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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,761
    mickeyrat said:
    Please don't come on here with provable and verifiable facts and figures. 
    Anyone with less than half a brain knows that numbers, like the weather, have a liberal bias.
  • i just heard on the radio at least 22 dead.

    fuck.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,761
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  • But it’s not the AR15, it’s less than 1% of gun deaths. And it’s way too many doors and not enough thoughts and prayers anyways. ‘Murica, what a country!
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,548
    https://apnews.com/article/lewiston-maine-shootings-49da6d06a8b5a15d3b619b3927bc33ff   Firearms instructor treated at mental health facility is person of interest in Maine shooting: cops

     
    Firearms instructor treated at mental health facility is person of interest in Maine shooting: cops
    By DAVID SHARP
    44 mins ago

    LEWISTON, Maine (AP) — The man identified as a person of interest in a mass killing in Maine is a firearms instructor trained by the military and was recently committed to a mental health facility, according to a state police bulletin.

    The police intelligence bulletin, reviewed by The Associated Press, was being circulated to law enforcement officials on Wednesday night after the shootings that left at least 16 people dead.

    The bulletin says the man, Robert Card, had been trained as a firearms instructor at a U.S. Army Reserve training facility in Maine. The document says Card had been committed to a mental health facility for two weeks in the summer of 2023. It did not provide specific details about his treatment or condition.

    The document also said Card had reported hearing voices and had threatened to carry out a shooting at the military training base in Saco, Maine.

    Card was being sought by police as a person of interest in Wednesday’s shootings. A telephone number listed for Card in public records was not in service.

    Lewiston Police confirmed in a Facebook post that Card was a person of interest in the shooting and said he should be considered armed and dangerous.

    The shootings at a bowling alley and a bar in Lewiston on Wednesday night killed at least 16 people and engulfed the state's second-largest city in chaos. The suspect remained at large as authorities ordered residents and business owners to stay inside and off the streets.

    Two law enforcement officials told The Associated Press dozens of people also had been wounded. The officials were not authorized to publicly discuss details of the ongoing investigation and spoke to AP on condition of anonymity.

    Lewiston Police said in an earlier Facebook post that they were dealing with an active shooter incident at Schemengees Bar and Grille and Sparetime Recreation, a bowling alley about 4 miles (6.4 kilometers) away. The Androscoggin County Sheriff’s Office released two photos of the suspect on its Facebook page that showed a shooter walking into an establishment with a weapon raised to their shoulder.

    “Please stay off the roads to allow emergency responders access to the hospitals,” police said.

    On its website, Central Maine Medical Center said staff were “reacting to a mass casualty, mass shooter event” and were coordinating with area hospitals to take in patients. A woman who answered the phone in the emergency department said no further information could be released and that the hospital itself was on lockdown.

    Melinda Small, the owner of Legends Sports Bar and Grill, said her staff immediately locked their doors and moved all 25 customers and employees away from the doors after a customer reported hearing about the shooting at the bowling alley less than a quarter-mile away around 7 p.m. Soon, the police flooded the roadway and a police officer eventually escorted everyone out of the building four at a time. Everyone in the bar is safe.

    “I am honestly in a state of shock. I am blessed that my team responded quickly and everyone is safe,” Small told The Associated Press. “But the same time, my heart is broken for this area and for what everyone is dealing with. I just feel numb.”

    The alert for Lewiston was made shortly after 8 p.m. as the sheriff's office reported that law enforcement agencies were investigating “two active shooter events.” Officials issued an update around 10 p.m. on their search.

    "Avoid the area until authorities give the all-clear,” the statement said. “Seek alternative routes to circumvent the area and any disruptions. If already operating in the affected region, adhere to all instructions issued by local officials, including the shelter-in-place order.”

    “We are encouraging all businesses to lock down and or close while we investigate,” the sheriff's office reported.

    A spokesperson for Maine Department of Public Safety urged residents to stay in their homes with their doors locked.

