Virginia Tech shooting happened 14 years ago today 32 dead & 17 injured
mass shootings are now so common they happen on anniversaries of other mass shootings
WI 6/27/98 WI 10/8/00 MO 10/11/00 IL 4/23/03 MN 6/26/06 MN 6/27/06 WI 6/30/06 IL 8/5/07 IL 8/21/08 (EV) IL 8/22/08 (EV) IL 8/23/09 IL 8/24/09 IN 5/7/10 IL 6/28/11 (EV) IL 6/29/11 (EV) WI 9/3/11 WI 9/4/11 IL 7/19/13 NE 10/09/14 IL 10/17/14 MN 10/19/14 FL 4/11/16 IL 8/20/16 IL 8/22/16 IL 08/18/18 IL 08/20/18 IT 07/05/2020AT 07/07/2020
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up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,802
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
Show the cost of your hobby.
They should be shamed! But but you know that slippery slope the gun patriots always bring up.
jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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mickeyrat
up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,802
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
What’s 45 but a number? Oh right, it could be a POOTWH, a malt liquor or a particular firearm or caliber. Triple digits in a month wouldn’t mean anything either. Clearly, more guns are the answer.
well..i guess its another regular day in usa seriously..i saw tons of times in usa,,u guys go march for every god damn stupid thing but for ban guns...nope never go on streets for this to change.. ...its ok..lets have another bunch of people dead from a madman with a gun,... as long as a stupid shit from 1776 constitution doesnt change..we are good to go.. the land of the free,,,till u arent free anymore cos u got shot for a random lunitic
There have been countless marches, just not during a pandemic because, you know, people who want common sense gun laws respect human life, social distancing, and whatnot, so it's been more about pressuring policymakers, etc., during this time. For example, in lieu of their usual marches (plural) during this past year, Everytown reached out to families across the nation to gauge whether common sense gun law reforms are indeed something US citizens feel are needed. Spoiler alert: They do!
Parkland survivors literally started March for Our Lives, another group that organizes annual marches all over the country (and abroad).
Anyway, I've been participating in such marches since at least the early 1990s. Just because you don't see us on TV or on the Internet in Greece doesn't mean we're not out here fighting the good fight!
The problem is not that we don't speak up; it's that no one listens or cares.
Even with the likes of Michael Bloomberg, the richest motherfucker I've ever met, throwing a ton of his money and support at this problem, it still gets largely ignored.
well..i guess its another regular day in usa seriously..i saw tons of times in usa,,u guys go march for every god damn stupid thing but for ban guns...nope never go on streets for this to change.. ...its ok..lets have another bunch of people dead from a madman with a gun,... as long as a stupid shit from 1776 constitution doesnt change..we are good to go.. the land of the free,,,till u arent free anymore cos u got shot for a random lunitic
I share in your frustration, certainly, but "every god damn stupid thing?" Like Black lives? Reproductive justice? Women's rights? Immigration? Police reform? Voter rights?
well..i guess its another regular day in usa seriously..i saw tons of times in usa,,u guys go march for every god damn stupid thing but for ban guns...nope never go on streets for this to change.. ...its ok..lets have another bunch of people dead from a madman with a gun,... as long as a stupid shit from 1776 constitution doesnt change..we are good to go.. the land of the free,,,till u arent free anymore cos u got shot for a random lunitic
I share in your frustration, certainly, but "every god damn stupid thing?" Like Black lives? Reproductive justice? Women's rights? Immigration? Police reform? Voter rights?
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
Show the cost of your hobby.
Agreed.
My FB feed is full of idiots talking about how the FedEx people should have been armed. If we all walk around with assault rifles how do we know who the bad guys are? How do the cops know? I really can't believe the police aren't more vocal about this.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
Show the cost of your hobby.
Agreed.
My FB feed is full of idiots talking about how the FedEx people should have been armed. If we all walk around with assault rifles how do we know who the bad guys are? How do the cops know? I really can't believe the police aren't more vocal about this.
