Letterman maybe requested that song? It's a possibility. Maybe that song had some meaning between Eddie and Dave? "Critics" really have no clue...none as to why that song was chosen.
If you didn't like it, don't watch it again...lol. Maybe stop watching the band altogether? If you liked it, watch it again. It's really that simple.
I'm not being an asshole. I'm reasonably discussing the performance. I find it hard to believe you really think thst people who didn't love it shouldn't say anything. I actually think that a discussion about Better Man as a tribute song is a really good discussion for hard core fans myself.
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
Post edited by Kat on
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Letterman maybe requested that song? It's a possibility. Maybe that song had some meaning between Eddie and Dave? "Critics" really have no clue...none as to why that song was chosen.
If you didn't like it, don't watch it again...lol. Maybe stop watching the band altogether? If you liked it, watch it again. It's really that simple.
I'm not being an asshole. I'm reasonably discussing the performance. I find it hard to believe you really think thst people who didn't love it shouldn't say anything. I actually think that a discussion about Better Man as a tribute song is a really good discussion for hard core fans myself.
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
it is just as possible that Dave just likes the song without thinking Ed playing it would make it about Dave.
Loved it! As far as the criticism in this thread, It doesn't bother me at all. I think as huge fans we can sometimes feel sensitive about TV appearances and such because we want PJ to be well represented to the masses. I thought he did a great job of bringing some real RnR. Wife and I both agree he looked fantastic. Nice suit, lookin' fit, and his face looks natural to us. PS- don't pick on people for the way they handle ageing. Its' not easy, especially when you are famous and people are so critical. Ed remains passionate, talented, charming, sincere, classy, raw, real and super cool.
I think people earlier in this thread mentioned that Dave has been on the record saying Betterman is his favorite PJ song. My Moms favorite PJ song is Release, if she could have PJ play a song for her it would be Release even though the subject matter doesn't have any meaning to her.
Letterman maybe requested that song? It's a possibility. Maybe that song had some meaning between Eddie and Dave? "Critics" really have no clue...none as to why that song was chosen.
If you didn't like it, don't watch it again...lol. Maybe stop watching the band altogether? If you liked it, watch it again. It's really that simple.
I'm not being an asshole. I'm reasonably discussing the performance. I find it hard to believe you really think thst people who didn't love it shouldn't say anything. I actually think that a discussion about Better Man as a tribute song is a really good discussion for hard core fans myself.
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
it is just as possible that Dave just likes the song without thinking Ed playing it would make it about Dave.
Maybe. But my first assumption is not that Dave requested a song. That isn't how it usually goes, is it?
Not a huge deal really... it's just that even though I'm not a big fan of the song, I always really appreciated the reason behind it, given Eddie's very rare position as a vocal male feminist. I don't underestimate the power thst men like that can have. So i feel like all this joyful singalong stuff and using it as a tribute to people ruins a little something for me that actually mattered, so I can't help but focus on that. Whatever the circumstances last night, I'm a bit sad about what's become of the song.
Post edited by Kat on
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Letterman maybe requested that song? It's a possibility. Maybe that song had some meaning between Eddie and Dave? "Critics" really have no clue...none as to why that song was chosen.
If you didn't like it, don't watch it again...lol. Maybe stop watching the band altogether? If you liked it, watch it again. It's really that simple.
I'm not being an asshole. I'm reasonably discussing the performance. I find it hard to believe you really think thst people who didn't love it shouldn't say anything. I actually think that a discussion about Better Man as a tribute song is a really good discussion for hard core fans myself.
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
Seriously PJsoul seems like you've been negative here lately and time for a break from the board.
Seriously PJsoul seems like you've been negative here lately and time for a break from the board.
if not that, then definitely a time out !!!
1998 ~ Barrie
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
Letterman maybe requested that song? It's a possibility. Maybe that song had some meaning between Eddie and Dave? "Critics" really have no clue...none as to why that song was chosen.
If you didn't like it, don't watch it again...lol. Maybe stop watching the band altogether? If you liked it, watch it again. It's really that simple.
I'm not being an asshole. I'm reasonably discussing the performance. I find it hard to believe you really think thst people who didn't love it shouldn't say anything. I actually think that a discussion about Better Man as a tribute song is a really good discussion for hard core fans myself.
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
Seriously PJsoul seems like you've been negative here lately and time for a break from the board.
Gee, thanks for your concern (would have loved to see what Kat had to edit out there).
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Letterman maybe requested that song? It's a possibility. Maybe that song had some meaning between Eddie and Dave? "Critics" really have no clue...none as to why that song was chosen.
If you didn't like it, don't watch it again...lol. Maybe stop watching the band altogether? If you liked it, watch it again. It's really that simple.
I'm not being an asshole. I'm reasonably discussing the performance. I find it hard to believe you really think thst people who didn't love it shouldn't say anything. I actually think that a discussion about Better Man as a tribute song is a really good discussion for hard core fans myself.
