When a cop tells you to do something, comply. Chances are, you won't get shot.
I know that within every scenario there are different variables, people, mindsets.
But yes...this makes much sense. Common sense.
Last year I got pulled over for expired tags. I was surprised when the officer told me to keep my hands in plain sight (didn't feel I was a threat), but fuck me if I didn't comply. Why wouldn't I?
I'm not sure how that ties into this particular clusterfuck.
During the Brown protests some people questioned why mine resistant vehicles were deployed on the streets, why high power military grade rifles were deployed against citizens protesting what they deemed as unjust.
Thanks. This is much more informative for me than random links and photos.
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When a cop tells you to do something, comply. Chances are, you won't get shot.
I know that within every scenario there are different variables, people, mindsets.
But yes...this makes much sense. Common sense.
Last year I got pulled over for expired tags. I was surprised when the officer told me to keep my hands in plain sight (didn't feel I was a threat), but fuck me if I didn't comply. Why wouldn't I?
That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.
Actually, I like your posts.
You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.
We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card. Then drive away in their $30,000 car.
Hahaha
first drink in a bag is on me
Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers? Beat him to death.
Was that a hate crime? Hmmmm
and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?
Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect. Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.
You are correct. They cannot be compared.
One is a senseless crime, while the other is an act of self defence where an unruly criminal attacked an armed officer of the law and met his end as a result.
I don't disagree with this... All the more reason not to race-rile over it, while being a hypocrite and condemning Jackson and Sharpton.
You must have me confused with someone else or were directing this at someone else. I have said nothing about Jackson and Sharpton.
Charles Barkley had an interesting interview with CNN.....
Careful though, it doesn't fit the narrative that all police officers are racist murderers.
Do we really have to argue extremes? No one on hear is saying that all cops are racist murderers.
Most of us are just questioning whether justice has truly been served.
I've noticed the "other side" has trouble not putting words in our mouth. Easier to put us on the "other side" and make this black and white. We either believe Wilson's version or that of the "thugs" who riot.
No grey area here on the AMT sometimes.
You either hate cops....or love them. With us, or against us. Some Bush era shit right there.
Program 1033 It served two purposes for the ruling elite 1. Clears "equipment" from military so they can sell the US more better unnecessary "equipment" 2. Puts the "equipment" in local law enforcement hands to protect the ruling elite
Also benefits local law enforcement by giving them cool toys to play with.
Don't see much of this equipment in Chicago, but we sure can use it to fight our war on gangbangers. Can you do some research on how Chicago can get in on this free stuff??
Program 1033 It served two purposes for the ruling elite 1. Clears "equipment" from military so they can sell the US more better unnecessary "equipment" 2. Puts the "equipment" in local law enforcement hands to protect the ruling elite
Also benefits local law enforcement by giving them cool toys to play with.
Don't see much of this equipment in Chicago, but we sure can use it to fight our war on gangbangers. Can you do some research on how Chicago can get in on this free stuff??
You're helping in winning the "war"! Chicago crime at 56 year low! Good job!
Program 1033 It served two purposes for the ruling elite 1. Clears "equipment" from military so they can sell the US more better unnecessary "equipment" 2. Puts the "equipment" in local law enforcement hands to protect the ruling elite
Also benefits local law enforcement by giving them cool toys to play with.
Don't see much of this equipment in Chicago, but we sure can use it to fight our war on gangbangers. Can you do some research on how Chicago can get in on this free stuff??
That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.
Actually, I like your posts.
You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.
We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card. Then drive away in their $30,000 car.
Hahaha
first drink in a bag is on me
Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers? Beat him to death.
Was that a hate crime? Hmmmm
and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?
Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect. Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.
You are correct. They cannot be compared.
One is a senseless crime, while the other is an act of self defence where an unruly criminal attacked an armed officer of the law and met his end as a result.
I don't disagree with this... All the more reason not to race-rile over it, while being a hypocrite and condemning Jackson and Sharpton.
You must have me confused with someone else or were directing this at someone else. I have said nothing about Jackson and Sharpton.
Charles Barkley had an interesting interview with CNN.....
Careful though, it doesn't fit the narrative that all police officers are racist murderers.
Do we really have to argue extremes? No one on hear is saying that all cops are racist murderers.
Most of us are just questioning whether justice has truly been served.
I've noticed the "other side" has trouble not putting words in our mouth. Easier to put us on the "other side" and make this black and white. We either believe Wilson's version or that of the "thugs" who riot.
No grey area here on the AMT sometimes.
