Topics like Rand's bill help you differentiate between people who take an interest in politics because they want to advocate for positive governing vs those who found it's the only acceptable avenue to channel their inherent anger
Sounds like "downsplaining to me." What's so great about Randy Paul? I mean, I guess if you're a white male, he might be great? I'd have way more respect for him if he shed his faux libertarianism and professed his repub bona fides or fully embraced his libertarianism and ran as one. But he's a fraud.
From Jan 2011 to Jun 2020, Paul missed 132 of 2,788 roll call votes, which is 4.7%.
This is
much worse than
the median of 1.7%
among the lifetime records of senators currently serving.
The chart below reports missed votes over time.
We don’t track why legislators miss votes, but it’s often due to medical absenses and major life events.
Missed Votes (%)
Line chart with 39 data points.
The chart has 1 X axis displaying categories.
The chart has 1 Y axis displaying Missed Votes (%). Range: 0 to 30.
And yes, I googled this but I have been following the Pauls ever since I encountered Lyndon LaRouch supporters outside the post office and his dad was a POTUS candidate, and more so when Randy burst onto the scene. So, I'm not opposed to him because of some inherent "anger" but because he's a fraud and a hypocrite, playing the grandstander.
I'm talking about a single bill, which you make no mention of. Instead you manically googled a bunch of unrelated stuff. You're only on here looking for fights.
No, I think Randy Paul is a grandstander and his holding up of the anti-lynching bill is a dog whistle. His sponsorship of the bill you mentioned is more, well, Randystanding and too little too late in his illustrious career of carrying repub, racist water, all the while pretending to have some kind of libertarian ideal. An opinion not born of "inherent anger" but one of watching his political career over an extended period of time, listening to his rhetoric and seeing who and how he votes. Human Rights Campaign Score: 0. Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable.
And you're only on here looking for your safe space (I don't think you'll understand how that sounds as it relates to the bold).
Thats what I say! Halifax is a comrad bot. Prowls around this and probably other social sites. He lives to bully people online with Spin and smear tactics. Takes real courage to do that. Little does he know he's a fool.
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Saturday Night Live alum Jay Pharoah says LA police kneeled on his neck
Comedian shares video and says he was exercising when four officers approached him with guns drawn
The comedian Jay Pharoah says he was recently stopped and handcuffed by Los Angeles police, with one officer kneeling on his neck in a restraint similar to the one that ended in George Floyd’s death.
In a video posted to Instagram, the former Saturday Night Live
actor said he was exercising in Los Angeles when four officers
approached him with guns drawn, handcuffed him and held him to the
ground .
Pharoah said the incident took place about a week before Ahmaud
Arbery was shot and killed by two white men while jogging in Glynn
county, Georgia. He said the officers told him he was held because he
fit the description of “a black man in this area, with gray sweatpants
on and a gray shirt”.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Topics like Rand's bill help you differentiate between people who take an interest in politics because they want to advocate for positive governing vs those who found it's the only acceptable avenue to channel their inherent anger
Sounds like "downsplaining to me." What's so great about Randy Paul? I mean, I guess if you're a white male, he might be great? I'd have way more respect for him if he shed his faux libertarianism and professed his repub bona fides or fully embraced his libertarianism and ran as one. But he's a fraud.
From Jan 2011 to Jun 2020, Paul missed 132 of 2,788 roll call votes, which is 4.7%.
This is
much worse than
the median of 1.7%
among the lifetime records of senators currently serving.
The chart below reports missed votes over time.
We don’t track why legislators miss votes, but it’s often due to medical absenses and major life events.
Missed Votes (%)
Line chart with 39 data points.
The chart has 1 X axis displaying categories.
The chart has 1 Y axis displaying Missed Votes (%). Range: 0 to 30.
And yes, I googled this but I have been following the Pauls ever since I encountered Lyndon LaRouch supporters outside the post office and his dad was a POTUS candidate, and more so when Randy burst onto the scene. So, I'm not opposed to him because of some inherent "anger" but because he's a fraud and a hypocrite, playing the grandstander.
I'm talking about a single bill, which you make no mention of. Instead you manically googled a bunch of unrelated stuff. You're only on here looking for fights.
No, I think Randy Paul is a grandstander and his holding up of the anti-lynching bill is a dog whistle. His sponsorship of the bill you mentioned is more, well, Randystanding and too little too late in his illustrious career of carrying repub, racist water, all the while pretending to have some kind of libertarian ideal. An opinion not born of "inherent anger" but one of watching his political career over an extended period of time, listening to his rhetoric and seeing who and how he votes. Human Rights Campaign Score: 0. Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable.
And you're only on here looking for your safe space (I don't think you'll understand how that sounds as it relates to the bold).
Thats what I say! Halifax is a comrad bot. Prowls around this and probably other social sites. He lives to bully people online with Spin and smear tactics. Takes real courage to do that. Little does he know he's a fool.
AOC was asked "what does an America with defunded police look like to you". Here's her answer:
The good news is that it actually doesn't take a ton of imagination.
It looks like a suburb. Affluent white communities already live in a world where the choose to fund youth, health, housing etc more than they fund police. These communities have lower crime rates not because they have more police, but bc they have more resources to support healthy society in a way that reduces crime.
