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badbrains

https://twitter.com/gazaglobal/status/496395199577587713

badbrains

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Last-12-Exit

I see no reason to continue looking at pictures of dead children. It's not going to make my distgust over Israel's actions increase. I can't make peace in the middle east happen on a message board, and neither can anyone posting those pictures or ranting here. As much as I enjoy reading and participating in the debate, the pictures are to much. There really should be an a warning on the title of this thread at this point. I wish you all well.

badbrains

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JC29856

Hogwash...their actors

josevolution

This is atrocious & what a sad commentary of human behavior in 2014 there are no winners or losers just death and that is all both sides know to kill each other , to much hate has been brewed .....

JC29856

One extremely better at killing the other....super extremely

mickeyrat

evilrona said:

Yeah, right. Ah-ha. Also rockets are targeting soldiers?
They'd kill whatever caught in their way and you know it. Their would like to kill civilians as much as soldiers. They just know that for a body of dead soldier theg can ask release of 1000 terrirsts with civilans blood on their hands.

You can keep mumbeling about occupation for as long as you want. You can't take my family roots from where in has been for hundreds of years, Jerusalem. So we better find a way to live TOGETHER.

Prior to the establishment of the State of Israel, werent palestinian and jew living side by side without any real trouble?

Drowned Out

JC29856 said:

Hogwash...their actors

Shocked I've yet to see the word 'Paliwood' on this board. Seem to see it in every comment section. Score one for pj fans...

Byrnzie

evilrona said:

Yeah, right. Ah-ha. Also rockets are targeting soldiers?
They'd kill whatever caught in their way and you know it. Their would like to kill civilians as much as soldiers. They just know that for a body of dead soldier theg can ask release of 1000 terrirsts with civilans blood on their hands.

Don't change the subject. You weren't talking about rockets. You were talking about 'terror tunnels'.

evilrona said:

You can keep mumbeling about occupation for as long as you want. You can't take my family roots from where in has been for hundreds of years, Jerusalem. So we better find a way to live TOGETHER.

The Istaeli's have no right to East Jerusalem. It's illegally occupied territory.
And I'll continue 'mumbling' about Israel's illegal occupation because it's the root cause of the conflict.

Your racist lunatic state would not be able to continue stealing another peoples land and slaughtering it's children without blanket support from the U.S.

Byrnzie

evilrona said:

Again, not true. What I see over the news (not the Israeli media) ~50% are Hamas people.

50% civilians? Are you on drugs? The lowest estimate nice seen on any news site is 80% civilians. Why are you lying? Are you hoping to gain support for Israels slaughter of women and children by resorting to lies?

evilrona said:

In the last operation, Hamas admitted 70% of those who killed were Hamas members.

No they didn't. That's just another lie. During Cast Lead 90% of those killed by Israel were civilians - approx 1,600 civilian dead, inuding over 400 children.

evilrona said:

Forgive me if I have ZERO tolerance for dead terrorist, who wants to attack innocents civilians.

And they're all terrorists in your eyes, righ? Even the unborn babies.

evilrona said:

Here is some truth about Hamas (by an Italian reporter, who admitted children were killed by Hamas in Shifa)
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/trapped-in-gaza-how-hamas-punishes-reporters-for-the-truth/story-e6frg6zo-1227007768903?nk=e05fc8d2113cf33f242c66d5b0ad051a

This article can't be opened without creating an account, but the subtitle alone is bullshit. It states that Hamas has used civilians as human shields. It hasn't. That's just Israeli propaganda. It's a fucking lie.

evilrona said:

Last week Hamas executed ~20 people for protesting.
Hamas members are using guns against gazan people in lines for food\water.

That's another lie. They've done nothing of the sort.

evilrona said:

And regarding the tunnels, are you serious? All the ceasefires Hamas broke was during attempts to attack the kibbutz around! through tunnels, well organized tunnels. Luckily they failed:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4545029,00.html
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/27/security-sources-say-hamas-planned-a-massive-terror-tunnels-attack-for-september-24/
And throwing rockets is not against civilians? So why do I run to the shelter once\twice a day?
Again, I DO NOT justify death of innocents in Gaza. (And spare me the "how many died in Israel vs Gaza, I know I have siren+shelter+Iron dome to protect me, and I won't feel bad for that)

You didn't have Iron Dome in 2009, and the dreaded rockets killed how many? 3 civilians.

evilrona said:

And Hamas plan was a MASSIVE terror attack on new years eve. That is insane.
I believe in their right to live normal life and I wish for it with all my heart, to have their own country with government that would actually take care for it's people. Unfortunately (and I am speaking about Hamas and similar terror organizations who say it out laud; to extinct Israel) they don't recognize my right of living, not in Tel Aviv, nor anywhere.

