America's Gun Violence

wndowpayne

I bet this guy wished he had a gun..https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2018/05/21/something-was-wrong-with-this-cougar-animal-that-killed-biker-injured-another-was-emaciated/?utm_term=.ce139ff0d639
Bad taste but true..sorry..I AM NOT ADVOCATING GUNS...I dont own one either.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

wndowpayne said:

I bet this guy wished he had a gun..https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2018/05/21/something-was-wrong-with-this-cougar-animal-that-killed-biker-injured-another-was-emaciated/?utm_term=.ce139ff0d639
Bad taste but true..sorry..I AM NOT ADVOCATING GUNS...I dont own one either.

As an avid mountain biker... I can tell you that no biker goes riding with a gun.

There's still no reason to- that was the first lethal cougar attack in over 90 years. Further... there was something wrong with the animal. It was grotesquely underweight and desperate for food.

Meltdown99

wndowpayne said:

I bet this guy wished he had a gun..https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2018/05/21/something-was-wrong-with-this-cougar-animal-that-killed-biker-injured-another-was-emaciated/?utm_term=.ce139ff0d639
Bad taste but true..sorry..I AM NOT ADVOCATING GUNS...I dont own one either.

If you are on a bike and a predatory animal attacks you, do you think you’ll have time to get your weapon???

Smellyman

Some good pepper spray can do the job too.

Joggers and bikers trigger cougars into their predatory mode.

these could make you poop your pants.

Bear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMa5-n2OVc

mountain lion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNO2CUGPSl8

Stopped 2 Cougars with pepper spray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpB7jrJ7Zds

Gern Blansten

josevolution said:

whats pathetic is that this thread was started in 2014 4yrs later and how many dead just from mass shootings to many to count , and nothing has been done zero nada zilch ! like ive stated nothing will get done the NRA owns this country ..

good point....look at my initial post.  Same thing applies today

Thoughts_Arrive

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/pro-gun-lobby-blames-drugged-students-and-abortion-for-shootings-20180521-p4zggp.html

Fucking lunatic.

oftenreading

Thoughts_Arrive said:

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/pro-gun-lobby-blames-drugged-students-and-abortion-for-shootings-20180521-p4zggp.html

Fucking lunatic.

"Hardened target" with two armed police officers in the school, and still the shooting occurred.

So, we're moving on to arming teachers, then. 

dankind

My heart will never heal from this.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/997506332939956229

HesCalledDyer

dankind said:

My heart will never heal from this.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/997506332939956229

There aren't many things that can move me to tears out of sheer disappointment... but the first time I saw that clip, it was one of those moments.  Our children are growing up expecting to get shot in school.

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not admit we have a problem in this country.  And with the advent of the modern internet, the whole world is sitting there watching us do NOTHING to protect our kids, our citizens.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

HesCalledDyer said:

dankind said:

My heart will never heal from this.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/997506332939956229

There aren't many things that can move me to tears out of sheer disappointment... but the first time I saw that clip, it was one of those moments.  Our children are growing up expecting to get shot in school.

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not admit we have a problem in this country.  And with the advent of the modern internet, the whole world is sitting there watching us do NOTHING to protect our kids, our citizens.

Here's more truth that's tough to digest: we are, Dyer... we are watching you do nothing to protect your kids. It's a gross case of negligence. 

We've been watching you guys do nothing for many years now. It really speaks to the soul of America: all the flags at half mast and all the thoughts and prayers are hollow and meaningless.

mrussel1

Thoughts_Arrive said:

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/pro-gun-lobby-blames-drugged-students-and-abortion-for-shootings-20180521-p4zggp.html

Fucking lunatic.

I have to agree with him.  if there's one thing that can stop the disaffected youth, it's forcing a woman to have a child that she doesn't want.  I'm sure that child would be well adjusted.  Makes perfect fucking sense.  

OnWis97

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HesCalledDyer said:

dankind said:

My heart will never heal from this.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/997506332939956229

There aren't many things that can move me to tears out of sheer disappointment... but the first time I saw that clip, it was one of those moments.  Our children are growing up expecting to get shot in school.

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not admit we have a problem in this country.  And with the advent of the modern internet, the whole world is sitting there watching us do NOTHING to protect our kids, our citizens.

Here's more truth that's tough to digest: we are, Dyer... we are watching you do nothing to protect your kids. It's a gross case of negligence. 

We've been watching you guys do nothing for many years now. It really speaks to the soul of America: all the flags at half mast and all the thoughts and prayers are hollow and meaningless.

We have collectively decided that guns are like cars.  We value them to an extent that we accept that some people will be killed.  In both cases, we've chosen inadequate levels of preventing lax behavior that leads to danger.  In both cases, it's a culture that, while some have other ideas, the majority wouldn't give up under any circumstances and, therefore, accepts that some of us are going to parish.  The biggest difference is that  we are desensitized to automobile deaths.  But we are getting there with gun-related deaths.

cincybearcat

OnWis97 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HesCalledDyer said:

dankind said:

My heart will never heal from this.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/997506332939956229

There aren't many things that can move me to tears out of sheer disappointment... but the first time I saw that clip, it was one of those moments.  Our children are growing up expecting to get shot in school.

