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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    g under p said:

    He's been charged with 2nd degree manslaughter

    if it were not on video he would have been charged with nothing.

    i am going to start filming cops.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard somewhere on the news where there's an app that you just push a button it starts to record then automatically uploads the video to YouTube. That's in case a officer tries to confiscate your phone or tries to destroys it....the video is already been uploaded. I think it's called something like You Watch?

    Anybody heard of this app.

    Peace

    I looked into it and there's many of them from Cop Block to this one.....

    http://www.idigitaltimes.com/best-police-recording-apps-securely-record-police-encounters-android-and-ios-without-fear-officers

    Peace
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    When I came home during lunch today, there was a pursuit on the local news. Woman who failed to yield, oddly observant driving (vs the assholes who just fly through intersections and the like). They executed a perfect pit-maneuver, and once she was out of the car and secured - even before, since there seemed to be a communication issue - the officers appeared to be gentle and concerned for her.

    Then two of the cops high-fived each other - I saw it as "yeah! Went down with no harm, no foul to anyone". It was pretty cool to see.
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Posts: 4,007
    edited April 2015
    Yeah it is hard to watch and the footage and a bit dsgusting at first then when you really think about it what the guy was doing I mean really what did he expect and the Cop did what he had to do and atleast people lived so problem dissolved there.
    Post edited by i_lov_it on
  • i_lov_it said:

    Yeah it is hard to watch and the footage and a bit dsgusting at first then when you really think about it what the guy was doing I mean really what did he expect and the Cop did what he had to do and atleast people lived so problem dissolved there.

    I respect this post.

    I respect it because initially I got the impression you felt differently. Now it seems upon further reflection, you have come to another point of view- it's not signalling that you have abandoned your value system.

    Many here- including myself at times- become very rigid in our positions. This is not an ideal quality. Changing your point of view after discussion demonstrates much.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    edited April 2015
    i_lov_it said:

    Yeah it is hard to watch and the footage and a bit dsgusting at first then when you really think about it what the guy was doing I mean really what did he expect and the Cop did what he had to do and atleast people lived so problem dissolved there.

    I wonder if the officers already knew this guy had robbed a convenience store, set a church on fire, broke into a home, stole their car and then drove to wally world to steal a gun, all prior to him being run over that day.
    Post edited by WhatYouTaughtMe on
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Posts: 4,007
    edited April 2015

    i_lov_it said:

    Yeah it is hard to watch and the footage and a bit dsgusting at first then when you really think about it what the guy was doing I mean really what did he expect and the Cop did what he had to do and atleast people lived so problem dissolved there.

    I respect this post.

    I respect it because initially I got the impression you felt differently. Now it seems upon further reflection, you have come to another point of view- it's not signalling that you have abandoned your value system.

    Many here- including myself at times- become very rigid in our positions. This is not an ideal quality. Changing your point of view after discussion demonstrates much.
    Yeah of course I see where your coming from but my point of view has not changed and I'm sorry you ***FEEL*** that way...So upon further "Reflection" of this incident I was CLEARLY just extending on what I said.
    Post edited by i_lov_it on
  • i_lov_it said:

    i_lov_it said:

    Yeah it is hard to watch and the footage and a bit dsgusting at first then when you really think about it what the guy was doing I mean really what did he expect and the Cop did what he had to do and atleast people lived so problem dissolved there.

    I respect this post.

    I respect it because initially I got the impression you felt differently. Now it seems upon further reflection, you have come to another point of view- it's not signalling that you have abandoned your value system.

    Many here- including myself at times- become very rigid in our positions. This is not an ideal quality. Changing your point of view after discussion demonstrates much.
    Yeah of course I see where your coming from but my point of view has not changed and I'm sorry you ***FEEL*** that way...So upon further "Reflection" of this incident I was CLEARLY just extending on what I said.
    Maybe read those two posts of yours and note the differences within them. You might then be able to understand how a reader could think you had changed your perspective.

