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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    This is just so fucken sad....

  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Byrnzie said:

    Precision bombing:

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    wow
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Godfather. said:

    Hitler did this during WWII to England and the reason he did it was to brake the will of the English people and drive them into submission, as aweful as this is it is war and unfortunatly this what happens during war espically when dealing with an underdeveloped country.
    everybody screams here at the train "they're killing inocent civilans and babies" and I agree/believe it's a sin they will pay for...but guess what ?...it's a war and the dirty business of war kills without seperation, it does not matter what one side or the other wants because to one side or the other the means to an end is only thru war and war's kill everybody not just the bad guy's ("war is hell - G.Patton)

    Godfather.

    A blunt piece offered here that isn't necessarily wrong with the exception that I think we can call this for what it is: a one-sided slaughter that is amounting to a genocide.

    I get the feeling there is a lot of external pressure on Israel for their actions, yet it looks as if they don't give two shits. What kind of intervention is necessary for them to back off their aggression?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited July 2014
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. said:

    Hitler did this during WWII to England and the reason he did it was to brake the will of the English people and drive them into submission, as aweful as this is it is war and unfortunatly this what happens during war espically when dealing with an underdeveloped country.
    everybody screams here at the train "they're killing inocent civilans and babies" and I agree/believe it's a sin they will pay for...but guess what ?...it's a war and the dirty business of war kills without seperation, it does not matter what one side or the other wants because to one side or the other the means to an end is only thru war and war's kill everybody not just the bad guy's ("war is hell - G.Patton)

    Godfather.

    It's not a war, it's a massacre.

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited July 2014
    In case anyone's still in any doubt - is your head buried in the sand? - that this is a massacre: http://www.unrwa.org//newsroom/official-statements/unrwa-strongly-condemns-israeli-shelling-its-school-gaza-serious#.U9jgCdJLOmo.twitter
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    badbrains said:

    Oh shit, we better watch out. Saw on John Stewart that the us sold $11,000,000,000 yes that's $11 BILLION dollars worth of military aid to Qatar. Yup, that's the same Qatar funding Hamas. Can we say "conflict of interest?" We give Israel supposedly $3 billion a year, Qatar just got 4X that. Hmmm

    our government is stupid like that,we shouldn't be giving any support or selling anything to anybody in the middle east in my humble opinion.


    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie said:

    Godfather. said:

    Hitler did this during WWII to England and the reason he did it was to brake the will of the English people and drive them into submission, as aweful as this is it is war and unfortunatly this what happens during war espically when dealing with an underdeveloped country.
    everybody screams here at the train "they're killing inocent civilans and babies" and I agree/believe it's a sin they will pay for...but guess what ?...it's a war and the dirty business of war kills without seperation, it does not matter what one side or the other wants because to one side or the other the means to an end is only thru war and war's kill everybody not just the bad guy's ("war is hell - G.Patton)

    Godfather.

    It's not a war, it's a massacre.

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    war...massacre it's all the same for one side or the other, was hitlers extermination of the Jews a massacre ?,was the civil war a massacre ?...patata potato.


    Godfather.

  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited July 2014
    Interesting article here. You have to have respect for the Hamas fighters who've been fighting a David Vs Goliath battle against the IDF. And the difference being that the Hamas/Qassam Brigades target soldiers, whereas the IDF target civilians.

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/daring-and-lethal-palestinian-raids-gaza-sap-israeli-morale

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NAhozItSq0#t=189

    Daring and lethal Palestinian raids from Gaza sap Israeli morale
    07/30/2014

    The Israeli army is reeling from two attacks behind its lines by fighters of the Qassam Brigades, the military resistance wing of Hamas.

    The attacks are feeding a sense in Israel that its ground assault on Gaza is turning into a disaster and there are indications that Israeli anger and frustration are being taken out with even more deliberate killings of Palestinian civilians.

    On Monday, four Israeli soldiers were killed and ten injured when Palestinian resistance fighters fired mortars across the boundary from Gaza.

    But the most dramatic incident was a commando raid in which seven Qassam fighters emerged from a tunnel, raided a fortified Israeli army outpost at Nahal Oz inside Israel, killed five soldiers according to the Israeli count, and returned safely to Gaza through the tunnel.

    Qassam said its fighters killed 10 Israeli combatants in the attack...

    Along with the video of the raid, Qassam’s commander Muhammad Deif released an audio recording saying that his group would not accept a ceasefire which did not end the siege of Gaza. Deif said that his fighters were prepared for a long battle and were working according to a plan rather than “reacting” to events like Israel.

