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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    gimmesometruth27 wrote: »
    muskydan wrote: »
    "something is really fucked up when you are trained that "the number one rule is to go home at the end of your shift". that gives cops a very wide latitude in making decisions. it makes them believe that they are not accountable for their actions, which in most cases, is a fact"...

    You have no idea what you are taking about...Let me make this crystal clear to you....IF WE CANNOT PROTECT OURSELVES WE PROTECT YOU...it's very simple. Going home to our familes IS and ALWAYS will be number one. If you can't wrap your brain around that then you belong at the children's table w/ that shameful NYC mayor De Blasio. STAY SAFE ALL

    police work for me. they are civil servants who are employees who i pay with my taxes. i do not want police murdering unarmed people. period. you are not a judge. you are not a jury. you are not an executioner. period.

    What the heck do you know about Police work??? I have said this before, Police are not punching bags and if you attack or resist the Police expect very bad things to happen to eliminate the threat with death being a possibility. WE DON"T CARE WHAT YOU WANT, especially when we are fighting for our lives…OUR BOTTOM LINE IS ALWAYS TO GET THROUGH WITH OUR SHIFT SAFELY AND GO HOME TO OUR FAMILIES. How can you possibly not understand that?

    ALL first responder's would rather be JUDGED BY 12 than CARRIED BY 6….

    Stay SAFE
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Who paid the school tuition for all the 100s of kids that watched their dad's wither away to skin and bones and die from lymphoma? What do the police reps say about the lying and denying the cause of injury and death for fucking 8 years?
    Let me know because i could be way off base here and totally irrelevant but i certainly don't remember exponential outrage and declarations of war?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2014
    Hundreds of first responders from the nypd and the fdny are not home for Christmas this year as a result of lies and mismanagement.
    Giuliani became rich from Giuliani partners, Whitman cemented her role as a yes women and those poor bastards suffered and died.
    Yeah tell me more....
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I thought this was about two police officers being executed by some pompous scumbag arrested already almost 20 times, and who started off the day shooting his ex.

    Too bad the system allowed his release after what, the 10th, 13th, 15th time.

    I do feel outrage and sadness for these men, for their stupid loss of life, for the understatement saying "the pain" of their families and wives and children. There's no need to demand or provide outrage about other fucked up situations for the benefit of anyone here. No one's owed shit.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    JC29856 wrote: »
    Hundreds of first responders from the nypd and the fdny are not home for Christmas this year as a result of lies and mismanagement.
    Giuliani became rich from Giuliani partners, Whitman cemented her role as a yes women and those poor bastards suffered and died.
    Yeah tell me more....

    What's your point? That Giuliani lied? Ok. What's your point?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Disapproval, disrespecting and unprofessional towards the mayor. If they treat their boss that way how do they threat the thugs and criminals on the streets?
    Who gave the police an opinion anyway? Is that part of protecting and serving?
    Police mini protesting...

    The killing of the two police officers, which Police Commissioner William J. Bratton has called an "assassination," comes at a moment of heightened tension between Mayor Bill de Blasio and the Police Department.

    In a show of disapproval and disrespect, police officers, led by union officials, turned their backs to him on Saturday night when the mayor went to the hospital to talk about the two officers who were killed.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    So it's ok for everybody to protest except for policemen?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Skyhook!

    This shrill cry of “policism” (a form of reverse racism) by Pataki and the police unions is a hollow and false whine born of financial self-interest (unions) or party politics (Republican Pataki besmirching Democrat de Blasio) rather than social justice. These tragic murders now become a bargaining chip in whatever contract negotiations or political aspirations they have.

    In a Dec. 21, 2014 article about the shooting, the Los Angeles Times referred to the New York City protests as “anti-police marches,” which is grossly inaccurate and illustrates the problem of perception the protestors are battling. The marches are meant to raise awareness of double standards, lack of adequate police candidate screening, and insufficient training that have resulted in unnecessary killings. Police are not under attack, institutionalized racism is. Trying to remove sexually abusive priests is not an attack on Catholicism, nor is removing ineffective teachers an attack on education. Bad apples, bad training, and bad officials who blindly protect them, are the enemy. And any institution worth saving should want to eliminate them, too.

    http://time.com/3643462/kareem-abdul-jabbar-nypd-shootings-police/
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Look who shows up when the cameras are rolling and the spotlights are on, the police union reps and politicians ready to use the slaying of police officers to further self interests and political gain.
    The police and associations and mayor have been squabbling for months now so when both see an opportunity to further their interests, they pounce.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2014
    Delusional, more propaganda to further self interests. The facts seem to contradict this statement from Baltimore fop. When you're seeking unequivocal support of law enforcement to get away with murder and brutality who needs facts.

    Key word in all of this mess....OVERREACTION!

    http://www.fop3.org/
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Another good piece...
    For the state and its agents, “the ultimate expression of sovereignty resides, to a large degree, in the power and the capacity to dictate who may live and who must die,” the postcolonial scholar Achilles Mbembe wrote of his term necropolitics, which describe who, exactly, wields the power to kill. The fear inside that police union boss is not just about the actual violence which may befall his members; it’s a fear that the NYPD is in danger of losing its monopoly on the threat of violence. To Patrick Lynch (and to all of us), a cop’s killing is unacceptable. But to Patrick Lynch (and to too many white people), a cop acting as judge, jury and executioner is somehow acceptable.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/21/two-nypd-cops-killed-wartime-police-protesters?CMP=share_btn_tw
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    So sad. So tragic and pointless. What a waste of lives.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Nypd leadership...
    The head of the NYPD’s largest union again lashed out at Mayor de Blasio, claiming Hizzoner is “running a f---ing revolution” rather than a city.
    But Anthony Miranda, a retired NYPD lieutenant and chair of the National Latino Officers Association, called Lynch’s comments “alarmist.”

    “Lynch is feeding into the emotions of cops. That doesn’t lead to good relations,” Miranda said.

    http://m.nydailynews.com/news/politics/pba-president-blasts-de-blasio-runs-revolution-article-1.2050551#bmb=1
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Thirty bills, "Pants up dont loot" is 1 example of the joking that was posted in the MB thread.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    3 strikes and you're out like in Ca. Throw away the key for criminals both bad cops and bad fucken people.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    We cant afford to fill our jails with non-violent criminals caught in 3 strike programs any more than we already do.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    I believe it's 3 strikes and you're out in "felonies". I think that's the procedure.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    But, while every killing of an officer is a tragedy, it is worth noting, as my colleague Shane Bauer reported in the context of another story, assaults and felony killings of police officers in the US are down sharply over the past two decades. Attention has also been focused on Brinsley's race, but FBI data shows that, though African Americans are arrested and incarcerated at a higher rate than whites, the majority of assailants who feloniously killed police officers in the past year were white.

    Some charts illustrating decrease in violent crime....
    http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/12/attacks-against-police-officers-are-in-decline
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    badbrains wrote: »
    I believe it's 3 strikes and you're out in "felonies". I think that's the procedure.

    I think your right.And also even as a gun owner I am all for min sentencing guidelines if firearms are used while committing a crime.We have the 10/20/life law here in Fl.I don't see it slow the violence,but on the other end maybe it helps.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2014
    3 strikes won't work if the strikezones for cops and citizens aren't the same. Based on recent events cops get an intentional pass no matter the circumstance.
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