The threat of intelligent Muslim kids!

HughFreakingDillon

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

1) the teachers at the school acted as they should have. again, had this actually been a bomb, they'd be called heros, not idiots or bigots.
2) I can't comment, nor can really any of you to any factual accuracy, that being muslim had anything to do with how he was treated. saying things like "being a muslim in texas" is just as prejudiced as what you are accusing others here of
3) I have no idea why the cops needed to question him for 4 hours after it was found to just be a clock. maybe they thought if he could build this, maybe this was a precursor to him building something more dangerous. who knows. everything being put forth here is pure conjecture.
4) if they were detaining him under the patriot act or whatever it is, they were not lawfully bound to call his parents or give him access to a lawyer. it sucks, but that's the way it is. I don't agree with that law in the slightest, but it's the law and they acted within the confines of it.
5) as a parent, I'd be beyond furious. but there doesn't seem to be any basis for a lawsuit, from what we currently know.

point 2

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-9th-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece

alright, one possible racist cop in the mix after he was already detained. but we can't say for sure either way if the reaction he got at the school was in any way race-related.

after reading the article you posted, I'm unsure as to why he was suspended. My guess is the principal wants to send a message to the student body not to bring unknown objects to school, not necessarily punish Ahmed.

badbrains

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.

What difference does it make what it looked like? A figure of authority, the teacher, thought it was a bomb. It really makes no difference what it looked like.

Wrong, again. The first teacher he showed it to knew it was a fucken clock. I just want to see what it looks like before they got their hands on it. You know, to see what it looked like before they made it look like a bomb.

g under p

Let me make a correction.....I don't believe Ahmed was interrogated for 4 hours, I believe it was an hour and a half according to Ahmed. I think after the interrogation and the subsequent departure from school to the police station the totality appears to be 4 hours. That is after his parents were called and Ahmed was back with his parents.

Watch him say so in this MSNBC interview.....

http://youtu.be/OkCRA-Aoq5U

Peace

hedonist

Over these last couple of pages, I tend to lean toward Hugh's & Thirty's perspectives.

Despite one officer's supposed comment (which was after he was arrested?), I don't know if Ahmed being Muslim was a factor in this, but I don't think so.

Also, the "little Muslim" comment that was made earlier is eye-opening, as was someone else's comment on another, albeit unrelated, thread about "beating them back".

Still, true colors - always good to see.

badbrains

Again, G under P posted a link to an article that had a white kid who built a nuclear reactor. Was that kid arrested or interrogated for 1 1/2 hrs? No, he was given a scholarship. Wake up

Last-12-Exit

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.

What difference does it make what it looked like? A figure of authority, the teacher, thought it was a bomb. It really makes no difference what it looked like.

Wrong, again. The first teacher he showed it to knew it was a fucken clock. I just want to see what it looks like before they got their hands on it. You know, to see what it looked like before they made it look like a bomb.

And the second teacher heard the thing beeping and got worried. So what?

HughFreakingDillon

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.

What difference does it make what it looked like? A figure of authority, the teacher, thought it was a bomb. It really makes no difference what it looked like.

Wrong, again. The first teacher he showed it to knew it was a fucken clock. I just want to see what it looks like before they got their hands on it. You know, to see what it looked like before they made it look like a bomb.

but that teacher also warned him about showing it to other teachers, as they might not have the same keen eye for what it actually was. keep in mind, this was most likely not a clock you buy at walmart. I'm sure it also wasn't a clock tied to dynamite sticks that Wil E Coyote buys from Acme, but still, I could see why the other teachers would be more than alarmed (pun intended).

badbrains

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.

What difference does it make what it looked like? A figure of authority, the teacher, thought it was a bomb. It really makes no difference what it looked like.

Wrong, again. The first teacher he showed it to knew it was a fucken clock. I just want to see what it looks like before they got their hands on it. You know, to see what it looked like before they made it look like a bomb.

And the second teacher heard the thing beeping and got worried. So what?

