Yield

RockKing

PissBottleMan wrote:

It's strange...I don't remember how I picked out what to play...you would think that DTE would have been on there.

I distinctly remember early in '98 not liking LOWLIGHT that much...then, I couldn't stop playing it.

I introduced "BRAIN OF J" as, "...one of my favorites, thus far, off the new album....this is BRAIN OF JFK"

We had fun on "The Burnt Toast Show"

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I wish I could go back to hearing those songs for the first time again. I mean, I guess I don't want to give up all the knowledge I've gained about the album, but man, to pop that thing again, and hear the "1234 1234" again, and not ever realize what you're in for. That was the best feeling. And I agree, Brain of J was definitely a stand out track for me. Still is to this day.

RockKing

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

That is funny, no DTE or ATY.
I miss the radio already. I had a couple Avocado shows, WWS and Unemployable came out early I think...playing the Philly 05 boot the next night, talking to Patterson from DBT. Good times.

Did you get Ian on your show, or did you only talk to him for your class?

RockKing

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

That is funny, no DTE or ATY.
I miss the radio already. I had a couple Avocado shows, WWS and Unemployable came out early I think...playing the Philly 05 boot the next night, talking to Patterson from DBT. Good times.

You could always do a podcast. You'll miss out on live calls, but you could take email requests during the week between shows.

PissBottleMan

We played the hell out of Pearl Jam on that show...my co-host and I were pretty big fans (I went to my first show with him and PBW).

Other songs played on that YIELD night:

Evenflow
Alive
Betterman
Black (MTV Unplugged)
Jeremy (MTV Unplugged)
Sonic Reducer
Dissident
RVM
Light My Fire (w/ Ed on vocals from R&R HOF)

and for the Vinyl Solution portion of the program (a segment where I would dust off the station record player and play some wax) I played "45 of "Alone" that I found in a record store back in '97.

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PissBottleMan

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

I miss the radio already.

It's not that I miss radio that much...because it's been taken over by corporations...I miss college radio.

We were like 200 watts...we barely made it to the city limits, but I had some of the best times on my college radio show.

We did a similar Pearl Jam show when No Code came out in '96...that was one of our first shows.

"The Burnt Toast Show" was on-the-air during the peak Pearl Jam years.

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likepilateihaveadog

RockKing wrote:

Did you get Ian on your show, or did you only talk to him for your class?

Ian knew one of the professors at school and came to do a lecture, but I did get to say hi for a minute after the Evens show in Albany a few weeks ago.

He would've been a great guest though...he can talk.

distantsun

i missed a lot yesterday, huh?

time to read.

PissBottleMan

distantsun wrote:

i missed a lot yesterday, huh?

time to read.

I'm still waiting to debate the negative aspects of YIELD with you...I think there is some basis to my theory.

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fanch75

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

That is funny, no DTE or ATY.
I miss the radio already. I had a couple Avocado shows, WWS and Unemployable came out early I think...playing the Philly 05 boot the next night, talking to Patterson from DBT. Good times.

That Philly '05 show was one helluva YIELD show. Six songs from YIELD (Leathermand included). Hard to beat that.

likepilateihaveadog

PissBottleMan wrote:

It's not that I miss radio that much...because it's been taken over by corporations...I miss college radio.

True.

I know some college stations around here let community members have shows if they put in some volunteer hours helping out. Fairly free-format as far as I can tell.
I'll have to look into that one of these days.

RockKing

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

He would've been a great guest though...he can talk.

No doubt. Imagine what it's like when he and Henry Rollins get together.

likepilateihaveadog

fanch75 wrote:

That Philly '05 show was one helluva YIELD show. Six songs from YIELD (Leathermand included). Hard to beat that.

Yeah, it was an amazing show. With Hard to Imagine, Crown of Thorns, a great Alive, Crazy Mary, Free World. Nuts.

distantsun

RockKing wrote:

No doubt. Imagine what it's like when he and Henry Rollins get together.

two huge egos with one even bigger neck.

likepilateihaveadog

distantsun wrote:

two huge egos with one even bigger neck.

haaaa.

I wonder what Ed and Ian talk about whenever they're in DC.
I bet Ian asks him about YIELD the whole time.

RockKing

distantsun wrote:

two huge egos with one even bigger neck.

I'm not sure ego is the right word here. I mean, I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't call it ego. Well, maybe in Ian's case, but certainly not in Henry's. Henry is incredible self-depricating.....but he also believes that he's right. It's somewhere between ego and stubborness.

distantsun

PissBottleMan wrote:

I'm still waiting to debate the negative aspects of YIELD with you...I think there is some basis to my theory.

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i am up for this.

likepilateihaveadog

distantsun wrote:

i am up for this.

Maybe the people that were here last year remember, but I think part of this cuts to the 'escape' idea.

Is just running away a negative thing? Is that what is happening in YIELD?

Maybe the "there's still time to escape" line is getting at the fact that the character is still trapped in something, this box of fear brought on by social factors (Faithfull, DTE) and maybe can't escape at all (No Way?).

Is YIELD possibly getting at the idea, not of hope as we've imagined, but of no hope and the impossibility of change and adaptation on the individual level?

PissBottleMan

Wally made an interesting connection to Vanilla Sky...kind of hokey, but I tend to agree.

Are we asleep...is the album our wake up call from reality...or do we drift off and ignore the problems in order to create our own utopian reality.

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distantsun

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

Maybe the people that were here last year remember, but I think part of this cuts to the 'escape' idea.

Is just running away a negative thing? Is that what is happening in YIELD?

Maybe the "there's still time to escape" line is getting at the fact that the character is still trapped in something, this box of fear brought on by social factors (Faithfull, DTE) and maybe can't escape at all (No Way?).

Is YIELD possibly getting at the idea, not of hope as we've imagined, but of no hope and the impossibility of change and adaptation on the individual level?

I don't know much about last year in this thread but I think that the idea of escape, throughout yield, is definitely twofold. escape is bad if you're running for the sake of running, al a MFC. I don't think that is the same kind of scape that we see in ATY though. that is an escape in terms of surrender. not a cowardly surrender though. it's more in terms of putting the past to rest. or being comfortable with the challenges of the future.

likepilateihaveadog

distantsun wrote:

I don't know much about last year in this thread but I think that the idea of escape, throughout yield, is definitely twofold. escape is bad if you're running for the sake of running, al a MFC. I don't think that is the same kind of scape that we see in ATY though. that is an escape in terms of surrender. not a cowardly surrender though. it's more in terms of putting the past to rest. or being comfortable with the challenges of the future.

Right, and that's how I personally see it, but...
does the "there's still time to escape" allude to the fact that we have not escaped at all?

As an extension of Faithfull and No Way, maybe we're trapped in this box and we really have given up on trying to make a difference because in 2010, it's all going to fire anyway.

I guess my question is, does this hopeless reading of YIELD have any merit? Is there anything that hands-down discredits it?