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
it is just as possible that Dave just likes the song without thinking Ed playing it would make it about Dave.
"edited by kat". but this is exactly what I typed. ???
Wierd hug, rough and weak voice, old, wierd timing, Botox, rusty .... And he rocked out too much
This place is hilarious, I think my favourite is the resident Botox expert.
Why not enjoy the performance and not feel the need to critique every fucking moment and detail. Truely pathetic here today.
Loved it. Ed absolutely has it still.
Thank you!
2000: Noblesville, IN 2010: Noblesville, IN 2011: PJ20 Night 1 2013: Wrigley Field, Baltimore 2014: St. Louis 2016: Lexington, Fenway I, Wrigley I, Temple of the Dog - NYC 2017: EV solo - Louisville 2018: Wrigley 1 2022: St. Louis 2023: Austin 1 & 2 2024: Vegas 1, Noblesville, IN, Wrigley 2
Letterman maybe requested that song? It's a possibility. Maybe that song had some meaning between Eddie and Dave? "Critics" really have no clue...none as to why that song was chosen.
If you didn't like it, don't watch it again...lol. Maybe stop watching the band altogether? If you liked it, watch it again. It's really that simple.
I'm not being an asshole. I'm reasonably discussing the performance. I find it hard to believe you really think thst people who didn't love it shouldn't say anything. I actually think that a discussion about Better Man as a tribute song is a really good discussion for hard core fans myself.
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
Seriously PJsoul seems like you've been negative here lately and time for a break from the board.
Letterman maybe requested that song? It's a possibility. Maybe that song had some meaning between Eddie and Dave? "Critics" really have no clue...none as to why that song was chosen.
If you didn't like it, don't watch it again...lol. Maybe stop watching the band altogether? If you liked it, watch it again. It's really that simple.
Some people just try to be assholes for the sake of being an asshole. Good job...at least they're successful at something...right?
I'm not being an asshole. I'm reasonably discussing the performance. I find it hard to believe you really think thst people who didn't love it shouldn't say anything. I actually think that a discussion about Better Man as a tribute song is a really good discussion for hard core fans myself.
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
it is just as possible that Dave just likes the song without thinking Ed playing it would make it about Dave.
Maybe. But my first assumption is not that Dave requested a song. That isn't how it usually goes, is it?
Not a huge deal really... it's just that even though I'm not a big fan of the song, I always really appreciated the reason behind it, given Eddie's very rare position as a vocal male feminist. I don't underestimate the power thst men like that can have. So i feel like all this joyful singalong stuff and using it as a tribute to people ruins a little something for me that actually mattered, so I can't help but focus on that. Whatever the circumstances last night, I'm a bit sad about what's become of the song.
I really don't know. I don't know how any of that type of stuff works. It was just mentioned a few times from folks who claim to be "in the know" that Dave requested it. that's what I was going with.
I'm totally guessing here, but maybe EV didn't want to play a true Pearl Jam song without the rest of the band with him. The song obviously became popular because of PJ, but the song is Ed's long before PJ.
6/29/98 Chicago-United Center
6/18/03 Chicago-United Center
5/17/06 Chicago-United Center
7/19/13 Chicago-Wrigley Field
10/11/13 Pittsburgh-Consol Energy Center
10/17/14 Moline-IWireless Center (No Code)
10/20/14 Milwaukee-Bradley center (Yield)
4/26/16 Lexington-Rupp Arena
8/20/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/22/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field 8/18/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field 8/20/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field 9/5/23 Chicago-United Center 9/7/23 Chicago-United Center
Letterman maybe requested that song? It's a possibility. Maybe that song had some meaning between Eddie and Dave? "Critics" really have no clue...none as to why that song was chosen.
If you didn't like it, don't watch it again...lol. Maybe stop watching the band altogether? If you liked it, watch it again. It's really that simple.
Some people just try to be assholes for the sake of being an asshole. Good job...at least they're successful at something...right?
I'm not being an asshole. I'm reasonably discussing the performance. I find it hard to believe you really think thst people who didn't love it shouldn't say anything. I actually think that a discussion about Better Man as a tribute song is a really good discussion for hard core fans myself.
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
it is just as possible that Dave just likes the song without thinking Ed playing it would make it about Dave.
Maybe. But my first assumption is not that Dave requested a song. That isn't how it usually goes, is it?
Not a huge deal really... it's just that even though I'm not a big fan of the song, I always really appreciated the reason behind it, given Eddie's very rare position as a vocal male feminist. I don't underestimate the power thst men like that can have. So i feel like all this joyful singalong stuff and using it as a tribute to people ruins a little something for me that actually mattered, so I can't help but focus on that. Whatever the circumstances last night, I'm a bit sad about what's become of the song.