When a teenager or preteen does something harmful in a suburb (I say teen bc this is often where lifelong carceral cycles begin for Black and Brown communities), White communities bend over backwards to find alternatives to incarceration for their loved ones to "protect their future," like community service or rehab or restorative measures. Why don't we treat Black and Brown people the same way? Why doesn't the criminal system care about Black teens' futures the way they care for White teens' futures? Why doesn't the news use Black people's graduation or family photos in stories the way they do when they cover White people (eg Brock Turner) who commit harmful crimes? Affluent White suburbs also design their own lives so that they walk through the world without having much interruption or interaction with police at all aside from community events and speeding tickets (and many of these communities try to reduce those, too!)
Just starting THERE would be a dramatically and radically different world than what we are experiencing now.
Food for thought, for all those who argue that "defunding the police" would lead to increased crime rate and a "lawless society".
AOC? That radical commie ANTIFA liberal who’s going down in the primary because of her opposition to Amazon? That AOC? The horror of her rhetoric!
AOC was asked "what does an America with defunded police look like to you". Here's her answer:
The good news is that it actually doesn't take a ton of imagination.
It looks like a suburb. Affluent white communities already live in a world where the choose to fund youth, health, housing etc more than they fund police. These communities have lower crime rates not because they have more police, but bc they have more resources to support healthy society in a way that reduces crime.
When a teenager or preteen does something harmful in a suburb (I say teen bc this is often where lifelong carceral cycles begin for Black and Brown communities), White communities bend over backwards to find alternatives to incarceration for their loved ones to "protect their future," like community service or rehab or restorative measures. Why don't we treat Black and Brown people the same way? Why doesn't the criminal system care about Black teens' futures the way they care for White teens' futures? Why doesn't the news use Black people's graduation or family photos in stories the way they do when they cover White people (eg Brock Turner) who commit harmful crimes? Affluent White suburbs also design their own lives so that they walk through the world without having much interruption or interaction with police at all aside from community events and speeding tickets (and many of these communities try to reduce those, too!)
Just starting THERE would be a dramatically and radically different world than what we are experiencing now.
Food for thought, for all those who argue that "defunding the police" would lead to increased crime rate and a "lawless society".
AOC? That radical commie ANTIFA liberal who’s going down in the primary because of her opposition to Amazon? That AOC? The horror of her rhetoric!
commie antifa liberal? Is that a thing? and... apparently there must non-radical ones too, since you had to establish she's a "radical" one..
You are right... She may get voted out in her next election... that's part of the gig. You know how it works.. yeah!
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"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
Saturday Night Live alum Jay Pharoah says LA police kneeled on his neck
Comedian shares video and says he was exercising when four officers approached him with guns drawn
The comedian Jay Pharoah says he was recently stopped and handcuffed by Los Angeles police, with one officer kneeling on his neck in a restraint similar to the one that ended in George Floyd’s death.
In a video posted to Instagram, the former Saturday Night Live
actor said he was exercising in Los Angeles when four officers
approached him with guns drawn, handcuffed him and held him to the
ground .
Pharoah said the incident took place about a week before Ahmaud
Arbery was shot and killed by two white men while jogging in Glynn
county, Georgia. He said the officers told him he was held because he
fit the description of “a black man in this area, with gray sweatpants
on and a gray shirt”.
"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
After the shooting it Atlanta Friday, I’ve seen many call for the firing and prosecution of both officers. Im not convinced either way about the officer who fired the gun, waiting for more information to come out. But I don’t get what the other did wrong? They were attempting to arrest him for a DUI when he assaulted both officers and ran away with one of their tasers before firing it at one of the cops. What did the other that didn’t fire do wrong in this case?
After the shooting it Atlanta Friday, I’ve seen many call for the firing and prosecution of both officers. Im not convinced either way about the officer who fired the gun, waiting for more information to come out. But I don’t get what the other did wrong? They were attempting to arrest him for a DUI when he assaulted both officers and ran away with one of their tasers before firing it at one of the cops. What did the other that didn’t fire do wrong in this case?
Not sure he did anything wrong, either. Shooting someone in the back is never going to look good, and the officer who fired obviously needs to face severe consequences, but the other officer...not sure. I know one of the officers runs back to the squad car to get prepared for a medical response, but I'm not sure if it was the one who fired or not.
After the shooting it Atlanta Friday, I’ve seen many call for the firing and prosecution of both officers. Im not convinced either way about the officer who fired the gun, waiting for more information to come out. But I don’t get what the other did wrong? They were attempting to arrest him for a DUI when he assaulted both officers and ran away with one of their tasers before firing it at one of the cops. What did the other that didn’t fire do wrong in this case?
Not sure he did anything wrong, either. Shooting someone in the back is never going to look good, and the officer who fired obviously needs to face severe consequences, but the other officer...not sure. I know one of the officers runs back to the squad car to get prepared for a medical response, but I'm not sure if it was the one who fired or not.
Yeah, I’m puzzled why the mayor and other leaders have called for the immediate firing and some cases prosecution of both.