    This post is weird given the pm you sent me.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Posts: 4,007

    i_lov_it said:

    i_lov_it said:

    Yeah it is hard to watch and the footage and a bit dsgusting at first then when you really think about it what the guy was doing I mean really what did he expect and the Cop did what he had to do and atleast people lived so problem dissolved there.

    I respect this post.

    I respect it because initially I got the impression you felt differently. Now it seems upon further reflection, you have come to another point of view- it's not signalling that you have abandoned your value system.

    Many here- including myself at times- become very rigid in our positions. This is not an ideal quality. Changing your point of view after discussion demonstrates much.
    Yeah of course I see where your coming from but my point of view has not changed and I'm sorry you ***FEEL*** that way...So upon further "Reflection" of this incident I was CLEARLY just extending on what I said.
    Maybe read those two posts of yours and note the differences within them. You might then be able to understand how a reader could think you had changed your perspective.

    This post is weird given the pm you sent me.
    Just simply Thanking you for your honesty mate no "Dramas"...and that's right is your avatar pic Pike Place?
  • i_lov_it said:

    i_lov_it said:

    i_lov_it said:

    Yeah it is hard to watch and the footage and a bit dsgusting at first then when you really think about it what the guy was doing I mean really what did he expect and the Cop did what he had to do and atleast people lived so problem dissolved there.

    I respect this post.

    I respect it because initially I got the impression you felt differently. Now it seems upon further reflection, you have come to another point of view- it's not signalling that you have abandoned your value system.

    Many here- including myself at times- become very rigid in our positions. This is not an ideal quality. Changing your point of view after discussion demonstrates much.
    Yeah of course I see where your coming from but my point of view has not changed and I'm sorry you ***FEEL*** that way...So upon further "Reflection" of this incident I was CLEARLY just extending on what I said.
    Maybe read those two posts of yours and note the differences within them. You might then be able to understand how a reader could think you had changed your perspective.

    This post is weird given the pm you sent me.
    Just simply Thanking you for your honesty mate no "Dramas"...and that's right is your avatar pic Pike Place?
    Pike Place... correct!

    It's the Eddie Vedder solo show poster when he performed at the Benaroyal Hall.

    * With regards to the other stuff... all is good (I hope).
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
  • muskydan said:

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
    why didn't they tase her? why did they have to kill her?

    you don't murder someone in the middle of a mental breakdown who is hospitalized for a mental breakdown...

    more and more i find it very difficult to believe that policemen are always in fear for their lives. all those lethal and non lethal weapons, all that ammo, all that backup that is a walkie call away. seems to me more and more that police actually escalate the situation when they arrive.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    muskydan said:

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
    "...pregnant mental"?? I just hope that was a typo and not your view of this individual.
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255

    muskydan said:

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
    "...pregnant mental"?? I just hope that was a typo and not your view of this individual.
    You really don't know this guy then
  • riotgrlriotgrl Posts: 1,895

    muskydan said:

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
    why didn't they tase her? why did they have to kill her?

    you don't murder someone in the middle of a mental breakdown who is hospitalized for a mental breakdown...

    more and more i find it very difficult to believe that policemen are always in fear for their lives. all those lethal and non lethal weapons, all that ammo, all that backup that is a walkie call away. seems to me more and more that police actually escalate the situation when they arrive.
    Police training is 'shoot to kill', right? That speaks to the notion that the police are "at war" with citizens, imo. . If that is the training then, clearly, we need to change the training so we can change the mentality.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    riotgrl said:

    muskydan said:

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
    why didn't they tase her? why did they have to kill her?

    you don't murder someone in the middle of a mental breakdown who is hospitalized for a mental breakdown...

    more and more i find it very difficult to believe that policemen are always in fear for their lives. all those lethal and non lethal weapons, all that ammo, all that backup that is a walkie call away. seems to me more and more that police actually escalate the situation when they arrive.
    Police training is 'shoot to kill', right? That speaks to the notion that the police are "at war" with citizens, imo. . If that is the training then, clearly, we need to change the training so we can change the mentality.
    I disagree with that notion. I don't think shooting to kill means cops are at war with citizens. At what point do the criminals take responsibility for their actions?
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388

    riotgrl said:

    muskydan said:

