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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Pat lynch to speak soon, let's see if he chooses vinegar or honey.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    hedonist wrote: »
    I thought this was about two police officers being executed by some pompous scumbag arrested already almost 20 times, and who started off the day shooting his ex.

    Too bad the system allowed his release after what, the 10th, 13th, 15th time.

    I do feel outrage and sadness for these men, for their stupid loss of life, for the understatement saying "the pain" of their families and wives and children. There's no need to demand or provide outrage about other fucked up situations for the benefit of anyone here. No one's owed shit.

    Winner.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    JimmyV wrote: »
    In this thread, the problem is a piece of shit who wanted to shoot his girlfriend and murder police officers. Any police officers. End of story.

    not far behind in 2nd.

    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Profound statements from the mouth of pat lynch


    June 2000: Lynch argued that Bruce Springsteen’s song about four NYPD officers shooting and killing an unarmed 23-year-old name Amadou Diallo was interfering with those (acquitted) officers’ “healing”:

    Singer Bruce Springsteen has begun performing in concert a song called “American Skin”—the title seems to suggest that the shooting of Amadou Diallo was a case of racial profiling—which keeps repeating the phrase, “Forty-one-shots.” I consider it an outrage that he would be trying to fatten his wallet by reopening the wounds of this tragic case at a time when police officers and community members are in a healing period, and I have let his representatives and the press know how I feel about this song.

    http://gawker.com/nypd-union-president-patrick-lynch-is-completely-nuts-1674178970
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I'll give Jc credit, no matter the criticism, he just keeps plowing through. No matter how insane his posts get.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Insane lynch is insane

    November 2013: Lynch accused the police department’s internal affairs unit of wearing “white socks” and fabricating evidence to indict fellow cops for fixing tickets:

    Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association boss Pat Lynch showed up outside court with about 200 cops and union officials and slammed Bronx District Attorney Robert Johnson and Internal Affairs. Johnson and prosecutors, he said, “were tripping on each other and didn’t even know their own case…we do not believe this was a proper investigation.” Internal Affairs, Lynch declared, is a “white socks entity” that “is constantly on a witch hunt.”

    “They’re unprofessional, they never prove a case. They don’t go after real corruption, they go out where the police officers are, wearing white socks, and then they fabricate from there. They’re not real professionals. When the truth comes out these wrongfully accused police officers will be vindicated.”
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Hours after two NYPD officers were shot dead in their patrol car on Saturday, a memo attributed to the city's largest police union urged its 23,000 active members to not write any summonses or make any arrests unless "absolutely necessary." "We have, for the first time in a number of years, become a 'wartime' police department," the memo stated. The Patrolmen's Benevolent Association disavowed the memo, but their members turned their backs to the mayor at the hospital. Their stridency fits a pattern: for decades, police unions have done seemingly outrageous things to gain leverage for their members.
    Cont...

    http://gothamist.com/2014/12/22/police_unions_nypd.php
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Fox affiliate... Media maybe are to blame for police brutality
    From
    We can't stop!
    We won't stop!
    'til killer cops are in cell blocks!

    To

    We can't stop!
    We won't stop!
    So kill a cop!

    Fox "news"

    FOX News Edits Protest Video To Show Protesters C…: http://youtu.be/ibeZCkHwb-I
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2014
    I guess they could have improvised and changed a verse or two...
    Sharpton's "Go Kill A Cop" march in Wash DC: http://youtu.be/qZfbrItDvrU

    By cutting away from the video mid-chant, FOX's segment paints protestors as explicitly calling for the murder of police. They've depicted a non-violent protest about accountability for police brutality as a bloodthirsty mob.

    What's significant about this act – other than the fact that it is intended for and will be gobbled up by psychotic paranoid racist conservative white people as evidence of the inherent criminality of black people – is that the woman leading the chant is Tawanda Jones, the sister of Tyrone West, who was murdered by Baltimore City Police on July 18, 2013. The West family's quest for justice for this crime has been overwhelmingly ignored by the city of Baltimore – after 73 weeks' worth of "West Wednesday" actions, the family has still not even been given Tyrone's full autopsy report.
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    Last-12-Exit wrote: »
    I'll give Jc credit, no matter the criticism, he just keeps plowing through. No matter how insane his posts get.