Even the cop who did fire doesn’t seem like there anything for criminal prosecution. All he has to do is make a statement that he thought it was a gun. The whole thing lasted about 12 seconds, so if he were to claim he felt the guy reached for his weapons that’s backed up by the fact he wound up with a taser. When he turns around to shoot it the cop has a fraction of a second to react and could easily say he thought it was a gun. Or even admit he knew it was a taser and say he felt the guy go for his weapons and feared for his safety that if he was incapacitated he would continue to do more harm. Either way, you don’t have to believe his story 100%, just need reasonable doubt. And I think it’s there. But that’s based off the limited information out so far, so I’m not stuck on that mindset.
After the shooting it Atlanta Friday, I’ve seen many call for the firing and prosecution of both officers. Im not convinced either way about the officer who fired the gun, waiting for more information to come out. But I don’t get what the other did wrong? They were attempting to arrest him for a DUI when he assaulted both officers and ran away with one of their tasers before firing it at one of the cops. What did the other that didn’t fire do wrong in this case?
Not sure he did anything wrong, either. Shooting someone in the back is never going to look good, and the officer who fired obviously needs to face severe consequences, but the other officer...not sure. I know one of the officers runs back to the squad car to get prepared for a medical response, but I'm not sure if it was the one who fired or not.
Yeah, I’m puzzled why the mayor and other leaders have called for the immediate firing and some cases prosecution of both.
Even the cop who did fire doesn’t seem like there anything for criminal prosecution. All he has to do is make a statement that he thought it was a gun. The whole thing lasted about 12 seconds, so if he were to claim he felt the guy reached for his weapons that’s backed up by the fact he wound up with a taser. When he turns around to shoot it the cop has a fraction of a second to react and could easily say he thought it was a gun. Or even admit he knew it was a taser and say he felt the guy go for his weapons and feared for his safety that if he was incapacitated he would continue to do more harm. Either way, you don’t have to believe his story 100%, just need reasonable doubt. And I think it’s there. But that’s based off the limited information out so far, so I’m not stuck on that mindset.
He was shot in the back though, so the "fearing for his life" thing is pretty close to beyond reasonable doubt.
They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. Maybe I'm misinterpreting this though and you just mean charge later without the arrest? I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others.
They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others.
I agree, Been hearing the same thi Nd, either CNN or MSNBC has a guest saying if he was white he would have been to walk home. I don’t believe that, 0.09 maybe but not for being passed out drunk in a car,
And the cost of anDUI is enormous. I heard the average is something like 20k after legal fees and increase to insurance. That doesn’t factor in jobs you don’t get when they asking you’ve ever had a DUI.
They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others.
I agree, Been hearing the same thi Nd, either CNN or MSNBC has a guest saying if he was white he would have been to walk home. I don’t believe that, 0.09 maybe but not for being passed out drunk in a car,
And the cost of anDUI is enormous. I heard the average is something like 20k after legal fees and increase to insurance. That doesn’t factor in jobs you don’t get when they asking you’ve ever had a DUI.
I got taken in on "suspicion" of being intoxicated. Car towed, brought down to station to blow. Blew wayyyy under. Let go, no charges but car was in impound. Asked the cop for a ride home, he wouldn't do it. Called a friend.
They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others.
I agree, Been hearing the same thi Nd, either CNN or MSNBC has a guest saying if he was white he would have been to walk home. I don’t believe that, 0.09 maybe but not for being passed out drunk in a car,
And the cost of anDUI is enormous. I heard the average is something like 20k after legal fees and increase to insurance. That doesn’t factor in jobs you don’t get when they asking you’ve ever had a DUI.
I got taken in on "suspicion" of being intoxicated. Car towed, brought down to station to blow. Blew wayyyy under. Let go, no charges but car was in impound. Asked the cop for a ride home, he wouldn't do it. Called a friend.
Bastards...
Wow, I’m surprised they were allowed the impound based on suspicion. That had to cost a few hundred bucks, right? Did you fail a bunch of field tests and forget your ABCs or something?
They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others.
I agree, Been hearing the same thi Nd, either CNN or MSNBC has a guest saying if he was white he would have been to walk home. I don’t believe that, 0.09 maybe but not for being passed out drunk in a car,
And the cost of anDUI is enormous. I heard the average is something like 20k after legal fees and increase to insurance. That doesn’t factor in jobs you don’t get when they asking you’ve ever had a DUI.
I got taken in on "suspicion" of being intoxicated. Car towed, brought down to station to blow. Blew wayyyy under. Let go, no charges but car was in impound. Asked the cop for a ride home, he wouldn't do it. Called a friend.
Bastards...
Wow, I’m surprised they were allowed the impound based on suspicion. That had to cost a few hundred bucks, right? Did you fail a bunch of field tests and forget your ABCs or something?
No, the cop was a jerk, I befriended him after the whole thing though. He said I was "borderline" from what he could tell from the field sobriety tests. I said "if i'm borderline then let me go, I'm headed home."
He declined and off I went in cuffs to the station. Only time I was ever in cuffs.
Yes it cost me $200 to get the car out the NEXT DAY.
I was pissed because I always had a 2 beer limit for driving. Anymore and I call a cab.
They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. Maybe I'm misinterpreting this though and you just mean charge later without the arrest? I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others.