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
    why didn't they tase her? why did they have to kill her?

    you don't murder someone in the middle of a mental breakdown who is hospitalized for a mental breakdown...

    more and more i find it very difficult to believe that policemen are always in fear for their lives. all those lethal and non lethal weapons, all that ammo, all that backup that is a walkie call away. seems to me more and more that police actually escalate the situation when they arrive.
    Police training is 'shoot to kill', right? That speaks to the notion that the police are "at war" with citizens, imo. . If that is the training then, clearly, we need to change the training so we can change the mentality.
    I disagree with that notion. I don't think shooting to kill means cops are at war with citizens. At what point do the criminals take responsibility for their actions?
    Balance of threat and response is off. Many cops and one person without a Gun should never result in death.
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  • riotgrlriotgrl Posts: 1,895

    riotgrl said:

    muskydan said:

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
    why didn't they tase her? why did they have to kill her?

    you don't murder someone in the middle of a mental breakdown who is hospitalized for a mental breakdown...

    more and more i find it very difficult to believe that policemen are always in fear for their lives. all those lethal and non lethal weapons, all that ammo, all that backup that is a walkie call away. seems to me more and more that police actually escalate the situation when they arrive.
    Police training is 'shoot to kill', right? That speaks to the notion that the police are "at war" with citizens, imo. . If that is the training then, clearly, we need to change the training so we can change the mentality.
    I disagree with that notion. I don't think shooting to kill means cops are at war with citizens. At what point do the criminals take responsibility for their actions?
    Clearly there is a problem that needs to be addressed within the police community. Nothing that says you can't reexamine how you interact and relate to the citizens for the safety and protection of all.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    riotgrl said:

    riotgrl said:

    muskydan said:

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
    why didn't they tase her? why did they have to kill her?

    you don't murder someone in the middle of a mental breakdown who is hospitalized for a mental breakdown...

    more and more i find it very difficult to believe that policemen are always in fear for their lives. all those lethal and non lethal weapons, all that ammo, all that backup that is a walkie call away. seems to me more and more that police actually escalate the situation when they arrive.
    Police training is 'shoot to kill', right? That speaks to the notion that the police are "at war" with citizens, imo. . If that is the training then, clearly, we need to change the training so we can change the mentality.
    I disagree with that notion. I don't think shooting to kill means cops are at war with citizens. At what point do the criminals take responsibility for their actions?
    Clearly there is a problem that needs to be addressed within the police community. Nothing that says you can't reexamine how you interact and relate to the citizens for the safety and protection of all.
    Clearly you don't understand when an individual comes after a citizen or a police officer w/ any sort of weapon that can maim or kill expect the police to use any force necessary to eliminate the threat which often times turns out very badly for an offender...mentally challenged , pregnant, female, 90 years old, 10 years old, ect....all the above can and have killed innocents and police.
  • It's that behavior, that I expect from cops…
    It's become so commonplace to see the less than good police stories in the news, that seeing one of maturity and respect for life is "making the news".
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Wow, great find.

    Can we clone this cop?

  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524

    It's that behavior, that I expect from cops…
    It's become so commonplace to see the less than good police stories in the news, that seeing one of maturity and respect for life is "making the news".
    It pretty much is the same in all types of stories. So much bad shit going on that presenting the the good that happens regularly is spotlighted.

    Reminds me of Chris Rock's deadbeat-dad bit.

    Nature of the media beast, I guess.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited April 2015
    muskydan said:

    riotgrl said:

    riotgrl said:

    muskydan said:

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
    why didn't they tase her? why did they have to kill her?

    you don't murder someone in the middle of a mental breakdown who is hospitalized for a mental breakdown...

