The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
This is true but how many Americans had to die? How many Americans have to live the rest of their lives with debilitating injuries? How many billions of American tax dollars were spent? How many innocent Iraqis had to die, be injured, lose their homes and livelihoods? All to backup dick cheneys hardon for Saddam Husein.
The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
This is true but how many Americans had to die? How many Americans have to live the rest of their lives with debilitating injuries? How many billions of American tax dollars were spent? How many innocent Iraqis had to die, be injured, lose their homes and livelihoods? All to backup dick cheneys hardon for Saddam Husein.
In the grand scheme of things not many. From a historical perspective the military victory was not costly at all compared to previous invasion/pacifications. It is quite likely actually that post-withdrawal there have been far more civilian deaths then pre-withdrawal plus regional instability with no end in sight. Withdrawal was not without cost and that is Obama's and the retreat contigent's burden to share.
The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
This is true but how many Americans had to die? How many Americans have to live the rest of their lives with debilitating injuries? How many billions of American tax dollars were spent? How many innocent Iraqis had to die, be injured, lose their homes and livelihoods? All to backup dick cheneys hardon for Saddam Husein.
The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
This is true but how many Americans had to die? How many Americans have to live the rest of their lives with debilitating injuries? How many billions of American tax dollars were spent? How many innocent Iraqis had to die, be injured, lose their homes and livelihoods? All to backup dick cheneys hardon for Saddam Husein.
Maybe we need to be smarter on who we vote for.
if only. humans are by and large selfish, so people content with their lives will generally vote the way they always have to maintain that lifestyle. why rock the boat, you know? itd take a seismic shift to wake the majority of people up.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
wrong again.
this was not amazing foresight. the surge was implemented out of desperation. it was not part of the original plan. anything to the contrary is revisionist history and is not being genuine.
the original plan was we were going to be greeted as liberators with minimal loss of lives and the oil we steal was going to pay for the war. completely. wrong. on. all. points.
amazing foresight would have followed what cheney originally said and not gone to iraq in the first place.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
wrong again.
this was not amazing foresight. the surge was implemented out of desperation. it was not part of the original plan. anything to the contrary is revisionist history and is not being genuine.
the original plan was we were going to be greeted as liberators with minimal loss of lives and the oil we steal was going to pay for the war. completely. wrong. on. all. points.
amazing foresight would have followed what cheney originally said and not gone to iraq in the first place.
The surge was implemented to stabilize the country. That is what we are debating here. The amazing foresight was Patreaus and Crocker's ability to create a working strategy and Bush's decision to adopt it even while the entire democratic party and national media pushed for withdrawal. It worked. The country was stabilized. Then Obama pulled out and it collapsed. That is not revisionist history.
The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
wrong again.
this was not amazing foresight. the surge was implemented out of desperation. it was not part of the original plan. anything to the contrary is revisionist history and is not being genuine.
the original plan was we were going to be greeted as liberators with minimal loss of lives and the oil we steal was going to pay for the war. completely. wrong. on. all. points.
amazing foresight would have followed what cheney originally said and not gone to iraq in the first place.
The surge was implemented to stabilize the country. That is what we are debating here. The amazing foresight was Patreaus and Crocker's ability to create a working strategy and Bush's decision to adopt it even while the entire democratic party and national media pushed for withdrawal. It worked. The country was stabilized. Then Obama pulled out and it collapsed. That is not revisionist history.
It was always going to collapse after American troops were withdrawn. It doesn't matter by whom or when. It was going to happen. The blame goes straight to dick cheney, don rumsfeld, and karl rove.
The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
wrong again.
this was not amazing foresight. the surge was implemented out of desperation. it was not part of the original plan. anything to the contrary is revisionist history and is not being genuine.
the original plan was we were going to be greeted as liberators with minimal loss of lives and the oil we steal was going to pay for the war. completely. wrong. on. all. points.
amazing foresight would have followed what cheney originally said and not gone to iraq in the first place.
The surge was implemented to stabilize the country. That is what we are debating here. The amazing foresight was Patreaus and Crocker's ability to create a working strategy and Bush's decision to adopt it even while the entire democratic party and national media pushed for withdrawal. It worked. The country was stabilized. Then Obama pulled out and it collapsed. That is not revisionist history.
