America's Gun Violence

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,338
    mrussel1 said:
    Guns don't  kill people 

    The children of gun owners shoot and or kill people...


    Nothing can be done.
    Lies. You can provide a few thoughts. 
    My thoughts are of Wayne LaPue and bankruptcies.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821

    Six adults were killed early Sunday morning when a suspect opened fire at a birthday party in Colorado Springs
    6 people killed in Colorado birthday party shooting https://www.yahoo.com/gma/6-people-killed-colorado-birthday-202900085.html 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,338

    Six adults were killed early Sunday morning when a suspect opened fire at a birthday party in Colorado Springs
    6 people killed in Colorado birthday party shooting https://www.yahoo.com/gma/6-people-killed-colorado-birthday-202900085.html 
    Nothing can be done. And sure, the children weren’t injured. Maybe they should have been armed too?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821
    edited May 2021
    My Thoughts and Prayers go out to the nra supporters and politicians that will have to spend extra time defending decreasing gun control and increasing getting more guns into American hands because of this mayhem...

     There were at least 9 mass shootings across the US this weekend There were at least 9 mass shootings across the US this weekend https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/us/us-weekend-mass-shootings/index.html
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,564
    Here in NY there seems to be a shooting almost hourly lately. It’s scary. And not even only at night. Broad daylight, innocent bystanders , including a toddler in time square the other day. 
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    My Thoughts and Prayers go out to the nra supporters and politicians that will have to spend extra time defending decreasing gun control and increasing getting more guns into American hands because of this mayhem...

     There were at least 9 mass shootings across the US this weekend There were at least 9 mass shootings across the US this weekend https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/us/us-weekend-mass-shootings/index.html
    nicknyr15 said:
    Here in NY there seems to be a shooting almost hourly lately. It’s scary. And not even only at night. Broad daylight, innocent bystanders , including a toddler in time square the other day. 
    Exceptional.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,338
    400 people shot over the past 72 hours in 'Murica, according to CNN. Clearly, more guns are the answer.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    400 people shot over the past 72 hours in 'Murica, according to CNN. Clearly, more guns are the answer.
    You know what? I’m starting to agree with you. 

    The world could do with less Americans. 

    More guns! More guns!
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    I'm assuming others here have seen the "Nextdoor" app....basically similar to FB but dialed down to include people in your area/neighborhood.

    Someone posted this morning about a guy walking down the road in camo carrying a rifle.  Clearly a hunter but he was within city limits and there is no hunting within city limits.  The reactions were amazing.  It launched into a Dem/GOP 2nd amendment debate immediately.

    Please are so stupid.  We're all going to get shot.
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    It's a simple equation, really.

    More guns=less Americans.

    So if you're pro-gun, you're anti-American.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    edited May 2021
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    I don't understand why police unions are not more vocal about this....I feel like I'm missing something.  Or are the police the militant idiots?
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    edited May 2021
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    I don't understand why police unions are not more vocal about this....I feel like I'm missing something.  Or are the police the militant idiots?
    "Some of those that work forces... "
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    Cops aren't being killed w AR-15's.

    Most mass shootings aren't either.

    It seems to be the one rifle that is very taboo though.  That and the AK.  Everyone knows those names.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,579
    dankind said:
    400 people shot over the past 72 hours in 'Murica, according to CNN. Clearly, more guns are the answer.
    You know what? I’m starting to agree with you. 

    The world could do with less Americans. 

    More guns! More guns!
    Starting to come around to this myself. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    Cops aren't being killed w AR-15's.

    Most mass shootings aren't either.

    It seems to be the one rifle that is very taboo though.  That and the AK.  Everyone knows those names.
    26% of the last 80 shootings were AR-15....not "most" but it is clearly an issue.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    Cops aren't being killed w AR-15's.

    Most mass shootings aren't either.

