I don't see anywhere in his statement where he said suck it up. His advice is right. Stop worrying about what everyone else is doing and concentrate on creating your own good time.
Self entitled people will always find a way to turn any situation into their advantage. That will never change, and they will never believe its wrong.
So instead of worrying about something that will never be fixed just relax and enjoy the experience.
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Some dude was giving me aggro last night cos I was near the front but didn't have a number and he did. It's GA, that means you can stand where you like. I didn't push my way through at all. This was 2 and a half hours before the band came on. I moved back in the end, though I didn't want too or feel that I should. Anyway turns out this guy bailed from the front 3 songs in last night.
It's a ridiculous made up system and I've never seen it for other bands. These people running the lists are clearly ego-maniacs. And you won't see them in here, cos they are too busy queuing for the next gig....
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I've been to Milan, Trieste and Vienna and have first hand informaiton about the lists. The way the system "works" is: you pick up a number which gets written on your hand and then you have to attends check-calls. An hour before the doors open people (more or less) align accordingly to the number. Then they enter the venue and pick their spot, sit down and wait. Some people then push through a bit, but generally the best numbers are the first rows. I saw an individual with number 280+ get into the second row by erasing the last number (to became # 28) and shouting "going back to my spot, let me through". He was smart and avoided the spot where the "real" 28 was standing.
Personally I feel that this queueing thing has blown out of proportions. People queue even 2 days before the show which in my mind is invalid and a little crazy (esp. as with arriving around noon or early afternoon on the day of the show you can still get row 3-5). The question is whether this means that I can be in the city a week before and start a list? But OK, I don't want to be judgemental - if this is how they roll.... The problem is that I saw people with best numbers the night before the show in the Trieste city centre square sightseeing and then going to the fans meeting point. People who have lower numbers also know eachother (they are friends or from the same country) so I guess they cover for eachother. In Trieste when they called numbers the list runner often skiped numbers of people he knew, which I found a little bit shady. Few people were crossed out if they weren't there but when there was a final line-up people just don't check anymore if the number was crossed out before - since the first numbers are already neatly in the beginnig of the line so I guess they don't care anymore. They have gotten what they wanted. The problem I see here is that some (not all) people just pick up numbers and left the venue and still get their spot. I am afraid that if this goes further out of proportions that PJ will go USA style in GA - which is seating and which I really don't wnat to happen.
What could be a better way? Better people. The list that is run by staff? Lottery? Numbers in the envelopes when you pick up your 10C tickets? No list at all - first come first serve the old fashion way - if you leave you're out? I don't know. What I do know is that we should be discussing the music and the fantastic shows and not such a banal and superficial thing as queuing.
Sincerely yours: # 82, 167 and 234 (and yes I wouldn't mind being #1 once)
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Amazing how NONE of them have come forward and defended their practices of this list. Hmmmmm, they must know that they're def wrong in this matter and dnt want to show their faces around here. They MOST DEF know there are threads going around about their list. We'd all love for them to come speak out instead of hiding like cowards. So come on people, show us "who you are".....
I've been to Milan, Trieste and Vienna and have first hand informaiton about the lists. The way the system "works" is: you pick up a number which gets written on your hand and then you have to attends check-calls. An hour before the doors open people (more or less) align accordingly to the number. Then they enter the venue and pick their spot, sit down and wait. Some people then push through a bit, but generally the best numbers are the first rows. I saw an individual with number 280+ get into the second row by erasing the last number (to became # 28) and shouting "going back to my spot, let me through". He was smart and avoided the spot where the "real" 28 was standing.