And after 2 mins they asked the first teacher and he said it's a clock. Your point is?

g under p

HughFreakingDillon said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

1) the teachers at the school acted as they should have. again, had this actually been a bomb, they'd be called heros, not idiots or bigots.
2) I can't comment, nor can really any of you to any factual accuracy, that being muslim had anything to do with how he was treated. saying things like "being a muslim in texas" is just as prejudiced as what you are accusing others here of
3) I have no idea why the cops needed to question him for 4 hours after it was found to just be a clock. maybe they thought if he could build this, maybe this was a precursor to him building something more dangerous. who knows. everything being put forth here is pure conjecture.
4) if they were detaining him under the patriot act or whatever it is, they were not lawfully bound to call his parents or give him access to a lawyer. it sucks, but that's the way it is. I don't agree with that law in the slightest, but it's the law and they acted within the confines of it.
5) as a parent, I'd be beyond furious. but there doesn't seem to be any basis for a lawsuit, from what we currently know.

point 2

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-9th-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece

alright, one possible racist cop in the mix after he was already detained. but we can't say for sure either way if the reaction he got at the school was in any way race-related.

after reading the article you posted, I'm unsure as to why he was suspended. My guess is the principal wants to send a message to the student body not to bring unknown objects to school, not necessarily punish Ahmed.

He was suspended for bringing a device perceived to be a threat to school, aka: a bomb. He was arrested for bringing a hoax bomb to school.

Peace

HughFreakingDillon

g under p said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

1) the teachers at the school acted as they should have. again, had this actually been a bomb, they'd be called heros, not idiots or bigots.
2) I can't comment, nor can really any of you to any factual accuracy, that being muslim had anything to do with how he was treated. saying things like "being a muslim in texas" is just as prejudiced as what you are accusing others here of
3) I have no idea why the cops needed to question him for 4 hours after it was found to just be a clock. maybe they thought if he could build this, maybe this was a precursor to him building something more dangerous. who knows. everything being put forth here is pure conjecture.
4) if they were detaining him under the patriot act or whatever it is, they were not lawfully bound to call his parents or give him access to a lawyer. it sucks, but that's the way it is. I don't agree with that law in the slightest, but it's the law and they acted within the confines of it.
5) as a parent, I'd be beyond furious. but there doesn't seem to be any basis for a lawsuit, from what we currently know.

point 2

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-9th-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece

alright, one possible racist cop in the mix after he was already detained. but we can't say for sure either way if the reaction he got at the school was in any way race-related.

after reading the article you posted, I'm unsure as to why he was suspended. My guess is the principal wants to send a message to the student body not to bring unknown objects to school, not necessarily punish Ahmed.

He was suspended for bringing a device perceived to be a threat to school, aka: a bomb. He was arrested for bringing a hoax bomb to school.

Peace

yeah, I realize the official explanation as to the suspension, I was more speaking to the actual intent of the suspension.

Last-12-Exit

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.

What difference does it make what it looked like? A figure of authority, the teacher, thought it was a bomb. It really makes no difference what it looked like.

Wrong, again. The first teacher he showed it to knew it was a fucken clock. I just want to see what it looks like before they got their hands on it. You know, to see what it looked like before they made it look like a bomb.

And the second teacher heard the thing beeping and got worried. So what?

And after 2 mins they asked the first teacher and he said it's a clock. Your point is?

Lol, what's your point? Mine is pretty obvious. The second teacher wanted to make sure the last beep wasn't going to blow them into the sky. It's really not as big of a deal as you guys are making it out to be.

This is clearly an example of somebody looking out for the safety of the school. If you want to play the race card, fine. But it is obvious to me that there were no laws broken and the kid was not violated. The only problem I have is that he remained suspended after be was cleared. And that's clearly not a police issue.

badbrains

HughFreakingDillon said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.

What difference does it make what it looked like? A figure of authority, the teacher, thought it was a bomb. It really makes no difference what it looked like.

Wrong, again. The first teacher he showed it to knew it was a fucken clock. I just want to see what it looks like before they got their hands on it. You know, to see what it looked like before they made it look like a bomb.

but that teacher also warned him about showing it to other teachers, as they might not have the same keen eye for what it actually was. keep in mind, this was most likely not a clock you buy at walmart. I'm sure it also wasn't a clock tied to dynamite sticks that Wil E Coyote buys from Acme, but still, I could see why the other teachers would be more than alarmed (pun intended).

I fully understand that hugh, but 1 1/2 hrs investigating and then to haul him off in handcuffs? Come on man. Let's be real here. Why is everyone conveniently forgetting the story G under P posted about the white kid who built a fucken nuclear reactor? amazing

Last-12-Exit

badbrains said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.

What difference does it make what it looked like? A figure of authority, the teacher, thought it was a bomb. It really makes no difference what it looked like.