    more and more i find it very difficult to believe that policemen are always in fear for their lives. all those lethal and non lethal weapons, all that ammo, all that backup that is a walkie call away. seems to me more and more that police actually escalate the situation when they arrive.
    Police training is 'shoot to kill', right? That speaks to the notion that the police are "at war" with citizens, imo. . If that is the training then, clearly, we need to change the training so we can change the mentality.
    I disagree with that notion. I don't think shooting to kill means cops are at war with citizens. At what point do the criminals take responsibility for their actions?
    Clearly there is a problem that needs to be addressed within the police community. Nothing that says you can't reexamine how you interact and relate to the citizens for the safety and protection of all.
    Clearly you don't understand when an individual comes after a citizen or a police officer w/ any sort of weapon that can maim or kill expect the police to use any force necessary to eliminate the threat which often times turns out very badly for an offender...mentally challenged , pregnant, female, 90 years old, 10 years old, ect....all the above can and have killed innocents and police.
    "Any force" is the problem and thank inventors of small mobile cameras to finally stop police from just using "Any Force".
    Post edited by callen on
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  • callen said:

    muskydan said:

    riotgrl said:

    riotgrl said:

    muskydan said:

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
    why didn't they tase her? why did they have to kill her?

    you don't murder someone in the middle of a mental breakdown who is hospitalized for a mental breakdown...

    more and more i find it very difficult to believe that policemen are always in fear for their lives. all those lethal and non lethal weapons, all that ammo, all that backup that is a walkie call away. seems to me more and more that police actually escalate the situation when they arrive.
    Police training is 'shoot to kill', right? That speaks to the notion that the police are "at war" with citizens, imo. . If that is the training then, clearly, we need to change the training so we can change the mentality.
    I disagree with that notion. I don't think shooting to kill means cops are at war with citizens. At what point do the criminals take responsibility for their actions?
    Clearly there is a problem that needs to be addressed within the police community. Nothing that says you can't reexamine how you interact and relate to the citizens for the safety and protection of all.
    Clearly you don't understand when an individual comes after a citizen or a police officer w/ any sort of weapon that can maim or kill expect the police to use any force necessary to eliminate the threat which often times turns out very badly for an offender...mentally challenged , pregnant, female, 90 years old, 10 years old, ect....all the above can and have killed innocents and police.
    "Any force" is the problem and thank inventors of small mobile cameras to finally stop police from just using "Any Force".
    Thank inventors of small mobile cameras to finally show what force seemingly regular citizens are capable of doing to police.
  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    callen said:

    muskydan said:

    riotgrl said:

    riotgrl said:

    muskydan said:

    can they go to jail for killing a fetus?
    Sure they could, only if the pregnant mental was not being a threat to others and the responding officers by not dropping a KNIFE. Don't forget that teeny weeny detail….Good Grief!!!!
    why didn't they tase her? why did they have to kill her?

    you don't murder someone in the middle of a mental breakdown who is hospitalized for a mental breakdown...

    more and more i find it very difficult to believe that policemen are always in fear for their lives. all those lethal and non lethal weapons, all that ammo, all that backup that is a walkie call away. seems to me more and more that police actually escalate the situation when they arrive.
    Police training is 'shoot to kill', right? That speaks to the notion that the police are "at war" with citizens, imo. . If that is the training then, clearly, we need to change the training so we can change the mentality.
    I disagree with that notion. I don't think shooting to kill means cops are at war with citizens. At what point do the criminals take responsibility for their actions?
    Clearly there is a problem that needs to be addressed within the police community. Nothing that says you can't reexamine how you interact and relate to the citizens for the safety and protection of all.
    Clearly you don't understand when an individual comes after a citizen or a police officer w/ any sort of weapon that can maim or kill expect the police to use any force necessary to eliminate the threat which often times turns out very badly for an offender...mentally challenged , pregnant, female, 90 years old, 10 years old, ect....all the above can and have killed innocents and police.
    "Any force" is the problem and thank inventors of small mobile cameras to finally stop police from just using "Any Force".
    Right, hopefully departments will also supply its officers w/ capes and a cute tights so they can do all the nifty non-lethal shit you see in the movies and TV that super heros perform to get the bad guy. Perhaps some advanced dodging knives and bats classes or a catching bullets with your teeth seminar will be included too after the adopt a thug luncheon.
    Soon enough liberal society will get the Kind of policing they are demanding...all I got to say is be careful what you wish for when the bad guy no longer fears the No Good Poo-leece.
  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    lol true but
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