    NO Kidding, I usually can only read one or two sentences before my head starts to hurt, but there is laughter often involved so there is a entertainment element. I wonder how the bands that he says he manages feel about all the time he seems to have looking up all this nonsense?? On second thought they have to stink too so never mind.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2014
    Whoever posted about the pokemon cards deserves credit....that was fu(king funny. Made my sinuses hurt.

    I'm issuing a self imposed ban on posting for violating the spirit and intent of these forums. I would be a hypocrite if I demand accountability of others without being accountable myself.
    I sincerely apologize to anyone who missed the point of any of my posts and those that suffered butt-hurt of any kind.
    Take care and Happy New Year!
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  • wall232
    wall232 New York Posts: 1,346
    Looks like they got what they wanted. Yep, no one saw what happened on Saturday coming at all with all these "peaceful protest".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8&feature=player_embedded
    NYPJ
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    JC29856 wrote: »
    Whoever posted about the pokemon cards deserves credit....that was fu(king funny. Made my sinuses hurt.

    I'm issuing a self imposed ban on posting for violating the spirit and intent of these forums. I would be a hypocrite if I demand accountability of others without being accountable myself.
    I sincerely apologize to anyone who missed the point of any of my posts and those that suffered butt-hurt of any kind.
    Take care and Happy New Year!
    You know...until the passive-aggressive bullshit I've bolded for your reference, I was willing to give you some benefit of the doubt. Why bother taking the time for this, if insincere?

    And, it's fine if my admittedly-tiny opinion does nothing to help you see a different view.

    Per the old man himself, "doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Good. Maybe now we can resume some reasonable discussion.

    Neil as "the old man himself". Love that, Hedo! :-)
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Sea
    Sea Posts: 3,127
    edited December 2014
    Reminder: Posting Guidelines
    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/228366/forum-posting-guidelines
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    brianlux wrote: »
    Good. Maybe now we can resume some reasonable discussion.

    Neil as "the old man himself". Love that, Hedo! :-)

    Ahmen to that….
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Good reminder. Thanks Sea.

    So the question that comes to my mind is, how do we resolve this? I think it's got to start with better police training, training and higher standards and somehow infuse the idea that cops first priority is to serve. There's too much power involved in the psyche of a cop. That needs to be replaced with a more samurai mind set of service.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,359
    brianlux wrote: »
    Good reminder. Thanks Sea.

    So the question that comes to my mind is, how do we resolve this? I think it's got to start with better police training, training and higher standards and somehow infuse the idea that cops first priority is to serve. There's too much power involved in the psyche of a cop. That needs to be replaced with a more samurai mind set of service.

    we as citizens can start by investigating what our respective PD's are requiring to hire for a start then see what the training entails, find out the mission statement and how leadership promotes that.
    We just had a deal with an officer trying to get his job back during an admin hearing run by the Chief herself. Transcript was offered or requested and given for publishing. She did what I would expect the leader of our department do. Hold her juniors accountable. ( he had an unregistered CI and bought drugs from her. He was a beat cop. Had an addiction himself. No way he should have had a CI. per policy)

    The other is to be informed of moves from PD and Public Safety Depts in out locales. Pay Attention to whats going on in our communities and speak out to those who are accountable for it. Namely your mayors.

    Until we can understand that much in our respective communities , we will only be offering unreachable ideal scenarios. My thoughts anyway.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I don't know that it CAN be resolved, Brian - at least not completely. To do that would be to go against the grain of being human. Anger, misunderstandings, jumping to conclusions on both sides...and from the sidelines...it happens. Sure, it shouldn't...but it does.

    That power is prime for some officers. Some are the personification of what the career calls for.

    Maybe it comes down to accountability, across the board.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Well, it's true Hedo- I always ask a lot of people including myself- maybe too much. I guess I figure if we shoot for the sky we might at least keep from fall off the bottom rung.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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