Michael Brown Shooting

dignin

http://m.ustream.tv/channel/st-louis-county-police-scanner

JC29856

Is this was revolution looks like!

JC29856

Reading Wilson's official story! Unreal...

http://apps.stlpublicradio.org/ferguson-project/evidence.html

rr165892

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Browns death is maybe the straw that breaks the camels back, or at least I hope so.

The system is broken.

I'm not saying the system does not have its flaws, but is it possible that the grand jury ruled correctly based on the evidence they had?

I've heard no shots in the back. I've heard Brown attacked several times. I've heard DNA on pants, shirt, and inside car of Wilson's. I've also heard many key witnesses recanted their testimony- saying they were influenced by social media.

They are releasing all the evidence from what I have heard. This should help make things a little clearer, but it really is hard to know what to think given the media playing us like fiddles over the last few months.

Browns blood is on handle and trigger of Wilson's gun.Ahhhh,how did it get there I wonder without browns hand being on the gun?Must be a conspiracy of the crime scene guys and DA and Police and Grand Jury civilians OR like many on here have stated Brown was at fault.He was criminal who disobeyed and tried to assault a cop and take his gun.Now idiots are burning it all down.Way to shine in the spotlight Ferguson.Classy.Im sure your message just got thru load and clear.....

JC29856

rr165892 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Browns death is maybe the straw that breaks the camels back, or at least I hope so.

The system is broken.

I'm not saying the system does not have its flaws, but is it possible that the grand jury ruled correctly based on the evidence they had?

I've heard no shots in the back. I've heard Brown attacked several times. I've heard DNA on pants, shirt, and inside car of Wilson's. I've also heard many key witnesses recanted their testimony- saying they were influenced by social media.

They are releasing all the evidence from what I have heard. This should help make things a little clearer, but it really is hard to know what to think given the media playing us like fiddles over the last few months.

Browns blood is on handle and trigger of Wilson's gun.Ahhhh,how did it get there I wonder without browns hand being on the gun?Must be a conspiracy of the crime scene guys and DA and Police and Grand Jury civilians OR like many on here have stated Brown was at fault.He was criminal who disobeyed and tried to assault a cop and take his gun.Now idiots are burning it all down.Way to shine in the spotlight Ferguson.Classy.Im sure your message just got thru load and clear.....

I haven't seen this blood on handle and trigger evidence? If it was then it proves nothing other then blood traveling to handle and trigger which could have gotten there when Brown pushed the gun away when "Wilson shot in Brown's direction". If Brown's fingerprints or non blood dna which don't splatter and travel were found on trigger and handle then that's a completely different story.

JC29856

Having seen the Wilson face photos, my dull razor does more damage then aggressive face hulk Hogan did to Wilson's.

If Brown did in fact say "you're to much of a pussy to shoot me" i would tend to agree, Wilson does look like a total wuss.

dignin

JC29856 said:

rr165892 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Browns death is maybe the straw that breaks the camels back, or at least I hope so.

The system is broken.

I'm not saying the system does not have its flaws, but is it possible that the grand jury ruled correctly based on the evidence they had?

I've heard no shots in the back. I've heard Brown attacked several times. I've heard DNA on pants, shirt, and inside car of Wilson's. I've also heard many key witnesses recanted their testimony- saying they were influenced by social media.

They are releasing all the evidence from what I have heard. This should help make things a little clearer, but it really is hard to know what to think given the media playing us like fiddles over the last few months.

Browns blood is on handle and trigger of Wilson's gun.Ahhhh,how did it get there I wonder without browns hand being on the gun?Must be a conspiracy of the crime scene guys and DA and Police and Grand Jury civilians OR like many on here have stated Brown was at fault.He was criminal who disobeyed and tried to assault a cop and take his gun.Now idiots are burning it all down.Way to shine in the spotlight Ferguson.Classy.Im sure your message just got thru load and clear.....

I haven't seen this blood on handle and trigger evidence? If it was then it proves nothing other then blood traveling to handle and trigger which could have gotten there when Brown pushed the gun away when "Wilson shot in Brown's direction". If Brown's fingerprints or non blood dna which don't splatter and travel were found on trigger and handle then that's a completely different story.

Quit with the critical thinking.

Wma31394

Cnn's Don Lemon: "protesters are throwing rocks..smashing police car windows..and starting fires.....there is a strong smell marajuana in the air"

Wma31394

apirk72 said:

True not everyone

And boy do I suck typing on this tablet


I wonder if all these fires were orchestrated by some group like the new black panthers party or a different one.

With my best Gump voice.... Sorry I ruined your black panther party.

