obama not after your guns ?

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  • WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    edited July 2015
    benjs said:

    rr165892 said:

    GF,you know I fall right of center and I'm also gun owner with a CCP license.But I am also aware that we need to strengthen our resolve when it comes to who gets guns ,at least legally.
    Who cares if there is more backround checks? If your legit,you should have no issue.No one is asking for an inventory of your arsenal.
    When 1 idiot tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb,all of us paid for it by having to ridiculously take shoes off when getting on a plane.ONE GUY,ONE TIME.
    So know we have multiple mass shootings of hundreds of innocent victims,including kids and families.We have done nothing!!!!! Not one fucking thing.Any gun owner who is responsible should have no issue with making it tougher for those who want to acquire,Espescially illegal immigrants and those already relying on the entitlements of the government tit.They should be more concerned with buying milk,books and clothes not Bullets and Guns.

    First, see link for the full article.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-gun-law-20150718-story.html

    I don't think GF explained himself well here (at all) - sorry, GF. If he's saying what I think he is, I completely agree with him (with the exception of the infantile name-calling of the President).

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    This law, if I understand it correctly, models its background checks on the Department of Veteran Affairs' background checks. In this, it stipulates that anyone who is incapable of handling their own financial affairs would be ineligible for the service requested. The way of checking this is by determining whether a person is able, him or herself, to collect Social Security on a regular basis (without a representative sent on his or her behalf).

    Social Security is for those who are retired, disabled in a way, shape or form, or unemployed. The question at hand is really simple. Are there legitimate reasons why one might not want to or be able to collect his or her own Social Security regularly and/or assign someone else to do it for him or herself, but should still be deemed eligible to carry a weapon?

    If there are none, then this is an effective background check.

    If there are some, then this is an ineffective background check, as it prohibits some who should not be prohibited from carrying a weapon.

    Really not much more to it than that.
    I can't pretend to know each individuals circumstances, but if someone doesn't have the physical ability to cash their own check should they be able to wield a firearm?
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145

    benjs said:

    rr165892 said:

    GF,you know I fall right of center and I'm also gun owner with a CCP license.But I am also aware that we need to strengthen our resolve when it comes to who gets guns ,at least legally.
    Who cares if there is more backround checks? If your legit,you should have no issue.No one is asking for an inventory of your arsenal.
    When 1 idiot tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb,all of us paid for it by having to ridiculously take shoes off when getting on a plane.ONE GUY,ONE TIME.
    So know we have multiple mass shootings of hundreds of innocent victims,including kids and families.We have done nothing!!!!! Not one fucking thing.Any gun owner who is responsible should have no issue with making it tougher for those who want to acquire,Espescially illegal immigrants and those already relying on the entitlements of the government tit.They should be more concerned with buying milk,books and clothes not Bullets and Guns.

    First, see link for the full article.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-gun-law-20150718-story.html

    I don't think GF explained himself well here (at all) - sorry, GF. If he's saying what I think he is, I completely agree with him (with the exception of the infantile name-calling of the President).

    image

    This law, if I understand it correctly, models its background checks on the Department of Veteran Affairs' background checks. In this, it stipulates that anyone who is incapable of handling their own financial affairs would be ineligible for the service requested. The way of checking this is by determining whether a person is able, him or herself, to collect Social Security on a regular basis (without a representative sent on his or her behalf).

    Social Security is for those who are retired, disabled in a way, shape or form, or unemployed. The question at hand is really simple. Are there legitimate reasons why one might not want to or be able to collect his or her own Social Security regularly and/or assign someone else to do it for him or herself, but should still be deemed eligible to carry a weapon?

    If there are none, then this is an effective background check.

    If there are some, then this is an ineffective background check, as it prohibits some who should not be prohibited from carrying a weapon.

    Really not much more to it than that.
    I can't pretend to know each individuals circumstances, but if someone doesn't have the physical ability to cash their own check should they be able to wield a firearm?
    Like I said above, the answer to that question is the answer to the question of whether or not this is a fair and effective background check!
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196

    this president is a asshat, obama needs to move his stupid ass back to kenya.

    Godfather.

