Michael Brown Shooting

JimmyV

Gern Blansten said:

JimmyV said:

CNN had the blood spatter chart last night. It exists.

yeah...I just posted it above

Thanks.

rr165892

The actual distance is 21 ft.Blood trail leads away from cruiser then heads back 21 ft.Gun shots in car.Wilson story matches the evidence.So its time get on board with the facts.those pesky little facts.

mikepegg44

Keep stealing stuff, that will show them how mad you are over a young man's death. The media was praying for trouble, they got it. When every time they addressed the story they made sure to say black teen and white cop. They got what they wanted. When they kept talking up possible rioting, they got what they wanted. I will never support the cable "news" outlets again. I won't watch it, I won't go to their shitty websites...I am full on disgusted by how this was covered.

There is a dead teenager and it didn't need to happen. But it did and just because you want to believe he was killed because he was black doesn't make it so, and just because you want to believe the cop acted perfectly doesn't make it so.
This cop will forever have to remember the look on that young man's face. He will forever have to remember what he did and my guess is he will forever be haunted by what he could have done differently.

This is a terribly sad situation and I feel terrible for the family. The idiot group of idiot rioters has usurped there time of grief and made it about them and not about the young man who died and his grieving family.

Keep taking tv's, keep taking groceries, keep setting fire to shit...that will show the man... Worked in LA...things are perfect there now

Last-12-Exit

It's interesting to see these different reporters on the ground. You can tell by how they report which side of the debate they are on. CNN's Don Lemon and Sunny Hostin are clearly unhapoky with the grand jurys decision. Where Jake Tapper, Carol Costello, Mark Omeara, and Mel Robbins clearly support the decision. It's very obvious in how they are "reporting."

dignin

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:

JimmyV said:

CNN had the blood spatter chart last night. It exists.

yeah...I just posted it above

Thanks.

If I'm looking at this right, the blood evidence does make it look like movement toward Wilson. Supporting Wilsons version of events.

Godfather.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." - Soren Kierkegaard

Godfather.

Indifference71

rr165892 said:

The actual distance is 21 ft.Blood trail leads away from cruiser then heads back 21 ft.Gun shots in car.Wilson story matches the evidence.So its time get on board with the facts.those pesky little facts.

That's how it looks. Unfortunately, a lot of people have already made up their minds on this and will just ignore the facts.

Gern Blansten

If I'm looking at this right, the blood evidence does make it look like movement toward Wilson. Supporting Wilsons version of events.

cp3iverson

I'm disappointed that people cant look at the evidence, see that Wilson's story makes sense, and then move on. You can still use your passion to improve police/community/race relations but at least admit that you were wrong and go forward. So many people are blindly sticking by their views in this case.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

JC29856 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

JC29856 said:

rr165892 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Browns death is maybe the straw that breaks the camels back, or at least I hope so.

The system is broken.

I'm not saying the system does not have its flaws, but is it possible that the grand jury ruled correctly based on the evidence they had?

I've heard no shots in the back. I've heard Brown attacked several times. I've heard DNA on pants, shirt, and inside car of Wilson's. I've also heard many key witnesses recanted their testimony- saying they were influenced by social media.

They are releasing all the evidence from what I have heard. This should help make things a little clearer, but it really is hard to know what to think given the media playing us like fiddles over the last few months.

Browns blood is on handle and trigger of Wilson's gun.Ahhhh,how did it get there I wonder without browns hand being on the gun?Must be a conspiracy of the crime scene guys and DA and Police and Grand Jury civilians OR like many on here have stated Brown was at fault.He was criminal who disobeyed and tried to assault a cop and take his gun.Now idiots are burning it all down.Way to shine in the spotlight Ferguson.Classy.Im sure your message just got thru load and clear.....

I haven't seen this blood on handle and trigger evidence? If it was then it proves nothing other then blood traveling to handle and trigger which could have gotten there when Brown pushed the gun away when "Wilson shot in Brown's direction". If Brown's fingerprints or non blood dna which don't splatter and travel were found on trigger and handle then that's a completely different story.

Quit with the critical thinking.

I was going to say quit with the stubbornness (notice he never said anything about the witnesses recanting their testimonies, Brown's DNA in the car, no wounds in the back, and those other items that support the officer of the laws' version of events?).

I realize both of you have had your story straight the moment it broke on twitter. It must be very unsettling to discover your version of what happened wasn't exactly what occurred.

Both of you are reaching. It's possible we have been sold a bill of goods, but knowing what we know... buying the official explanation of Brown's death is a far cry from being asked to buy... say, Steven Biko's official explanation of death.

The information was just released 10 hours ago, once i read thru it, i will post my findings, I'm first looking thru Wilson's account. I haven't made my mind up because i haven't read thru all the info once i do i will make my mind up, until then go back to "stuff and nonsense".

