The threat of intelligent Muslim kids!
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HAHHAHHHAHAHHAHA !!!!! the bigot call ! but.....Neanderthal is new, I would like to politely state that there some people on this forum that are too soft hearted for their own good, the world is not what you've created in this little space called the train all daisy's and sunshine, there are kids in the world that under 14 years old can kill with no remorse, kids that have taken guns to school and killed, in San Diego yesterday 6 schools where locked down because of bomb threats, it might do all some good to understand what kind of caution and even paranoia has been created because of the attacks and threats since 9-11, you all want so bad for everybody to listen and understand your side of the story yet have no interest obviously in understanding anybody else's concerns, and retaliate with childish replies like bigot..... but this is my favorite so far, "...you are a Neanderthal just like two or three others here .... " name calling is always a last act of defiance here on the train and the creativeness is impressive, so carry on you barbarians of political correctness, go and save the world !
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Anything to exonerate police! Broken record.Last-12-Exit said:
He most certainly does have the right to be silent. But remember, he wasn't under arrest at that time. What's so bad about a kid being questioned about a suspicious device? You guys are throwing the race card around a little too quickly in my opinion. This kid wasn't beaten, or abused.badbrains said:I hope this kid gets the BEST civil rights lawyer or top dog out there and sues the shit out of the town, police department and state. These idiots won't learn until it starts costing the town and state money. Fuck these bigot assholes.
And I just saw the chief of police on Chris Hayes actually say that when they held Ahmad in interrogation, Ahmad didn't have the right to his parents or lawyer being there. There is NO WAY that that can possible be legal. Diesnt everyone have the right to remain silent and talk to a lawyer. Tell me I'm not wrong. Is this real? No fucken way that that's the law.
He can get the best lawyer in the nation and he still won't sue. Nothing illegal was done to him. I don't know what the protocols are for detaining a suspect, but it doesn't appear that anything here was done illegally.
I don't know why the anger of this kids parents have anything to do with this. Of course they were angry. Of course they were scared. So what? The question here is did the police do something wrong? I say they didn't.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I would also argue that the world is a bit different from your idiotic paranoid (bigoted) world.Godfather. said:HAHHAHHHAHAHHAHA !!!!! the bigot call ! but.....Neanderthal is new, I would like to politely state that there some people on this forum that are too soft hearted for their own good, the world is not what you've created in this little space called the train all daisy's and sunshine, there are kids in the world that under 14 years old can kill with no remorse, kids that have taken guns to school and killed, in San Diego yesterday 6 schools where locked down because of bomb threats, it might do all some good to understand what kind of caution and even paranoia has been created because of the attacks and threats since 9-11, you all want so bad for everybody to listen and understand your side of the story yet have no interest obviously in understanding anybody else's concerns, and retaliate with childish replies like bigot..... but this is my favorite so far, "...you are a Neanderthal just like two or three others here .... " name calling is always a last act of defiance here on the train and the creativeness is impressive, so carry on you barbarians of political correctness, go and save the world !
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Anything to blame the police for the obvious lack of parental guidance of this little darling. Now that's a broken record. But hey, he now gets to break bread w/ Barry. I can't wait to see the picture of them around that clock.rgambs said:
Anything to exonerate police! Broken record.Last-12-Exit said:
He most certainly does have the right to be silent. But remember, he wasn't under arrest at that time. What's so bad about a kid being questioned about a suspicious device? You guys are throwing the race card around a little too quickly in my opinion. This kid wasn't beaten, or abused.badbrains said:I hope this kid gets the BEST civil rights lawyer or top dog out there and sues the shit out of the town, police department and state. These idiots won't learn until it starts costing the town and state money. Fuck these bigot assholes.
And I just saw the chief of police on Chris Hayes actually say that when they held Ahmad in interrogation, Ahmad didn't have the right to his parents or lawyer being there. There is NO WAY that that can possible be legal. Diesnt everyone have the right to remain silent and talk to a lawyer. Tell me I'm not wrong. Is this real? No fucken way that that's the law.
He can get the best lawyer in the nation and he still won't sue. Nothing illegal was done to him. I don't know what the protocols are for detaining a suspect, but it doesn't appear that anything here was done illegally.
I don't know why the anger of this kids parents have anything to do with this. Of course they were angry. Of course they were scared. So what? The question here is did the police do something wrong? I say they didn't.0 -
The title of this thread is 'The threat of intelligent Muslim kids'.josevolution said:
Just the fact you called this poor little offended Muslim is repulsive , how about calling himPJfanwillneverleave1 said:People need to step back and look at the big picture.