    Deif said that the “enemy” had been “defeated” in its ground war and would continue to pay a heavy price as long as its army was in Gaza.

    The latest resistance attacks across Israeli lines have rattled frontline Israeli soldiers, one of whom grumbled to Ynet that ” I’m not sure where is safer, inside or outside” Gaza.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Godfather. said:

    Byrnzie said:

    Godfather. said:

    Hitler did this during WWII to England and the reason he did it was to brake the will of the English people and drive them into submission, as aweful as this is it is war and unfortunatly this what happens during war espically when dealing with an underdeveloped country.
    everybody screams here at the train "they're killing inocent civilans and babies" and I agree/believe it's a sin they will pay for...but guess what ?...it's a war and the dirty business of war kills without seperation, it does not matter what one side or the other wants because to one side or the other the means to an end is only thru war and war's kill everybody not just the bad guy's ("war is hell - G.Patton)

    Godfather.

    It's not a war, it's a massacre.

    image

    war...massacre it's all the same for one side or the other, was hitlers extermination of the Jews a massacre ?,was the civil war a massacre ?...patata potato.


    Godfather.

    Get serious.

    Hitler's extermination of the Jews is completely different than the Civil War. They're not even close: one was about independence and one was about ethnicity. Fighting for independence and freedom is completely different than trying to ethnically cleanse the landscape.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    Godfather. said:

    badbrains said:

    Oh shit, we better watch out. Saw on John Stewart that the us sold $11,000,000,000 yes that's $11 BILLION dollars worth of military aid to Qatar. Yup, that's the same Qatar funding Hamas. Can we say "conflict of interest?" We give Israel supposedly $3 billion a year, Qatar just got 4X that. Hmmm

    our government is stupid like that,we shouldn't be giving any support or selling anything to anybody in the middle east in my humble opinion.


    Godfather.

    oh but lockheed martin, halliburton, general dynamics, et al would have to disagree with you there.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    the year is 2014 the month is July the day is 30

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/GazaUnderAttack?src=hash
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    JC29856 said:

    the year is 2014 the month is July the day is 30

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/GazaUnderAttack?src=hash

    Wow, those pic and stories are fucken unreal. Smh. And you're absolutely right, 2014, truly a sad sad world.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Godfather. said:

    Byrnzie said:

    Godfather. said:

    Hitler did this during WWII to England and the reason he did it was to brake the will of the English people and drive them into submission, as aweful as this is it is war and unfortunatly this what happens during war espically when dealing with an underdeveloped country.
    everybody screams here at the train "they're killing inocent civilans and babies" and I agree/believe it's a sin they will pay for...but guess what ?...it's a war and the dirty business of war kills without seperation, it does not matter what one side or the other wants because to one side or the other the means to an end is only thru war and war's kill everybody not just the bad guy's ("war is hell - G.Patton)

    Godfather.

    It's not a war, it's a massacre.

    image

    war...massacre it's all the same for one side or the other, was hitlers extermination of the Jews a massacre ?,was the civil war a massacre ?...patata potato.


    Godfather.

    Get serious.

    Hitler's extermination of the Jews is completely different than the Civil War. They're not even close: one was about independence and one was about ethnicity. Fighting for independence and freedom is completely different than trying to ethnically cleanse the landscape.
    I know man but dead is dead and both were wars right ? the reason does not matter at the bottom line.


    Godfather.




  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    Godfather. said:

    badbrains said:

    Oh shit, we better watch out. Saw on John Stewart that the us sold $11,000,000,000 yes that's $11 BILLION dollars worth of military aid to Qatar. Yup, that's the same Qatar funding Hamas. Can we say "conflict of interest?" We give Israel supposedly $3 billion a year, Qatar just got 4X that. Hmmm

    our government is stupid like that,we shouldn't be giving any support or selling anything to anybody in the middle east in my humble opinion.


    Godfather.

    oh but lockheed martin, halliburton, general dynamics, et al would have to disagree with you there.
    I know bro. and it makes me sick, I see where our product where I work goes everyday and where it comes from, you guys may not know and may be suprised where/who the US companys buy their product from...it really sucks to put it simply.


    Godfather.

  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Godfather. said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    Godfather. said:

    badbrains said:

    Oh shit, we better watch out. Saw on John Stewart that the us sold $11,000,000,000 yes that's $11 BILLION dollars worth of military aid to Qatar. Yup, that's the same Qatar funding Hamas. Can we say "conflict of interest?" We give Israel supposedly $3 billion a year, Qatar just got 4X that. Hmmm

    our government is stupid like that,we shouldn't be giving any support or selling anything to anybody in the middle east in my humble opinion.