    GF, is there a proper link to this story or not.....I'd like to read the entire article.

    As you may already know I did not vote for Obama in the first election. Now if as you say he's STUPID then what do you think of President George W. Bush and the condition he left this country in when he left office? I'm pretty sure in the 16+ months President Obama has left in office this country will not be anywhere in the condition GWB left it. Which to the current being elected into office by the people and for the citizenry.....not the SCOTUS.

    I know now you obviously don't like BHO, he seems to get under your skin. However, just a suggestion when you make a post/thread pointing out his inefficiencies/disagreements one can do so without showing your obvious biases. Your threads can move along in a much more positive/progressive (forgive me for using the word progressive) fashion.

    I also know you have your own style and substance to which you have stuck to through the years (ain't none of AMT participants are going to change that) but basically stick to the damn subject matter right, wrong or indifferent.

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  • WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    edited July 2015
    benjs said:

    benjs said:

    rr165892 said:

    GF,you know I fall right of center and I'm also gun owner with a CCP license.But I am also aware that we need to strengthen our resolve when it comes to who gets guns ,at least legally.
    Who cares if there is more backround checks? If your legit,you should have no issue.No one is asking for an inventory of your arsenal.
    When 1 idiot tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb,all of us paid for it by having to ridiculously take shoes off when getting on a plane.ONE GUY,ONE TIME.
    So know we have multiple mass shootings of hundreds of innocent victims,including kids and families.We have done nothing!!!!! Not one fucking thing.Any gun owner who is responsible should have no issue with making it tougher for those who want to acquire,Espescially illegal immigrants and those already relying on the entitlements of the government tit.They should be more concerned with buying milk,books and clothes not Bullets and Guns.

    First, see link for the full article.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-gun-law-20150718-story.html

    I don't think GF explained himself well here (at all) - sorry, GF. If he's saying what I think he is, I completely agree with him (with the exception of the infantile name-calling of the President).

    image

    This law, if I understand it correctly, models its background checks on the Department of Veteran Affairs' background checks. In this, it stipulates that anyone who is incapable of handling their own financial affairs would be ineligible for the service requested. The way of checking this is by determining whether a person is able, him or herself, to collect Social Security on a regular basis (without a representative sent on his or her behalf).

    Social Security is for those who are retired, disabled in a way, shape or form, or unemployed. The question at hand is really simple. Are there legitimate reasons why one might not want to or be able to collect his or her own Social Security regularly and/or assign someone else to do it for him or herself, but should still be deemed eligible to carry a weapon?

    If there are none, then this is an effective background check.

    If there are some, then this is an ineffective background check, as it prohibits some who should not be prohibited from carrying a weapon.

    Really not much more to it than that.
    I can't pretend to know each individuals circumstances, but if someone doesn't have the physical ability to cash their own check should they be able to wield a firearm?
    Like I said above, the answer to that question is the answer to the question of whether or not this is a fair and effective background check!
    So under what type of circumstances would someone not be able to handle their own affairs yet still carry a gun? I'm seriously asking without my mind made up. This specific rule seems like a complicated issue.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    "pushing to ban Social Security beneficiaries from owning guns if they lack the mental capacity to manage their own affairs,"

    If you don't have the mental capacity to manage your own affairs why should you be able to possess a firearm?

    Obviously if you have applied for benefits under the guise of mental capacity and then you show up to fill out a gun permit a flag should go up.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    little by little gun rights are being restricted and everybody just keeps drinking the cool-aid.
    how about the stories about these welfare folks using guns ? are they next to lose thier right to own a gun ? that's it folks just keep dringing the cool-aid....uncle obama will make everything better....he's a idiot.

    Godfather.

    Didn't you chastise folks for using the term "gun nuts" because resorting to name calling is a position of weakness or something like that?? It's ok for you but not others right?
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    little by little gun rights are being restricted and everybody just keeps drinking the cool-aid.
    how about the stories about these welfare folks using guns ? are they next to lose thier right to own a gun ? that's it folks just keep dringing the cool-aid....uncle obama will make everything better....he's a idiot.

    Godfather.

