Do Aliens Exist?

PJfanwillneverleave1

Yes, and they have visited Earth

rgambs said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

So....
Yes or no?

Not sure what you mean?

Now that I see your vote makes it easier to converse.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Yes, and they have visited Earth

The thing that sucks about AMT is that you don't want to derail with internal reubkes but you get asked questions that will do the very deed.

OP- sorry.

HughFreakingDillon

Yes

rgambs said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Humans aren't an example of extraordinary intelligence? I couldnt disagree more.

The fact that we treat each other, not to mention our own home, the way we do, suggests otherwise.

Wisdom is different though.
If an alien life was intelligent enough to cross the galaxy, but did so because it wanted to subjugate us, or because it ruined it's own system with war, would that negate their intelligence?

Yes.

I have to disagree entirely. If a species can harness and control the physical laws and forces of the universe necessary to reach beyond their solar system they are certainly of extraordinary intelligence.

If you want to define intelligence as "treating each other nice and living in harmony" then myriad species are extraordinarily more intelligent than us right here. Fruit Flies, Finches, Squirrels, Pandas...none of them fight or spoil their environment.
Non-violence and harmony with nature don't define intelligence.

No, not on its own, correct. You cannot define an entire species by one characteristic. But, It is all about intent. Pandas dont destroy their environment because they dont know how! Lol. Humans have the ability to choose non-violence, but we do not. Thats pretty damn stupid, if you ask me.

But we are sliding off the rails a bit here.....what do you guys think of the recent few ex-military higher ups that are claiming we have not only been visited, but that they currently walk among us?

Last-12-Exit

No

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Humans aren't an example of extraordinary intelligence? I couldnt disagree more.

The fact that we treat each other, not to mention our own home, the way we do, suggests otherwise.

Wisdom is different though.
If an alien life was intelligent enough to cross the galaxy, but did so because it wanted to subjugate us, or because it ruined it's own system with war, would that negate their intelligence?

Yes.

I have to disagree entirely. If a species can harness and control the physical laws and forces of the universe necessary to reach beyond their solar system they are certainly of extraordinary intelligence.

If you want to define intelligence as "treating each other nice and living in harmony" then myriad species are extraordinarily more intelligent than us right here. Fruit Flies, Finches, Squirrels, Pandas...none of them fight or spoil their environment.
Non-violence and harmony with nature don't define intelligence.

No, not on its own, correct. You cannot define an entire species by one characteristic. But, It is all about intent. Pandas dont destroy their environment because they dont know how! Lol. Humans have the ability to choose non-violence, but we do not. Thats pretty damn stupid, if you ask me.

But we are sliding off the rails a bit here.....what do you guys think of the recent few ex-military higher ups that are claiming we have not only been visited, but that they currently walk among us?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Yes

hedonist said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

With regards to the 'timeline' aspect slightly referred to with regards to evolution, time goes infinitely backwards as it will forwards.

When was the 1st day? If you have an answer to that question, then what was before this first day?

With infinity in every direction, it is with mathematical certainty there is and has been another Earth and human beings... in many instances.

Did you take a bong hit before posting this? I have no ida what it means. ;lol

Deep thoughts by 30 Bills Unpaid lol

Oddly enough - or not - I got it

I'm not surprised. You rock.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

hedonist said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

With regards to the 'timeline' aspect slightly referred to with regards to evolution, time goes infinitely backwards as it will forwards.

When was the 1st day? If you have an answer to that question, then what was before this first day?

With infinity in every direction, it is with mathematical certainty there is and has been another Earth and human beings... in many instances.

Did you take a bong hit before posting this? I have no ida what it means. ;lol

Deep thoughts by 30 Bills Unpaid lol

Oddly enough - or not - I got it

I'm not surprised. You rock.

Jack handy was the best era of SNL.

HughFreakingDillon

Yes

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

With regards to the 'timeline' aspect slightly referred to with regards to evolution, time goes infinitely backwards as it will forwards.