    Godfather.

    oh but lockheed martin, halliburton, general dynamics, et al would have to disagree with you there.
    I know bro. and it makes me sick, I see where our product where I work goes everyday and where it comes from, you guys may not know and may be suprised where/who the US companys buy their product from...it really sucks to put it simply.


    Godfather.

    And Qatar just bought $11 billion in military gear from us. Again, these are the same Qatar that is funding Hamas. No one sees the irony in this? I'm sure u guys do, but man, if that's not a conflict of interest I dnt know what is. Shouldn't Israel be mad and angry at us for this? Wouldn't u think they'd want to put a stop to that? That's some crazy shit!
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    "Evacuation notices" being dropped by the Israelis into Gaza. Look at that neighborhood they are about to bomb. "Surgical" strikes my ass.

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  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    edited July 2014
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Godfather. said:

    Byrnzie said:

    Godfather. said:

    Hitler did this during WWII to England and the reason he did it was to brake the will of the English people and drive them into submission, as aweful as this is it is war and unfortunatly this what happens during war espically when dealing with an underdeveloped country.
    everybody screams here at the train "they're killing inocent civilans and babies" and I agree/believe it's a sin they will pay for...but guess what ?...it's a war and the dirty business of war kills without seperation, it does not matter what one side or the other wants because to one side or the other the means to an end is only thru war and war's kill everybody not just the bad guy's ("war is hell - G.Patton)

    Godfather.

    It's not a war, it's a massacre.

    image

    war...massacre it's all the same for one side or the other, was hitlers extermination of the Jews a massacre ?,was the civil war a massacre ?...patata potato.


    Godfather.

    Get serious.

    Hitler's extermination of the Jews is completely different than the Civil War. They're not even close: one was about independence and one was about ethnicity. Fighting for independence and freedom is completely different than trying to ethnically cleanse the landscape.
    I see where Godfather is coming from though...a lot of People pointlessly got Slaughtered.

    Post edited by i_lov_it on
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    badbrains said:

    Godfather. said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    Godfather. said:

    badbrains said:

    Oh shit, we better watch out. Saw on John Stewart that the us sold $11,000,000,000 yes that's $11 BILLION dollars worth of military aid to Qatar. Yup, that's the same Qatar funding Hamas. Can we say "conflict of interest?" We give Israel supposedly $3 billion a year, Qatar just got 4X that. Hmmm

    our government is stupid like that,we shouldn't be giving any support or selling anything to anybody in the middle east in my humble opinion.


    Godfather.

    oh but lockheed martin, halliburton, general dynamics, et al would have to disagree with you there.
    I know bro. and it makes me sick, I see where our product where I work goes everyday and where it comes from, you guys may not know and may be suprised where/who the US companys buy their product from...it really sucks to put it simply.


    Godfather.

    And Qatar just bought $11 billion in military gear from us. Again, these are the same Qatar that is funding Hamas. No one sees the irony in this? I'm sure u guys do, but man, if that's not a conflict of interest I dnt know what is. Shouldn't Israel be mad and angry at us for this? Wouldn't u think they'd want to put a stop to that? That's some crazy shit!
    badbrains said:

    Godfather. said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    Godfather. said:

    badbrains said:

    Oh shit, we better watch out. Saw on John Stewart that the us sold $11,000,000,000 yes that's $11 BILLION dollars worth of military aid to Qatar. Yup, that's the same Qatar funding Hamas. Can we say "conflict of interest?" We give Israel supposedly $3 billion a year, Qatar just got 4X that. Hmmm

    our government is stupid like that,we shouldn't be giving any support or selling anything to anybody in the middle east in my humble opinion.


    Godfather.

    oh but lockheed martin, halliburton, general dynamics, et al would have to disagree with you there.
    I know bro. and it makes me sick, I see where our product where I work goes everyday and where it comes from, you guys may not know and may be suprised where/who the US companys buy their product from...it really sucks to put it simply.


    Godfather.

    And Qatar just bought $11 billion in military gear from us. Again, these are the same Qatar that is funding Hamas. No one sees the irony in this? I'm sure u guys do, but man, if that's not a conflict of interest I dnt know what is. Shouldn't Israel be mad and angry at us for this? Wouldn't u think they'd want to put a stop to that? That's some crazy shit!
    "In the fields the bodies burning,As the war machine keeps turning"

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