You either hate cops....or love them. With us, or against us. Some Bush era shit right there.
It's not Wilson against the criminals that looted Ferguson. For anybody to suggest that Wilson not being indicted is a good reason for what those idiots did to that town should be jailed along with those criminals.
If you want to make this a case of believing Wilson or not, I don't have a problem with that. But to say it's Wilson against the thugs is silly.
That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.
Actually, I like your posts.
You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.
We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card. Then drive away in their $30,000 car.
Hahaha
first drink in a bag is on me
Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers? Beat him to death.
Was that a hate crime? Hmmmm
and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?
Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect. Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.
You are correct. They cannot be compared.
One is a senseless crime, while the other is an act of self defence where an unruly criminal attacked an armed officer of the law and met his end as a result.
I don't disagree with this... All the more reason not to race-rile over it, while being a hypocrite and condemning Jackson and Sharpton.
You must have me confused with someone else or were directing this at someone else. I have said nothing about Jackson and Sharpton.
Charles Barkley had an interesting interview with CNN.....
Careful though, it doesn't fit the narrative that all police officers are racist murderers.
Do we really have to argue extremes? No one on hear is saying that all cops are racist murderers.
Most of us are just questioning whether justice has truly been served.
I've noticed the "other side" has trouble not putting words in our mouth. Easier to put us on the "other side" and make this black and white. We either believe Wilson's version or that of the "thugs" who riot.
No grey area here on the AMT sometimes.
You either hate cops....or love them. With us, or against us. Some Bush era shit right there.
Well what is the point to all the random links and stories of police corruption being posted? Both sides to this discussion are guilty of jumping to extremes to make their case... so don't point fingers at one without looking at the other.
Somebody is trying to say something and I'm not getting the impression that it is, "Cops are awesome!"
That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.
Actually, I like your posts.
You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.
We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card. Then drive away in their $30,000 car.
Hahaha
first drink in a bag is on me
Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers? Beat him to death.
Was that a hate crime? Hmmmm
and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?
Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect. Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.
disagree.....it's people killing and people dying.
Godfather.
So by that logic is a US soldier killing an Iraqi the same? Or is it different because they represent the government?
That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.
Actually, I like your posts.
You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.
We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card. Then drive away in their $30,000 car.
Hahaha
first drink in a bag is on me
Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers? Beat him to death.
Was that a hate crime? Hmmmm
and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?
Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect. Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.
You are correct. They cannot be compared.
One is a senseless crime, while the other is an act of self defence where an unruly criminal attacked an armed officer of the law and met his end as a result.
I don't disagree with this... All the more reason not to race-rile over it, while being a hypocrite and condemning Jackson and Sharpton.
You must have me confused with someone else or were directing this at someone else. I have said nothing about Jackson and Sharpton.
Sorry, the second part was directed at speedy, who trotted out that sad line that was generated by fox news.
Again, I fail to see where any of the brown supporters have put any of the blame on Brown. You've blamed the police, Darren Wilson, poverty, but not one of you guys have stood up and said "ya know, had brown just listened to this piece of shit cop, this wouldn't have happened."
If you are explaining this to your 8 year old child, what would the moral of your story be? Don't be black in st. Louis? Or don't be a dick when a cop tells you to move to the sidewalk?
Again, I fail to see where any of the brown supporters have put any of the blame on Brown. You've blamed the police, Darren Wilson, poverty, but not one of you guys have stood up and said "ya know, had brown just listened to this piece of shit cop, this wouldn't have happened."
If you are explaining this to your 8 year old child, what would the moral of your story be? Don't be black in st. Louis? Or don't be a dick when a cop tells you to move to the sidewalk?
Again, I fail to see where any of the brown supporters have put any of the blame on Brown. You've blamed the police, Darren Wilson, poverty, but not one of you guys have stood up and said "ya know, had brown just listened to this piece of shit cop, this wouldn't have happened."
If you are explaining this to your 8 year old child, what would the moral of your story be? Don't be black in st. Louis? Or don't be a dick when a cop tells you to move to the sidewalk?
what ???? there's no room for common sense on the train...stop it ! )
Where a police officer can break his profession's policies, choke someone to death on video, the death is ruled a homicide and he is not be taken to trail.
When a cop tells you to do something, comply. Chances are, you won't get shot.
I know that within every scenario there are different variables, people, mindsets.
But yes...this makes much sense. Common sense.
Last year I got pulled over for expired tags. I was surprised when the officer told me to keep my hands in plain sight (didn't feel I was a threat), but fuck me if I didn't comply. Why wouldn't I?