It was always going to collapse after American troops were withdrawn. It doesn't matter by whom or when. It was going to happen. The blame goes straight to dick cheney, don rumsfeld, and karl rove.
The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
wrong again.
this was not amazing foresight. the surge was implemented out of desperation. it was not part of the original plan. anything to the contrary is revisionist history and is not being genuine.
the original plan was we were going to be greeted as liberators with minimal loss of lives and the oil we steal was going to pay for the war. completely. wrong. on. all. points.
amazing foresight would have followed what cheney originally said and not gone to iraq in the first place.
The surge was implemented to stabilize the country. That is what we are debating here. The amazing foresight was Patreaus and Crocker's ability to create a working strategy and Bush's decision to adopt it even while the entire democratic party and national media pushed for withdrawal. It worked. The country was stabilized. Then Obama pulled out and it collapsed. That is not revisionist history.
It was always going to collapse after American troops were withdrawn. It doesn't matter by whom or when. It was going to happen. The blame goes straight to dick cheney, don rumsfeld, and karl rove.
But they didn't have to withdraw
Of course, because why feed children who are hungry and provide care for sick people when you can maintain a military presence in every corner of the world instead.
You spend hours jawing about government waste and all the typical conservative BS about government spending, but you literally don't give a fuck how much money gets spent on foreign occupations. You are a trip, dude. Sometimes you make me think you are Limbaugh in disguise. Gotta give you more credit than that though, I truly think you have a better grip on Harambe and the way evolution works lol
The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
wrong again.
this was not amazing foresight. the surge was implemented out of desperation. it was not part of the original plan. anything to the contrary is revisionist history and is not being genuine.
the original plan was we were going to be greeted as liberators with minimal loss of lives and the oil we steal was going to pay for the war. completely. wrong. on. all. points.
amazing foresight would have followed what cheney originally said and not gone to iraq in the first place.
The surge was implemented to stabilize the country. That is what we are debating here. The amazing foresight was Patreaus and Crocker's ability to create a working strategy and Bush's decision to adopt it even while the entire democratic party and national media pushed for withdrawal. It worked. The country was stabilized. Then Obama pulled out and it collapsed. That is not revisionist history.
It was always going to collapse after American troops were withdrawn. It doesn't matter by whom or when. It was going to happen. The blame goes straight to dick cheney, don rumsfeld, and karl rove.
But they didn't have to withdraw
YES THEY DID HAVE TO WITHDRAW.
obama asked to stay longer. al maliki said no.
see status of forces posts from 8 pages ago.
what do you want the americans to do, stay there and occupy a hostile country for eons? put some skin in the game and have your country do it.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
What some people seem to refuse to admit or even consider is that from before day one going into Iraq was always going to be....
A. Quagmire B. Mistake C. FUBAR D. A long slog to gain nothing E. About nothing other then dick/karl/don getting some sort of revenge F. Increasing haliburtons wealth G. All of the above
The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
wrong again.
this was not amazing foresight. the surge was implemented out of desperation. it was not part of the original plan. anything to the contrary is revisionist history and is not being genuine.
the original plan was we were going to be greeted as liberators with minimal loss of lives and the oil we steal was going to pay for the war. completely. wrong. on. all. points.
amazing foresight would have followed what cheney originally said and not gone to iraq in the first place.
The surge was implemented to stabilize the country. That is what we are debating here. The amazing foresight was Patreaus and Crocker's ability to create a working strategy and Bush's decision to adopt it even while the entire democratic party and national media pushed for withdrawal. It worked. The country was stabilized. Then Obama pulled out and it collapsed. That is not revisionist history.
It was always going to collapse after American troops were withdrawn. It doesn't matter by whom or when. It was going to happen. The blame goes straight to dick cheney, don rumsfeld, and karl rove.
But they didn't have to withdraw
YES THEY DID HAVE TO WITHDRAW.
obama asked to stay longer. al maliki said no.
see status of forces posts from 8 pages ago.
what do you want the americans to do, stay there and occupy a hostile country for eons? put some skin in the game and have your country do it.
There are American troops in Iraq right now (and a small amount of Canadian ones as well). They are there without a status of forces agreement. As we have discussed multiple times, if the Obama administration wanted the troops to stay they could have stayed and prevented the carnage. Canada and the world would have followed his leadership. The revisionist history is to suggest that poor Obama had no choice. He just had to order the pull out. He didn't want to you see...he just had no other option. Sure he ruined Libya without getting anyone's permission but the collapse of the whole region after his withdrawal is just not his fault. It was always going to collapse! What nonsense.