Personally I feel that this queueing thing has blown out of proportions. People queue even 2 days before the show which in my mind is invalid and a little crazy (esp. as with arriving around noon or early afternoon on the day of the show you can still get row 3-5). The question is whether this means that I can be in the city a week before and start a list? But OK, I don't want to be judgemental - if this is how they roll.... The problem is that I saw people with best numbers the night before the show in the Trieste city centre square sightseeing and then going to the fans meeting point. People who have lower numbers also know eachother (they are friends or from the same country) so I guess they cover for eachother. In Trieste when they called numbers the list runner often skiped numbers of people he knew, which I found a little bit shady. Few people were crossed out if they weren't there but when there was a final line-up people just don't check anymore if the number was crossed out before - since the first numbers are already neatly in the beginnig of the line so I guess they don't care anymore. They have gotten what they wanted. The problem I see here is that some (not all) people just pick up numbers and left the venue and still get their spot. I am afraid that if this goes further out of proportions that PJ will go USA style in GA - which is seating and which I really don't wnat to happen. The list runners if it matters: Milan - Davide Vendemia; in Trieste an Italian guy that goes by the nickname Mega Dave; the list runner in Vienna was an older English native speaker guy with a long grey beard. What could be a better way? That the list is run by staff? Lottery? Numbers in the envelopes when you pick up your 10C tickets? No list at all - first come first serve the old fashion way - if you leave you're out? I don't know. What I do know is that we should be discussing the music and the fantastic shows and not such a banal and superficial thing as queuing.
Sincerely yours: # 82, 167 and 234
You said a " A little bit shady " ) it's a fucking scam
Personally, i think the whole thing is stupid. We are fucking ADULTS here, people. Do we REALLY need hourly bed checks to wait in a fucking line? You know who understands lines? Little kids. Little kids stand in line. They get it that you are supposed to stand behind th last person and the next person stands behind you. When you get outside to the playground, you run over to the baseball diamond to play kick ball. Little kids know it is wrong to cut in line and they know the only people who do that are the fucking asshole kids... who grow up to become asshole adults that think they deserve everything they desire and have no time to deal with the rest of us 'Grey People'. Why is it that we ADULTS cannot figure out what little kids completely understand? If the concept of lines to too complex for your mind to figure out how it works, so you devise complicated systems of rules, marker numbers, hourly bed checks and list Nazis and their conspirators... go down to the elementary school and ask some 2nd grader how lines work.
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... I know... Seriously... bed checks? Really? Are we 6 years old? And you know what happens... the person 'excuses' the people they know from being there and will only cross out your name because you don't matter to them. Again, people... let's cut the childish crap and operate like we are fucking adults already.
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A bit off topic... a couple of years ago, 'The Arcade Fire' had a gig at a liitle place in Los Angeles. You could only get tickets from the local Record Stores... First Come, First Served. People advertised 'Places in line'. Really... people got in the line outside the Fingerprints in Long Beach and created ads on Craigs List. People were scalping places in line. Of couse, good ol' Fingerprints caught wind of this and kicked the people out of the line.
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A bit off topic... a couple of years ago, 'The Arcade Fire' had a gig at a liitle place in Los Angeles. You could only get tickets from the local Record Stores... First Come, First Served. People advertised 'Places in line'. Really... people got in the line outside the Fingerprints in Long Beach and created ads on Craigs List. People were scalping places in line. Of couse, good ol' Fingerprints caught wind of this and kicked the people out of the line.
The "I have to be on the rail" people are the absolute worst. And this list bullshit has got to stop. I hope some young, aggresive buck causes a bunch of chaos when he gets told that he has to let 60 people in front of him because they are on a list and he's not. Seriously. Are there people on the board here, or in the FB group that are actually defending it? Sorry, I haven't read through this whole thread.
The majority behave. A few don't. So we want to bring back stalre lifeless seated shows as a result ?
People have queued for years but because a few people don't like numbers or a few people can't follow a simple set of rules and take the piss - we should do away with an age old tradition ? We've never had seats in Europe - so why would the band bring them in now? The band are getting electric audiences and they are thriving off it.
If people want the lottery then maybe numbers could be randomly with tickets but what about the people who do wish to put the time in and queue all day ? They get screwed because a dude joined the fan club earlier ?
I think it's perfectly feasible for the band and tenclub to expect a group of adults to organize themselves properly.
At the end of the day the important numbers are 1-50 - the rail is the key. So people arguing about numbers after that really are arguing over nothing,
I do think the disappearing for hours to sleep sucks don't get me wrong.
One question that I cant wrap my head around is how are these elitist fans going to 25-30 shows every tour? How in the hell can they afford it? Traveling and tickets and time off from work and family for every show... what! The money to follow this band to almost every show would be crazy. And how do they continue to get great tickets when so many people get shut out for their one hometown show on a tour? Something is just off about this as well. It reminds me of that story where rich New Yorkers were hiring disabled children to stand inline at Disney World so their child could get on the ride faster. Messed up.
Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked... in the head... with an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does. It never happens. Sorry, Ted, that's a dumb question... skip that.
The "I have to be on the rail" people are the absolute worst. And this list bullshit has got to stop. I hope some young, aggresive buck causes a bunch of chaos when he gets told that he has to let 60 people in front of him because they are on a list and he's not. Seriously. Are there people on the board here, or in the FB group that are actually defending it? Sorry, I haven't read through this whole thread.
... You know, I don't HAVE to be on the rail... but, it sure is nice being up there so I will shoot for it whenever I get a chance. And i know, that if I want a shot at that spot... i need to pass on a little comfort. I need to spend the day on the sidewalk. It is the people who think they can put their name ona bullshit pice of paper and run off an do whatever they please and somehow that name on the piece of paper is the same as sitting on the sidewalk. It's not. If people want a spot on the railing... they need to do what everyone else has to forfeit to get it. That's all. ... P.S. I don't want to see chaos at a concert. That's why I never go to RAP Concerts.
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if I ever decide on getting a bunch of digital memberships requisite to getting GA tickets, I would absolutely try to show up very early and stay there in order to get/secure a great spot (never had the opportunity). However, all this bullshit and selfish people scamming would make it too much a struggle and it would be stressful.
One question that I cant wrap my head around is how are these elitist fans going to 25-30 shows every tour? How in the hell can they afford it? Traveling and tickets and time off from work and family for every show... what! The money to follow this band to almost every show would be crazy. And how do they continue to get great tickets when so many people get shut out for their one hometown show on a tour? Something is just off about this as well. It reminds me of that story where rich New Yorkers were hiring disabled children to stand inline at Disney World so their child could get on the ride faster. Messed up.
... I know people who travel all over for Pearl Jam. They compile a lot of air miles to reduce air fare and know people who let them crash at their place. I let my friends from out of town crash at my pad and I drive to the gigs. BUT... the people I know spent the day in line with me. They don't go off to Disneyland... they are there on the sidewalk with the rest of the people who don't feel priviledged. If we have seats for the gig... then, we go to Disneyland. ... Also, they go to a few gigs... a lot more than me... but, not 25 to 30.
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It was a story that went nationwide last year about rich New Yorkers using disabled children to move up in long lines at Disney World. Disney had to change their policies because of the story. I have attached the link for the story.
Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked... in the head... with an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does. It never happens. Sorry, Ted, that's a dumb question... skip that.
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It was a story that went nationwide last year about rich New Yorkers using disabled children to move up in long lines at Disney World. Disney had to change their policies because of the story. I have attached the link for the story.
... You know how handicapped people get to go to the front of the lines to get on the rides at Disneyland? Well, these rich people from New York would 'Hire' a handicapped person to get them to the fron to the lines so their priviledged kids could get on. They said they were doing 'Charity Work' by hiring the handicapped... when they were really, using the wheel chairs to skip past all of us people who really don't matter. ... It would be like me... paying a homeless guy to stand in line for me while I go out and get drunk at the pre-party. Hey... i'm helping the homeless, here.
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Someone should just make some fliers with basic information about this unsanctioned "list' and how it is just fans manipulating other fans. Hand them out at any point before the show....take one pass it down!
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... You know how handicapped people get to go to the front of the lines to get on the rides at Disneyland? Well, these rich people from New York would 'Hire' a handicapped person to get them to the fron to the lines so their priviledged kids could get on. They said they were doing 'Charity Work' by hiring the handicapped... when they were really, using the wheel chairs to skip past all of us people who really don't matter. ... It would be like me... paying a homeless guy to stand in line for me while I go out and get drunk at the pre-party. Hey... i'm helping the homeless, here.
If someone actually does that now, it's your fault! And this place would explode. )
I don't see anywhere in his statement where he said suck it up. His advice is right. Stop worrying about what everyone else is doing and concentrate on creating your own good time.
Self entitled people will always find a way to turn any situation into their advantage. That will never change, and they will never believe its wrong.
So instead of worrying about something that will never be fixed just relax and enjoy the experience.