Very polite and professional fellow, by the way.
Personally, when I get pulled over I put both hands on the wheel as the officer approaches the car. It should tell a cop right from the start that I'm not a threat. (Not that you did any thing wrong btw, but in my opinion it's a good way to start the interaction...... You know, rather than saying something like "f what you have to say" and punching him in the side of the head. More often than not, that doesn't end well. Somehow people on this thread are still struggling with the idea that assaulting a police officer is a pretty major offense.)
That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.
Actually, I like your posts.
You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.
We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card. Then drive away in their $30,000 car.
Hahaha
first drink in a bag is on me
Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers? Beat him to death.
Was that a hate crime? Hmmmm
and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?
Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect. Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.
You are correct. They cannot be compared.
One is a senseless crime, while the other is an act of self defence where an unruly criminal attacked an armed officer of the law and met his end as a result.
I don't disagree with this... All the more reason not to race-rile over it, while being a hypocrite and condemning Jackson and Sharpton.
I don't understand how a person could come to the defense of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. Those two are the dregs of humanity.
Tell us how you really feel! I wonder what descriptors you save for rapists, murderers, and molesters. You may not agree with them, but these dregs have dedicated their lives to helping the underprivileged (though they certainly can be criticized for profiting as well). Jesse Jackson worked for Mr. King and was part of the marches from Selma to Montgomery for civil rights. What have YOU done with your life that makes you so far above these men who have donated thousands upon thousands of dollars and efforts to civil rights? For the record, I wasn't defending them, only pointing out the hypocrisy of folks (you included?) who run with those idiotic fox newsers.
Does the "if he would have done what the cop told him he would be alive" argument apply to this case as well?
I didn't even click on the link. I could care less if it applied to this case. When it pertains to the Brown case, it does apply. And your whites have no clue statement is utterly ignorant.
You Haves are the product of your environment. As was mike Brown. Your not special with special reasoning powers your just fucking lucky.
So now rather than bash the ignorance and throw out more hate do something positive. Be nice to your fellow human.
Whites have no clue.
Whites have no clue? Someone who condemns a convenience store robbery is a "have"? Frankly, that is bullshit.
There are plenty of whites who commit crimes and plenty of blacks who do not. This was never about race. It was about the dynamic between criminal and cop. Michael Brown committed a criminal act minutes before his death. That was no ones fault but his own.
Does the "if he would have done what the cop told him he would be alive" argument apply to this case as well?
I didn't even click on the link. I could care less if it applied to this case. When it pertains to the Brown case, it does apply. And your whites have no clue statement is utterly ignorant.
Like a lot of posts on here you fail to read who actually posts what. You may want to take a second look.
When a cop tells you to do something, comply. Chances are, you won't get shot.
I know that within every scenario there are different variables, people, mindsets.
But yes...this makes much sense. Common sense.
Last year I got pulled over for expired tags. I was surprised when the officer told me to keep my hands in plain sight (didn't feel I was a threat), but fuck me if I didn't comply. Why wouldn't I?
Very polite and professional fellow, by the way.
Personally, when I get pulled over I put both hands on the wheel as the officer approaches the car. It should tell a cop right from the start that I'm not a threat. (Not that you did any thing wrong btw, but in my opinion it's a good way to start the interaction...... You know, rather than saying something like "f what you have to say" and punching him in the side of the head. More often than not, that doesn't end well. Somehow people on this thread are still struggling with the idea that assaulting a police officer is a pretty major offense.)
That was a great movie and song, I would be honored. As I have said a few times already, the truth hurts, nobody ever wants to hear truth, especially in my business…all we want is the truth right??? Why is it that some people cannot handle opinions that are the complete opposite of others on here?? Isn't that what this country and PJ music is all about? I have been entertained daily by many posts on here.
Actually, I like your posts.
You and I should get together this weekend and have a few drinks. Then we can go out and hang out at Food for Less.
We can keep track of how many assholes pay with their link card. Then drive away in their $30,000 car.
Hahaha
first drink in a bag is on me
Did you read about the 5 rascals in St. Louis who beat the Bosnian guy with hammers? Beat him to death.
Was that a hate crime? Hmmmm
and how come that crime gets nowhere near the attention as the police officer who was doing his job?
Hate crime or not, thats a major false equivalency, civilian on civilian crime is not the same as an incident involving an agent of the government paid to protect. Fox news has been harping on this, riling their racist fan base, which is their prerogative, but the two cases are wholly unrelated and not worth comparing.