    “Law enforcement is currently investigating at two locations right now," Shannon Moss said. "Again please stay off the streets and allow law enforcement to diffuse the situation.”

    Gov. Janet Mills released a statement echoing those instructions. She said she has been briefed on the situation and will remain in close contact with public safety officials.

    President Joe Biden had spoken by phone to Mills and the state's Congress members, offering “full federal support in the wake of this horrific attack,” a White House statement said.

    Local schools will be closed Thursday and people should shelter in place or seek safety, Superintendent Jake Langlais said, adding: “Stay close to your loved ones. Embrace them."

    Lewiston, about 35 miles (56 kilometers) north of Portland, emerged as a major center for African immigration into Maine. The Somali population, which numbers in the thousands, has changed the demographics of the once overwhelmingly white mill city into one of the most diverse in northern New England.

    Ange Amores, a spokesperson for the city of Lewiston, said city officials are not commenting on the shooting. Amores said Maine State Police were planning to hold a news conference, likely at city hall, to update the public on Wednesday night.

    Maine Sen. Angus King, an independent, said he was “deeply sad for the city of Lewiston and all those worried about their family, friends and neighbors” and was monitoring the situation. King’s office said the senator would be headed directly home to Maine on the first flight possible.


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,548
    https://apnews.com/article/mass-killings-united-states-list-8eea3427796229eb127e052b3c66c691   A list of mass killings in the United States since January

     
    A list of mass killings in the United States since January
    By The Associated Press
    27 mins ago

    The latest mass killing in the U.S. happened Wednesday night in Lewiston, Maine, when a man opened fire at a bowling alley and a bar, killing at least 16 people, two law enforcement officials told The Associated Press. Dozens of people were also wounded.

    The alert for Lewiston was made shortly after 8 p.m. as the sheriff’s office reported that law enforcement agencies were investigating “two active shooter events.”

    The man identified as a person of interest in a mass killing in Maine is a firearms instructor trained by the military and was recently committed to a mental health facility, according to a state police bulletin.

    The shooting was the country's 36th mass killing this year, according to a database maintained by The Associated Press and USA Today in partnership with Northeastern University. At least 188 people have died in those killings, which are defined as incidents in which four or more people have died within a 24-hour period, not including the killer — the same definition used by the FBI.

    So far this year, the nation has witnessed the second-highest number on record of mass killings and deaths to this point in a single year. Only 2019 had more mass killings. According to the database, there have been more than 560 mass killings since 2006, in which at least 2,900 people died and at least 2,000 were injured.

    Here’s what happened in the other U.S. mass killings this year.

    ROMEOVILLE, ILLINOIS: Sept. 17

    A couple, their two children — ages 7 and 9 — and three dogs were found fatally shot in their suburban Chicago home. Police were asked to check on the family after one member did not show for work that morning and phone calls went unanswered, authorities said. A 32-year-old man was suspected in the deaths. He died days later after a fiery crash in Oklahoma, along with a passenger, and had a relationship with the victims, police said.

    LAKE TOWNSHIP, OHIO: Aug. 24

    Five members of a family, including three children, were found dead at a home in Lake Township, Ohio, by police officers performing a welfare check. Authorities say a husband and wife and their two daughters and son died from gunshot wounds and their deaths are being investigated as a domestic dispute that turned deadly. It’s unclear who fired the shots.

    OKLAHOMA CITY: Aug. 16

    Police in Oklahoma City said a 28-year-old man fatally shot three young children — ages 9, 5 and 2 — and his estranged wife before taking his own life. Officers visited the family home following a report of a domestic disturbance. Authorities described the couple as married but separated and said police had never been called to a domestic disturbance at the home before. They added that investigators have not yet determined a motive.

    HAMPTON, GEORGIA: July 15

    A 40-year-old man is accused of fatally shooting four people, all in their 60s, in a suburb south of Atlanta. Police said the man’s motive was not immediately clear. The killings set off a massive search that ended with a shootout that killed the man in another suburb about 15 miles (24 kilometers) away. The exchange of gunfire wounded a sheriff’s deputy and two police officers.