Hadn't seen but the final 2-3 minutes...just watched the entire 43 minutes...didn't realize he was so drunk he had no idea where he was..Fuck that guy..let him rot in jail..ooops
Now I don't know why the cops were harassing this (presumably) homeless man, but fuck, just do what they say and you won't get fucking shot. No instead he sits down and begins to put his hands in his pants. Ugh...
Now I don't know why the cops were harassing this (presumably) homeless man, but fuck, just do what they say and you won't get fucking shot. No instead he sits down and begins to put his hands in his pants. Ugh...
I hate comments like that on Twitter with just a fraction of the story. The cops were obviously called out for a reason, a squad armed like that doesn’t just randomly show up and pick a target.
Now does reaching towards his pants justify shooting him? I don’t know, if They were called out because he was threatening people with a gun and just shot someone then yes. If he was just a homeless bothering people then no. But I’ve lived in high homeless populations before and never once seen police respond to a nuisance call like that.
Now I don't know why the cops were harassing this (presumably) homeless man, but fuck, just do what they say and you won't get fucking shot. No instead he sits down and begins to put his hands in his pants. Ugh...
I hate comments like that on Twitter with just a fraction of the story. The cops were obviously called out for a reason, a squad armed like that doesn’t just randomly show up and pick a target.
Now does reaching towards his pants justify shooting him? I don’t know, if They were called out because he was threatening people with a gun and just shot someone then yes. If he was just a homeless bothering people then no. But I’ve lived in high homeless populations before and never once seen police respond to a nuisance call like that.
Yeah I'm not about to start speculating as to why the cops responded like that, or why they were called out in the first place. But just nothing good will ever come of not cooperating with police. Even if they're totally in the wrong. It's just not worth the trouble. Look at the guy in Atlanta the other day. He could've been booked on a DUI, but now he's dead. Was it a justified use of force? That's for others to decide. But it was the guy in Atlanta's own poor decision to resist arrest that led to his death. It's sad. I'm sure if he could have a do-over, he'd just let them handcuff him, but there are no do-overs. That's why you gotta be smart when you're confronted by police (or confronted by anyone that you feel can do you harm, really).
Now I don't know why the cops were harassing this (presumably) homeless man, but fuck, just do what they say and you won't get fucking shot. No instead he sits down and begins to put his hands in his pants. Ugh...
I hate comments like that on Twitter with just a fraction of the story. The cops were obviously called out for a reason, a squad armed like that doesn’t just randomly show up and pick a target.
Now does reaching towards his pants justify shooting him? I don’t know, if They were called out because he was threatening people with a gun and just shot someone then yes. If he was just a homeless bothering people then no. But I’ve lived in high homeless populations before and never once seen police respond to a nuisance call like that.
Yeah I'm not about to start speculating as to why the cops responded like that, or why they were called out in the first place. But just nothing good will ever come of not cooperating with police. Even if they're totally in the wrong. It's just not worth the trouble. Look at the guy in Atlanta the other day. He could've been booked on a DUI, but now he's dead. Was it a justified use of force? That's for others to decide. But it was the guy in Atlanta's own poor decision to resist arrest that led to his death. It's sad. I'm sure if he could have a do-over, he'd just let them handcuff him, but there are no do-overs. That's why you gotta be smart when you're confronted by police (or confronted by anyone that you feel can do you harm, really).
Many people who are homeless are on the street because of mental illness, substance abuse, or cognitive issues that make it challenging for them to get by day to day and ALSO for them to deal with situations like armed police suddenly making demands on them. It is always on police to behave in a professional and responsible manner and use the many other techniques available to deal with these situations rather than defaulting to use of force.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Now I don't know why the cops were harassing this (presumably) homeless man, but fuck, just do what they say and you won't get fucking shot. No instead he sits down and begins to put his hands in his pants. Ugh...
I hate comments like that on Twitter with just a fraction of the story. The cops were obviously called out for a reason, a squad armed like that doesn’t just randomly show up and pick a target.
Now does reaching towards his pants justify shooting him? I don’t know, if They were called out because he was threatening people with a gun and just shot someone then yes. If he was just a homeless bothering people then no. But I’ve lived in high homeless populations before and never once seen police respond to a nuisance call like that.
Yeah I'm not about to start speculating as to why the cops responded like that, or why they were called out in the first place. But just nothing good will ever come of not cooperating with police. Even if they're totally in the wrong. It's just not worth the trouble. Look at the guy in Atlanta the other day. He could've been booked on a DUI, but now he's dead. Was it a justified use of force? That's for others to decide. But it was the guy in Atlanta's own poor decision to resist arrest that led to his death. It's sad. I'm sure if he could have a do-over, he'd just let them handcuff him, but there are no do-overs. That's why you gotta be smart when you're confronted by police (or confronted by anyone that you feel can do you harm, really).
Many people who are homeless are on the street because of mental illness, substance abuse, or cognitive issues that make it challenging for them to get by day to day and ALSO for them to deal with situations like armed police suddenly making demands on them. It is always on police to behave in a professional and responsible manner and use the many other techniques available to deal with these situations rather than defaulting to use of force.
I don't disagree with that. Unfortunately, you can't count on them to behave in that responsible manner.