    It seems to be the one rifle that is very taboo though.  That and the AK.  Everyone knows those names.
    26% of the last 80 shootings were AR-15....not "most" but it is clearly an issue.
    Handguns are by far the most used but again, the AR15 is the one that most people recognize.
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    I don't understand why police unions are not more vocal about this....I feel like I'm missing something.  Or are the police the militant idiots?
    Bingo
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    static111 said:
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    I don't understand why police unions are not more vocal about this....I feel like I'm missing something.  Or are the police the militant idiots?
    Bingo
    I have always been big about putting more funding toward police.  We need more, they need to be smarter, better trained, better paid, compassionate, etc.  Not fucking Rambo wannabes ready to shoot anything that moves.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    this is not the time to talk about this
       -always
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    static111 said:
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    I don't understand why police unions are not more vocal about this....I feel like I'm missing something.  Or are the police the militant idiots?
    Bingo
    I have always been big about putting more funding toward police.  We need more, they need to be smarter, better trained, better paid, compassionate, etc.  Not fucking Rambo wannabes ready to shoot anything that moves.
    The problem is unless you clean house and start from scratch none of that can be achieved because that Rambo/American Warzone culture has taken hold and is deep in the ranks.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    Cops aren't being killed w AR-15's.

    Most mass shootings aren't either.

    It seems to be the one rifle that is very taboo though.  That and the AK.  Everyone knows those names.
    26% of the last 80 shootings were AR-15....not "most" but it is clearly an issue.
    Handguns are by far the most used but again, the AR15 is the one that most people recognize.

    proper Risk Management addresses frequency and severity
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    CM189191 said:
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    Cops aren't being killed w AR-15's.

    Most mass shootings aren't either.

    It seems to be the one rifle that is very taboo though.  That and the AK.  Everyone knows those names.
    26% of the last 80 shootings were AR-15....not "most" but it is clearly an issue.
    Handguns are by far the most used but again, the AR15 is the one that most people recognize.

    proper Risk Management addresses frequency and severity
    Which is a handgun.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    Cops aren't being killed w AR-15's.

    Most mass shootings aren't either.

    It seems to be the one rifle that is very taboo though.  That and the AK.  Everyone knows those names.
    26% of the last 80 shootings were AR-15....not "most" but it is clearly an issue.
    Handguns are by far the most used but again, the AR15 is the one that most people recognize.

    proper Risk Management addresses frequency and severity
    Which is a handgun.

    No, no it's not.

    U.S. Has At Least 20 Million Assault Rifles.
    (or "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges." for you ammosexuals out there)

    By … 2009, the estimated total number of firearms available to civilians in the United States had increased to approximately 310 million: 114 million handguns, 110 million rifles, and 86 million shotguns(36). 

    that means 6.4% of guns are responsible for 26% of mass shootings
    that's high frequency

    Semi-automatic rifles have been used in six of the ten deadliest mass shooting events.
    that's high severity

    /handguns need to be better regulated as well
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    Cops aren't being killed w AR-15's.

    Most mass shootings aren't either.

    It seems to be the one rifle that is very taboo though.  That and the AK.  Everyone knows those names.
    26% of the last 80 shootings were AR-15....not "most" but it is clearly an issue.
    Handguns are by far the most used but again, the AR15 is the one that most people recognize.

    proper Risk Management addresses frequency and severity
    Which is a handgun.

    No, no it's not.

    U.S. Has At Least 20 Million Assault Rifles.
    (or "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges." for you ammosexuals out there)

    By … 2009, the estimated total number of firearms available to civilians in the United States had increased to approximately 310 million: 114 million handguns, 110 million rifles, and 86 million shotguns(36). 

    that means 6.4% of guns are responsible for 26% of mass shootings
    that's high frequency

    Semi-automatic rifles have been used in six of the ten deadliest mass shooting events.
    that's high severity

    /handguns need to be better regulated as well
    OK so I have to ask.  If most gun crimes are caused with a handgun, mass shootings, etc.  How is it not more frequent?

    Total number of firearms to me has zero to do with this so not sure why that is even mentioned?  There are 5-1/2 times as many handguns as there are "select fire' or improper term AR's.

    that means 6.4% of guns are responsible for 26% of mass shootings
    that's high frequency 
    What does this mean?  what does it have to do with this?

