linked article and this kid in Texas?

    A. His name is Mohamed
    B. He's Muslim
    C. Its Texas, duh
    D. All of the above

    http://gawker.com/7-kids-not-named-mohamed-who-brought-homemade-clocks-to-1730999866

    your honor I call for a retraction of that statement, the boys heritage and home are not on trial here.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
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    g under p said:

    mickeyrat said:

    hedonist said:

    And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?

    Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
    Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).

    I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.

    And GF - facts, not speculation?
    well my friend what exactly are the fact's ?
    a) he made a clock
    b) it resembled a bomb
    c) it was mounted in a briefcase

    so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?

    Godfather.

    B is an opinion. Subjective.

    The other 2 are objective
    o.k. Perry Mason LOL !
    do you object that he made a clock ?
    and it was mounted in a briefcase ?
    councilor the evidence clearly shows what appears to be a home made bomb in a brief case.
    the prosecution rests, your witness sir.

    Godfather.



    Lol, one thing....an important ingredient appears to be missing for it to appear to be a bomb....where are the explosives..plastique or C4?

    Peace



    I'll have a CSI and bomb disposal team report on that. LOL !!!!

    Godfather.
  • Then what is?
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