Based on the number of cops and the fact the already had their assault rifles out before they approached makes me assume they were responding to a call about a violent crime. In which case, assuming he just stabbed or shotn someone or armed robbery or something, their approach seems justified. Doesn’t matter if he’s homeless or mentally ill at that point if he’s already put lives at risk. But like I said before, I don’t know and am just speculating. If that wasn’t the case then their reaction was pretty ridiculous.
Based on the number of cops and the fact the already had their assault rifles out before they approached makes me assume they were responding to a call about a violent crime. In which case, assuming he just stabbed or shotn someone or armed robbery or something, their approach seems justified. Doesn’t matter if he’s homeless or mentally ill at that point if he’s already put lives at risk. But like I said before, I don’t know and am just speculating. If that wasn’t the case then their reaction was pretty ridiculous.
Good point. To show up with rifles drawn like that suggests that they were responding to something serious. But like you said, if they weren't, then it's pretty ridiculous.
Police keep using Twitter for misinformation and rumor-mongering about protesters
June 16, 2020 at 1:18 p.m. EDT
Late Monday night, two New York City police unions took to Twitter to accuse Shake Shack employees of trying to poison police officers with beverages they were served.
The New York City Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association said the officers had come “under attack."
The New York City Detectives’ Endowment Association went a step further, claiming their “fellow officers were intentionally poisoned by one or more workers."
Neither of these tweets, it turns out, were accurate. New York Police Department Chief of Detectives Rodney Harrison said Tuesday morning that a “thorough investigation” had revealed no criminal act.
The Detectives’ Endowment Association now acknowledges it was “evidently” an accident. Its tweet, which had been retweeted more than 12,000 times, has now been deleted.
What is so remarkable about this flap is the language used. Rather than note that the officers’ beverages had toxic substances in them and calling for an investigation, both unions immediately alleged it was a deliberate attack. Groups whose job it is to carry out the law jumped straight to criminal wrongdoing, not allowing for it to be an accident or any other explanation.
Increasingly, in recent weeks, this is the story of how some police departments and organizations have handled the protests and other unrest over the May 25 killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis and others at the hands of police officers. Often using their official Twitter accounts, they have tweeted allegations without substantiation when other, less-nefarious explanations are just as plausible — and, in some cases, have turned out to actually be the case.
The Columbus, Ohio, police department on June 1 tweeted an image of a colorful bus in which it said it found “bats, rocks, meat cleavers, axes, clubs & other projectiles.” It said “there was a suspicion of supplying riot equipment to rioters.”
Mayor Andrew Ginther (D) later suggested the bus showed the violence was worse than the arrest numbers indicated. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) also tweeted sarcastically: “But I guess still ‘no evidence’ of an organized effort to inject violence & anarchy into the protests right?”
Reporting since then indicates the bus was, in fact, used by traveling street performers. The clubs were juggling clubs, according to those familiar with the bus. The hatchet was next to a wood-burning stove the bus used. The meat cleaver was from a knife block used to prepare meals. The rocks were crystals and fossils.
The Columbus police have said the investigation is ongoing, but there are very logical explanations for all the items found on the bus. Yet it was held up by police and the mayor as evidence of something nefarious.
The Spokane, Wash., Police Department on June 7 tweeted that it had seized a “bucket of rocks staged downtown” to prevent it from being used for violence.
The next day, though, Spokane Police Sgt. Terry Preuninger admitted that the rocks didn’t appear to be “staged” at all. “In one of those cases, after I saw the photos, it looks like that may have just been something that was there naturally and not something staged for a protest or criminal behavior,” Preuninger said.
The tweet has not been taken down.
The Seattle Police Department on June 6 tweeted that protesters had thrown “improvised explosives” at officers.
The images accompanying the claim, though, appeared to show regular candles accompanied by glass. While potentially dangerous, it is not clear what the explosive was. As The Washington Post reported:
The department’s Twitter account said individuals were throwing “rocks/bottles/and explosives” at police outside the East Precinct when officers escalated their response. Multiple people pointed out that the photo the department tweeted of what it claimed was an improvised explosive may, in fact, show a candle. A label in one of the images clearly says “candle.”
The Kansas City Police Department tweeted May 31 that they had “discovered stashes of bricks and rocks in & around the Plaza and Westport to be used during a riot.”
Kansas City Police Capt. David Jackson scaled that back somewhat, though, when he told reporters, “I sense that they’re probably there for nefarious use.”
BuzzFeed News has reported that reports of bricks being left for protesters across the country — most of them spread on social media but not originating with police — often had logical explanations, including that they had been there before the protests and/or were linked to construction. Jackson said there was no construction in the area.
The White House at one point tweeted and then deleted a video that alleged, “Antifa and professional anarchists are invading our communities, staging bricks and weapons to instigate violence. These are acts of domestic terror.” This claim got four Pinocchios from The Post’s Fact Checker.
While it is possible some of these bricks could have been left for nefarious purposes, as BuzzFeed noted, Kansas City police claimed without offering evidence that they were deliberately left for rioting. Jackson’s comments suggested whatever evidence existed was not definitive.
New York City Police Commissioner Dermot Shea tweeted a similar allegation on June 3.
“This is what our cops are up against: Organized looters, strategically placing caches of bricks & rocks at locations throughout NYC,” Shea said.