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not admit we have a problem in this country.  And with the advent of the modern internet, the whole world is sitting there watching us do NOTHING to protect our kids, our citizens.

Here's more truth that's tough to digest: we are, Dyer... we are watching you do nothing to protect your kids. It's a gross case of negligence. 

We've been watching you guys do nothing for many years now. It really speaks to the soul of America: all the flags at half mast and all the thoughts and prayers are hollow and meaningless.

We have collectively decided that guns are like cars.  We value them to an extent that we accept that some people will be killed.  In both cases, we've chosen inadequate levels of preventing lax behavior that leads to danger.  In both cases, it's a culture that, while some have other ideas, the majority wouldn't give up under any circumstances and, therefore, accepts that some of us are going to parish.  The biggest difference is that  we are desensitized to automobile deaths.  But we are getting there with gun-related deaths.

Another big difference is the value they play in every day lives.  

pjhawks

OnWis97 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HesCalledDyer said:

dankind said:

My heart will never heal from this.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/997506332939956229

There aren't many things that can move me to tears out of sheer disappointment... but the first time I saw that clip, it was one of those moments.  Our children are growing up expecting to get shot in school.

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not admit we have a problem in this country.  And with the advent of the modern internet, the whole world is sitting there watching us do NOTHING to protect our kids, our citizens.

Here's more truth that's tough to digest: we are, Dyer... we are watching you do nothing to protect your kids. It's a gross case of negligence. 

We've been watching you guys do nothing for many years now. It really speaks to the soul of America: all the flags at half mast and all the thoughts and prayers are hollow and meaningless.

We have collectively decided that guns are like cars.  We value them to an extent that we accept that some people will be killed.  In both cases, we've chosen inadequate levels of preventing lax behavior that leads to danger.  In both cases, it's a culture that, while some have other ideas, the majority wouldn't give up under any circumstances and, therefore, accepts that some of us are going to parish.  The biggest difference is that  we are desensitized to automobile deaths.  But we are getting there with gun-related deaths.

except since the 1970s we've had many regulations and changes in safety rules in automobiles. we are constantly evolving with car safety. hell my car now tells me when someone is in the next lane to me.  with guns what have we done to improve safety? we've repealed gun restrictions from 1990s.  can we really compare what we have at least tried to do with automobile safety with gun safety? i don't think so.

Gern Blansten

OnWis97 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HesCalledDyer said:

dankind said:

My heart will never heal from this.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/997506332939956229

There aren't many things that can move me to tears out of sheer disappointment... but the first time I saw that clip, it was one of those moments.  Our children are growing up expecting to get shot in school.

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not admit we have a problem in this country.  And with the advent of the modern internet, the whole world is sitting there watching us do NOTHING to protect our kids, our citizens.

Here's more truth that's tough to digest: we are, Dyer... we are watching you do nothing to protect your kids. It's a gross case of negligence. 

We've been watching you guys do nothing for many years now. It really speaks to the soul of America: all the flags at half mast and all the thoughts and prayers are hollow and meaningless.

We have collectively decided that guns are like cars.  We value them to an extent that we accept that some people will be killed.  In both cases, we've chosen inadequate levels of preventing lax behavior that leads to danger.  In both cases, it's a culture that, while some have other ideas, the majority wouldn't give up under any circumstances and, therefore, accepts that some of us are going to parish.  The biggest difference is that  we are desensitized to automobile deaths.  But we are getting there with gun-related deaths.

except we have to license and register cars....and take lessons to get our license...and pass a test to get a license

oftenreading

OnWis97 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HesCalledDyer said:

dankind said:

My heart will never heal from this.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/997506332939956229

There aren't many things that can move me to tears out of sheer disappointment... but the first time I saw that clip, it was one of those moments.  Our children are growing up expecting to get shot in school.

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not admit we have a problem in this country.  And with the advent of the modern internet, the whole world is sitting there watching us do NOTHING to protect our kids, our citizens.

Here's more truth that's tough to digest: we are, Dyer... we are watching you do nothing to protect your kids. It's a gross case of negligence. 

We've been watching you guys do nothing for many years now. It really speaks to the soul of America: all the flags at half mast and all the thoughts and prayers are hollow and meaningless.

We have collectively decided that guns are like cars.  We value them to an extent that we accept that some people will be killed.  In both cases, we've chosen inadequate levels of preventing lax behavior that leads to danger.  In both cases, it's a culture that, while some have other ideas, the majority wouldn't give up under any circumstances and, therefore, accepts that some of us are going to parish.  The biggest difference is that  we are desensitized to automobile deaths.  But we are getting there with gun-related deaths.