    SHREVEPORT, LOUISIANA: July 4

    Multiple males are believed to have exchanged gunfire at an annual Independence Day block party just before midnight, leaving at least four people dead and at least seven others injured, according to police. Suspects were not quickly identified, and arrests were not immediately made.

    PHILADELPHIA: July 3

    A 40-year-old man is accused of opening fire randomly with an AR-15-style rifle, killing four people and wounding four others, including a 2-year-old, in a southwest Philadelphia neighborhood. Authorities said the man fatally shot another person in a row house the day before.

    GREEN POND, SOUTH CAROLINA: July 2

    A 33-year-old man was charged with murder in the killings of his sister-in-law and 11-year-old daughter after authorities found six people dead and one person in critical condition at a home while responding to reports of a house fire and stabbings, officials said. They did not immediately identify a motive. The man was later charged in connection with the other four deaths, according to media reports.

    KELLOGG, IDAHO: June 18

    A 31-year-old man is accused of fatally shooting four members of a neighboring family in their apartment on Father's Day. The man was upset that the neighbor's 18-year-old son had reportedly exposed himself to the man’s children, a police document alleges.

    SEQUATCHIE, TENNESSEE: June 15

    A 48-year-old man is thought to be responsible for killing himself and five others — including three children and his estranged wife — in a home where police responded to a shooting and arrived to find the residence ablaze, authorities said. A seventh person suffered gunshot wounds and was found alive at the home after firefighters extinguished the flames.

    MESA, ARIZONA: May 26

    A 20-year-old man shot four men to death and wounded a woman in a 12-hour crime spree in metro Phoenix, authorities said. He told police that he met the victims at random that day at a range of places, including a park and a convenience store, and became angry when the subject of drugs came up.

    NASH, TEXAS: May 23

    Authorities jailed an 18-year-old man in connection with the shootings of his parents, sister and brother inside a home. A victim's co-worker who went to the home after one of the victims failed to show up for work told police that the man said “he had killed his family because they were cannibals, and they were going to eat him."

    ALLEN, TEXAS: May 6

    A 33-year-old man with an arsenal of legally-purchased firearms killed eight people and wounded seven others at a Dallas-area shopping center. He had posted online about his white supremacist and misogynistic views. A police officer fatally shot him within four minutes.

    LAKE WALES, FLORIDA: May 2

    A 38-year-old man was suspected of fatally shooting a woman and her three children after police were called to an apartment complex where they found the bodies. After an hourslong standoff at a motel, police fatally shot the man.

    HENRYETTA, OKLAHOMA: May 1

    A 39-year-old man fatally shot his wife, her three children and their two friends before killing himself, authorities said. They were all found dead on his rural property. He was a convicted rapist who had been freed from prison early, despite facing new sex charges in a separate case.

    MOJAVE, CALIFORNIA: April 30

    Four people were found fatally shot inside an RV in a remote Mojave Desert community, authorities said. There were no immediate arrests, but two people were being sought for questioning as “persons of interest.”

    CLEVELAND, TEXAS: April 28

    A 38-year-old man was arrested after a four-day manhunt. Authorities allege that the man charged into a neighbor's home and killed five people, including a 9-year-old boy, after his neighbors asked him to stop firing his AR-style rifle because a baby was trying to sleep.

    BOWDOIN, MAINE: April 18

    A 32-year-old man confessed to fatally shooting four people, including his parents, at a home. From there he fled and fired shots at moving vehicles on a highway. Several vehicles were hit by gunfire but the three people injured were a family all in the same car.

    DADEVILLE, ALABAMA: April 15

    Six suspects — ages 15 to 20 — were charged with reckless murder in connection with a shooting at a Sweet 16 birthday party that killed four people and injured at least 32 others. Two high school seniors were killed. The other two killed were 19 and 23.

    LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY: April 10

    A 25-year-old bank employee armed with a rifle opened fire at his workplace, killing five people — including a close friend of Kentucky’s governor — while livestreaming the attack on Instagram, authorities said. Police arrived as shots were still being fired inside Old National Bank and killed the shooter during an exchange of gunfire.

    MONROE, LOUISIANA: March 31

    A 37-year-old man was arrested on arson and murder charges after a fire killed four people in a home, KNOE-TV reported.

    NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE: March 27

    A 28-year-old killed three children and three adults in a shooting at a small Christian elementary school before being killed by police. The shooter was a former student there. Police have said the shooter “was assigned female at birth” but used masculine pronouns on social media.

    SUMTER, SOUTH CAROLINA: March 21

    A 42-year-old former soldier shot and killed three children as they slept in their home while their mother frantically sought help, authorities said. He also killed an Army soldier who was at the home before killing himself. The shooter and the children's mother were divorced.

    BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA: March 13 to 14

    A 28-year-old man was suspected of killing four people in overnight shootings. Authorities said the man approached a police officer and said he had shot two people in Birmingham and two people in St. Clair County.

    DALLAS, TEXAS: March 12

    An 18-year-old man and 20-year-old woman were charged in the fatal shootings of four people at an apartment. They told police they’d broken into the home to take money. The man admitted to shooting all of the victims. The woman had dated one of the victims, and they were involved in a custody dispute over their son. An infant was found unharmed at the scene.

    MIAMI LAKES, FLORIDA: March 10

    Police found three females and two males dead from apparent gunshot wounds inside a home, officials said. The wounds of one man appeared to be self-inflicted, leading investigators to believe the case was a murder-suicide.

    COCOA, FLORIDA: March 1

    A 36-year-old man was arrested after fatally shooting his teenage daughter, her mother and two other people, authorities said. Deputies responded after one of two surviving children had called a relative for help.

    DAPHNE, ALABAMA: Feb. 22

    A 21-year-old man was accused of killing his grandparents, his brother and a family friend with a handgun and pickaxe. Their bodies were found in the backyard of his grandparents' home and inside a bedroom in the house, police said.

    ARKABUTLA, MISSISSIPPI: Feb. 17

    A 52-year-old man shot and killed six people including his ex-wife and stepfather at multiple locations in a tiny rural community, authorities said. The man was armed with a shotgun and two handguns. A family friend said he had a history of mental illness. One victim was shot and killed while sitting in a pickup truck outside a convenience store.

    LUTTRELL, TENNESSEE: Jan. 29

    A 52-year-old man who complained of having “a devil in his head” fatally shot four children in his home before setting the residence ablaze and shooting himself, according to a prosecutor. The children were ages 5 to 15.

    HALF MOON BAY, CALIFORNIA: Jan. 23

    A 66-year-old man was charged with killing seven people in back-to-back shootings at two mushroom farms. He pleaded not guilty. Prosecutors said he opened fire at the mushroom farm where he worked, killing four co-workers and wounding another one. They said he then drove to a mushroom farm he was fired from in 2015 and fatally shot three former co-workers.

    MONTEREY PARK, CALIFORNIA: Jan. 21

    A 72-year-old man opened fire on a mostly elderly crowd at a Lunar New Year dance, killing 11 people and wounding nine. The man later died of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. The massacre has been called the deadliest shooting in Los Angeles County history.

    GOSHEN, CALIFORNIA: Jan. 16

    Authorities announced more than two dozen arrests during a gang crackdown following the fatal shootings of six people — including a teenage mother and her baby — that investigators believe stemmed from a gang rivalry. Two men have pleaded not guilty to the murder charges.

    CLEVELAND, OHIO: Jan. 13

    A 41-year-old man was accused of fatally shooting his father, sister and nephew as well as another man and critically wounding an 8-year-old girl. The man pleaded not guilty. Police alleged that he shot victims in the head in different rooms of a home, then flagged down a police cruiser and directed officers to the scene.