As Vice News reported, though, there was no unrest in the area, and others pointed to construction in the neighborhood:
There is one major issue with that story: VICE has confirmed the video was taken on a street corner in Gravesend, a part of South Brooklyn where no protests, looting or rioting actually occurred. Interviews with both workers in the area and location data from both Snapchat and Instagram show there were no protests anywhere near that corner.
Shea has also tweeted unfounded allegations about protesters using concrete mixed in ice cream containers.
“Anyone with information please call” police, he tweeted June 8, appending a New York Post headline that said, “NYPD finds concrete disguised as ice cream at George Floyd protests.”
As many soon pointed out, mixing concrete in such containers is a common method of testing mixtures on construction sites. The markings on the containers even appeared to indicate what mixtures each had.
Shea at another point tweeted pictures of tools allegedly seized from people arrested in protests in the Bronx. The four pictures he tweeted appeared to show the same tools from different angles.
Some of these allegations could turn out to be substantiated. But many of them have not or seemed to inflate the danger actually posed. In each case, a criminal suggestion was tweeted out in a way that raises suspicions about the intentions of the protesters and often their level of organization.
Many of them are the kind of thing you see on social media — using inference and innuendo to raise suspicions about adversaries. In these cases, though, they are promoted by police, whose job it is to carry out the law and not jump to conclusions about criminality.
“We are living in a toxic time: One that relies increasingly on the selective use of a combination of things: some facts, misinformation, rumor, false conclusions that can be drawn from all of them, sometimes spill over into social media or mainstream media,” he said.
Police keep using Twitter for misinformation and rumor-mongering about protesters
June 16, 2020 at 1:18 p.m. EDT
Late Monday night, two New York City police unions took to Twitter to accuse Shake Shack employees of trying to poison police officers with beverages they were served.
The New York City Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association said the officers had come “under attack."
The New York City Detectives’ Endowment Association went a step further, claiming their “fellow officers were intentionally poisoned by one or more workers."
Neither of these tweets, it turns out, were accurate. New York Police Department Chief of Detectives Rodney Harrison said Tuesday morning that a “thorough investigation” had revealed no criminal act.
The Detectives’ Endowment Association now acknowledges it was “evidently” an accident. Its tweet, which had been retweeted more than 12,000 times, has now been deleted.
What is so remarkable about this flap is the language used. Rather than note that the officers’ beverages had toxic substances in them and calling for an investigation, both unions immediately alleged it was a deliberate attack. Groups whose job it is to carry out the law jumped straight to criminal wrongdoing, not allowing for it to be an accident or any other explanation.
Increasingly, in recent weeks, this is the story of how some police departments and organizations have handled the protests and other unrest over the May 25 killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis and others at the hands of police officers. Often using their official Twitter accounts, they have tweeted allegations without substantiation when other, less-nefarious explanations are just as plausible — and, in some cases, have turned out to actually be the case.
The Columbus, Ohio, police department on June 1 tweeted an image of a colorful bus in which it said it found “bats, rocks, meat cleavers, axes, clubs & other projectiles.” It said “there was a suspicion of supplying riot equipment to rioters.”
Mayor Andrew Ginther (D) later suggested the bus showed the violence was worse than the arrest numbers indicated. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) also tweeted sarcastically: “But I guess still ‘no evidence’ of an organized effort to inject violence & anarchy into the protests right?”
Reporting since then indicates the bus was, in fact, used by traveling street performers. The clubs were juggling clubs, according to those familiar with the bus. The hatchet was next to a wood-burning stove the bus used. The meat cleaver was from a knife block used to prepare meals. The rocks were crystals and fossils.
The Columbus police have said the investigation is ongoing, but there are very logical explanations for all the items found on the bus. Yet it was held up by police and the mayor as evidence of something nefarious.
The Spokane, Wash., Police Department on June 7 tweeted that it had seized a “bucket of rocks staged downtown” to prevent it from being used for violence.
The next day, though, Spokane Police Sgt. Terry Preuninger admitted that the rocks didn’t appear to be “staged” at all. “In one of those cases, after I saw the photos, it looks like that may have just been something that was there naturally and not something staged for a protest or criminal behavior,” Preuninger said.
The tweet has not been taken down.
The Seattle Police Department on June 6 tweeted that protesters had thrown “improvised explosives” at officers.
The images accompanying the claim, though, appeared to show regular candles accompanied by glass. While potentially dangerous, it is not clear what the explosive was. As The Washington Post reported:
The department’s Twitter account said individuals were throwing “rocks/bottles/and explosives” at police outside the East Precinct when officers escalated their response. Multiple people pointed out that the photo the department tweeted of what it claimed was an improvised explosive may, in fact, show a candle. A label in one of the images clearly says “candle.”
The Kansas City Police Department tweeted May 31 that they had “discovered stashes of bricks and rocks in & around the Plaza and Westport to be used during a riot.”
Kansas City Police Capt. David Jackson scaled that back somewhat, though, when he told reporters, “I sense that they’re probably there for nefarious use.”
BuzzFeed News has reported that reports of bricks being left for protesters across the country — most of them spread on social media but not originating with police — often had logical explanations, including that they had been there before the protests and/or were linked to construction. Jackson said there was no construction in the area.
