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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,846
    lotsalemon said:

    josevolution said:



    They are the one's who set up GA they should be the one's enforcing the rules at the shows in other words someone from 10C be there at the GA LINE MAKING SURE THIS SHIT DOESN'T HAPPEN ....and where you been living under a rock PJ has not had GA HERE IN THE STATES AT ALL BEFORE LAST FALL >>>>

    10C sets up GA? Or they just offer members of the fanclub tickets to GA?

    I won't address the living under a rock part. Read my question, I don't mention NA at all.



    Yes the band determines how they want to have the seating set up the venue ....ok you only meant EUROPE i apologize about smart ass comment ....

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  • Empty Glass
    Empty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    I'll solve this...you are either in line or you are not. You have to pee, tell your ticket buddy and two other people. Get back in in 5 minutes (we'll give 15 if you have to #2).

    There is no food trips. Brown bag it. Drinks? Cheap cooler, pack it.

    Your feet hurt? Tough shit, survival of the fittest. Go rest your feet and get in the back of the line.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    PJ_Soul said:

    drlovemonkey said:

    djklambake said:

    I'm built for comfort, I ain't built for speed.

    Y'all can have your rail and wait in line all day, braving the elements and superfans with acoustic guitars.

    I'm kicking back with dinner and drinks before the show, and then I'm gonna saunter over to the merch bus, buy me some stuff, take it all somewhere that I don't have to carry it the whole show, grab some more beers and find my way in.

    It's amazing how close you can get when you still show up nine hours after the first people got in line. Half drunk, belly full, bladder empty, merch procured, high fives aplenty.

    This guy's got it right!

    Definitely!
    Wait in the hot sun or freezing cold for 14 hours to get a few feet closer to the stage? Ummm, no, I'm good. :P
    The only justification I can see in doing this is if you are a fucking OOmpa Loompa and 3 ft is everything.
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  • DukeSpirit
    DukeSpirit Posts: 278
    This is pretty ridiculous. It's a line. You want to be on the rail or close then get there early and wait it out. You want to relax and have a few drinks before the show then you're not gonna make the rail. Why should 10 club get involved. We are grown adults. Kindergarten kids know how a line works.
  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    hey at least you got an awesome show
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  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    You people really need to get a life. Go have some beers
    Sacramento 10-30-00, Bridge School 10-20 and 10-21-01, Bridge School 10-25 and 10-26-01, Irvine 06-02-03, Irvine 06-03-03, San Diego 06-05-03, San Diego 07-07-06, Los Angeles 07-09-06, Santa Barbara 07-13-06, London UK 06-18-07, San Diego 10-9-09, San Diego 2013, LA 1 2013
  • LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan
    LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan Posts: 3,417
    What's fair market value for Eddie vedder snot? Did anyone make a poll in lost dogs?
  • DukeSpirit
    DukeSpirit Posts: 278
    stickfig13 said:

    You people really need to get a life. Go have some beers

    Hopefully there's no line at the bar
  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    DukeSpirit said:

    stickfig13 said:

    You people really need to get a life. Go have some beers

    Hopefully there's no line at the bar
    I'm serious. It's the same line of weirdos at every damn show. How many times can you have Eddie sweat on you before you realize the show is just as good from 10 feet away.
    Sacramento 10-30-00, Bridge School 10-20 and 10-21-01, Bridge School 10-25 and 10-26-01, Irvine 06-02-03, Irvine 06-03-03, San Diego 06-05-03, San Diego 07-07-06, Los Angeles 07-09-06, Santa Barbara 07-13-06, London UK 06-18-07, San Diego 10-9-09, San Diego 2013, LA 1 2013
  • AY268609
    AY268609 Posts: 11
    San Fran 2006 worked pretty well for the first GA shows in a few years, no list, most people waited at the venue, there were a few times one person was "holding spots" for 6 people or so, but for the most part everyone was well behaved and put their time in line.
    8 years later, not so much by the sound of it.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,780
    edited June 2014
    josevolution said:

    lotsalemon said:


    How did 10C create any mess?

    All they do is provide tickets for the shows. The band determines how the stage is set up as far as I know; whether or not there is a GA section, etc.

    Did this list thing ever occur in the past? Has PJ never had a GA stage setup before this last tour?

    It's the fans' responsibility to be respectful of each other. 10C doesn't hold that responsibility.

