BIlly Corgan talks shit on PJ on Howard Stern show..

Gern Blansten

yeah the "not even close" thing is pretty stupid. I like a few pumpkins tunes (zero, cherub rock) but to say their catalog is better than PJ is insane.

Remember the "Tonight Tonight" video? abysmal

JV130312

bootlegger10 said:

I always thought Howard was a fan of Pearl Jam.

He's actually a big fan and praises them a lot. He listens to them a lot as well. He's not always up to date with all their recent music, but anytime he hears them he also praises them.

wnh1977

RS151862 said:

Billy apparently thinks he's some combination of John Lennon and Jesus...

When asked about great contemporaries Robin suggested PJ
Billy "NO, not even close"
Howard "Why, would you say they're derivative?"
Billy "Absolutely, the work speaks for itself... I don't think they have the songs"
Howard "How have they lasted so long if they don't have the songs?"
Billy "That's a mystery to me, I don't get it."

When asked about Ed
Billy "We were friends at one point... A lot of people are transformed by fame. I knew one person, now there's another person"

he also went on to talk shit on Dave Grohl and the FF's

I must have just missed the Pearl Jam conversation, but right when I tuned in, Howard and Corgan were talking about Eddie. To be fair with the Eddie segment, he said Eddie was on Time magazine and that Eddie got to a much higher level of fame than himself, so maybe that does something to a person. Yes, still dickish... but what do we expect from this guy?

I'm sure his PJ views would have pissed me off... but to play devil's advocate, even PJ has said that they try to write really simple songs these days, especially with the last two albums, because they are easier to perform live. His Foo Fighters slams had to do with that band not evolving or changing their sound. I don't see how anybody could say that's the case with PJ, but from the limited Foo Fighters I've heard I can see where people think they're a one-style pony. During the time I was listening to Stern this morning, seems like Cobain was the only guy Corgan gave any props to.

Overall, from the little bit I heard on Howard today, Corgan does seem like a douche who thinks he deserves more street cred because he was banging Courtney Love prior to Cobain coming along... weird.

JV130312

EnterThanman said:

Howard's not the problem, he asks questions that will get the guests talking; that's just a good interviewer. He asked Cornell about Eddie too, obviously Chris had good things to say. Billy Corgan is honestly a mad man, thinking everytjing he does is genius and important. Check out his poetry book for evidence. His lyrics were/are awful to begin with, no need for an entire book of that silliness.

^^^This.

Howard doesn't always ask the "Eddie Questions." They come up naturally. I highly doubt he's got a "thing out" for him.

Peacefrog1975

I can do without Howard, always thought he was an ass. Billy as someone who really dug your music in the 90's I have to say you are now irrelevant.

Indifference71

Billy is such a bitter douchebag.

JimmyV

tempo_n_groove said:

This is nothing new. Corgan has publicly stated this for years. To stir the pot a little too, Cobain was openly critical of PJ and Vedder too.

Its funny because I really do believe that had Cobain not committed suicide today he would have a career similar to Corgan's. The music wouldn't be remembered as being legendary - some of it would still be considered good, but it wouldn't have the iconic stature it does today. Gotta believe Dave would have left for bigger things. Cobain would have been left with a band similar in stature to the Smashing Pumpkins. Every time Corgan opens his mouth with one of these controversial/publicity seeking statements I think of Cobain.

pjradio

totallr disagree....but the guy is entitled to his opinion

RP112579

Poor guy, it has had to be tough playing second fiddle to EV and PJ all these years, even in his own hometown. This is such a pathetic ploy to get into the news so people can know that he has a new album. Pure desperation. Dude's a rubber.

Garasauras

It looks as though Corgan has pretty much managed to break up every relationship he's had with everyone at some point. He's so much about himself, and delusional enough to believe he's so far above everyone else. Usually those who criticize others, or those who are only able to focus on other peoples flaws, are usually those who are most unhappy within themselves. Misery looking for a companion..

But, I guess if I were Corgan and I had to rename my solo album after my old band, just to get exposure, just to watch it flop... I'd be somewhat angry at the world too..

shep

Didn't get to hear this interview today (nor the FF's last week... really need to listen to a recording of that one), but no doubt Corgan came off like he always does lately...