Jason P

I think that prosecutor did a good job with his 45 minute explanation. If he would have just went out there for 5 minutes and dropped the decision I think violence (more then what went down) would have erupted.

No wonder the decision was delayed. He must have been working on that speech for the last two weeks.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

JC29856 said:

Having seen the Wilson face photos, my dull razor does more damage then aggressive face hulk Hogan did to Wilson's.

If Brown did in fact say "you're to much of a pussy to shoot me" i would tend to agree, Wilson does look like a total wuss.

So a cop needs to get 'really beat down' before they can defend themselves?

rgambs

Jason P said:

I think that prosecutor did a good job with his 45 minute explanation. If he would have just went out there for 5 minutes and dropped the decision I think violence (more then what went down) would have erupted.

No wonder the decision was delayed. He must have been working on that speech for the last two weeks.

Not a great speech. Saying the grand jurors gave their lives up was very insensitive, and he was confrontational about the media...just not a great tone. The explanation wasn't terrible though.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

dignin said:

JC29856 said:

rr165892 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Browns death is maybe the straw that breaks the camels back, or at least I hope so.

The system is broken.

I'm not saying the system does not have its flaws, but is it possible that the grand jury ruled correctly based on the evidence they had?

I've heard no shots in the back. I've heard Brown attacked several times. I've heard DNA on pants, shirt, and inside car of Wilson's. I've also heard many key witnesses recanted their testimony- saying they were influenced by social media.

They are releasing all the evidence from what I have heard. This should help make things a little clearer, but it really is hard to know what to think given the media playing us like fiddles over the last few months.

Browns blood is on handle and trigger of Wilson's gun.Ahhhh,how did it get there I wonder without browns hand being on the gun?Must be a conspiracy of the crime scene guys and DA and Police and Grand Jury civilians OR like many on here have stated Brown was at fault.He was criminal who disobeyed and tried to assault a cop and take his gun.Now idiots are burning it all down.Way to shine in the spotlight Ferguson.Classy.Im sure your message just got thru load and clear.....

I haven't seen this blood on handle and trigger evidence? If it was then it proves nothing other then blood traveling to handle and trigger which could have gotten there when Brown pushed the gun away when "Wilson shot in Brown's direction". If Brown's fingerprints or non blood dna which don't splatter and travel were found on trigger and handle then that's a completely different story.

Quit with the critical thinking.

I was going to say quit with the stubbornness (notice he never said anything about the witnesses recanting their testimonies, Brown's DNA in the car, no wounds in the back, and those other items that support the officer of the laws' version of events?).

I realize both of you have had your story straight the moment it broke on twitter. It must be very unsettling to discover your version of what happened wasn't exactly what occurred.

Both of you are reaching. It's possible we have been sold a bill of goods, but knowing what we know... buying the official explanation of Brown's death is a far cry from being asked to buy... say, Steven Biko's official explanation of death.

Godfather.

I wont say it....but it's pretty clear.

"He stressed that jurors were "the only people who heard every witness ... and every piece of evidence." He said many witnesses presented conflicting statements that were inconsistent with the physical evidence."

Godfather.

Jason P

rgambs said:

Jason P said:

I think that prosecutor did a good job with his 45 minute explanation. If he would have just went out there for 5 minutes and dropped the decision I think violence (more then what went down) would have erupted.

No wonder the decision was delayed. He must have been working on that speech for the last two weeks.

Not a great speech. Saying the grand jurors gave their lives up was very insensitive, and he was confrontational about the media...just not a great tone. The explanation wasn't terrible though.

Yeah, at about 30 minutes I figured he was better off to stop talking as he had pretty much peaked out and he was risking sticking his foot in his mouth. There is the old saying, quit while you are ahead.

I think he was within rights to ream the media.

JC29856

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

JC29856 said:

rr165892 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Browns death is maybe the straw that breaks the camels back, or at least I hope so.

The system is broken.

I'm not saying the system does not have its flaws, but is it possible that the grand jury ruled correctly based on the evidence they had?

I've heard no shots in the back. I've heard Brown attacked several times. I've heard DNA on pants, shirt, and inside car of Wilson's. I've also heard many key witnesses recanted their testimony- saying they were influenced by social media.

They are releasing all the evidence from what I have heard. This should help make things a little clearer, but it really is hard to know what to think given the media playing us like fiddles over the last few months.

Browns blood is on handle and trigger of Wilson's gun.Ahhhh,how did it get there I wonder without browns hand being on the gun?Must be a conspiracy of the crime scene guys and DA and Police and Grand Jury civilians OR like many on here have stated Brown was at fault.He was criminal who disobeyed and tried to assault a cop and take his gun.Now idiots are burning it all down.Way to shine in the spotlight Ferguson.Classy.Im sure your message just got thru load and clear.....