Once you have a suspicion of a bomb you don't get "someone else" to check that is not qualified(science teacher)
Bomb squads check for you - no one else can make the determination otherwise once a suspicious device is at the attention.
The only mistake done here is not calling the bomb squad and immediately evacuating.
No ones rights were violated whatsoever.
"Uh, excuse me Mr. Science teacher I feel like this may be a bomb. Can you check it for me"?
Any normal person would say fuck you check it yourself. - or call the police, whatever suits your fancy.
The situation was cleared up, no one was hurt. Now the kid is making international friends at a ferocious pace. Sounds like the poor little offended muslim is doing allright. Good for him.
The suspension should still stand. Rules are rules at school. We all know that. When we are away we trust others with our kids at school.
This outrage is ridiculous, get over it.
By his name
Just the fact that you don't even address him by his name Ahmed is enough to see your bigotry , Poor little offended Muslim this is what you wrote ...you are a Neanderthal just like two or three others here ....PJfanwillneverleave1 said:People need to step back and look at the big picture.
Once you have a suspicion of a bomb you don't get "someone else" to check that is not qualified(science teacher)
Bomb squads check for you - no one else can make the determination otherwise once a suspicious device is at the attention.
The only mistake done here is not calling the bomb squad and immediately evacuating.
No ones rights were violated whatsoever.
"Uh, excuse me Mr. Science teacher I feel like this may be a bomb. Can you check it for me"?
Any normal person would say fuck you check it yourself. - or call the police, whatever suits your fancy.
The situation was cleared up, no one was hurt. Now the kid is making international friends at a ferocious pace. Sounds like the poor little offended muslim is doing allright. Good for him.
The suspension should still stand. Rules are rules at school. We all know that. When we are away we trust others with our kids at school.
This outrage is ridiculous, get over it.
As such... your name calling is off base.
You might not like the perspective PJFan is offering, however I'm not so sure some can say 'his crime was being brown' or 'anyone other than a Muslim wouldn't have been bothered' (to applause no less)... while someone with a counter position suggesting race has been overplayed gets jeered and insulted."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
very well put.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
The title of this thread is 'The threat of intelligent Muslim kids'.josevolution said:
Just the fact you called this poor little offended Muslim is repulsive , how about calling himPJfanwillneverleave1 said:People need to step back and look at the big picture.
Once you have a suspicion of a bomb you don't get "someone else" to check that is not qualified(science teacher)
Bomb squads check for you - no one else can make the determination otherwise once a suspicious device is at the attention.
The only mistake done here is not calling the bomb squad and immediately evacuating.
No ones rights were violated whatsoever.
"Uh, excuse me Mr. Science teacher I feel like this may be a bomb. Can you check it for me"?
Any normal person would say fuck you check it yourself. - or call the police, whatever suits your fancy.
The situation was cleared up, no one was hurt. Now the kid is making international friends at a ferocious pace. Sounds like the poor little offended muslim is doing allright. Good for him.
The suspension should still stand. Rules are rules at school. We all know that. When we are away we trust others with our kids at school.
This outrage is ridiculous, get over it.
By his name
Just the fact that you don't even address him by his name Ahmed is enough to see your bigotry , Poor little offended Muslim this is what you wrote ...you are a Neanderthal just like two or three others here ....PJfanwillneverleave1 said:People need to step back and look at the big picture.
Once you have a suspicion of a bomb you don't get "someone else" to check that is not qualified(science teacher)
Bomb squads check for you - no one else can make the determination otherwise once a suspicious device is at the attention.
The only mistake done here is not calling the bomb squad and immediately evacuating.
No ones rights were violated whatsoever.
"Uh, excuse me Mr. Science teacher I feel like this may be a bomb. Can you check it for me"?
Any normal person would say fuck you check it yourself. - or call the police, whatever suits your fancy.
The situation was cleared up, no one was hurt. Now the kid is making international friends at a ferocious pace. Sounds like the poor little offended muslim is doing allright. Good for him.
The suspension should still stand. Rules are rules at school. We all know that. When we are away we trust others with our kids at school.
This outrage is ridiculous, get over it.
As such... your name calling is off base.
You might not like the perspective PJFan is offering, however I'm not so sure some can say 'his crime was being brown' or 'anyone other than a Muslim wouldn't have been bothered' (to applause no less)... while someone with a counter position suggesting race has been overplayed gets jeered and insulted.