    They are the one's who set up GA they should be the one's enforcing the rules at the shows in other words someone from 10C be there at the GA LINE MAKING SURE THIS SHIT DOESN'T HAPPEN ....and where you been living under a rock PJ has not had GA HERE IN THE STATES AT ALL BEFORE LAST FALL >>>>
    There really isn't anything to be getting mad at 10C for. Yes, it would be nice if they started enforcing some order in the GA line. Or at least asked security to make sure there is no list and it's first come first serve. But I certainly don't see it as 10c's obligation to help us get a handle on it (clearly they are giving us more credit than we deserve!). BTW, PJ had GA for years in North America. They stopped GA for the most part after the disaster in 2000. But now they have brought it back now that their fans are calmer and they obviously feel confident that we can keep the pit safe again, which is great!!! Anyway, they are old hacks at dealing with GA. It's not new. What's new are the fuckers who started doing this list thing, which actually has nothing going to do with 10C.

    The only folks you should be mad at are the fuckers who make up their own scummy rules in the GA line.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,780
    edited June 2014
    stickfig13 said:

    DukeSpirit said:

    stickfig13 said:

    You people really need to get a life. Go have some beers

    Hopefully there's no line at the bar
    I'm serious. It's the same line of weirdos at every damn show. How many times can you have Eddie sweat on you before you realize the show is just as good from 10 feet away.
    Agreed. A lot of the people who are on the rail every show (aka the list people) come off as stalkers almost. They're weird (and assholes).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,146
    stickfig13 said:

    DukeSpirit said:

    stickfig13 said:

    You people really need to get a life. Go have some beers

    Hopefully there's no line at the bar
    I'm serious. It's the same line of weirdos at every damn show. How many times can you have Eddie sweat on you before you realize the show is just as good from 10 feet away.
    Total agree. These people are borderline stalkers IMO.

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,146
    PJ_Soul said:

    stickfig13 said:

    DukeSpirit said:

    stickfig13 said:

    You people really need to get a life. Go have some beers

    Hopefully there's no line at the bar
    I'm serious. It's the same line of weirdos at every damn show. How many times can you have Eddie sweat on you before you realize the show is just as good from 10 feet away.
    Agreed. A lot of the people who are on the rail every show (aka the list people) come off as stalkers almost. They're weird (and assholes).
    Just read your post after I wrote mine....great minds think alike. ;)

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    PJ_Soul said:

    stickfig13 said:

    DukeSpirit said:

    stickfig13 said:

    You people really need to get a life. Go have some beers

    Hopefully there's no line at the bar
    I'm serious. It's the same line of weirdos at every damn show. How many times can you have Eddie sweat on you before you realize the show is just as good from 10 feet away.
    Agreed. A lot of the people who are on the rail every show (aka the list people) come off as stalkers almost. They're weird (and assholes).
    This has to be real exciting for the band. "Oh hey, it's you AGAIN. Didn't I see you on the rail the last 5 shows? Well, I can only throw these guitar picks so far. Here you go, have another one."
    D-bags.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,830
    I love the irony........some people assumed the band was sick of seeing the same people in the front row every night when the floor seats were reserved.....now the band is getting sick of seeing the same people ( though not the ones who had front row reserved seats ) on the rail every night!
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,886
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  • YLed2
    YLed2 Posts: 5,534
    It absolutely blew my mind to see people standing in line for GA in Seattle last year starting at like 11:00 the night before the show. You're in one of the coolest and beautiful cities in the world, and you're standing in the freezing cold with your head down looking at concrete - only to be a complete zombie for the show.

    Anything to be on the rail and be showered in EV snot and sweat. And the list thing is another animal. Bunch of fans who feel entitled and think they're special in the PJ fandom. Some people would literally rather be that close than be at the show at all.

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  • JV130312
    JV130312 STATE OF LOVE & TRUST Posts: 2,525
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Having numbers on your hands can sort of have a purpose if people try to cut in I guess.

    But the list is so abused it's crazy.

    In Amsterdam a bunch of people we're home sleeping but number 1-10 just because they came the night before and had the "night shift" or whatever they call it.

    People had numbers on their hands at Auschwitz. Worked out just about as well as the idea of a list has...

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  • melissachun
    melissachun Posts: 107
    lotsalemon said:


    It's the fans' responsibility to be respectful of each other. 10C doesn't hold that responsibility.

    To me, this is the gist. PJ and 10c have done their best to create a system that gives the true fans an advantage - the best seats and low fees - only to have the fans then turn around and screw each other. I'm sure this is NOT what they had in mind. It's not up to them to police how we treat our fellow fans. And the truth is, the only reason the list-makers and sharpie-freaks have any power is because "we" give it to them. Like the title of the thread reads "This has to stop" and now is the time.

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