Fucking geniuses think they’re safer, but carrying a weapon actually has the opposite effect.
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
Show the cost of your hobby.
Agreed.
My FB feed is full of idiots talking about how the FedEx people should have been armed. If we all walk around with assault rifles how do we know who the bad guys are? How do the cops know? I really can't believe the police aren't more vocal about this.
Fucking geniuses think they’re safer, but carrying a weapon actually has the opposite effect.
America really needs to start putting money back into the education system, our country is dumb AF.
I remember arguing with idiots about this a few years ago when someone shot up an armed forces recruiting center. Some fat militia fucks showed up with their AR-15s to guard the center after that. How easy would it have been for a shooter to walk up to them, pull out a handgun and blow them away. What good does an AR-15 do in that situation?
Fucking morons
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
Show the cost of your hobby.
Agreed.
My FB feed is full of idiots talking about how the FedEx people should have been armed. If we all walk around with assault rifles how do we know who the bad guys are? How do the cops know? I really can't believe the police aren't more vocal about this.
Fucking geniuses think they’re safer, but carrying a weapon actually has the opposite effect.
America really needs to start putting money back into the education system, our country is dumb AF.
I remember arguing with idiots about this a few years ago when someone shot up an armed forces recruiting center. Some fat militia fucks showed up with their AR-15s to guard the center after that. How easy would it have been for a shooter to walk up to them, pull out a handgun and blow them away. What good does an AR-15 do in that situation?
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
Show the cost of your hobby.
Agreed.
My FB feed is full of idiots talking about how the FedEx people should have been armed. If we all walk around with assault rifles how do we know who the bad guys are? How do the cops know? I really can't believe the police aren't more vocal about this.
Fucking geniuses think they’re safer, but carrying a weapon actually has the opposite effect.
America really needs to start putting money back into the education system, our country is dumb AF.
I remember arguing with idiots about this a few years ago when someone shot up an armed forces recruiting center. Some fat militia fucks showed up with their AR-15s to guard the center after that. How easy would it have been for a shooter to walk up to them, pull out a handgun and blow them away. What good does an AR-15 do in that situation?
Fucking morons
When someone shows up to start shooting people, the open carry Gravy Seals will be the first ones shot.
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
Show the cost of your hobby.
Agreed.
My FB feed is full of idiots talking about how the FedEx people should have been armed. If we all walk around with assault rifles how do we know who the bad guys are? How do the cops know? I really can't believe the police aren't more vocal about this.
Fucking geniuses think they’re safer, but carrying a weapon actually has the opposite effect.
America really needs to start putting money back into the education system, our country is dumb AF.
I was curious about this and read the article but wanted to see the data but couldn't find the link to it.
I am curious as to how many shootings were of legal carriers. If you have random licensed citizens deciding to do an OK coral type shoot out then I have a problem with that. How are we stopping that? Better vetting?
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
Show the cost of your hobby.
Agreed.
My FB feed is full of idiots talking about how the FedEx people should have been armed. If we all walk around with assault rifles how do we know who the bad guys are? How do the cops know? I really can't believe the police aren't more vocal about this.
Fucking geniuses think they’re safer, but carrying a weapon actually has the opposite effect.
America really needs to start putting money back into the education system, our country is dumb AF.
I was curious about this and read the article but wanted to see the data but couldn't find the link to it.
I am curious as to how many shootings were of legal carriers. If you have random licensed citizens deciding to do an OK coral type shoot out then I have a problem with that. How are we stopping that? Better vetting?
Not being flippant, but if you google "do guns increase safety" there's no shortage of hits for studies on it.
What should a coronavirus memorial look like? This powerful statement on gun violence offers a model.
April 9, 2021 at 7:00 a.m. EDT
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The Gun Violence Memorial Project, a collaboration between MASS Design Group and the artist Hank Willis Thomas, is a wrenching experience. First seen at the Chicago Architecture Biennial in September 2019, the memorial consists of four gabled houses, each made of 700 glass bricks, with niches that allow families to display a few treasured items left behind by a loved one lost to this country’s scourge of gun violence. The memorial closed in February 2020, just as the coronavirus pandemic was beginning to ravage the country, but has reopened in Washington at the National Building Museum.