    Didn't you chastise folks for using the term "gun nuts" because resorting to name calling is a position of weakness or something like that?? It's ok for you but not others right?
    well yes and your right, but obama is my exception LOL! just to clearify who did I name call ? other than obama ? if I have used any name calling (other than obama) I aploigize....yea yea I know it's wrong I'll try not to do that anymore.

    Godfather.

  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145

    benjs said:

    benjs said:

    rr165892 said:

    GF,you know I fall right of center and I'm also gun owner with a CCP license.But I am also aware that we need to strengthen our resolve when it comes to who gets guns ,at least legally.
    Who cares if there is more backround checks? If your legit,you should have no issue.No one is asking for an inventory of your arsenal.
    When 1 idiot tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb,all of us paid for it by having to ridiculously take shoes off when getting on a plane.ONE GUY,ONE TIME.
    So know we have multiple mass shootings of hundreds of innocent victims,including kids and families.We have done nothing!!!!! Not one fucking thing.Any gun owner who is responsible should have no issue with making it tougher for those who want to acquire,Espescially illegal immigrants and those already relying on the entitlements of the government tit.They should be more concerned with buying milk,books and clothes not Bullets and Guns.

    First, see link for the full article.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-gun-law-20150718-story.html

    I don't think GF explained himself well here (at all) - sorry, GF. If he's saying what I think he is, I completely agree with him (with the exception of the infantile name-calling of the President).

    image

    This law, if I understand it correctly, models its background checks on the Department of Veteran Affairs' background checks. In this, it stipulates that anyone who is incapable of handling their own financial affairs would be ineligible for the service requested. The way of checking this is by determining whether a person is able, him or herself, to collect Social Security on a regular basis (without a representative sent on his or her behalf).

    Social Security is for those who are retired, disabled in a way, shape or form, or unemployed. The question at hand is really simple. Are there legitimate reasons why one might not want to or be able to collect his or her own Social Security regularly and/or assign someone else to do it for him or herself, but should still be deemed eligible to carry a weapon?

    If there are none, then this is an effective background check.

    If there are some, then this is an ineffective background check, as it prohibits some who should not be prohibited from carrying a weapon.

    Really not much more to it than that.
    I can't pretend to know each individuals circumstances, but if someone doesn't have the physical ability to cash their own check should they be able to wield a firearm?
    Like I said above, the answer to that question is the answer to the question of whether or not this is a fair and effective background check!
    So under what type of circumstances would someone not be able to handle their own affairs yet still carry a gun? I'm seriously asking without my mind made up. This specific rule seems like a complicated issue.
    I was seriously asking as well, as I honestly don't know the answer! Nothing comes to mind, but if someone (Godfather) opposes this policy, someone (Godfather) should be able to answer this question.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    little by little gun rights are being restricted and everybody just keeps drinking the cool-aid.
    how about the stories about these welfare folks using guns ? are they next to lose thier right to own a gun ? that's it folks just keep dringing the cool-aid....uncle obama will make everything better....he's a idiot.

    Godfather.

    Didn't you chastise folks for using the term "gun nuts" because resorting to name calling is a position of weakness or something like that?? It's ok for you but not others right?
    well yes and your right, but obama is my exception LOL! just to clearify who did I name call ? other than obama ? if I have used any name calling (other than obama) I aploigize....yea yea I know it's wrong I'll try not to do that anymore.

    Godfather.

    Just Obama and those who drink his coolaid...but I don't really see a distinction lol
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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    can we move on to the real serious issue at hand?
    WTF is that hat Ben put up?.Is it a mule,donkey,pig ,cow.dog,sock monkey?
    i can't look away and think i somehow need to own one.
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145
    rr165892 said:

    can we move on to the real serious issue at hand?
    WTF is that hat Ben put up?.Is it a mule,donkey,pig ,cow.dog,sock monkey?
    i can't look away and think i somehow need to own one.

    It's an "asshat" :)
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    I believe you mean "a" asshat
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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    ok its monday,a little slow on the uptake.Of course it is.my bad.I still need one
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Ohhh shit! I hope nobody tells Biden.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    If Obama is after our guns...and he should go back to Kenya...is he going to take our guns back to Kenya? Tea Party talking points write themselves:

    Obama Seeks To Build Secret Stockpile Of American Weapons In Kenyan Homeland

    It will be part of Donald Trump's stump speech by next week.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Holy goodness. Just when you thought a human being couldn't be any dumber, this thread gets opened.