The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!
So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
go fix it then.
clearly it is not our problem anymore.
maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.
wrong again.
this was not amazing foresight. the surge was implemented out of desperation. it was not part of the original plan. anything to the contrary is revisionist history and is not being genuine.
the original plan was we were going to be greeted as liberators with minimal loss of lives and the oil we steal was going to pay for the war. completely. wrong. on. all. points.
amazing foresight would have followed what cheney originally said and not gone to iraq in the first place.
The surge was implemented to stabilize the country. That is what we are debating here. The amazing foresight was Patreaus and Crocker's ability to create a working strategy and Bush's decision to adopt it even while the entire democratic party and national media pushed for withdrawal. It worked. The country was stabilized. Then Obama pulled out and it collapsed. That is not revisionist history.
It was always going to collapse after American troops were withdrawn. It doesn't matter by whom or when. It was going to happen. The blame goes straight to dick cheney, don rumsfeld, and karl rove.
But they didn't have to withdraw
YES THEY DID HAVE TO WITHDRAW.
obama asked to stay longer. al maliki said no.
see status of forces posts from 8 pages ago.
what do you want the americans to do, stay there and occupy a hostile country for eons? put some skin in the game and have your country do it.
There are American troops in Iraq right now (and a small amount of Canadian ones as well). They are there without a status of forces agreement. As we have discussed multiple times, if the Obama administration wanted the troops to stay they could have stayed and prevented the carnage. Canada and the world would have followed his leadership. The revisionist history is to suggest that poor Obama had no choice. He just had to order the pull out. He didn't want to you see...he just had no other option. Sure he ruined Libya without getting anyone's permission but the collapse of the whole region after his withdrawal is just not his fault. It was always going to collapse! What nonsense.
Maybe a stupid question, but how on earth is military occupation helping to bring peace? The Iraqis have had the feeling they were occupied by a hostile force, this bread extremism, see the results of the occupation in the current extremism and violence. If the troops had stayed longer the hatred against the West would only have grown, in my opinion.
"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed".- Carl Jung.
"Art does not reproduce what we see; rather, it makes us see."- Paul Klee
Remember when Canada invaded another country under false pretenses, bombed the shit out of them, occupied them for 13 years and counting, killed or had the events they put in motion kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and 4,000+ of their own service members, gave rise to ISIS and cost their treasury $1 trillion Loonies? Remember that? That was awesome.
Remember when Canada invaded another country under false pretenses, bombed the shit out of them, occupied them for 13 years and counting, killed or had the events they put in motion kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and 4,000+ of their own service members, gave rise to ISIS and cost their treasury $1 trillion Loonies? Remember that? That was awesome.
Remember when Canada invaded another country under false pretenses, bombed the shit out of them, occupied them for 13 years and counting, killed or had the events they put in motion kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and 4,000+ of their own service members, gave rise to ISIS and cost their treasury $1 trillion Loonies? Remember that? That was awesome.
I don't remember that.
I must have been drunk for that.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
Bullshit. Rummy claimed it would be a cakewalk, the US would be welcomed as liberators, democracy would flow from the ME and it would cost less than half a billion dollars. Predicted my ass. Nice revisionism, professor.
Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
Bullshit. Rummy claimed it would be a cakewalk, the US would be welcomed as liberators, democracy would flow from the ME and it would cost less than half a billion dollars. Predicted my ass. Nice revisionism, professor.
Basically everything you wrote is true. But must add that President cheney, along with rove and rumsfeld, didn't have a plan to get out if the U.S. was not greeted warmly. There was a plan, years in the making, to get in and get rid of the Iraqi govt. but NO follow up.