The houses have the simple geometry of a child’s picture of a house, and the objects displayed in the structures are small but potent: a bow tie that belonged to Jajuan McDowell, who lived from 2002 to 2016; a pair of sunglasses and the driver’s license of a boy who died at 17; a toy car, a wrench and a few inspirational words scrawled on a piece of paper, left by man killedin his mid-30s.
The objects were collected from people in Chicago, Las Vegas, Miami, Detroit and other cities, and the memorial is an ongoing project. The 700 bricks represent the weekly toll of gun violence in America. But if the memorial were to encompass the full, horrifying emotional toll of this tragedy, it would have to grow from four houses to a necropolis of thousands or more.
The memorial may become permanent in some form. “The installations in Chicago and Washington, D.C. are the first steps to recognizing the great need for a national, permanent memorial to gun violence victims,” MASS says on a website dedicated to the memorial.
Since the installation was seen in Chicago, the nation has suffered another epidemic that raises serious questions about this country’s ability to grapple with basic, systemic and existential questions. Covid-19 has claimed more than 500,000 lives in the United States. In 2020, gun deaths reached their highest level in two decades — nearly 20,000 from violent encounters, 24,000 from suicide.
Both plagues are ongoing, and while covid-19 may eventually be contained by mass vaccination, the virus rampaged largely unchecked for months because of this country’s political dysfunction. A culture of libertarian selfishness, grounded in historical myths of national exceptionalism and exploited by political and religious demagogues, has made it difficult for America to defend itself against self-inflicted tragedy.
The coronavirus epidemic has made the gun violence memorial even more powerful today than in 2019. It points toward a new generation of memorials that are fundamentally open, memorials not just to past traumas, but to present ones that seem to be expanding, and perhaps permanent. The pandemic has taught us that it is in the nature of America to stagger, not stride; to bleed, not heal. We are self-destructive and unwilling to make the basic changes necessary to get better. And our memorials must reflect that. They must be open-ended, expandable and dynamic, like our propensity to violence and death.
The dichotomy between open and closed helps make sense of recent history of memorial architecture. Closed memorials commemorate someone or something — usually with a statue or architectural element — that sends a contained, limited and agreed-upon set of messages: This war was good, this man was great. Closed memorials often reflect historical closure — the triumph of one truth over other possibly valid ones — with architectural closure. Friedrich St. Florian’s 2004 World War II memorial in Washington, with its ferocious symmetry of ovals and rectangles, and inward facing pylons and towers, is a classic example of a closed memorial.
Open memorials respond to the unfinished work of grief and the lack of historic closure. And now, a new generation of them responds also to the unfinished work of mass death. Where there’s no agreement on basic facts — whether the war in Vietnam was just or whether wearing a face mask is necessary — only an open memorial makes sense.
Maya Lin’s 1982 memorial to the Vietnam War was an open memorial — to those who died in a war that was still a fundamental fault line in American politics and culture. Lin didn’t invent the open memorial, but her work was so radically open that its critics felt compelled to “close” it, which they attempted by forcing the architect to accept a traditional sculpture — Frederick Hart’s bronze “Three Soldiers” — as a 1984 amendment erected near the open, V-shaped, subterranean wall of names.
The history of open memorials is perhaps best seen in spontaneous gestures of grief that are immemorial. These include the heaps of flowers left by anonymous mourners at a site associated with the life or death of a famous, beloved public figure. Or the small roadside piles of stuffed animals and religious tokens that commemorate a recent accident victim. Or even the impromptu potluck at the house of someone who has recently died, a gesture of ongoing and open-ended support by neighbors, friends and family.
It isn’t easy to capture that kind of openness with architecture alone. But as demonstrated by a concurrent National Building Museum exhibition that surveys MASS’s larger portfolio, the firm’s designers have a special intuition about “openness.” The exhibition includes images of their 2018 National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Montgomery, Ala., commonly known as the memorial to the victims of lynching.