I really don't know. I don't know how any of that type of stuff works. It was just mentioned a few times from folks who claim to be "in the know" that Dave requested it. that's what I was going with.
Fair enough. Maybe it did go down like that. Really, this isn't a big deal... just bringing up my feelings about Better Man. I know most don't care, but it's an issue for me.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Letterman maybe requested that song? It's a possibility. Maybe that song had some meaning between Eddie and Dave? "Critics" really have no clue...none as to why that song was chosen.
If you didn't like it, don't watch it again...lol. Maybe stop watching the band altogether? If you liked it, watch it again. It's really that simple.
I'm not being an asshole. I'm reasonably discussing the performance. I find it hard to believe you really think thst people who didn't love it shouldn't say anything. I actually think that a discussion about Better Man as a tribute song is a really good discussion for hard core fans myself.
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
Seriously PJsoul seems like you've been negative here lately and time for a break from the board.
I don't find pjsoul negative at all.
Thanks man. I don't feel negative. Just being open and honest.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I couldn't stay up to watch Ed (had to get up at 5:30am) so I came here this morning to read everyone's comments before I watched the clip online. I can't believe how many people were negative about Ed's performance, I thought it was great! I thought he looked terrific too. I'm just so grateful any time I get to see Ed / PJ perform. I have no idea why people think he uses Botox. Maybe they're confused by the fact that people have to wear a lot of makeup for the tv cameras. In any case, whatever Ed decides to do to himself is HIS business. I was thrilled by his performance, makes me want to fly down to South America, LOL!
I escaped it...a life wasted...I'm never going back again
Letterman maybe requested that song? It's a possibility. Maybe that song had some meaning between Eddie and Dave? "Critics" really have no clue...none as to why that song was chosen.
If you didn't like it, don't watch it again...lol. Maybe stop watching the band altogether? If you liked it, watch it again. It's really that simple.
I'm not being an asshole. I'm reasonably discussing the performance. I find it hard to believe you really think thst people who didn't love it shouldn't say anything. I actually think that a discussion about Better Man as a tribute song is a really good discussion for hard core fans myself.
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
it is just as possible that Dave just likes the song without thinking Ed playing it would make it about Dave.
Maybe. But my first assumption is not that Dave requested a song. That isn't how it usually goes, is it?
Not a huge deal really... it's just that even though I'm not a big fan of the song, I always really appreciated the reason behind it, given Eddie's very rare position as a vocal male feminist. I don't underestimate the power thst men like that can have. So i feel like all this joyful singalong stuff and using it as a tribute to people ruins a little something for me that actually mattered, so I can't help but focus on that. Whatever the circumstances last night, I'm a bit sad about what's become of the song.
What's with all the well thought out paragraph responses you two? Haha! Seriously, can't you condense yourselves down to a few sentences or words? : )
Comments
Anyway, it occured to me that maybe Dave requested the song, but then rejected the idea. What kind of person would request a song that is specifically meant as a tribute to himself? Like, "hey Eddie, can you play me better man? Because, you know, you can't find a better man the me, hee hee!" I just can't see that happening. I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt it. This seems more like a song Eddie chooses as a song tribute to someone himself. He also played it as a song tribute to Jon Tester at his fundraising concert.
www.headstonesband.com
I thought it was Fantastic!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Not a huge deal really... it's just that even though I'm not a big fan of the song, I always really appreciated the reason behind it, given Eddie's very rare position as a vocal male feminist. I don't underestimate the power thst men like that can have. So i feel like all this joyful singalong stuff and using it as a tribute to people ruins a little something for me that actually mattered, so I can't help but focus on that. Whatever the circumstances last night, I'm a bit sad about what's become of the song.
Ed did great job.
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
www.headstonesband.com
2010: Noblesville, IN
2011: PJ20 Night 1
2013: Wrigley Field, Baltimore
2014: St. Louis
2016: Lexington, Fenway I, Wrigley I, Temple of the Dog - NYC
2017: EV solo - Louisville
2018: Wrigley 1
2022: St. Louis
2023: Austin 1 & 2
2024: Vegas 1, Noblesville, IN, Wrigley 2
www.headstonesband.com
www.headstonesband.com
I kid. Kat didn't do that.
6/18/03 Chicago-United Center
5/17/06 Chicago-United Center
7/19/13 Chicago-Wrigley Field
10/11/13 Pittsburgh-Consol Energy Center
10/17/14 Moline-IWireless Center (No Code)
10/20/14 Milwaukee-Bradley center (Yield)
4/26/16 Lexington-Rupp Arena
8/20/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/22/16 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/18/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field
8/20/18 Chicago-Wrigley Field
9/5/23 Chicago-United Center
9/7/23 Chicago-United Center
Really, this isn't a big deal... just bringing up my feelings about Better Man. I know most don't care, but it's an issue for me.
I liked it.
try not to over-analyze things people.
As far as the forum -- the more things change.. the more they stay the same.
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008