So you should be campaigning for an end to the illegal occupation and land-grab then, instead of posting lies on public Internet forums.

evilrona said:

You are naive if you think differently regarding Hamas wishes to Israelis\Jewish in general. Take a look what's going on in Europe. Israel is the last fronter in front of the terror, probably, while we are speaking radical groups in Europe, planning the next terror attack. As ISIS said "we will stop when we see our flag on the white house". I really hope we will never get there.

Hamas have nothing to do with ISIS, and they have even less to do with Al Queda. But I can see how it would benefit you to pretend otherwise.

evilrona said:

I guess you tend to forget that Al Qaeda who planned 9/11 is the one who supports Hamas.

I see, so Hamas = 9/11. Yep, that's convincing. We'd better follow the advice of some of the people in your government then and commit genocide. Wipe them all out.

Byrnzie

evilrona said:

I'd love to hear what do you think should happen if rockets keep firing\terror tunnels being build under my home.

Maybe Israel could begin complying with international law for a start, and quit acting like a dangerous rogue state that believes it has the right to occupy and terrorize the Palestinians.
Maybe Israel can end its illegal occupation and land-grab and then fortify it's legal borders?

But no, 47 years of continued settlement expansion has demonstrated that the Israelis aren't interested in that. You just want to steal more and more land, and you want to continue treating the Palestinians like dogs, as former chief of defence Moshe Dayan - Moshe Dayan [1970's]

"We have no solution, and you shall continue living like dogs. And whoever wishes may leave. And we will see where this process leads." - Moshe Dayan [1970's]

dimitrispearljam

rafie said:

One more quick thing. The only thing posted in this entire thread that actually helped make sense of things is what Dimitris posted. =D> You got it my friend, as long as people are making money, war will continue.

its all about the money..at South America they cant "sell this religion war crap" so cant make people kill eachother..so they funding a dictator to get the power and then they funding resistance to put him down so they are still in control..or "accidentally all leaders get cancer..
same shit happens at iraq with sandam..and all those countries are at civil war now..
but that israel -palestine thing is more stupid..cos they sell this religion hate so easily..cos the fuckin standard of living is below zero..
i know what u do for living,i know u in person,so probably noone post in this thread knows u in person,better than me..
we have the same thing at our constitution..anytime they can call u for duty and from civilian can be a soldier..
i work in a fuckin war machine,i know that shit and anyone thinks that rocket is ok,cos throw to army and not civilian needs a slap at the head..
death is death,.pain is pain,and who said the mother of a "civilian" hurts more that a "soldier mother" when loosing their child???
and all palestines dies are ALL civilians,cos they dont have army..
even has a rocket on his hands,,is still civilian..
some think that is ok soldier to die cos they are in army..and arent civilians..
well let me tell you the news people..its not...
from the other hand,what israel does??"protect theirself??"
how?by bombing everyone is moving from the other side??
dont tell me israel doen have the power to find the "bad palestines" ands eliminate them..
they just play the game,i have the power,i can couse u more pain..
its madness..and everyone thnks is only one side problem,or only one is the bad guys dont know shit..
when any of you taking sides ,see fire without smoke,then ill be Brad Pitt

dimitrispearljam

badbrains said:

dimitrispearljam said:

badbrains said:

Godfather. said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Godfather. said:

badbrains said:

Oh shit, we better watch out. Saw on John Stewart that the us sold $11,000,000,000 yes that's $11 BILLION dollars worth of military aid to Qatar. Yup, that's the same Qatar funding Hamas. Can we say "conflict of interest?" We give Israel supposedly $3 billion a year, Qatar just got 4X that. Hmmm

our government is stupid like that,we shouldn't be giving any support or selling anything to anybody in the middle east in my humble opinion.


Godfather.

oh but lockheed martin, halliburton, general dynamics, et al would have to disagree with you there.

I know bro. and it makes me sick, I see where our product where I work goes everyday and where it comes from, you guys may not know and may be suprised where/who the US companys buy their product from...it really sucks to put it simply.


Godfather.

And Qatar just bought $11 billion in military gear from us. Again, these are the same Qatar that is funding Hamas. No one sees the irony in this? I'm sure u guys do, but man, if that's not a conflict of interest I dnt know what is. Shouldn't Israel be mad and angry at us for this? Wouldn't u think they'd want to put a stop to that? That's some crazy shit!

there is no irony my friend..it called business..
the boss want to sell guns..the boss want israel there for have a stronge ally amongst arabs
the boss selling guns to the country funding the enemies of israel.
the boss doesnt want this war to end..the boss making money of all this..
fron the "official front door" gives support to israel and from the "unofficial back door"" give guns
to hamas...
and simple people like u and me,talking about religion,about war,,hate,civilians get killed and all this things and there is only one word behind all this.
Money..
this will never ends there,cos boss gets money..