When was the 1st day? If you have an answer to that question, then what was before this first day?

With infinity in every direction, it is with mathematical certainty there is and has been another Earth and human beings... in many instances.

Speaking of the first day, did you hear that scientists are now rethinking the big bang theory? Now they think it has always been there. Oddly enough, that's how most theists answer the question of "when did god appear?".

Crazy stuff. http://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.html

hedonist

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

hedonist said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

With regards to the 'timeline' aspect slightly referred to with regards to evolution, time goes infinitely backwards as it will forwards.

When was the 1st day? If you have an answer to that question, then what was before this first day?

With infinity in every direction, it is with mathematical certainty there is and has been another Earth and human beings... in many instances.

Did you take a bong hit before posting this? I have no ida what it means. ;lol

Deep thoughts by 30 Bills Unpaid lol

Oddly enough - or not - I got it

I'm not surprised. You rock.

Just saw this. Thank you!

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Last-12-Exit said:

Humans aren't an example of extraordinary intelligence? I couldnt disagree more.

On what basis would you disagree? How can you make this statement with absolutely no basis of comparison? You might be right... then again, you might be very wrong. With the stance you're taking in this thread, i would think you'd need more information before making this claim one way or the other.

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

rgambs said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Humans aren't an example of extraordinary intelligence? I couldnt disagree more.

The fact that we treat each other, not to mention our own home, the way we do, suggests otherwise.

Wisdom is different though.
If an alien life was intelligent enough to cross the galaxy, but did so because it wanted to subjugate us, or because it ruined it's own system with war, would that negate their intelligence?

Yes.

I have to disagree entirely. If a species can harness and control the physical laws and forces of the universe necessary to reach beyond their solar system they are certainly of extraordinary intelligence.

If you want to define intelligence as "treating each other nice and living in harmony" then myriad species are extraordinarily more intelligent than us right here. Fruit Flies, Finches, Squirrels, Pandas...none of them fight or spoil their environment.
Non-violence and harmony with nature don't define intelligence.

There are a lot of squirrels outside my place, and I see them fighting all the time.

Last-12-Exit

No

PJ_Soul said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Humans aren't an example of extraordinary intelligence? I couldnt disagree more.

On what basis would you disagree? How can you make this statement with absolutely no basis of comparison? You might be right... then again, you might be very wrong. With the stance you're taking in this thread, i would think you'd need more information before making this claim one way or the other.

The comparison is with the hundreds of thousands of life forms on earth.

If all of you can ASSUME life exists beyond this earth, why can't I ASSUME that we are an example of extraordinary intelligence? But that's a weak argument.

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Last-12-Exit said:

PJ_Soul said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Humans aren't an example of extraordinary intelligence? I couldnt disagree more.

On what basis would you disagree? How can you make this statement with absolutely no basis of comparison? You might be right... then again, you might be very wrong. With the stance you're taking in this thread, i would think you'd need more information before making this claim one way or the other.

The comparison is with the hundreds of thousands of life forms on earth.

If all of you can ASSUME life exists beyond this earth, why can't I ASSUME that we are an example of extraordinary intelligence? But that's a weak argument.

You totally can, but it just runs against your main argument, which is that you require proof before believing anything, so was just wondering.

Last-12-Exit

No

PJ_Soul said:

Last-12-Exit said:

PJ_Soul said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Humans aren't an example of extraordinary intelligence? I couldnt disagree more.

On what basis would you disagree? How can you make this statement with absolutely no basis of comparison? You might be right... then again, you might be very wrong. With the stance you're taking in this thread, i would think you'd need more information before making this claim one way or the other.

The comparison is with the hundreds of thousands of life forms on earth.

If all of you can ASSUME life exists beyond this earth, why can't I ASSUME that we are an example of extraordinary intelligence? But that's a weak argument.

You totally can, but it just runs against your main argument, which is that you require proof before believing anything, so was just wondering.