I think that is saying suck it up too. But to me that just spells apathy, which continues to allow others to abuse a system to the disadvantage of others. I'm glad many people don't always just say "whatever". If everyone did that then nothing would ever change for the better. I see this whole situation as an injustice. Sure, it's a very minor injustice in the scheme of things, but an injustice nevertheless. It's my view that all injustices should be confronted and, hopefully, eliminated. I hope people start standing up to these jackasses. Or that 10C comes up with some simple way to disallow the list. It would be simple. Not sure why you think this is something that will never be fixed. It would actually be very easy to fix it, if someone would only do it.
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Self entitled people will always find a way to turn any situation into their advantage. That will never change, and they will never believe its wrong.
So instead of worrying about something that will never be fixed just relax and enjoy the experience.
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It's a ridiculous made up system and I've never seen it for other bands. These people running the lists are clearly ego-maniacs. And you won't see them in here, cos they are too busy queuing for the next gig....
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Personally I feel that this queueing thing has blown out of proportions. People queue even 2 days before the show which in my mind is invalid and a little crazy (esp. as with arriving around noon or early afternoon on the day of the show you can still get row 3-5). The question is whether this means that I can be in the city a week before and start a list? But OK, I don't want to be judgemental - if this is how they roll.... The problem is that I saw people with best numbers the night before the show in the Trieste city centre square sightseeing and then going to the fans meeting point. People who have lower numbers also know eachother (they are friends or from the same country) so I guess they cover for eachother. In Trieste when they called numbers the list runner often skiped numbers of people he knew, which I found a little bit shady. Few people were crossed out if they weren't there but when there was a final line-up people just don't check anymore if the number was crossed out before - since the first numbers are already neatly in the beginnig of the line so I guess they don't care anymore. They have gotten what they wanted. The problem I see here is that some (not all) people just pick up numbers and left the venue and still get their spot. I am afraid that if this goes further out of proportions that PJ will go USA style in GA - which is seating and which I really don't wnat to happen.
What could be a better way? Better people. The list that is run by staff? Lottery? Numbers in the envelopes when you pick up your 10C tickets? No list at all - first come first serve the old fashion way - if you leave you're out?
I don't know.
What I do know is that we should be discussing the music and the fantastic shows and not such a banal and superficial thing as queuing.
Sincerely yours:
# 82, 167 and 234
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Personally I feel that this queueing thing has blown out of proportions. People queue even 2 days before the show which in my mind is invalid and a little crazy (esp. as with arriving around noon or early afternoon on the day of the show you can still get row 3-5). The question is whether this means that I can be in the city a week before and start a list? But OK, I don't want to be judgemental - if this is how they roll.... The problem is that I saw people with best numbers the night before the show in the Trieste city centre square sightseeing and then going to the fans meeting point. People who have lower numbers also know eachother (they are friends or from the same country) so I guess they cover for eachother. In Trieste when they called numbers the list runner often skiped numbers of people he knew, which I found a little bit shady. Few people were crossed out if they weren't there but when there was a final line-up people just don't check anymore if the number was crossed out before - since the first numbers are already neatly in the beginnig of the line so I guess they don't care anymore. They have gotten what they wanted. The problem I see here is that some (not all) people just pick up numbers and left the venue and still get their spot. I am afraid that if this goes further out of proportions that PJ will go USA style in GA - which is seating and which I really don't wnat to happen.
The list runners if it matters: Milan - Davide Vendemia; in Trieste an Italian guy that goes by the nickname Mega Dave; the list runner in Vienna was an older English native speaker guy with a long grey beard.
What could be a better way? That the list is run by staff? Lottery? Numbers in the envelopes when you pick up your 10C tickets? No list at all - first come first serve the old fashion way - if you leave you're out?
I don't know. What I do know is that we should be discussing the music and the fantastic shows and not such a banal and superficial thing as queuing.
Sincerely yours:
# 82, 167 and 234
You said a " A little bit shady "
You know who understands lines? Little kids. Little kids stand in line. They get it that you are supposed to stand behind th last person and the next person stands behind you. When you get outside to the playground, you run over to the baseball diamond to play kick ball. Little kids know it is wrong to cut in line and they know the only people who do that are the fucking asshole kids... who grow up to become asshole adults that think they deserve everything they desire and have no time to deal with the rest of us 'Grey People'.