That memorial, the most compelling U.S. memorial in decades, includes hundreds of steel columns, each one dedicated to a U.S. county where a lynching occurred. These are hung in an open-air, pergola-like structure. But the memorial also includes a duplicate steel form for every county, with the intention that individual municipalities or counties will claim the duplicate, bring it home and use it as a local memorial.
This is a monumentally scaled “open” memorial design, which depends not just on a building or fixed object but also on a process — the reclamation and adoption of local lynching memorials. The thousands of racial lynchings in the United States between Reconstruction and the middle of the last century may be historic events, but the openness of the memorial demands that we think of them not as past traumas but as resonant ones, fundamentally connected to an ongoing crisis of racism and systemic inequality.
Open and closed exist on a spectrum, and they aren’t synonymous with good or bad memorials. Closed design has a particular beauty, a balance of elements, a sense of protection and often enclosure. The Taj Mahal and the Lincoln Memorial are closed designs, and exceptionally beautiful. “Closing” a chapter in our history may be a way of making peace with the past, or at least moving to a place where past traumas no longer inflame contemporary conflicts.
And open design has its own set of challenges. Like the AIDS crisis, the covid pandemic is ongoing and may not have a definitive end point. The AIDS quilt, an inspiration for the gun violence memorial, was a classic open design and eventually became so large it could be displayed only in pieces. Today, it weighs about 54 tons. There is a dark, Borgesian danger to open memorial design, the threat that eventually the map of grief will be so large, and so detailed, it can’t be distinguished from the landscape of sadness that it maps.
Today, all signs point to the same fate for the Gun Violence Memorial Project. It can only grow — more houses, more memories, more grief — until eventually everyone has lost someone, and every one of these glass houses feels like home. Even then it can keep growing, until we are all dead.
That is the fear that will haunt our memories and our memorials long after the current pandemic ends. It is the fear that not only have we learned nothing, but that we are incapable of learning, and will be no better at warding off death the next time it marches on America.
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
Show the cost of your hobby.
Agreed.
My FB feed is full of idiots talking about how the FedEx people should have been armed. If we all walk around with assault rifles how do we know who the bad guys are? How do the cops know? I really can't believe the police aren't more vocal about this.
Fucking geniuses think they’re safer, but carrying a weapon actually has the opposite effect.
America really needs to start putting money back into the education system, our country is dumb AF.
I was curious about this and read the article but wanted to see the data but couldn't find the link to it.
I am curious as to how many shootings were of legal carriers. If you have random licensed citizens deciding to do an OK coral type shoot out then I have a problem with that. How are we stopping that? Better vetting?
Not being flippant, but if you google "do guns increase safety" there's no shortage of hits for studies on it.
The consensus seems to be no.
I wanted the info from this direct link which it did not supply. I get curious on how numbers are made and the data used is all. Some of these things they actually create their own scenarios to show how their data works.
Police on Jan. 6 charged only a handful of firearms offenses in Capitol-related cases. Because so few arrests were made on the scene that day, however, investigators say the true number of rioters who were carrying firearms will never be known.
In charging papers, the FBI and Justice Department allege that many defendants discussed bringing firearms to Washington, as well as not carrying them to the Capitol because of the District’s gun laws.
One of those arrested late Jan. 6 for not leaving Capitol grounds was Maryland tow truck driver Christopher Alberts. Police said they stopped him outside the building carrying a loaded black Taurus G2C 9mm handgun on his hip and a loaded, 12-round spare magazine in separate holsters, along with a gas mask, pocket knife and first-aid kit.
The oldest detained defendant, Lonnie L. Coffman, 70, of Alabama was arrested after returning to his truck parked near the Capitol, where police allegedly found 11 homemade, molotov cocktail-type incendiary devices, a rifle, shotgun, two 9mm pistols, a .22-caliber pistol — all loaded — as well as a crossbow, several machetes, a stun gun and smoke devices. Prosecutors alleged that the 11 jars were made with gasoline and melted plastic foam to produce a dangerous “napalm-like” explosion of sticky, flammable liquid.