That's sort of my point. Theres no proof out there to prove we aren't the most intelligent life form in the universe.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

You said "im happy to make you wonder.". I dont know what that means.

i dibble the seed of wonder for you??..haha..you read the artιcle and you want more prοοfs now..

I continue to have trouble understanding you.

sorry..i guess its my fault..but..you vote yes..and you want proofs..what your heart tells you??

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Last-12-Exit said:

PJ_Soul said:

Last-12-Exit said:

PJ_Soul said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Humans aren't an example of extraordinary intelligence? I couldnt disagree more.

On what basis would you disagree? How can you make this statement with absolutely no basis of comparison? You might be right... then again, you might be very wrong. With the stance you're taking in this thread, i would think you'd need more information before making this claim one way or the other.

The comparison is with the hundreds of thousands of life forms on earth.

If all of you can ASSUME life exists beyond this earth, why can't I ASSUME that we are an example of extraordinary intelligence? But that's a weak argument.

You totally can, but it just runs against your main argument, which is that you require proof before believing anything, so was just wondering.

That's sort of my point. Theres no proof out there to prove we aren't the most intelligent life form in the universe.

if we are the most intelligent form of life in the universe, this universe is fucked up..

Last-12-Exit

No

Why? What does human intelligence have to do with the universe being fucked? Pretend we are the smartest life form, are we stupid enough to think we have any effect on the universe? Seems silly. But then again, I think it's silly to think there are aliens.

Godfather.

No

badbrains said:

So what's with this big ass universe? Why so much real-estate "just" for us?

don't know but I haven't met any of our E.T nieghbor's yet but if I do then I'll know.

Godfather.

Godfather.

No

Last-12-Exit said:

Humans aren't an example of extraordinary intelligence? I couldnt disagree more.

disagree, look at what man kind has accomplished in just the last 100 years, I think man is dangerous I also believe we use our intelligence like a weapon against ourselfs...fine line between genious and insanity right ? hahhahhahaha

Godfather.

rgambs

Yes

You can be both genius and insane, they don't preclude each other.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Last-12-Exit said:

Why? What does human intelligence have to do with the universe being fucked? Pretend we are the smartest life form, are we stupid enough to think we have any effect on the universe? Seems silly. But then again, I think it's silly to think there are aliens.

If not for this universe, I’m sure for this planet..but that is another story..
About the aliens now..the proofs are out there..you can find them in all human religions and all civilizations around the history..the Greeks, the Mayans, the Egyptians, the Chinese,the Mesopotamians,the Hopi’s,they all said the same story again and again..
Burning hedge plants and flying dragon’s??..they don’t have the right words to describe what they see and they call them the God’s..there are smart enough to do maths ,astronomy,mechanic, but when we came to that, we say it is their imagination??..
You can find proofs in some of the most famous renaissance paintings, like this..
http://theholyprepuce.tumblr.com/post/9291033916/the-baptism-of-christ-aert-de-gelder-1710..or this.. http://theholyprepuce.tumblr.com/post/9291033916/the-baptism-of-christ-aert-de-gelder-1710..or this.. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread850386/pg1..
The most of the people looking for proofs, but I’m looking for answers..
What happen to Los Angeles at 1942??..what happen to Rendlesham forest at 1980??..what happen to Phoenix at 1997??..what was that to Sao Paulo at 1986??..
How they build all those megalithic monuments around the world??..and I’m not talking only about pyramids or Stonehenge or the statues in Easter island..i’m talking about places like Angor Wat or the Suncity or the Nazca lines..and 50-60 places around the world..how my ancestors knew where is the right places to build their tembles in a way to make triangulars??..
I know there is a big part of ufo sightings we can explain..physical phenomenons or secret army technology..but you have to admit ..big part of all this phenomenon is still unexplained..what about the elongated skulls they found in Peru??..and the junk DNA??..ha..
Next time you think silly all of us who have a different bieleves of you, please think of it again..we just disagree here..
The truth was always out there..there is a war behind our backs..and of course you can wait for the aliens coming to your backyard..