oh boy oh boy, given this guys name it is going to be fucking hysterical to see people spin how to keep guns out of brown terrorists hands but not white terrorists...
I'm missing something here. 'This guys name'? What name?
I wonder how many are going to be disappointed when they find out it's not some group of redneck, toothless, gun toting, good ol' boys who did this?
Whatever group it was... we gotta get 'em.
Did my reference to that idiot touch a nerve? And how do you know it won't be a bunch of yokels? Has it been established who the assailants are?
As of 10:19 est the fbi had not ruled out terrorism. That is very very interesting.
Well for one, it was clearly terrorism, regardless of the race or religion of the shooters
Oh stop. You damn well know what terrorism they are referring too.
How does it make a difference? Does it make it more wrong? Or is it worse murder? Or should we be extra scared?
Pretty sure the political outrage meter will be in hyperdrive but I fail to see the difference.
I mean, sure it wouldn't be a good thing if someone radicalized by Isis did this, but it's not like it's the first time something of the sort happened and its not good regardless of who did it.
oh boy oh boy, given this guys name it is going to be fucking hysterical to see people spin how to keep guns out of brown terrorists hands but not white terrorists...
I'm missing something here. 'This guys name'? What name?
Some are reporting that one of the shooters was a Syed Farook
oh boy oh boy, given this guys name it is going to be fucking hysterical to see people spin how to keep guns out of brown terrorists hands but not white terrorists...
I'm missing something here. 'This guys name'? What name?
There is a name floating around in various reports. Sounds like he may have worked there
Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
If this was done by Islamists will you wish horrible horrible deaths on all of them as well?
On all of who? The gun lobby is directly responsible for thousands of deaths, regardless of the race/religion of these people
Well if your only concern is going after the gun lobby as opposed to the perpetrators and their ideology (whatever that might be) then attacks like these will always continue. As you said "we will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again".
Whats this "we" shit? You dont live in this country.
This "we" shit has zero to do with where we live. Many of us have loved ones who live in your country, so yeah, I'd say that our opinion on the matter is just as relevant as yours.
If this was truly some radical group of muslim fanatics, and then with the fucker last week blowing away the people at the abortion clinic, this country should seriously consider cracking down hard on religious bullshit that gets spewed from the pulpit (regardless of the theology).
Why is it any different than yelling "fire" in a crowded theater? How can any of these groups be allowed to incite violence, yet we have to allow it due to "free speech". Fuck free speech when this is the outcome. You should not be allowed to create an environment with words and ridiculous rantings that brainwash gullable idiots into carrying out their dirty work for them.
If this was truly some radical group of muslim fanatics, and then with the fucker last week blowing away the people at the abortion clinic, this country should seriously consider cracking down hard on religious bullshit that gets spewed from the pulpit (regardless of the theology).
Why is it any different than yelling "fire" in a crowded theater? How can any of these groups be allowed to incite violence, yet we have to allow it due to "free speech". Fuck free speech when this is the outcome. You should not be allowed to create an environment with words and ridiculous rantings that brainwash gullable idiots into carrying out their dirty work for them.
You could just listen to music, watch videos and pretend life is good. Recycle, reduce, re-use. All your problems will be solved. Serenity now.
When America gets off its ass and to the polls, things will change. The complacency of this country makes me sick. And a fucking stage clown bigot is leading political polls. An all time new low.
When America gets off its ass and to the polls, things will change. The complacency of this country makes me sick. And a fucking stage clown bigot is leading political polls. An all time new low.
A RICH fscb is leading the polls.
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Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
You are correct.
So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
That is actually said quite a bit by those on the right.
No actually...it isn't.
No, it isn't. I don't think I have ever seen an anti-abortionist here on the boards say anything like that, and I think only the fringe far-right think that. Yes, they exist, but they're fanaticals. Saying it happens quite a bit on the right is not fair. (But I am thinking maybe Cliffy was just being emotional in reaction to yet another shooting and didn't mean what he said literally)
I'm thinking you are probably correct, that's not to say I don't think they aren't repulsive and horrible human beings.
They are horrible, and complicit.
Ahhh...so now you're ok with the concept of being complicit. Interesting.
Oh? You really want to bring the BDS stuff up here? Still waiting for that evidence
Please don't start that shite up again! Clearly not relevant to this thread
I agree, not relevant at all, someone is trying to make it relevant. One track mind.
Please...you brought up complicity. I am just pointing out your inconsistencies.
I wonder how many are going to be disappointed when they find out it's not some group of redneck, toothless, gun toting, good ol' boys who did this?
Makes no difference who did it. The fact is 14 people will never take another breath because these jerkoffs had access to weapons designed to kill living beings.
If this was truly some radical group of muslim fanatics, and then with the fucker last week blowing away the people at the abortion clinic, this country should seriously consider cracking down hard on religious bullshit that gets spewed from the pulpit (regardless of the theology).
Why is it any different than yelling "fire" in a crowded theater? How can any of these groups be allowed to incite violence, yet we have to allow it due to "free speech". Fuck free speech when this is the outcome. You should not be allowed to create an environment with words and ridiculous rantings that brainwash gullable idiots into carrying out their dirty work for them.
Except "the fucker last week" has not been shown to be religious.
Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
If this was done by Islamists will you wish horrible horrible deaths on all of them as well?