    HIGH POINT, NORTH CAROLINA: Jan. 7

    A 45-year-old man fatally shot his wife and three children and then himself. Authorities said all five lived together in the home. Two others escaped the house. One of the survivors was a relative of the family and another was an acquaintance. Both were in their 20s.

    ENOCH, UTAH: Jan. 4

    A 42-year-old man fatally shot his five children, his mother-in-law and his wife and then killed himself two weeks after his wife filed for divorce. Child protective services had opened an investigation of the man on child abuse and threats to his family just weeks before the killing.

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    Associated Press reporter Mike Balsamo contributed to this report.


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,518
    These will never stop! Someone should ask the new speaker if he has asked God for guidance? 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    These will never stop! Someone should ask the new speaker if he has asked God for guidance? 
    Conservative won't have much to say about this one besides we need more good guys with guns because he's a legal gun owner. The solution is always more guns. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,362
    "Law enforcement officials in Maine tell CNN that Card is a certified firearms instructor and a member of the US Army Reserve. Card had recently made threats to carry out a shooting at a National Guard facility in Saco, Maine, and also reported mental health issues, including hearing voices, the officials said."
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/us/lewiston-maine-shooting/index.html

    How you can make threats, have reported mental health issues and keep your guns and be an instructor is part of the problem.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,548
    mace1229 said:
    "Law enforcement officials in Maine tell CNN that Card is a certified firearms instructor and a member of the US Army Reserve. Card had recently made threats to carry out a shooting at a National Guard facility in Saco, Maine, and also reported mental health issues, including hearing voices, the officials said."
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/us/lewiston-maine-shooting/index.html

    How you can make threats, have reported mental health issues and keep your guns and be an instructor is part of the problem.

    call your republican congressman and senators
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,855
    The "needing a good guy with a gun" argument that I always hear after these shootings is stupid. The overwhelming majority of gun owners do not have any training in dealing with active shooter situations, and put in a high stress situation like that have a higher likelihood of making an already chaotic situation worse by having multiple people with firearms discharging their weapons around people. Without the proper training and the mental preparation necessary for that situation, the potential for additional collateral shootings is extremely high. I live in Illinois and work in Indiana. In Illinois we have concealed carry permits, and while you have to take a class that includes some time at a range to prove you know how to use the firearm, it is in no way preparing someone to face an active shooter. In Indiana you don't even have to have a concealed carry permit or any kind of training, just not be prohibited from owning a firearm. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,252
    It's hard to identify some of these people. I've told the story here about my client who thinks end times are imminent and refused to pay his quarterly federal tax payments (for reference I'm a CPA/Tax advisor) but he still paid his state estimates quarterly and also was sure to file his federal return by October 16 this year which included about $5K in interest/penalties that he could have avoided by paying quarterly.

    Is that mentally ill? It sure as fuck seems so to me.

    And again...another client just this week called with a simple tax question and ended up feeding us a diatribe about end times coming because of what is going on in Israel. Mentally ill? Fuck yes.

    Anyone who believes that Jesus is going to be walking the streets soon and leaving non-believers to be slaughtered is fucking crazy and shouldn't be allowed to have a fucking gun.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,137
    his twitter page was full of likes of Tucker, Jim Jordan, Dinesh, Don Jr; mostly anti-trans rhetoric. 
    Speaking of Twitter, this morning I was scrolling Twitter and didn't see a single thing about the shooting. I had to search "Maine," which enabled me to see plenty, including from people I follow.

    It almost seems like the app didn't want to highlight a big event.
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  • It's hard to identify some of these people. I've told the story here about my client who thinks end times are imminent and refused to pay his quarterly federal tax payments (for reference I'm a CPA/Tax advisor) but he still paid his state estimates quarterly and also was sure to file his federal return by October 16 this year which included about $5K in interest/penalties that he could have avoided by paying quarterly.

    Is that mentally ill? It sure as fuck seems so to me.