No, actually, things would be a whole lot better if the US decided that guns were like cars, because the rate of deaths from cars has gone down sharply over the decades, while the rate of gun-related deaths has increased. Why? Because a whole lot of attention is paid to making automobiles safer, given that a certain percentage of their drivers will be insufficiently trained or attentive.  Engineers pour over methods to improve automobile safety, roads are redesigned to minimize crash risks, we require training and licensing, and there are stiff penalties if you misuse your automobile, including the risk of being suspended or completely barred from driving. The USA does virtually none of that for guns. 

HughFreakingDillon

The Juggler said:

my2hands said:

I see the same people making excuses and saying nothing can be done

Pathetic 

The rest of the world continues to laugh at us. 

we're not laughing. we're crying with you. 

fife

HughFreakingDillon said:

The Juggler said:

my2hands said:

I see the same people making excuses and saying nothing can be done

Pathetic 

The rest of the world continues to laugh at us. 

we're not laughing. we're crying with you. 

To be honest, I am not laughing at America or crying with America.  I am just sad and disappointed with America. 

PJPOWER

oftenreading said:

OnWis97 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HesCalledDyer said:

dankind said:

My heart will never heal from this.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/997506332939956229

There aren't many things that can move me to tears out of sheer disappointment... but the first time I saw that clip, it was one of those moments.  Our children are growing up expecting to get shot in school.

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not admit we have a problem in this country.  And with the advent of the modern internet, the whole world is sitting there watching us do NOTHING to protect our kids, our citizens.

Here's more truth that's tough to digest: we are, Dyer... we are watching you do nothing to protect your kids. It's a gross case of negligence. 

We've been watching you guys do nothing for many years now. It really speaks to the soul of America: all the flags at half mast and all the thoughts and prayers are hollow and meaningless.

We have collectively decided that guns are like cars.  We value them to an extent that we accept that some people will be killed.  In both cases, we've chosen inadequate levels of preventing lax behavior that leads to danger.  In both cases, it's a culture that, while some have other ideas, the majority wouldn't give up under any circumstances and, therefore, accepts that some of us are going to parish.  The biggest difference is that  we are desensitized to automobile deaths.  But we are getting there with gun-related deaths.

No, actually, things would be a whole lot better if the US decided that guns were like cars, because the rate of deaths from cars has gone down sharply over the decades, while the rate of gun-related deaths has increased. Why? Because a whole lot of attention is paid to making automobiles safer, given that a certain percentage of their drivers will be insufficiently trained or attentive.  Engineers pour over methods to improve automobile safety, roads are redesigned to minimize crash risks, we require training and licensing, and there are stiff penalties if you misuse your automobile, including the risk of being suspended or completely barred from driving. The USA does virtually none of that for guns. 

Where are you getting your data from?  I realize this is a couple years old, but over the past few decades the gun death rate has actually decreased and pretty much plateaued.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/10/21/gun-homicides-steady-after-decline-in-90s-suicide-rate-edges-up/

oftenreading

PJPOWER said:

oftenreading said:

OnWis97 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HesCalledDyer said:

dankind said:

My heart will never heal from this.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/997506332939956229

There aren't many things that can move me to tears out of sheer disappointment... but the first time I saw that clip, it was one of those moments.  Our children are growing up expecting to get shot in school.

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not admit we have a problem in this country.  And with the advent of the modern internet, the whole world is sitting there watching us do NOTHING to protect our kids, our citizens.

Here's more truth that's tough to digest: we are, Dyer... we are watching you do nothing to protect your kids. It's a gross case of negligence. 

We've been watching you guys do nothing for many years now. It really speaks to the soul of America: all the flags at half mast and all the thoughts and prayers are hollow and meaningless.

We have collectively decided that guns are like cars.  We value them to an extent that we accept that some people will be killed.  In both cases, we've chosen inadequate levels of preventing lax behavior that leads to danger.  In both cases, it's a culture that, while some have other ideas, the majority wouldn't give up under any circumstances and, therefore, accepts that some of us are going to parish.  The biggest difference is that  we are desensitized to automobile deaths.  But we are getting there with gun-related deaths.

No, actually, things would be a whole lot better if the US decided that guns were like cars, because the rate of deaths from cars has gone down sharply over the decades, while the rate of gun-related deaths has increased. Why? Because a whole lot of attention is paid to making automobiles safer, given that a certain percentage of their drivers will be insufficiently trained or attentive.  Engineers pour over methods to improve automobile safety, roads are redesigned to minimize crash risks, we require training and licensing, and there are stiff penalties if you misuse your automobile, including the risk of being suspended or completely barred from driving. The USA does virtually none of that for guns. 

Where are you getting your data from?  I realize this is a couple years old, but over the past few decades the gun death rate has actually decreased and pretty much plateaued.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/10/21/gun-homicides-steady-after-decline-in-90s-suicide-rate-edges-up/

Gun deaths are on the rise again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/us/gun-death-rates.html