You are correct. They cannot be compared.
One is a senseless crime, while the other is an act of self defence where an unruly criminal attacked an armed officer of the law and met his end as a result.
I don't disagree with this... All the more reason not to race-rile over it, while being a hypocrite and condemning Jackson and Sharpton.
I don't understand how a person could come to the defense of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. Those two are the dregs of humanity.
Tell us how you really feel! I wonder what descriptors you save for rapists, murderers, and molesters. You may not agree with them, but these dregs have dedicated their lives to helping the underprivileged (though they certainly can be criticized for profiting as well). Jesse Jackson worked for Mr. King and was part of the marches from Selma to Montgomery for civil rights. What have YOU done with your life that makes you so far above these men who have donated thousands upon thousands of dollars and efforts to civil rights? For the record, I wasn't defending them, only pointing out the hypocrisy of folks (you included?) who run with those idiotic fox newsers.
Playbook attacks on "high profile" political African Americans throughout history. First...smear with infidelity Second...label profiteers
Does the "if he would have done what the cop told him he would be alive" argument apply to this case as well?
I didn't even click on the link. I could care less if it applied to this case. When it pertains to the Brown case, it does apply. And your whites have no clue statement is utterly ignorant.
Like a lot of posts on here you fail to read who actually posts what. You may want to take a second look.
I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. If you want to point out ignorance, fine. But whites are ignorant? Fuck that.
Does the "if he would have done what the cop told him he would be alive" argument apply to this case as well?
I didn't even click on the link. I could care less if it applied to this case. When it pertains to the Brown case, it does apply. And your whites have no clue statement is utterly ignorant.
Like a lot of posts on here you fail to read who actually posts what. You may want to take a second look.
I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. If you want to point out ignorance, fine. But whites are ignorant? Fuck that.
Does the "if he would have done what the cop told him he would be alive" argument apply to this case as well?
Yes it does. If he complied with the officers instead of saying that this ends today and not letting them arrest him he would still be alive.
Don't take this as me siding with the police in this case, I think what happened over selling lose cigarettes is ridiculous and the fact that EMS did nothing to even try and save him is horrendous.
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You Haves are the product of your environment. As was mike Brown. Your not special with special reasoning powers your just fucking lucky.
So now rather than bash the ignorance and throw out more hate do something positive. Be nice to your fellow human.
Whites have no clue.
Whites have no clue? Someone who condemns a convenience store robbery is a "have"? Frankly, that is bullshit.
There are plenty of whites who commit crimes and plenty of blacks who do not. This was never about race. It was about the dynamic between criminal and cop. Michael Brown committed a criminal act minutes before his death. That was no ones fault but his own.
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http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nation-and-world/okla-city-cop-ordered-stand-trial-sexual-assault-charges
so did this one
http://filmingcops.com/cop-points-gun-at-woman-rapes-her-at-gunpoint-after-she-stops-at-checkpoint-lawsuit/
Most of us are just questioning whether justice has truly been served.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
There are some fucked up people, period.
This shit you just posted, not getting its point here, especially in response to what I wrote.
No grey area here on the AMT sometimes.
You either hate cops....or love them. With us, or against us. Some Bush era shit right there.
http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wls/documents/Mal-IL-inventory.pdf
http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wls/documents/IL inventory-weapons.pdf
must be working!
If you want to make this a case of believing Wilson or not, I don't have a problem with that. But to say it's Wilson against the thugs is silly.
Somebody is trying to say something and I'm not getting the impression that it is, "Cops are awesome!"
So now rather than bash the ignorance and throw out more hate do something positive. Be nice to your fellow human.
Whites have no clue.
Does the "if he would have done what the cop told him he would be alive" argument apply to this case as well?
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Where a police officer can break his profession's policies, choke someone to death on video, the death is ruled a homicide and he is not be taken to trail.
Only in America, folks.
For the record, I wasn't defending them, only pointing out the hypocrisy of folks (you included?) who run with those idiotic fox newsers.
There are plenty of whites who commit crimes and plenty of blacks who do not. This was never about race. It was about the dynamic between criminal and cop. Michael Brown committed a criminal act minutes before his death. That was no ones fault but his own.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
First...smear with infidelity
Second...label profiteers
Gern didn't make the post you are referring too.
Don't take this as me siding with the police in this case, I think what happened over selling lose cigarettes is ridiculous and the fact that EMS did nothing to even try and save him is horrendous.
And Jason, that was perfect - made me