    And again...another client just this week called with a simple tax question and ended up feeding us a diatribe about end times coming because of what is going on in Israel. Mentally ill? Fuck yes.

    Anyone who believes that Jesus is going to be walking the streets soon and leaving non-believers to be slaughtered is fucking crazy and shouldn't be allowed to have a fucking gun.
    The end times are what evangelicals believe and are actively working to achieve as they truly believe in the second coming and think they’ll be saved. And now there’s one as speaker. People need to wake the fuck up. The fucking guy is second in line to being POTUS with launch codes.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    OnWis97 said:
    his twitter page was full of likes of Tucker, Jim Jordan, Dinesh, Don Jr; mostly anti-trans rhetoric. 
    Speaking of Twitter, this morning I was scrolling Twitter and didn't see a single thing about the shooting. I had to search "Maine," which enabled me to see plenty, including from people I follow.

    It almost seems like the app didn't want to highlight a big event.
    Your mean "X", which doesn't seem to always mark the spot. How shocking. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    edited October 2023
    OnWis97 said:
    his twitter page was full of likes of Tucker, Jim Jordan, Dinesh, Don Jr; mostly anti-trans rhetoric. 
    Speaking of Twitter, this morning I was scrolling Twitter and didn't see a single thing about the shooting. I had to search "Maine," which enabled me to see plenty, including from people I follow.

    It almost seems like the app didn't want to highlight a big event.
    that is how musk "fixed" it, and one of the main reasons i do not click on tweets on this forum or go on there myself.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,907
    edited October 2023
    his twitter page was full of likes of Tucker, Jim Jordan, Dinesh, Don Jr; mostly anti-trans rhetoric. 
    I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you. A radicalized maga strikes again. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,518
    The speaker offered his prayers and that we must all pray it will get us through this 😂😂😂
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,083
    OnWis97 said:
    his twitter page was full of likes of Tucker, Jim Jordan, Dinesh, Don Jr; mostly anti-trans rhetoric. 
    Speaking of Twitter, this morning I was scrolling Twitter and didn't see a single thing about the shooting. I had to search "Maine," which enabled me to see plenty, including from people I follow.

    It almost seems like the app didn't want to highlight a big event.
    Probably because this situation runs opposite of their ready to respond with narrative. I believe Maine is a high gun ownership state and to deny a mentally ill person access to guns requires passage of red flag laws, which many republicans oppose. 
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mace1229 said:
    "Law enforcement officials in Maine tell CNN that Card is a certified firearms instructor and a member of the US Army Reserve. Card had recently made threats to carry out a shooting at a National Guard facility in Saco, Maine, and also reported mental health issues, including hearing voices, the officials said."
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/us/lewiston-maine-shooting/index.html

    How you can make threats, have reported mental health issues and keep your guns and be an instructor is part of the problem.
    Many of these shootings could've been prevented but action isn't taken when it should be. 
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    The speaker offered his prayers and that we must all pray it will get us through this 😂😂😂
    It's not funny when people die. 
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    It's hard to identify some of these people. I've told the story here about my client who thinks end times are imminent and refused to pay his quarterly federal tax payments (for reference I'm a CPA/Tax advisor) but he still paid his state estimates quarterly and also was sure to file his federal return by October 16 this year which included about $5K in interest/penalties that he could have avoided by paying quarterly.

    Is that mentally ill? It sure as fuck seems so to me.

    And again...another client just this week called with a simple tax question and ended up feeding us a diatribe about end times coming because of what is going on in Israel. Mentally ill? Fuck yes.

    Anyone who believes that Jesus is going to be walking the streets soon and leaving non-believers to be slaughtered is fucking crazy and shouldn't be allowed to have a fucking gun.
    The end times are what evangelicals believe and are actively working to achieve as they truly believe in the second coming and think they’ll be saved. And now there’s one as speaker. People need to wake the fuck up. The fucking guy is second in line to being POTUS with launch codes.
    Democrats wanted to kick McCarthy out. Be careful what you wish for. 
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