Why is it that we ADULTS cannot figure out what little kids completely understand? If the concept of lines to too complex for your mind to figure out how it works, so you devise complicated systems of rules, marker numbers, hourly bed checks and list Nazis and their conspirators... go down to the elementary school and ask some 2nd grader how lines work.
Hail, Hail!!!
I know... Seriously... bed checks? Really? Are we 6 years old?
And you know what happens... the person 'excuses' the people they know from being there and will only cross out your name because you don't matter to them.
Again, people... let's cut the childish crap and operate like we are fucking adults already.
Hail, Hail!!!
People advertised 'Places in line'. Really... people got in the line outside the Fingerprints in Long Beach and created ads on Craigs List. People were scalping places in line.
Of couse, good ol' Fingerprints caught wind of this and kicked the people out of the line.
Hail, Hail!!!
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Pacer was right on the money here.
The majority behave. A few don't. So we want to bring back stalre lifeless seated shows as a result ?
People have queued for years but because a few people don't like numbers or a few people can't follow a simple set of rules and take the piss - we should do away with an age old tradition ? We've never had seats in Europe - so why would the band bring them in now? The band are getting electric audiences and they are thriving off it.
If people want the lottery then maybe numbers could be randomly with tickets but what about the people who do wish to put the time in and queue all day ? They get screwed because a dude joined the fan club earlier ?
I think it's perfectly feasible for the band and tenclub to expect a group of adults to organize themselves properly.
At the end of the day the important numbers are 1-50 - the rail is the key. So people arguing about numbers after that really are arguing over nothing,
I do think the disappearing for hours to sleep sucks don't get me wrong.
You know, I don't HAVE to be on the rail... but, it sure is nice being up there so I will shoot for it whenever I get a chance.
And i know, that if I want a shot at that spot... i need to pass on a little comfort. I need to spend the day on the sidewalk.
It is the people who think they can put their name ona bullshit pice of paper and run off an do whatever they please and somehow that name on the piece of paper is the same as sitting on the sidewalk. It's not.
If people want a spot on the railing... they need to do what everyone else has to forfeit to get it.
That's all.
...
P.S. I don't want to see chaos at a concert. That's why I never go to RAP Concerts.
Hail, Hail!!!
if I ever decide on getting a bunch of digital memberships requisite to getting GA tickets, I would absolutely try to show up very early and stay there in order to get/secure a great spot (never had the opportunity).
However, all this bullshit and selfish people scamming would make it too much a struggle and it would be stressful.
I know people who travel all over for Pearl Jam. They compile a lot of air miles to reduce air fare and know people who let them crash at their place. I let my friends from out of town crash at my pad and I drive to the gigs.
BUT... the people I know spent the day in line with me. They don't go off to Disneyland... they are there on the sidewalk with the rest of the people who don't feel priviledged.
If we have seats for the gig... then, we go to Disneyland.
...
Also, they go to a few gigs... a lot more than me... but, not 25 to 30.
Hail, Hail!!!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I know. Once you hit the floor... you're off and running and on your own... all things are equal.
...
Feets... don't fail me, now!
Hail, Hail!!!
http://nypost.com/2013/05/14/rich-manhattan-moms-hire-handicapped-tour-guides-so-kids-can-cut-lines-at-disney-world/
You know how handicapped people get to go to the front of the lines to get on the rides at Disneyland?
Well, these rich people from New York would 'Hire' a handicapped person to get them to the fron to the lines so their priviledged kids could get on. They said they were doing 'Charity Work' by hiring the handicapped... when they were really, using the wheel chairs to skip past all of us people who really don't matter.
...
It would be like me... paying a homeless guy to stand in line for me while I go out and get drunk at the pre-party. Hey... i'm helping the homeless, here.
Hail, Hail!!!
Haha
But if I see any of you line and listers in a wheelchair after the show....im gonna say you deserved it!
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Hahahaha
Thats a joke people.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
that's hilarious
then they will be miraculously healed when the doors open.
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2008- Columbia, SC
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2010- Bristow, VA
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