The White House at one point tweeted and then deleted a video that alleged, “Antifa and professional anarchists are invading our communities, staging bricks and weapons to instigate violence. These are acts of domestic terror.” This claim got four Pinocchios from The Post’s Fact Checker.
While it is possible some of these bricks could have been left for nefarious purposes, as BuzzFeed noted, Kansas City police claimed without offering evidence that they were deliberately left for rioting. Jackson’s comments suggested whatever evidence existed was not definitive.
New York City Police Commissioner Dermot Shea tweeted a similar allegation on June 3.
“This is what our cops are up against: Organized looters, strategically placing caches of bricks & rocks at locations throughout NYC,” Shea said.
As Vice News reported, though, there was no unrest in the area, and others pointed to construction in the neighborhood:
There is one major issue with that story: VICE has confirmed the video was taken on a street corner in Gravesend, a part of South Brooklyn where no protests, looting or rioting actually occurred. Interviews with both workers in the area and location data from both Snapchat and Instagram show there were no protests anywhere near that corner.
Shea has also tweeted unfounded allegations about protesters using concrete mixed in ice cream containers.
“Anyone with information please call” police, he tweeted June 8, appending a New York Post headline that said, “NYPD finds concrete disguised as ice cream at George Floyd protests.”
As many soon pointed out, mixing concrete in such containers is a common method of testing mixtures on construction sites. The markings on the containers even appeared to indicate what mixtures each had.
Shea at another point tweeted pictures of tools allegedly seized from people arrested in protests in the Bronx. The four pictures he tweeted appeared to show the same tools from different angles.
Some of these allegations could turn out to be substantiated. But many of them have not or seemed to inflate the danger actually posed. In each case, a criminal suggestion was tweeted out in a way that raises suspicions about the intentions of the protesters and often their level of organization.
Many of them are the kind of thing you see on social media — using inference and innuendo to raise suspicions about adversaries. In these cases, though, they are promoted by police, whose job it is to carry out the law and not jump to conclusions about criminality.
“We are living in a toxic time: One that relies increasingly on the selective use of a combination of things: some facts, misinformation, rumor, false conclusions that can be drawn from all of them, sometimes spill over into social media or mainstream media,” he said.
Based on the number of cops and the fact the already had their assault rifles out before they approached makes me assume they were responding to a call about a violent crime. In which case, assuming he just stabbed or shotn someone or armed robbery or something, their approach seems justified. Doesn’t matter if he’s homeless or mentally ill at that point if he’s already put lives at risk. But like I said before, I don’t know and am just speculating. If that wasn’t the case then their reaction was pretty ridiculous.
Good point. To show up with rifles drawn like that suggests that they were responding to something serious. But like you said, if they weren't, then it's pretty ridiculous.
Based on the number of cops and the fact the already had their assault rifles out before they approached makes me assume they were responding to a call about a violent crime. In which case, assuming he just stabbed or shotn someone or armed robbery or something, their approach seems justified. Doesn’t matter if he’s homeless or mentally ill at that point if he’s already put lives at risk. But like I said before, I don’t know and am just speculating. If that wasn’t the case then their reaction was pretty ridiculous.
Good point. To show up with rifles drawn like that suggests that they were responding to something serious. But like you said, if they weren't, then it's pretty ridiculous.
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Saturday Night Live alum Jay Pharoah says LA police kneeled on his neck
Comedian shares video and says he was exercising when four officers approached him with guns drawn
The comedian Jay Pharoah says he was recently stopped and handcuffed by Los Angeles police, with one officer kneeling on his neck in a restraint similar to the one that ended in George Floyd’s death.
In a video posted to Instagram, the former Saturday Night Live actor said he was exercising in Los Angeles when four officers approached him with guns drawn, handcuffed him and held him to the ground .
Pharoah said the incident took place about a week before Ahmaud Arbery was shot and killed by two white men while jogging in Glynn county, Georgia. He said the officers told him he was held because he fit the description of “a black man in this area, with gray sweatpants on and a gray shirt”.
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You are right... She may get voted out in her next election... that's part of the gig. You know how it works.. yeah!
Im not convinced either way about the officer who fired the gun, waiting for more information to come out. But I don’t get what the other did wrong? They were attempting to arrest him for a DUI when he assaulted both officers and ran away with one of their tasers before firing it at one of the cops. What did the other that didn’t fire do wrong in this case?
Hampton 2016
Bastards...
He declined and off I went in cuffs to the station. Only time I was ever in cuffs.
Yes it cost me $200 to get the car out the NEXT DAY.
I was pissed because I always had a 2 beer limit for driving. Anymore and I call a cab.
Anywho, that's my story.
Hadn't seen but the final 2-3 minutes...just watched the entire 43 minutes...didn't realize he was so drunk he had no idea where he was..Fuck that guy..let him rot in jail..ooops
Hampton 2016
Hampton 2016
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Now does reaching towards his pants justify shooting him? I don’t know, if They were called out because he was threatening people with a gun and just shot someone then yes. If he was just a homeless bothering people then no. But I’ve lived in high homeless populations before and never once seen police respond to a nuisance call like that.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
But like I said before, I don’t know and am just speculating. If that wasn’t the case then their reaction was pretty ridiculous.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Police keep using Twitter for misinformation and rumor-mongering about protesters
Late Monday night, two New York City police unions took to Twitter to accuse Shake Shack employees of trying to poison police officers with beverages they were served.