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1) the teachers at the school acted as they should have. again, had this actually been a bomb, they'd be called heros, not idiots or bigots.
2) I can't comment, nor can really any of you to any factual accuracy, that being muslim had anything to do with how he was treated. saying things like "being a muslim in texas" is just as prejudiced as what you are accusing others here of
3) I have no idea why the cops needed to question him for 4 hours after it was found to just be a clock. maybe they thought if he could build this, maybe this was a precursor to him building something more dangerous. who knows. everything being put forth here is pure conjecture.
4) if they were detaining him under the patriot act or whatever it is, they were not lawfully bound to call his parents or give him access to a lawyer. it sucks, but that's the way it is. I don't agree with that law in the slightest, but it's the law and they acted within the confines of it.
5) as a parent, I'd be beyond furious. but there doesn't seem to be any basis for a lawsuit, from what we currently know.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
wake up and smell the coffee cliffyCliffy6745 said:
I would also argue that the world is a bit different from your idiotic paranoid (bigoted) world.Godfather. said:HAHHAHHHAHAHHAHA !!!!! the bigot call ! but.....Neanderthal is new, I would like to politely state that there some people on this forum that are too soft hearted for their own good, the world is not what you've created in this little space called the train all daisy's and sunshine, there are kids in the world that under 14 years old can kill with no remorse, kids that have taken guns to school and killed, in San Diego yesterday 6 schools where locked down because of bomb threats, it might do all some good to understand what kind of caution and even paranoia has been created because of the attacks and threats since 9-11, you all want so bad for everybody to listen and understand your side of the story yet have no interest obviously in understanding anybody else's concerns, and retaliate with childish replies like bigot..... but this is my favorite so far, "...you are a Neanderthal just like two or three others here .... " name calling is always a last act of defiance here on the train and the creativeness is impressive, so carry on you barbarians of political correctness, go and save the world !
Godfather.
Godfather.
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6) and Obama reaching out to the kid is nothing more than a PR move. that's what the POTUS does. ease racial tensions before they get out of control where possible.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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Lack of parental guidance?muskydan said:
Anything to blame the police for the obvious lack of parental guidance of this little darling. Now that's a broken record. But hey, he now gets to break bread w/ Barry. I can't wait to see the picture of them around that clock.rgambs said:
Anything to exonerate police! Broken record.Last-12-Exit said:
He most certainly does have the right to be silent. But remember, he wasn't under arrest at that time. What's so bad about a kid being questioned about a suspicious device? You guys are throwing the race card around a little too quickly in my opinion. This kid wasn't beaten, or abused.badbrains said:I hope this kid gets the BEST civil rights lawyer or top dog out there and sues the shit out of the town, police department and state. These idiots won't learn until it starts costing the town and state money. Fuck these bigot assholes.
And I just saw the chief of police on Chris Hayes actually say that when they held Ahmad in interrogation, Ahmad didn't have the right to his parents or lawyer being there. There is NO WAY that that can possible be legal. Diesnt everyone have the right to remain silent and talk to a lawyer. Tell me I'm not wrong. Is this real? No fucken way that that's the law.
He can get the best lawyer in the nation and he still won't sue. Nothing illegal was done to him. I don't know what the protocols are for detaining a suspect, but it doesn't appear that anything here was done illegally.
I don't know why the anger of this kids parents have anything to do with this. Of course they were angry. Of course they were scared. So what? The question here is did the police do something wrong? I say they didn't.
For building a digital clock?
Seriously?
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point 2HughFreakingDillon said:1) the teachers at the school acted as they should have. again, had this actually been a bomb, they'd be called heros, not idiots or bigots.
2) I can't comment, nor can really any of you to any factual accuracy, that being muslim had anything to do with how he was treated. saying things like "being a muslim in texas" is just as prejudiced as what you are accusing others here of
3) I have no idea why the cops needed to question him for 4 hours after it was found to just be a clock. maybe they thought if he could build this, maybe this was a precursor to him building something more dangerous. who knows. everything being put forth here is pure conjecture.
4) if they were detaining him under the patriot act or whatever it is, they were not lawfully bound to call his parents or give him access to a lawyer. it sucks, but that's the way it is. I don't agree with that law in the slightest, but it's the law and they acted within the confines of it.
5) as a parent, I'd be beyond furious. but there doesn't seem to be any basis for a lawsuit, from what we currently know.
