Michael Brown Shooting

JC29856

Another Ferguson brave cop running and hiding, deleting his Twitter...

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/cop_assigned_to_ferguson_protests_threatens_attorney_general_holder?recruiter_id=17

chadwick

JC29856 said:

Another Ferguson brave cop running and hiding, deleting his Twitter...

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/cop_assigned_to_ferguson_protests_threatens_attorney_general_holder?recruiter_id=17

Sergeant Mike Weston a piece of stupid. this guy is not bright at all.

chadwick

Dirtie_Frank said:

For people questioning the police with the knife:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igSoJHEdUo&feature=youtu.be

nice video

chadwick

http://youtu.be/AfYxTRx0vRc

no it's not the clip where megyn kelly farts but it's close.

"That stupid bitch and many other cruel people like her are the reason why Innocent American are being beheaded. She is just fueling hatred with her ignorance! America used to be a great nation but it has quickly turned into a shit hole and the bile from fox news is contributing greatly in its demise. I'm sitting in my little house in a small village in England wondering how can a bitch like her end up as a news anchor of a national television. It beggars belief!" - mkeny abs. commenting in the commenting section

well there you have it, godfather. megyn kelly's a cruel idiot & she fancies spelling her name different than megan

callen

Cop struggles with guy and dies.

If you violently confront a cop as likely brown and idiot with knife did you should expect to die.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?c=homepage-t

Tired of the bleeding heart bullshit.

callen

And if anyone breaks into your car or house or whatever. Don't call one of those bastard cops handle it yourselves.

Last-12-Exit

chadwick said:

http://youtu.be/AfYxTRx0vRc

no it's not the clip where megyn kelly farts but it's close.

"That stupid bitch and many other cruel people like her are the reason why Innocent American are being beheaded. She is just fueling hatred with her ignorance! America used to be a great nation but it has quickly turned into a shit hole and the bile from fox news is contributing greatly in its demise. I'm sitting in my little house in a small village in England wondering how can a bitch like her end up as a news anchor of a national television. It beggars belief!" - mkeny abs. commenting in the commenting section

well there you have it, godfather. megyn kelly's a cruel idiot & she fancies spelling her name different than megan

I can't stand megyn Kelly, but I think I agree with her!?!? The producers were cutting into her segment with that guy and it pissed her off.

Godfather.

this is just a section in the cycle of life, Bikers have been saying "FTL or "FTW for years the hippies stood up and spoke of peave and love and aginst thier parents...and here we go again, and as in the 60's 70's we are still experiancing rioting,some people will never learn that you can't make others do your work for you and expect to get what they want.

Godfather.

Gern Blansten

callen said:

Cop struggles with guy and dies.

If you violently confront a cop as likely brown and idiot with knife did you should expect to die.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?c=homepage-t

Tired of the bleeding heart bullshit.

violently? Where is the evidence of that?

JC29856

callen said:

Cop struggles with guy and dies.

If you violently confront a cop as likely brown and idiot with knife did you should expect to die.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?c=homepage-t

Tired of the bleeding heart bullshit.

should have pumped 13 bullets in the guy and handcuffed the corpse.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Chadwick offered the following in the Dumb Cop thread:

Steve McCraw, head of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said Pimentel is the fifth law enforcement officer to die in Texas this year. Three of the five were killed by gunfire. Thirteen officers died in the line of duty last year.

It got me thinking.

In 2013, the US saw 33 cops killed by gunfire- the lowest total since 1887 when 27 were shot dead. This total was in stark contrast to 2011's total of 169 officers killed in the line of duty.

The lower number is credited to increased safety measures such as requiring officers to wear bullet-resistant vests and the formation of the National Officer Safety and Wellness Group by the U.S. Department of Justice.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/30/law-enforcement-deaths/4247393/

I would assume that more proactive tactics like the ones we have been discussing here lately have been promoted as well (for example... the strict adherence to the 21 feet threshold for a knife assailant).