Let me start by saying: Big fan of Howard's interview style, despite the sometimes inane questions he asks people, but anyway...

People change... apparently except Billy Corgan. PJ, Soundgarden, Dave Grohl, they've all changed and grown since the 90's... I don't see that with Billy lately. He liked to think of himself as bitter and alone back then, and he comes off the same way now whenever he's interviewed. Before it was charming as he was a young rocker, inexperienced, with a bleek outlook on life - now it's dishartening as the limelight has passed him by and he's bitter about it, and the fact that he had to share it with others.

You can be gaurenteed if Cobain was alive today, Billy would have been hating on him, not praising him. He seems jealous of anyone who's sustained success while he could not find the means to do so. that's the bottom line.

So at this point he's really going to say anything that would garner people's attention - and Howard picks and pokes you in a interview to get you into saying those things that generate national media attention. Howard's ego loves it when he entices a celebrity to reveal something on his show that has never been dug out before - it's his way of saying "hey - I'm as good as any interviewer on the planet".

Anyway... I think Ed comes up in a lot of interviews because Howard generally likes that genre of rock and would like to have him come in. it's that simple, when you're interviewing a lot of people who are frequently around someone you'd like to meet, don't you think that person would come up in conversation fairly regularly...

and I typed an essay again where i meant to type a paragraph... whooops... back to work.... hopefully I'll catch this interview later the week instead of sharon osbourne again.... pppppppppppffffffffffffffttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt ~X(

RoleModelsinBlood31

I love Mellon collie but that was the pumpkins' height of fame. He's an angry man now and all of his former band has left. No d'arcy, no jimmy chamberlin, no James iho.... What does that tell you about him- he's like axl rose, nobody likes him.

my2hands

who is Billy Corgan? lol

Peacefrog1975

my2hands said:

who is Billy Corgan? lol

+1 HaHa!

Last-12-Exit

Here's ny thing with Corgan. The dude made a few great cds in the 90s and is no doubt a musical genius. But he took a page right out of Axel roses playbook and fired his whole band (or they quit cuz they hated him.) He's tried to form SP under a new band and to be honest, it is fucking horrible. Even his songs from the 90's, when they're good they're good. But the bad song are aweful. Purely unlistenable.


Fuck corgan. He's a douche bag.

JLank11

If anyone wants to check out his show, he's playing tomorrow night in a 2500 seat arena in California. Tickets still available (ahem).

PJ_Soul

Billy Corgan is a douchebag. I don't know if he always was, but he sure is now. Dude, stop being such a bitch about everyone, and try to make some decent music again.

PhillyCrownOfThorns

CitizenRick said:

I am pissed! I know that's ridiculous. The Stern show reaches millions of people ... and I hate that the "dummies" now think Pearl Jam is derivative. I love the show ... and Howard, but he has an agenda when it comes to Eddie/PJ because he/they have rejected any interest on being guests. Sadly, Billy (who is very talented) has become more wrestler than musician.

My first reaction is "No way".

Howard loves Rock & Roll and is absolutely fascinated by the life style and creative process of a musician. His interviews of rock legends this year have been awesome. He is very in tune with the early 90's having interviewed CC, Courtney, Dave Grohl, and Billy so many times. Natalie Maines is a friggin super fan!

That being said, there is definitely a part of Howard that is probably pissed that PJ has a Sirius/XM channel and has never been on the show. And you know what, I agree with him.

Dare I say it... I think the band should make an appearance on the show to market to a different audience. Maybe show a lighter side to themselves that many people don't see.

It's kind of a slap in the face to Sirius to shows like Fallon while skipping over Howard.

pdalowsky

I don't think Ed will be losing a wink of sleep over this.

one of these guys continues to be immensely popular around the globe, the other is living off his past .....Thought SP had some solid records early on, but somewhere along the way they went to shit. That probably stings a touch.

The North

I heard him on Sixx Sense (Nikki 6's radio show) last night. He said he will never work with a permanent line up anymore because he cannot negotiate the music with other people....meaning, it's his way or no way. He also mentioned that he cannot relate to people who have not achieved the same success as him!!

don't quote me on the exact words bu that was the theme.

Douche!