The New York City Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association said the officers had come “under attack."
The New York City Detectives’ Endowment Association went a step further, claiming their “fellow officers were intentionally poisoned by one or more workers."
Neither of these tweets, it turns out, were accurate. New York Police Department Chief of Detectives Rodney Harrison said Tuesday morning that a “thorough investigation” had revealed no criminal act.
The Detectives’ Endowment Association now acknowledges it was “evidently” an accident. Its tweet, which had been retweeted more than 12,000 times, has now been deleted.
What is so remarkable about this flap is the language used. Rather than note that the officers’ beverages had toxic substances in them and calling for an investigation, both unions immediately alleged it was a deliberate attack. Groups whose job it is to carry out the law jumped straight to criminal wrongdoing, not allowing for it to be an accident or any other explanation.
Increasingly, in recent weeks, this is the story of how some police departments and organizations have handled the protests and other unrest over the May 25 killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis and others at the hands of police officers. Often using their official Twitter accounts, they have tweeted allegations without substantiation when other, less-nefarious explanations are just as plausible — and, in some cases, have turned out to actually be the case.
The Columbus, Ohio, police department on June 1 tweeted an image of a colorful bus in which it said it found “bats, rocks, meat cleavers, axes, clubs & other projectiles.” It said “there was a suspicion of supplying riot equipment to rioters.”
Mayor Andrew Ginther (D) later suggested the bus showed the violence was worse than the arrest numbers indicated. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) also tweeted sarcastically: “But I guess still ‘no evidence’ of an organized effort to inject violence & anarchy into the protests right?”
Reporting since then indicates the bus was, in fact, used by traveling street performers. The clubs were juggling clubs, according to those familiar with the bus. The hatchet was next to a wood-burning stove the bus used. The meat cleaver was from a knife block used to prepare meals. The rocks were crystals and fossils.
The Columbus police have said the investigation is ongoing, but there are very logical explanations for all the items found on the bus. Yet it was held up by police and the mayor as evidence of something nefarious.
The Spokane, Wash., Police Department on June 7 tweeted that it had seized a “bucket of rocks staged downtown” to prevent it from being used for violence.
The tweet has not been taken down.
The Seattle Police Department on June 6 tweeted that protesters had thrown “improvised explosives” at officers.
The images accompanying the claim, though, appeared to show regular candles accompanied by glass. While potentially dangerous, it is not clear what the explosive was. As The Washington Post reported:
The Kansas City Police Department tweeted May 31 that they had “discovered stashes of bricks and rocks in & around the Plaza and Westport to be used during a riot.”
Kansas City Police Capt. David Jackson scaled that back somewhat, though, when he told reporters, “I sense that they’re probably there for nefarious use.”
BuzzFeed News has reported that reports of bricks being left for protesters across the country — most of them spread on social media but not originating with police — often had logical explanations, including that they had been there before the protests and/or were linked to construction. Jackson said there was no construction in the area.
The White House at one point tweeted and then deleted a video that alleged, “Antifa and professional anarchists are invading our communities, staging bricks and weapons to instigate violence. These are acts of domestic terror.” This claim got four Pinocchios from The Post’s Fact Checker.
While it is possible some of these bricks could have been left for nefarious purposes, as BuzzFeed noted, Kansas City police claimed without offering evidence that they were deliberately left for rioting. Jackson’s comments suggested whatever evidence existed was not definitive.
New York City Police Commissioner Dermot Shea tweeted a similar allegation on June 3.
“This is what our cops are up against: Organized looters, strategically placing caches of bricks & rocks at locations throughout NYC,” Shea said.
As Vice News reported, though, there was no unrest in the area, and others pointed to construction in the neighborhood:
Shea has also tweeted unfounded allegations about protesters using concrete mixed in ice cream containers.
“Anyone with information please call” police, he tweeted June 8, appending a New York Post headline that said, “NYPD finds concrete disguised as ice cream at George Floyd protests.”
As many soon pointed out, mixing concrete in such containers is a common method of testing mixtures on construction sites. The markings on the containers even appeared to indicate what mixtures each had.
Shea at another point tweeted pictures of tools allegedly seized from people arrested in protests in the Bronx. The four pictures he tweeted appeared to show the same tools from different angles.
Some of these allegations could turn out to be substantiated. But many of them have not or seemed to inflate the danger actually posed. In each case, a criminal suggestion was tweeted out in a way that raises suspicions about the intentions of the protesters and often their level of organization.
Many of them are the kind of thing you see on social media — using inference and innuendo to raise suspicions about adversaries. In these cases, though, they are promoted by police, whose job it is to carry out the law and not jump to conclusions about criminality.
Shea himself recently warned against such rumor-mongering.
“We are living in a toxic time: One that relies increasingly on the selective use of a combination of things: some facts, misinformation, rumor, false conclusions that can be drawn from all of them, sometimes spill over into social media or mainstream media,” he said.
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There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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