No plan was the plan. Despite the fact that most people don't believe a word that comes out of rummy's mouth, we are to take his statements about how the war would go at face value? Guess he was just wrong! Bullshit. They knew exactly how it would play out. Everyone with even a passing interest in the war knew the 'exit strategy' issue; it was all over mainstream media well before the invasion. They knew perfectly well that the entire region would fall into chaos for decades after saddam fell. They knew it would spill into Syria and helped it happen to further their stated goal of regime change there. They planned the fall of gaddafi. They knew terrorism would increase worldwide. Destabilization and ethnic in-fighting throughout the Middle East and North Africa was the GOAL, not an unintended consequence. Believing it was a bunch of neoncon hawks bumbling their way thru a war of vengeance, with the poor dems left to pick up the pieces is ridiculous...it allows people to point a partisan finger, or to say 'I was wrong', with plausible deniability. Even more ridiculous is having anti-Islamic keyboard warriors pointing that partisan finger and calling for more of the same: thinly veiled (and mistaken) support for the 'best interests' of Israel, over world peace and security. The war, the lies, the criminal alliances, the results of the withdrawal....none of it gets a pass as an 'oops'. Single party foreign policy.
Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
Bullshit. Rummy claimed it would be a cakewalk, the US would be welcomed as liberators, democracy would flow from the ME and it would cost less than half a billion dollars. Predicted my ass. Nice revisionism, professor.
This is a consequences of withdrawal thread. I think you meant to post that in the Iraq invasion thread. Related yet different topics.
Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
Bullshit. Rummy claimed it would be a cakewalk, the US would be welcomed as liberators, democracy would flow from the ME and it would cost less than half a billion dollars. Predicted my ass. Nice revisionism, professor.
This is a consequences of withdrawal thread. I think you meant to post that in the Iraq invasion thread. Related yet different topics.
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How many Americans have to live the rest of their lives with debilitating injuries?
How many billions of American tax dollars were spent?
How many innocent Iraqis had to die, be injured, lose their homes and livelihoods?
All to backup dick cheneys hardon for Saddam Husein.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
this was not amazing foresight. the surge was implemented out of desperation. it was not part of the original plan. anything to the contrary is revisionist history and is not being genuine.
the original plan was we were going to be greeted as liberators with minimal loss of lives and the oil we steal was going to pay for the war. completely. wrong. on. all. points.
amazing foresight would have followed what cheney originally said and not gone to iraq in the first place.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
You spend hours jawing about government waste and all the typical conservative BS about government spending, but you literally don't give a fuck how much money gets spent on foreign occupations.
You are a trip, dude. Sometimes you make me think you are Limbaugh in disguise.
Gotta give you more credit than that though, I truly think you have a better grip on Harambe and the way evolution works lol
obama asked to stay longer. al maliki said no.
see status of forces posts from 8 pages ago.
what do you want the americans to do, stay there and occupy a hostile country for eons? put some skin in the game and have your country do it.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
A. Quagmire
B. Mistake
C. FUBAR
D. A long slog to gain nothing
E. About nothing other then dick/karl/don getting some sort of revenge
F. Increasing haliburtons wealth
G. All of the above
"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed".- Carl Jung.
"Art does not reproduce what we see; rather, it makes us see."- Paul Klee
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/62b113a9cf764acfa907a65506805e42/iraqi-officials-death-toll-claimed-car-bombing-iraqi
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-usa-idUSKCN0ZR0LT
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-military-seeks-more-troops-for-iraq-1474502709
That was awesome.
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But must add that President cheney, along with rove and rumsfeld, didn't have a plan to get out if the U.S. was not greeted warmly.
There was a plan, years in the making, to get in and get rid of the Iraqi govt. but NO follow up.
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Despite the fact that most people don't believe a word that comes out of rummy's mouth, we are to take his statements about how the war would go at face value? Guess he was just wrong! Bullshit. They knew exactly how it would play out. Everyone with even a passing interest in the war knew the 'exit strategy' issue; it was all over mainstream media well before the invasion. They knew perfectly well that the entire region would fall into chaos for decades after saddam fell. They knew it would spill into Syria and helped it happen to further their stated goal of regime change there. They planned the fall of gaddafi. They knew terrorism would increase worldwide.
Destabilization and ethnic in-fighting throughout the Middle East and North Africa was the GOAL, not an unintended consequence. Believing it was a bunch of neoncon hawks bumbling their way thru a war of vengeance, with the poor dems left to pick up the pieces is ridiculous...it allows people to point a partisan finger, or to say 'I was wrong', with plausible deniability. Even more ridiculous is having anti-Islamic keyboard warriors pointing that partisan finger and calling for more of the same: thinly veiled (and mistaken) support for the 'best interests' of Israel, over world peace and security. The war, the lies, the criminal alliances, the results of the withdrawal....none of it gets a pass as an 'oops'.
Single party foreign policy.