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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    No,I'm in the Northend,Jup/teq area.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    rr165892 said:

    No,I'm in the Northend,Jup/teq area.

    I lived in Lake Worth.. sounds similar. Lots of bike lanes added here too. Also, we had a major problem with Guatemalans lined up on busy streets, running out to cars to try to get work. a few years ago, If you drove a pickup truck down Lake Avenue and stopped for just a moment, they would literally jump in the back of your truck. It was insane. But the city organized a work pickup area and a center to help them find steady work I think. Things seem to have gotten better there. But the crime in the area is still crazy.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Yeah, we as a county do a pretty good job with helping out those in need.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    JonnyPistachio said:

    rr165892 said:

    No,I'm in the Northend,Jup/teq area.

    I lived in Lake Worth.. sounds similar. Lots of bike lanes added here too. Also, we had a major problem with Guatemalans lined up on busy streets, running out to cars to try to get work. a few years ago, If you drove a pickup truck down Lake Avenue and stopped for just a moment, they would literally jump in the back of your truck. It was insane. But the city organized a work pickup area and a center to help them find steady work I think. Things seem to have gotten better there. But the crime in the area is still crazy.
    When I first moved to San Diego, I stopped at a gas station near a Home Depot to fill my tires with air when a stampede of people started charging towards my like I had the last Twinkie on earth. I had no idea what the hell was going on and was kind of freaked out until I realized they thought I was stopping and looking for workers.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    We don't have alot of street level crime up here mostly home robberies,car thefts and run of the mill domestic stuff.Down Northlake and south it starts getting real bad.I thought LW was descent when it came to crime?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    let's see what happens when nobama is pubilcly asked to step up to this problem....

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/21/politics/perry-national-guard-border/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    Godfather.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Godfather. said:

    let's see what happens when nobama is pubilcly asked to step up to this problem....

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/21/politics/perry-national-guard-border/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    Godfather.

    Perry's playing politics. If he really wanted to do something he'd enforce going after his campaign donors that use illegals in their businesses.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    sooner or later obama will have to do something to stop this,even his supporters are now turning their backs on him over this

    Godfather.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Godfather. said:

    sooner or later obama will have to do something to stop this,even his supporters are now turning their backs on him over this

    Godfather.

    This didn't start with Obama and won't end with him. Right does a good job framing the issue, have to give them that.

    Will though hurt them in polls so in long run this isn't good strategy.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen said:

    Godfather. said:

    sooner or later obama will have to do something to stop this,even his supporters are now turning their backs on him over this

    Godfather.

    This didn't start with Obama and won't end with him. Right does a good job framing the issue, have to give them that.

    Will though hurt them in polls so in long run this isn't good strategy.
    are we blaming bush again ? this mass crossing has happened on obama's watch to which he has done little to nothing,dosn't look good for him.


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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Funny no different than blaming Obama.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,443
    Godfather. said:

    callen said:

    Godfather. said:

    sooner or later obama will have to do something to stop this,even his supporters are now turning their backs on him over this

    Godfather.

    This didn't start with Obama and won't end with him. Right does a good job framing the issue, have to give them that.

    Will though hurt them in polls so in long run this isn't good strategy.
    are we blaming bush again ? this mass crossing has happened on obama's watch to which he has done little to nothing,dosn't look good for him.


    Godfather.

    he can't do a god damn thing with the republicans blocking him every step of the way. he is not a king, in spite of what you might believe.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,443
    this is not an immigration crisis at all.

    this is a refugee crisis.

    big difference.

    these kids are fleeing a dangerous homeland, and you all want to keep them out.

    you should be ashamed of yourselves.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,805
    just how long do you think it takes to journey by foot and train to cover that kind of distance? How treacherous do you think it is? environment, folks that would do you harm? And yet they still come.

    So please , tell me/us, what would you have him do?
    As it stands now, the law as it relates to kids not from mexico is being followed . Do you want him to NOT follow this law? Hvnt you bitched and complained that in soem instances he hasnt followed a law?
    Stopping people coming across is one thing. What would you have them do with those here now?
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  • josevolution
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    mickeyrat said:

    just how long do you think it takes to journey by foot and train to cover that kind of distance? How treacherous do you think it is? environment, folks that would do you harm? And yet they still come.

    So please , tell me/us, what would you have him do?
    As it stands now, the law as it relates to kids not from mexico is being followed . Do you want him to NOT follow this law? Hvnt you bitched and complained that in soem instances he hasnt followed a law?
    Stopping people coming across is one thing. What would you have them do with those here now?

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    this is not an immigration crisis at all.

    this is a refugee crisis.

    big difference.

    these kids are fleeing a dangerous homeland, and you all want to keep them out.

    you should be ashamed of yourselves.

    serious question, how is this a refugee situation ?

    Godfather.

  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Have to say appears some are overplaying the "children are fleeing persecution" angle. Sure there may be some but mostly it's opportunity as perceived by their parents that their kids being able to enter the us.

    Still doesn't though change fact we have an illegal immigration demand problem internally that is not being addressed.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    it's kind of crazy that all the sudden we get flooded with kids that are supposed be fleeing danger, I call bullshit on this.

    Godfather.
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,915
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    this is not an immigration crisis at all.

    this is a refugee crisis.

    big difference.

    these kids are fleeing a dangerous homeland, and you all want to keep them out.

    you should be ashamed of yourselves.

    Completely understand that these kids from dangerous countries. But at the same time, why should this turn into the U.S.'s problem and cost taxpayers billions of dollars? It's harsh, but life isn't fair. Some people are dealt a shitty hand. Should the U.S. just welcome in anyone who comes from a poor or dangerous country with open arms? Where do you draw the line?
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Indifference71 said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    this is not an immigration crisis at all.

    this is a refugee crisis.

    big difference.

    these kids are fleeing a dangerous homeland, and you all want to keep them out.

    you should be ashamed of yourselves.

    Completely understand that these kids from dangerous countries. But at the same time, why should this turn into the U.S.'s problem and cost taxpayers billions of dollars? It's harsh, but life isn't fair. Some people are dealt a shitty hand. Should the U.S. just welcome in anyone who comes from a poor or dangerous country with open arms? Where do you draw the line?
    This is the mentality that fuels the fire for more active border operations: It's harsh, but life isn't fair. Some people are dealt a shitty hand.

    Just as long as its not you, eh?

    Let me draw a parallel: What about the person afflicted with cancer? That person eats up waaaay more medical costs than I do. Why should we have to subsidize his/her costs? Life's not fair. Just die already.

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