And I understood EVERY WORD! How u doing my friend? When u coming to jersey?

im good buddy..all ok..just frikkin hot killing us..
jersey??wtf are u talking about..u know the only gay town im visiting is Amsterfuckindam ...hheheheehe

JC29856

E-do you prefer chocolate and cereal to salad?

http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/israeli-blogger-laments-that-the-gaza-war-is-making-her-fat-pretty-much-everyone-takes-offence/story-fnh81ifq-1227012994533

Byrnzie

JC29856 said:

E-do you prefer chocolate and cereal to salad?

http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/israeli-blogger-laments-that-the-gaza-war-is-making-her-fat-pretty-much-everyone-takes-offence/story-fnh81ifq-1227012994533

People like her deserve to eat K.F.C everyday of their lives.

hedonist

The whole article is ridiculous. Why is this given credence?

Byrnzie

Those IDF soldiers are so brave, and so noble. Murdering civilians in cold blood must really take a lot of courage.

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/charlotte-silver/israeli-army-summarily-executed-fleeing-civilians-southern-gaza

Israeli army summarily executed fleeing civilians in southern Gaza
08/05/2014


Even before a short-lived ceasefire allowed journalists to enter the besieged southern Gaza Strip town of Khuzaa on 1 August, desperate reports of an Israeli massacre — including execution-style shootings — had emerged from survivors who had escaped to nearby Khan Younis.

Once journalists were able to enter the choked-off village, they found slain bodies and the stench of decay. Journalist Jesse Rosenfeld described one scene, among several, that appeared to be the site of a summary execution: “Blood and blackened remnants are caked on the bathroom floor. The walls have been drenched in blood and they are pocked with scores of bullet holes that look as if they were fired from an automatic weapon at waist level.”

Deliberately firing on civilans

On Saturday, Ali Abunimah reported on a video apparently made by Israeli soldiers from the Givati brigade on 30 July, recording their dedication of the destruction of a mosque in Khuzaa to fallen Israeli soldiers.

Now, after conducting its own investigations into the events between 23 and 25 July, Human Rights Watch has accused the Israeli army of deliberately firing on and killing civilians in the southern Gaza town of Khuzaa, violating several laws of war.

After interviewing surviving witnesses in Khan Younis, Human Rights Watch was able to chronicle the war crimes committed by the Israeli army. Such crimes include firing on civilians carrying white flags in an attempt to flee the village; shooting at medical workers attending to a mortally wounded Red Crescent paramedic volunteer; denying medical care to Palestinians in Israeli custody; and shooting at civilians after they were ordered to exit their homes.

This is not the first time such crimes have been committed in Khuzaa. As both Human Rights Watch and the Goldstone report documented, during Israel’s 2008-2009 offensive on Gaza Israeli soldiers shot at several Palestinians in Khuzaa carrying white flags, killing at least one and injuring more.

....Al-Najjar added that he and about one hundred others had gathered in one house on 23 July. Once the Israelis found them and ordered them to leave, al-Najjar said: “The first one to walk out of the house was Shahid al-Najjar. He had his hands up, but the soldiers shot him. He was shot in the jaw and badly injured, but he survived.”

The army then ordered the rest of the men to take off their clothes before exiting the house. Everyone was then separated by age and gender; women and boys under 14 were ordered to leave the village by foot, while the men were shuffled between houses after putting on their clothes.
“He was shot”

Akram al-Najjar was put in a group with boys ages 14 to 19. He reported: “We had walked from the dunes and had reached the mosque. We got 50 meters past it, and soldiers started shooting at us. The shooting injured three of us. One of them died. He was shot in the stomach.”

According to Akram’s grandfather, 75-year-old Mohammad al-Najjar, Israel detained all the men between the ages of 16 and 50 and “let the rest of us go.” He believes that his three sons are still in Israeli custody, along with hundreds of others that have been detained in Gaza.

The full Human Rights Watch report http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/04/gaza-israeli-soldiers-shoot-and-kill-fleeing-civilians documents several of the laws of war Israel violated in Khuzaa — yet still only a partial picture of what occurred in Khuzaa is illuminated.
In the report, Human Rights Watch urges the Ramallah-based Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas to seek International Criminal Court jurisdiction over crimes committed on and from Palestinian territory as a means to achieve accountability and deter war crimes.

Byrnzie

I hope the Palestinians now join the ICC. The Israeli's and Americans dread this. If the ICC begins a thorough investigation of Israeli and U.S complicity in multiple war crimes, and crimes against humanity, then things will start to get really interesting.

rafie

For anyone that cares, I got to where I needed to be on Monday morning and got a call from my unit saying I did not have to report in and could go home.