I haven't seen this blood on handle and trigger evidence? If it was then it proves nothing other then blood traveling to handle and trigger which could have gotten there when Brown pushed the gun away when "Wilson shot in Brown's direction". If Brown's fingerprints or non blood dna which don't splatter and travel were found on trigger and handle then that's a completely different story.

Quit with the critical thinking.

I was going to say quit with the stubbornness (notice he never said anything about the witnesses recanting their testimonies, Brown's DNA in the car, no wounds in the back, and those other items that support the officer of the laws' version of events?).

I realize both of you have had your story straight the moment it broke on twitter. It must be very unsettling to discover your version of what happened wasn't exactly what occurred.

Both of you are reaching. It's possible we have been sold a bill of goods, but knowing what we know... buying the official explanation of Brown's death is a far cry from being asked to buy... say, Steven Biko's official explanation of death.

The information was just released 10 hours ago, once i read thru it, i will post my findings, I'm first looking thru Wilson's account. I haven't made my mind up because i haven't read thru all the info once i do i will make my mind up, until then go back to "stuff and nonsense".

Finally Wilson's real official story, not from Josie not from leakers, still no police report as required by law immediately after the incident.

dignin

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

JC29856 said:

rr165892 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Browns death is maybe the straw that breaks the camels back, or at least I hope so.

The system is broken.

I'm not saying the system does not have its flaws, but is it possible that the grand jury ruled correctly based on the evidence they had?

I've heard no shots in the back. I've heard Brown attacked several times. I've heard DNA on pants, shirt, and inside car of Wilson's. I've also heard many key witnesses recanted their testimony- saying they were influenced by social media.

They are releasing all the evidence from what I have heard. This should help make things a little clearer, but it really is hard to know what to think given the media playing us like fiddles over the last few months.

Browns blood is on handle and trigger of Wilson's gun.Ahhhh,how did it get there I wonder without browns hand being on the gun?Must be a conspiracy of the crime scene guys and DA and Police and Grand Jury civilians OR like many on here have stated Brown was at fault.He was criminal who disobeyed and tried to assault a cop and take his gun.Now idiots are burning it all down.Way to shine in the spotlight Ferguson.Classy.Im sure your message just got thru load and clear.....

I haven't seen this blood on handle and trigger evidence? If it was then it proves nothing other then blood traveling to handle and trigger which could have gotten there when Brown pushed the gun away when "Wilson shot in Brown's direction". If Brown's fingerprints or non blood dna which don't splatter and travel were found on trigger and handle then that's a completely different story.

Quit with the critical thinking.

I realize both of you have had your story straight the moment it broke on twitter. It must be very unsettling to discover your version of what happened wasn't exactly what occurred.

Both of you are reaching. It's possible we have been sold a bill of goods, but knowing what we know... buying the official explanation of Brown's death is a far cry from being asked to buy... say, Steven Biko's official explanation of death.

And what "story" might that be? I'm pretty sure I haven't had a "story" all along. You are welcome to go back in the thread and find out where I made up a "story" but I think you would be hard pressed.

I have always been sceptical of the police version. But at no time did I say Wilson was guilty or innocent. I have never had my version of the story. I've been trying to stick to the facts all along.

Please do not put words in my mouth.

JimmyV

When you have local politicians calling for race war and local leaders blaming the tone and timing of a prosecutor's speech for their constituents burning down their own city, something is wrong. I was deeply disturbed by that last night.

Wma31394

JimmyV said:

When you have local politicians calling for race war and local leaders blaming the tone and timing of a prosecutor's speech for their constituents burning down their own city, something is wrong. I was deeply disturbed by that last night.

Well politicians are usually crooks and these so called local leaders haven't a clue..to me the timing of speech and tone are irrelevant. They could have scheduled a press conference at 4am thanksgiving morning and the same shit would have happened.

JimmyV

Wma31394 said:

JimmyV said:

When you have local politicians calling for race war and local leaders blaming the tone and timing of a prosecutor's speech for their constituents burning down their own city, something is wrong. I was deeply disturbed by that last night.

Well politicians are usually crooks and these so called local leaders haven't a clue..to me the timing of speech and tone are irrelevant. They could have scheduled a press conference at 4am thanksgiving morning and the same shit would have happened.

Agreed. I also think the decision to not indict because irrelevant. Those that wanted to riot were going to do so either way, whether it be in "protest" or "celebration". Very sad this morning for the people of Ferguson. So many lost property and businesses and jobs last night. For nothing.