They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-9th-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece
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If anyone had a lack of parental guidance growing up id say it was you. Unless of course the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and your family is full of bigots.muskydan said:
Anything to blame the police for the obvious lack of parental guidance of this little darling. Now that's a broken record. But hey, he now gets to break bread w/ Barry. I can't wait to see the picture of them around that clock.rgambs said:
Anything to exonerate police! Broken record.Last-12-Exit said:
He most certainly does have the right to be silent. But remember, he wasn't under arrest at that time. What's so bad about a kid being questioned about a suspicious device? You guys are throwing the race card around a little too quickly in my opinion. This kid wasn't beaten, or abused.badbrains said:I hope this kid gets the BEST civil rights lawyer or top dog out there and sues the shit out of the town, police department and state. These idiots won't learn until it starts costing the town and state money. Fuck these bigot assholes.
And I just saw the chief of police on Chris Hayes actually say that when they held Ahmad in interrogation, Ahmad didn't have the right to his parents or lawyer being there. There is NO WAY that that can possible be legal. Diesnt everyone have the right to remain silent and talk to a lawyer. Tell me I'm not wrong. Is this real? No fucken way that that's the law.
He can get the best lawyer in the nation and he still won't sue. Nothing illegal was done to him. I don't know what the protocols are for detaining a suspect, but it doesn't appear that anything here was done illegally.
I don't know why the anger of this kids parents have anything to do with this. Of course they were angry. Of course they were scared. So what? The question here is did the police do something wrong? I say they didn't.0 -
HahahaGodfather. said:
wake up and smell the coffee cliffyCliffy6745 said:
I would also argue that the world is a bit different from your idiotic paranoid (bigoted) world.Godfather. said:HAHHAHHHAHAHHAHA !!!!! the bigot call ! but.....Neanderthal is new, I would like to politely state that there some people on this forum that are too soft hearted for their own good, the world is not what you've created in this little space called the train all daisy's and sunshine, there are kids in the world that under 14 years old can kill with no remorse, kids that have taken guns to school and killed, in San Diego yesterday 6 schools where locked down because of bomb threats, it might do all some good to understand what kind of caution and even paranoia has been created because of the attacks and threats since 9-11, you all want so bad for everybody to listen and understand your side of the story yet have no interest obviously in understanding anybody else's concerns, and retaliate with childish replies like bigot..... but this is my favorite so far, "...you are a Neanderthal just like two or three others here .... " name calling is always a last act of defiance here on the train and the creativeness is impressive, so carry on you barbarians of political correctness, go and save the world !
Godfather.
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AgreedHughFreakingDillon said:6) and Obama reaching out to the kid is nothing more than a PR move. that's what the POTUS does. ease racial tensions before they get out of control where possible.
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Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.0
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I'm not sure why the police are being ragged on here.They HAVE TO respond when the school called.This is on school admin and staff.Cops didn't press charges.When things were figured out he was let go.muskydan said:
Anything to blame the police for the obvious lack of parental guidance of this little darling. Now that's a broken record. But hey, he now gets to break bread w/ Barry. I can't wait to see the picture of them around that clock.rgambs said:
Anything to exonerate police! Broken record.Last-12-Exit said:
He most certainly does have the right to be silent. But remember, he wasn't under arrest at that time. What's so bad about a kid being questioned about a suspicious device? You guys are throwing the race card around a little too quickly in my opinion. This kid wasn't beaten, or abused.badbrains said:I hope this kid gets the BEST civil rights lawyer or top dog out there and sues the shit out of the town, police department and state. These idiots won't learn until it starts costing the town and state money. Fuck these bigot assholes.
And I just saw the chief of police on Chris Hayes actually say that when they held Ahmad in interrogation, Ahmad didn't have the right to his parents or lawyer being there. There is NO WAY that that can possible be legal. Diesnt everyone have the right to remain silent and talk to a lawyer. Tell me I'm not wrong. Is this real? No fucken way that that's the law.
He can get the best lawyer in the nation and he still won't sue. Nothing illegal was done to him. I don't know what the protocols are for detaining a suspect, but it doesn't appear that anything here was done illegally.
I don't know why the anger of this kids parents have anything to do with this. Of course they were angry. Of course they were scared. So what? The question here is did the police do something wrong? I say they didn't.