    Everything I read says that handguns are far and wide used more in deaths and mass shootings.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    Cops aren't being killed w AR-15's.

    Most mass shootings aren't either.

    It seems to be the one rifle that is very taboo though.  That and the AK.  Everyone knows those names.
    26% of the last 80 shootings were AR-15....not "most" but it is clearly an issue.
    Handguns are by far the most used but again, the AR15 is the one that most people recognize.

    proper Risk Management addresses frequency and severity
    Which is a handgun.

    No, no it's not.

    U.S. Has At Least 20 Million Assault Rifles.
    (or "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges." for you ammosexuals out there)

    By … 2009, the estimated total number of firearms available to civilians in the United States had increased to approximately 310 million: 114 million handguns, 110 million rifles, and 86 million shotguns(36). 

    that means 6.4% of guns are responsible for 26% of mass shootings
    that's high frequency

    Semi-automatic rifles have been used in six of the ten deadliest mass shooting events.
    that's high severity

    /handguns need to be better regulated as well
    OK so I have to ask.  If most gun crimes are caused with a handgun, mass shootings, etc.  How is it not more frequent?

    Total number of firearms to me has zero to do with this so not sure why that is even mentioned?  There are 5-1/2 times as many handguns as there are "select fire' or improper term AR's.

    that means 6.4% of guns are responsible for 26% of mass shootings
    that's high frequency 
    What does this mean?  what does it have to do with this?

    Everything I read says that handguns are far and wide used more in deaths and mass shootings.

    Yes, handguns are used in more deaths and mass shootings.  Simply because there are many more handguns than assault rifles.

    Someone mentioned, "26% of the last 80 shootings were AR-15....not "most" but it is clearly an issue."
    While that may be technically accurate, it doesn't paint a full picture.

    When taken in proportion to gun ownership:  Assault Rifles are used in more deaths and mass shootings.

    /handguns need to be better regulated as well

  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    And pro gun = warrior against tyranny = taking up arms against US soldiers/police
    Yup... if people truly gave a f about police, they would be against allowing people access to AR15s, among other weapons of war. 
    Cops aren't being killed w AR-15's.

    Most mass shootings aren't either.

    It seems to be the one rifle that is very taboo though.  That and the AK.  Everyone knows those names.
    26% of the last 80 shootings were AR-15....not "most" but it is clearly an issue.
    Handguns are by far the most used but again, the AR15 is the one that most people recognize.

    proper Risk Management addresses frequency and severity
    Which is a handgun.

    No, no it's not.

    U.S. Has At Least 20 Million Assault Rifles.
    (or "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges." for you ammosexuals out there)

    By … 2009, the estimated total number of firearms available to civilians in the United States had increased to approximately 310 million: 114 million handguns, 110 million rifles, and 86 million shotguns(36). 

    that means 6.4% of guns are responsible for 26% of mass shootings
    that's high frequency

    Semi-automatic rifles have been used in six of the ten deadliest mass shooting events.
    that's high severity

    /handguns need to be better regulated as well
    OK so I have to ask.  If most gun crimes are caused with a handgun, mass shootings, etc.  How is it not more frequent?

    Total number of firearms to me has zero to do with this so not sure why that is even mentioned?  There are 5-1/2 times as many handguns as there are "select fire' or improper term AR's.

    that means 6.4% of guns are responsible for 26% of mass shootings
    that's high frequency 
    What does this mean?  what does it have to do with this?

    Everything I read says that handguns are far and wide used more in deaths and mass shootings.

    Yes, handguns are used in more deaths and mass shootings.  Simply because there are many more handguns than assault rifles.

    Someone mentioned, "26% of the last 80 shootings were AR-15....not "most" but it is clearly an issue."
    While that may be technically accurate, it doesn't paint a full picture.

    When taken in proportion to gun ownership:  Assault Rifles are used in more deaths and mass shootings.

    /handguns need to be better regulated as well


    That's a phrase I'll never utter again since it always diverts the discussion into a rundown of proper labeling of guns.
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