Baltimore

callen

Frank when one had all the power they have ability to do something. Other sides fked.

Dirtie_Frank

Other than giving people billions what more do we need to do? Should we just give people anything they want and hope things turn.

rr165892

This should help solve some problems.I see no race issue here.
http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_25406.shtml

backseatLover12

JimmyV said:

backseatLover12 said:

backseatLover12 said:

JimmyV said:

backseatLover12 said:

hedonist said:

Yeah, as Jimmy mentioned - poverty, lack of education (which has so many ripple-effects), lack of parent(s) and good parenting. Pretty sure there are more but that's a good start, I think.

How about talking about racism though, it is the biggest part of the entire police brutality epidemic going on in this country, and is a HUGE part of these riots.

Racism is brought up over and over again, and racism is discussed over and over again. What we saw last night wasn't the result of racism or even police brutality. Unemployment, poverty, a malfunctioning school system, gang culture...all of these things create a powder keg of a situation. Its too easy and too common to focus just on racism.

Please show me where there is a discussion on these boards about racism.

What happened last night is a result of continuous break down between the police force and the inner city neighborhood youth of Baltimore. Unemployment and poverty just goes hand in hand with life in the inner city for minorities. It's not a result and it's not the cause of riots that are really about a man who died in police custody, whom the police refuse to release details of.

Still looking for all that discussion and threads on here on racism...

Race plays a part in every discussion of the police and every discussion of guns on this board and has the entire time I've been here. You yourself started a thread recently specifically about the topic.

http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/243597/video-on-race-responsibility-in-america#latest
No one except for Brian and Callen participating…

http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/243079/what-the-hell-happened-in-wisconsin/p1
This one was a gem. No matter how many times I tried to get the ball rolling on race and police brutality it was ignored the entire thread.

backseatLover12

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

brianlux said:

That surely seems to be the case H2M.

Racism in general is still a major problem in the US. I just received and email from a friend who said he is SO tired of racial profiling against him. And this guy is an Hispanic Franciscan Monk type- about as gentle a soul as you'll meet and this is "liberal" California we're talking about.

Racism has to end.

I said this earlier, but the only way racism will end if all parties admit to their faults. Their are all walks of life that perpetuate racist behavior. White people do not own the patent on racism.

But we own the power.

Whites certainly do. So we need to own up to it, take responsibility, and do something to change racism. Stop diverting the topic. Watch that video I posted in the race responsibility thread and let's get discussion going. (Not you Callen, it was directed toward everyone here).

Dead Man Walking

Some pretty powerful pictures out of Camden Yards today. Also, I can't find a clip but Adam Jones' interview was worth checking out if it becomes available.

JimmyV

Dead Man Walking said:

Some pretty powerful pictures out of Camden Yards today. Also, I can't find a clip but Adam Jones' interview was worth checking out if it becomes available.

Never seen anything like it before. Given what caused it, I hope we never see anything like it again.

hedonist

Dead Man Walking said:

Some pretty powerful pictures out of Camden Yards today. Also, I can't find a clip but Adam Jones' interview was worth checking out if it becomes available.

My baseball-ignorant ass thought you were talking about Tool's Adam Jones.

Looks like an eerie scene. Had to have felt so strange for the players.

backseatLover12

Jon Stewart Explains Everything That's Wrong In Baltimore Right Now

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/29/jon-stewart-baltimore_n_7168472.html

Indifference71

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

brianlux said:

That surely seems to be the case H2M.

Racism in general is still a major problem in the US. I just received and email from a friend who said he is SO tired of racial profiling against him. And this guy is an Hispanic Franciscan Monk type- about as gentle a soul as you'll meet and this is "liberal" California we're talking about.

Racism has to end.

I said this earlier, but the only way racism will end if all parties admit to their faults. Their are all walks of life that perpetuate racist behavior. White people do not own the patent on racism.

But we own the power.

Blaming one race will not work. People of all races need to come together. White and black. There are white people who would kill someone because they are black as well as black people who will kill someone because they are white. Until all in each group recognizes life is precious nothing will happen. Racism is not the only reason for problems in the black community. Lack of family is huge issue.

Yep.

backseatLover12

I love how some folks will try to blame Just about anything in order to steer away from racism.

hedonist

backseatLover12 said:

I love how some folks will try to blame Just about anything in order to steer away from racism.

I wonder if selective blinders have been strapped on, because many posts, even the one right above yours, have acknowledged it's A problem but not the sole one.

Why this keeps being pursued in such a fashion is beyond me.

BS44325

backseatLover12 said:

I love how some folks will try to blame Just about anything in order to steer away from racism.

And I like how some folks will try to blame just about anything on racism in order to steer away from liberalism.

Baltimore is predominantly black and has a black mayor and a black police chief. The state has had two republican governors since the 1960's and hasn't had a republican mayor since 1967. Every single member of Baltimore city council is a democrat. Yes racism still exists and this should always be addressed but Baltimore's problems are not race based they are liberal based.

JimmyV

Eliminating racism in Baltimore won't eliminate poverty, or fix the schools, or reestablish the family, or remove the gangs.

PJfanwillneverleave1

backseatLover12 said:

I love how some folks will try to blame Just about anything in order to steer away from racism.

backseatLover12

hedonist said:

backseatLover12 said:

I love how some folks will try to blame Just about anything in order to steer away from racism.

I wonder if selective blinders have been strapped on, because many posts, even the one right above yours, have acknowledged it's A problem but not the sole one.

Why this keeps being pursued in such a fashion is beyond me.

Maybe because it is still being ignored?

And is a national epidemic between police and minorities? There's no real discussion going on, everyone is deflecting it.

dignin

hedonist said:

backseatLover12 said:

I love how some folks will try to blame Just about anything in order to steer away from racism.

I wonder if selective blinders have been strapped on, because many posts, even the one right above yours, have acknowledged it's A problem but not the sole one.

Why this keeps being pursued in such a fashion is beyond me.

Because people, including yourself, keep trying to sidestep the biggest issue (systemic racism) with other issues. Those other issues are a problem, but they are not the root cause, pretending it's not is a lie.

Backseat is bang on.

BS44325

backseatLover12 said:

hedonist said:

backseatLover12 said:

I love how some folks will try to blame Just about anything in order to steer away from racism.

I wonder if selective blinders have been strapped on, because many posts, even the one right above yours, have acknowledged it's A problem but not the sole one.

Why this keeps being pursued in such a fashion is beyond me.

Maybe because it is still being ignored?

And is a national epidemic between police and minorities? There's no real discussion going on, everyone is deflecting it.

I'm pretty sure there is a discussion. Just turn on the tv. You can't escape the discussion. The problem is that you don't like the solutions.

hedonist

How is saying that it's a part of the problem deflecting? Who is to say your declaration of the root cause is "bang on"?

What exactly are the "you people just don't get it" folks looking for? I'd honestly like to know.

Dirtie_Frank

dignin said:

hedonist said:

backseatLover12 said:

I love how some folks will try to blame Just about anything in order to steer away from racism.

I wonder if selective blinders have been strapped on, because many posts, even the one right above yours, have acknowledged it's A problem but not the sole one.

Why this keeps being pursued in such a fashion is beyond me.

Because people, including yourself, keep trying to sidestep the biggest issue (systemic racism) with other issues. Those other issues are a problem, but they are not the root cause, pretending it's not is a lie.

Backseat is bang on.

What about the black people who are saying what I am that parents need to be involved, that it is not just about racism in Baltimore? Are they just Uncle Tom's ?