Wrong, again. The first teacher he showed it to knew it was a fucken clock. I just want to see what it looks like before they got their hands on it. You know, to see what it looked like before they made it look like a bomb.

but that teacher also warned him about showing it to other teachers, as they might not have the same keen eye for what it actually was. keep in mind, this was most likely not a clock you buy at walmart. I'm sure it also wasn't a clock tied to dynamite sticks that Wil E Coyote buys from Acme, but still, I could see why the other teachers would be more than alarmed (pun intended).

I fully understand that hugh, but 1 1/2 hrs investigating and then to haul him off in handcuffs? Come on man. Let's be real here. Why is everyone conveniently forgetting the story G under P posted about the white kid who built a fucken nuclear reactor? amazing

This is IRRELEVANT.

badbrains

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.

What difference does it make what it looked like? A figure of authority, the teacher, thought it was a bomb. It really makes no difference what it looked like.

Wrong, again. The first teacher he showed it to knew it was a fucken clock. I just want to see what it looks like before they got their hands on it. You know, to see what it looked like before they made it look like a bomb.

And the second teacher heard the thing beeping and got worried. So what?

And after 2 mins they asked the first teacher and he said it's a clock. Your point is?

Lol, what's your point? Mine is pretty obvious. The second teacher wanted to make sure the last beep wasn't going to blow them into the sky. It's really not as big of a deal as you guys are making it out to be.

This is clearly an example of somebody looking out for the safety of the school. If you want to play the race card, fine. But it is obvious to me that there were no laws broken and the kid was not violated. The only problem I have is that he remained suspended after be was cleared. And that's clearly not a police issue.

Then why WASNT the bomb squad contacted? Pretty simple request if you think it's a bomb and want to save the kids. They should've been called before the cops.

badbrains

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.

What difference does it make what it looked like? A figure of authority, the teacher, thought it was a bomb. It really makes no difference what it looked like.

Wrong, again. The first teacher he showed it to knew it was a fucken clock. I just want to see what it looks like before they got their hands on it. You know, to see what it looked like before they made it look like a bomb.

but that teacher also warned him about showing it to other teachers, as they might not have the same keen eye for what it actually was. keep in mind, this was most likely not a clock you buy at walmart. I'm sure it also wasn't a clock tied to dynamite sticks that Wil E Coyote buys from Acme, but still, I could see why the other teachers would be more than alarmed (pun intended).

I fully understand that hugh, but 1 1/2 hrs investigating and then to haul him off in handcuffs? Come on man. Let's be real here. Why is everyone conveniently forgetting the story G under P posted about the white kid who built a fucken nuclear reactor? amazing

This is IRRELEVANT.

You're IRRELEVANT

badbrains

Wait, let me get this straight. White Kid builds a nuclear reactor and gets a scholarship, brown Muslim kid builds a clock, gets handcuffed. And this is IRRELEVANT? Haha, now that's funny

HughFreakingDillon

badbrains said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

badbrains said:

Last-12-Exit said:

badbrains said:

Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.

What difference does it make what it looked like? A figure of authority, the teacher, thought it was a bomb. It really makes no difference what it looked like.

Wrong, again. The first teacher he showed it to knew it was a fucken clock. I just want to see what it looks like before they got their hands on it. You know, to see what it looked like before they made it look like a bomb.

but that teacher also warned him about showing it to other teachers, as they might not have the same keen eye for what it actually was. keep in mind, this was most likely not a clock you buy at walmart. I'm sure it also wasn't a clock tied to dynamite sticks that Wil E Coyote buys from Acme, but still, I could see why the other teachers would be more than alarmed (pun intended).

I fully understand that hugh, but 1 1/2 hrs investigating and then to haul him off in handcuffs? Come on man. Let's be real here. Why is everyone conveniently forgetting the story G under P posted about the white kid who built a fucken nuclear reactor? amazing

he didn't bring it to school. after the fact, Ahmed is getting the same type of treatment as the nuclear kid.

badbrains

Not for nothing but I'm sure as hell glad some of you aren't my parents. Just as I'm sure you guys are super stoked I ain't your kid.

Jason P

badbrains said:

Wait, let me get this straight. White Kid builds a nuclear reactor and gets a scholarship, brown Muslim kid builds a clock, gets handcuffed. And this is IRRELEVANT? Haha, now that's funny

Did he take the nuclear reactor to school in his backpack?

HughFreakingDillon

badbrains said:

Not for nothing but I'm sure as hell glad some of you aren't my parents. Just as I'm sure you guys are super stoked I ain't your kid.

I don't think that was necessary.