For comparison's sake, the number of people killed by law enforcement in the US in 2011 was 161 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States_2011).

Looking at the scales for 2011: criminals killed 169 cops... cops killed 161 criminals. Obviously, there are some individual cases where the criminal/person killed by the police shocks the senses; however, the bottom line is that in 2011... more cops died in the fight for law and order than murderers, rapists, arsonists, and the like.

Every time there is an investigation or an arrest, there is an opportunity for a cop to kill someone. Think of how many arrests and investigations are performed every year. Now compare that number- which has to be unbelievably high- and compare it to the number of 'killings' on the part of officers. Not too shabby in my mind.

These incidents, as shocking as they might be, are statistical oddities. What must be acknowledged is that overwhelmingly, difficult police work gets done on a daily basis with no fanfare, acknowledgement, or even basic levels of respect from many who benefit from police services.

rr165892

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Chadwick offered the following in the Dumb Cop thread:

Steve McCraw, head of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said Pimentel is the fifth law enforcement officer to die in Texas this year. Three of the five were killed by gunfire. Thirteen officers died in the line of duty last year.

It got me thinking.

In 2013, the US saw 33 cops killed by gunfire- the lowest total since 1887 when 27 were shot dead. This total was in stark contrast to 2011's total of 169 officers killed in the line of duty.

The lower number is credited to increased safety measures such as requiring officers to wear bullet-resistant vests and the formation of the National Officer Safety and Wellness Group by the U.S. Department of Justice.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/30/law-enforcement-deaths/4247393/

I would assume that more proactive tactics like the ones we have been discussing here lately have been promoted as well (for example... the strict adherence to the 21 feet threshold for a knife assailant).

For comparison's sake, the number of people killed by law enforcement in the US in 2011 was 161 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States_2011).

Looking at the scales for 2011: criminals killed 169 cops... cops killed 161 criminals. Obviously, there are some individual cases where the criminal/person killed by the police shocks the senses; however, the bottom line is that in 2011... more cops died in the fight for law and order than murderers, rapists, arsonists, and the like.

Every time there is an investigation or an arrest, there is an opportunity for a cop to kill someone. Think of how many arrests and investigations are performed every year. Now compare that number- which has to be unbelievably high- and compare it to the number of 'killings' on the part of officers. Not too shabby in my mind.

These incidents, as shocking as they might be, are statistical oddities. What must be acknowledged is that overwhelmingly, difficult police work gets done on a daily basis with no fanfare, acknowledgement, or even basic levels of respect from many who benefit from police services.

Good post

dignin

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Chadwick offered the following in the Dumb Cop thread:

Steve McCraw, head of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said Pimentel is the fifth law enforcement officer to die in Texas this year. Three of the five were killed by gunfire. Thirteen officers died in the line of duty last year.


Looking at the scales for 2011: criminals killed 169 cops... cops killed 161 criminals. Obviously, there are some individual cases where the criminal/person killed by the police shocks the senses; however, the bottom line is that in 2011... more cops died in the fight for law and order than murderers, rapists, arsonists, and the like.

Simply not true according to the link you provided. You are trying to bend the results in favour of your argument

For 2013

"The primary cause for officer fatalities this year was traffic-related incidents, which claimed 46 lives.

Firearms-related incidents accounted for 33 deaths, a drop of one-third over 2012 and the lowest since 1887 when 27 officers were shot to death, the NLEOMF reports.

Thirty-two officers died of other causes in 2013, including 14 who suffered heart attacks while on duty."

Saying that criminals killed all of them is untrue.

pjhawks

if only we discussed good people dying as much as thieves dying maybe we'd be better off.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Chadwick offered the following in the Dumb Cop thread:

Steve McCraw, head of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said Pimentel is the fifth law enforcement officer to die in Texas this year. Three of the five were killed by gunfire. Thirteen officers died in the line of duty last year.