    GF, the gift that just keeps on giving. I wish you were my crazy uncle.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    JimmyV said:

    If Obama is after our guns...and he should go back to Kenya...is he going to take our guns back to Kenya? Tea Party talking points write themselves:

    Obama Seeks To Build Secret Stockpile Of American Weapons In Kenyan Homeland

    It will be part of Donald Trump's stump speech by next week.


    LOL...I wouldn't be surprised one bit. Chances are some right wingnut will blog about that and give the other wingnuts a link to refer to as "proof."
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Holy goodness. Just when you thought a human being couldn't be any dumber, this thread gets opened.

    GF, the gift that just keeps on giving. I wish you were my crazy uncle.

    I just might be...........the 80's were pretty blurry, you should respect your elders. LOL!!!!!!!
    by the way speaking of dumber how are those special ed classes working out for you ?
    good luck my friend...I mean Nephew.


    Godfather.

  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    and by the way welcome back..... here at the happy factory we've missed you since you you've been gone but I knew you'd come back.

    Godfather.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,546
    rr165892 said:

    GF,you know I fall right of center and I'm also gun owner with a CCP license.But I am also aware that we need to strengthen our resolve when it comes to who gets guns ,at least legally.
    Who cares if there is more backround checks? If your legit,you should have no issue.No one is asking for an inventory of your arsenal.
    When 1 idiot tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb,all of us paid for it by having to ridiculously take shoes off when getting on a plane.ONE GUY,ONE TIME.
    So know we have multiple mass shootings of hundreds of innocent victims,including kids and families.We have done nothing!!!!! Not one fucking thing.Any gun owner who is responsible should have no issue with making it tougher for those who want to acquire,Espescially illegal immigrants and those already relying on the entitlements of the government tit.They should be more concerned with buying milk,books and clothes not Bullets and Guns.

    BRAVO well said ....
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    This entire thread is a joke. I'm beginning to think GF just likes to stir the pot.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275

    This entire thread is a joke. I'm beginning to think GF just likes to stir the pot.

    I think you're giving him too much credit.

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

    PJ_soul, it just seem like the farthest place away as long as he's gone I don't give a shit where he goes, fuck him.

    Godfather.

    Uh-huh. Okay.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145

    I believe you mean "a" asshat

    Thanks Gern, my bad!

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  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2015

    This entire thread is a joke. I'm beginning to think GF just likes to stir the pot.

    And you wonder why he claps like a retarded seal when Trump speaks. One racist birther commie deserves another.

    Not even BS would stoop this low.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    Wait, Trump is a commie??
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    This place just keeps getting more strange, :lol:
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840

    Holy goodness. Just when you thought a human being couldn't be any dumber, this thread gets opened.

    GF, the gift that just keeps on giving. I wish you were my crazy uncle.

    I just might be...........the 80's were pretty blurry, you should respect your elders. LOL!!!!!!!
    by the way speaking of dumber how are those special ed classes working out for you ?
    good luck my friend...I mean Nephew.


    Godfather.

    Good one
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,767
    You liberals need to leave Godfoxer alone
    He is absolutely correct when he says that President Obama is Kenyan and that when he goes back to Kenya he is taking all of your guns with him.

    But before that he has 18 months left in his presidency. And during those 18 months he will......

    Take all your guns
    Raise your taxes
    Abort your babies
    Legalize pot
    Create more govt.
    And allow people of color to be U.S. citizens.

    :anguished:
  • Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani Posts: 7,790
    I really don't understand the issue here. We want to take guns away from people who for whatever reason can't manage their own lives and need the government to do it for them. Sounds like a no brainer. This to me is no different that wanting to take drivers licenses away from people who go blind. The right to bear arms is not absolute. We do not allow felons to own guns for reasons we don't trust them anymore. I feel the same way for someone who is taking my tax dollars. If you have a real mental or physical issue that makes it to where you need my taxes then I don't trust you to own a gun.
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