Only a parental call should have been made.But by the principle.0 -
RR, really man? That's what you find funny? You actually think it's cliffy who needs to wake up and smell the coffee? Come on man. Be real. Is this what closet conservatives find funny.rr165892 said:
HahahaGodfather. said:
wake up and smell the coffee cliffyCliffy6745 said:
I would also argue that the world is a bit different from your idiotic paranoid (bigoted) world.Godfather. said:HAHHAHHHAHAHHAHA !!!!! the bigot call ! but.....Neanderthal is new, I would like to politely state that there some people on this forum that are too soft hearted for their own good, the world is not what you've created in this little space called the train all daisy's and sunshine, there are kids in the world that under 14 years old can kill with no remorse, kids that have taken guns to school and killed, in San Diego yesterday 6 schools where locked down because of bomb threats, it might do all some good to understand what kind of caution and even paranoia has been created because of the attacks and threats since 9-11, you all want so bad for everybody to listen and understand your side of the story yet have no interest obviously in understanding anybody else's concerns, and retaliate with childish replies like bigot..... but this is my favorite so far, "...you are a Neanderthal just like two or three others here .... " name calling is always a last act of defiance here on the train and the creativeness is impressive, so carry on you barbarians of political correctness, go and save the world !
Godfather.
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Some good stuff in here GFGodfather. said:HAHHAHHHAHAHHAHA !!!!! the bigot call ! but.....Neanderthal is new, I would like to politely state that there some people on this forum that are too soft hearted for their own good, the world is not what you've created in this little space called the train all daisy's and sunshine, there are kids in the world that under 14 years old can kill with no remorse, kids that have taken guns to school and killed, in San Diego yesterday 6 schools where locked down because of bomb threats, it might do all some good to understand what kind of caution and even paranoia has been created because of the attacks and threats since 9-11, you all want so bad for everybody to listen and understand your side of the story yet have no interest obviously in understanding anybody else's concerns, and retaliate with childish replies like bigot..... but this is my favorite so far, "...you are a Neanderthal just like two or three others here .... " name calling is always a last act of defiance here on the train and the creativeness is impressive, so carry on you barbarians of political correctness, go and save the world !
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They aren't really being ragged on. Nobody has insulted them or called for them to lose their jobs. They have been criticized for holding him for 4 fucking hours of questioning without notifying his parents. Obviously, any parent would be outraged if it was their child, but some people around here refuse to budge an inch where police are involved. Last12 keeps brushing it aside as though it is no big deal, and they did nothing worthy of criticism.rr165892 said:
I'm not sure why the police are being ragged on here.They HAVE TO respond when the school called.This is on school admin and staff.Cops didn't press charges.When things were figured out he was let go.muskydan said:
Anything to blame the police for the obvious lack of parental guidance of this little darling. Now that's a broken record. But hey, he now gets to break bread w/ Barry. I can't wait to see the picture of them around that clock.rgambs said:
Anything to exonerate police! Broken record.Last-12-Exit said:
He most certainly does have the right to be silent. But remember, he wasn't under arrest at that time. What's so bad about a kid being questioned about a suspicious device? You guys are throwing the race card around a little too quickly in my opinion. This kid wasn't beaten, or abused.badbrains said:I hope this kid gets the BEST civil rights lawyer or top dog out there and sues the shit out of the town, police department and state. These idiots won't learn until it starts costing the town and state money. Fuck these bigot assholes.
And I just saw the chief of police on Chris Hayes actually say that when they held Ahmad in interrogation, Ahmad didn't have the right to his parents or lawyer being there. There is NO WAY that that can possible be legal. Diesnt everyone have the right to remain silent and talk to a lawyer. Tell me I'm not wrong. Is this real? No fucken way that that's the law.
He can get the best lawyer in the nation and he still won't sue. Nothing illegal was done to him. I don't know what the protocols are for detaining a suspect, but it doesn't appear that anything here was done illegally.
I don't know why the anger of this kids parents have anything to do with this. Of course they were angry. Of course they were scared. So what? The question here is did the police do something wrong? I say they didn't.
Only a parental call should have been made.But by the principle.
I don't buy it, if it was his kid he wouldn't be so dismissive.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
What difference does it make what it looked like? A figure of authority, the teacher, thought it was a bomb. It really makes no difference what it looked like.badbrains said:Still waiting on how this "bomb" I mean clock looked like before the police got their hands on it. And still waiting on the reason that the bomb squad WASNT called after they saw the "bomb" I mean clock. 4 fucken hours. At least this didn't happen in Chicago where musky would've salivated to take this brown terrorist on a bumpy ride through the streets.
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