On all of who? The gun lobby is directly responsible for thousands of deaths, regardless of the race/religion of these people
Well if your only concern is going after the gun lobby as opposed to the perpetrators and their ideology (whatever that might be) then attacks like these will always continue. As you said "we will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again".
Whats this "we" shit? You dont live in this country.
What do you want others to know about living in your country? How do you feel about being an American?
>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.
If I had known then what I know now...
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Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
You are correct.
So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
Last time I checked abortion was still legal. And I'm waiting for you BS to make a casual link to this and the BDS movement because one of the victims might happen to be Jewish.
>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.
Are you sure its political? Seems the USA culture is steeped in guns. Up here we aren't averse to guns just we would rather not have them part of our way of life.
Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
You are correct.
So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
Last time I checked abortion was still legal. And I'm waiting for you BS to make a casual link to this and the BDS movement because one of the victims might happen to be Jewish.
Unlike Bataclan it is to early to say why this particular place was targeted by Islamists. Early word is that it was a christmas party of some type but who knows yet. Right now it was an American and a Qatari citizen who are being named as the attackers.
>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.
Do we know if any of the murderers were on a watch list? Why shout when you don't have the facts.
no, dude, I don't.....but is a fact that our politicians are scared to death of the the gun lobby....whose main goal is profit for gun manufacturers....sell anything, to anybody, anytime.
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Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
You are correct.
So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
That is actually said quite a bit by those on the right.
No actually...it isn't.
No, it isn't. I don't think I have ever seen an anti-abortionist here on the boards say anything like that, and I think only the fringe far-right think that. Yes, they exist, but they're fanaticals. Saying it happens quite a bit on the right is not fair. (But I am thinking maybe Cliffy was just being emotional in reaction to yet another shooting and didn't mean what he said literally)
I'm thinking you are probably correct, that's not to say I don't think they aren't repulsive and horrible human beings.
They are horrible, and complicit.
Ahhh...so now you're ok with the concept of being complicit. Interesting.
Oh? You really want to bring the BDS stuff up here? Still waiting for that evidence
Please don't start that shite up again! Clearly not relevant to this thread
I agree, not relevant at all, someone is trying to make it relevant. One track mind.
Please...you brought up complicity. I am just pointing out your inconsistencies.
>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.
Do we know if any of the murderers were on a watch list? Why shout when you don't have the facts.
no, dude, I don't.....but is a fact that our politicians are scared to death of the the gun lobby....whose main goal is profit for gun manufacturers....sell anything, to anybody, anytime.
No. Their goal is to protect the rights of citizens to defend themselves.
Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
If this was done by Islamists will you wish horrible horrible deaths on all of them as well?
On all of who? The gun lobby is directly responsible for thousands of deaths, regardless of the race/religion of these people
Well if your only concern is going after the gun lobby as opposed to the perpetrators and their ideology (whatever that might be) then attacks like these will always continue. As you said "we will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again".
Whats this "we" shit? You dont live in this country.
So one shouldn't be concerned?
Weren't you outspoken for the world's moral responsibility to assist with the Syrian refugee crisis?
You may or may not recall I never interjected with what Canada ought to do. I confined it to the nation I am citizen of and rightly have a say in.
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I wonder how many are going to be disappointed when they find out it's not some group of redneck, toothless, gun toting, good ol' boys who did this?
Makes no difference who did it. The fact is 14 people will never take another breath because these jerkoffs had access to weapons designed to kill living beings.
It is absolutely relevant if you truly want to stop this.
Stop it? There's a huge contingency of people who don't even want to confront it. The US has a serious issue with gun violence and nobody seems truly care. There will be lots of discussion about gun violence and finally a push to profile the shooter so people can distance themselves from them and deny culpability. If they're Muslim they become terrorists; if they're Christian they become 'lone gunmen' separate from the rest of society. It's strange that Muslims are expected to be responsible for their fringe members when they commit atrocities yet the rest of us are allowed to distance ourselves from the nut jobs that we produce.
Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
If this was done by Islamists will you wish horrible horrible deaths on all of them as well?
On all of who? The gun lobby is directly responsible for thousands of deaths, regardless of the race/religion of these people
Well if your only concern is going after the gun lobby as opposed to the perpetrators and their ideology (whatever that might be) then attacks like these will always continue. As you said "we will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again".
Whats this "we" shit? You dont live in this country.
Up here we kind of like to nip things. Kind of like keeping that shit over in the east. Keep that shit south please and deal with it. We don't want it spilling over our friendly border.
Until you force the Biebs back home , all bets are off!!!!!
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Muslim inspired and everything else.
Pretty sure the political outrage meter will be in hyperdrive but I fail to see the difference.
I mean, sure it wouldn't be a good thing if someone radicalized by Isis did this, but it's not like it's the first time something of the sort happened and its not good regardless of who did it.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/authorities-respond-report-shooting-san-bernardino-california-n472976
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Why is it any different than yelling "fire" in a crowded theater? How can any of these groups be allowed to incite violence, yet we have to allow it due to "free speech". Fuck free speech when this is the outcome. You should not be allowed to create an environment with words and ridiculous rantings that brainwash gullable idiots into carrying out their dirty work for them.
Recycle, reduce, re-use.
All your problems will be solved.
Serenity now.
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How do you feel about being an American?
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.
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Seems the USA culture is steeped in guns.
Up here we aren't averse to guns just we would rather not have them part of our way of life.
Or is that a fact?
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