Looking at the scales for 2011: criminals killed 169 cops... cops killed 161 criminals. Obviously, there are some individual cases where the criminal/person killed by the police shocks the senses; however, the bottom line is that in 2011... more cops died in the fight for law and order than murderers, rapists, arsonists, and the like.

Simply not true according to the link you provided. You are trying to bend the results in favour of your argument

For 2013

"The primary cause for officer fatalities this year was traffic-related incidents, which claimed 46 lives.

Firearms-related incidents accounted for 33 deaths, a drop of one-third over 2012 and the lowest since 1887 when 27 officers were shot to death, the NLEOMF reports.

Thirty-two officers died of other causes in 2013, including 14 who suffered heart attacks while on duty."

Saying that criminals killed all of them is untrue.

A few things:

1. My crude speculation is certainly open to criticism and the numbers are subject to scrutiny. There is no actual comparison made that I could find for what I am trying to point out.

2. Does a traffic fatality chasing a criminal count as a death in the line of duty? If they are chasing a criminal to serve and protect... is this death ultimately the same thing as being shot?

3. With the data adjusted as per your critical eye... I think the point still stands.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

This was the point that needs to be addressed:

Every time there is an investigation or an arrest, there is an opportunity for a cop to kill someone. Think of how many arrests and investigations are performed every year. Now compare that number- which has to be unbelievably high- and compare it to the number of 'killings' on the part of officers. Not too shabby in my mind.

These incidents, as shocking as they might be, are statistical oddities. What must be acknowledged is that overwhelmingly, difficult police work gets done on a daily basis with no fanfare, acknowledgement, or even basic levels of respect from many who benefit from police services.

Can you refute this?

JimmyV

callen said:

Cop struggles with guy and dies.

If you violently confront a cop as likely brown and idiot with knife did you should expect to die.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?c=homepage-t

Tired of the bleeding heart bullshit.

Knife guy for sure. If he doesn't instigate that confrontation then he is still alive today.

dignin

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Chadwick offered the following in the Dumb Cop thread:

Steve McCraw, head of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said Pimentel is the fifth law enforcement officer to die in Texas this year. Three of the five were killed by gunfire. Thirteen officers died in the line of duty last year.


Looking at the scales for 2011: criminals killed 169 cops... cops killed 161 criminals. Obviously, there are some individual cases where the criminal/person killed by the police shocks the senses; however, the bottom line is that in 2011... more cops died in the fight for law and order than murderers, rapists, arsonists, and the like.

Simply not true according to the link you provided. You are trying to bend the results in favour of your argument

For 2013

"The primary cause for officer fatalities this year was traffic-related incidents, which claimed 46 lives.

Firearms-related incidents accounted for 33 deaths, a drop of one-third over 2012 and the lowest since 1887 when 27 officers were shot to death, the NLEOMF reports.

Thirty-two officers died of other causes in 2013, including 14 who suffered heart attacks while on duty."

Saying that criminals killed all of them is untrue.

A few things:

1. My crude speculation is certainly open to criticism and the numbers are subject to scrutiny. There is no actual comparison made that I could find for what I am trying to point out.

2. Does a traffic fatality chasing a criminal count as a death in the line of duty? If they are chasing a criminal to serve and protect... is this death ultimately the same thing as being shot?

3. With the data adjusted as per your critical eye... I think the point still stands.

I would need to see a better breakdown of the numbers to make any kind of conclusion.

For all I know 15 of the 33 police deaths by firearms could be by their own hand.

JC29856

pjhawks said:

if only we discussed good people dying as much as thieves dying maybe we'd be better off.

Wonder why the "store he robbed" never filed a report or called the police?

callen

Gern Blansten said:

callen said:

Cop struggles with guy and dies.

If you violently confront a cop as likely brown and idiot with knife did you should expect to die.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?c=homepage-t

Tired of the bleeding heart bullshit.

violently? Where is the evidence of that?

Said "if".