Finally Wilson's real official story, not from Josie not from leakers, still no police report as required by law immediately after the incident.

Classic.

Because 'stuff and nonsense' is what you have been spewing for the past two weeks (remember the completely bizarre and intensely weird looking for my retainer and can't find it... nor can I find Wilson's story?).

Even as the story you fully bought into (the execution one) has completely unravelled... you still throw little jabs trying to discredit the officer (calling him a wuss and questioning the legitimacy of the evidence). I mean geezuz, man... the guy has been exonerated in an extremely high profile case and you still seek to throw the pitchfork into him. You hung him a long time ago.

JimmyV

I think for many this grand jury came to be about more than just the incident between Officer Wilson and Michael Brown. It became a referendum on the police response in the days and weeks after the shooting, and on race relations in general in this country. Those remain seperate issues and should have no impact on whether or not Officer Wilson should be indicted.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

JC29856 said:

rr165892 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Browns death is maybe the straw that breaks the camels back, or at least I hope so.

The system is broken.

I'm not saying the system does not have its flaws, but is it possible that the grand jury ruled correctly based on the evidence they had?

I've heard no shots in the back. I've heard Brown attacked several times. I've heard DNA on pants, shirt, and inside car of Wilson's. I've also heard many key witnesses recanted their testimony- saying they were influenced by social media.

They are releasing all the evidence from what I have heard. This should help make things a little clearer, but it really is hard to know what to think given the media playing us like fiddles over the last few months.

Browns blood is on handle and trigger of Wilson's gun.Ahhhh,how did it get there I wonder without browns hand being on the gun?Must be a conspiracy of the crime scene guys and DA and Police and Grand Jury civilians OR like many on here have stated Brown was at fault.He was criminal who disobeyed and tried to assault a cop and take his gun.Now idiots are burning it all down.Way to shine in the spotlight Ferguson.Classy.Im sure your message just got thru load and clear.....

I haven't seen this blood on handle and trigger evidence? If it was then it proves nothing other then blood traveling to handle and trigger which could have gotten there when Brown pushed the gun away when "Wilson shot in Brown's direction". If Brown's fingerprints or non blood dna which don't splatter and travel were found on trigger and handle then that's a completely different story.

Quit with the critical thinking.

I realize both of you have had your story straight the moment it broke on twitter. It must be very unsettling to discover your version of what happened wasn't exactly what occurred.

Both of you are reaching. It's possible we have been sold a bill of goods, but knowing what we know... buying the official explanation of Brown's death is a far cry from being asked to buy... say, Steven Biko's official explanation of death.

And what "story" might that be? I'm pretty sure I haven't had a "story" all along. You are welcome to go back in the thread and find out where I made up a "story" but I think you would be hard pressed.

I have always been sceptical of the police version. But at no time did I say Wilson was guilty or innocent. I have never had my version of the story. I've been trying to stick to the facts all along.

Please do not put words in my mouth.

I seem to recall that you were one of the several outspoken critics of Wilson.

If I'm mistaken then I apologize.

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I'm not sure that your findings will be any different than the grand jury's. If it is, you may be distorting the actual facts. And should we go ahead and indict Wilson for murder because of a police report that wasn't filed in a timely manner?

Last-12-Exit

How is that Crimp guy a lawyer? "It should be indicted. Because the system is broken!"

Seriously? Indict him because he's a black kid that punched a cop in the face and tried to take his gun. This guy is as bad Sharpton.

Gern Blansten

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7281165/darren-wilsons-story-side

Interesting view

JC29856

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7281165/darren-wilsons-story-side

Interesting view

Wow, someone else out there with the ability to actually think for themself comes to the same conclusion i did after reading Wilson's story.

JC29856

Now a question for the blood experts...hopefully cnn fox and other websites already answered this so you can post their version....
Is the 25 feet away blood, blood spatter, drops of blood, or the blood that flowed out of Brown's body for 4.5 hours it lay there dead? Or a combination....this is for the blood experts!

goingtoverona

I don't understand the compassion for this guy. he was a criminal, to the best of my knowledge he wasn't moonlighting as a paramedic or working on a cure for cancer. he was a thug, robbing and terrorizing people. if he wasn't a worthless thief, he'd still be alive, and if he just walked to the damn sidewalk, he would still be alive and likely enjoying his stolen tobacco. gonna take a page from joel osteens book and focus on the positive. Michael brown will never steal from, assault or terrorize another human being again.....ever. I can live with that.

badbrains

Fuck al sharpton, that is all.

Gern Blansten

Wow, someone else out there with the ability to actually think for themself comes to the same conclusion i did after reading Wilson's story.


yeah that's basically my opinion...I tend to side with the police but this one just smells bad