Other charging and detention documents allege that many defendants discussed leaving weapons in vehicles, parking lots, hotel rooms, bags or with others to ensure quick access.
New York dating coach Samuel Fisher, also known as Brad Holiday, was arrested after allegedly posting on social media photos of himself at the Capitol and with firearms including a pistol and a rifle.
“If it kicks off I got a Vest and My Rifle,” he wrote, according to court documents.
Prosecutors have alleged that Erik Munchel of Nashville stashed weapons in a tactical bag outside the Capitol before bringing a stun gun inside. A search of his home found a legal arsenal of 15 firearms including assault rifles, a sniper rifle and tripod, other types of rifles, shotguns and pistols, a drum-style magazine, and other magazines and ammunition.
Searching the home of Karl Dresch of Calumet, Mich., investigators say they found a backpack containing a Hagerstown, Md., gas station receipt, a Metro transit card, radar detector, handheld radio and 160 rounds of ammunition. In his home they found a 12-gauge shotgun, a Glock pistol, a Remington rifle and a Russian-made AK-47-style rifle compatible with the ammunition.
A Dresch attorney said the weapons were “the type of ordinary firearms that are commonplace in rural households throughout America.” Attorneys for the other defendants have emphasized that they are not accused of weapons-related crimes.
D.C. police Officer Daniel Hodges said in a January interview that one reason he did not draw his weapon during the riot was that police understood the crowd to be armed.
“I knew they had guns — we had been seizing guns all day,” he said. “And the only reason I could think of that they weren’t shooting us was they were waiting for us to shoot first.”
I've always believed Americans need to see the actual carnage of these mass shootings before anything meaningful can be done. Make it real. Similar to the images broadcast home from the war in Vietnam.
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
Show the cost of your hobby.
Agreed.
My FB feed is full of idiots talking about how the FedEx people should have been armed. If we all walk around with assault rifles how do we know who the bad guys are? How do the cops know? I really can't believe the police aren't more vocal about this.
Fucking geniuses think they’re safer, but carrying a weapon actually has the opposite effect.
America really needs to start putting money back into the education system, our country is dumb AF.
I was curious about this and read the article but wanted to see the data but couldn't find the link to it.
I am curious as to how many shootings were of legal carriers. If you have random licensed citizens deciding to do an OK coral type shoot out then I have a problem with that. How are we stopping that? Better vetting?
Not being flippant, but if you google "do guns increase safety" there's no shortage of hits for studies on it.
The consensus seems to be no.
I wanted the info from this direct link which it did not supply. I get curious on how numbers are made and the data used is all. Some of these things they actually create their own scenarios to show how their data works.
Here you go - it doesn't mention legal / illegal carriers, but they did exclude anyone under the age of 21 from the study, as they are not eligible to legally carry:
Gunshot assault cases caused by powder charge firearms were identified as they occurred, from October 15, 2003, to April 16, 2006. The final 6 months of this period were limited to only fatal cases. We excluded self-inflicted, unintentional, and police-related shootings (an officer shooting someone or being shot), and gun injuries of undetermined intent. We excluded individuals younger than 21 years because it was not legal for them to possess a firearm in Philadelphia and, as such, the relationship we sought to investigate was functionally different enough to prompt separate study of this age group. We excluded individuals who were not residents of Philadelphia as they were outside our target population and individuals not described as Black or White as they were involved in a very small percentage of shootings (< 2%). Even after these exclusions, the study only needed a subset of the remaining shootings to test its hypotheses. A random number was thus assigned to these remaining shootings, as they presented, to enroll a representative one third of them."
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https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
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32 dead & 17 injured
mass shootings are now so common they happen on anniversaries of other mass shootings
they happen on days that end with y
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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There are no kings inside the gates of eden
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
Release pictures and videos of the crime scenes. Show the destruction these weapons have on the himan body.
In Sandy Hook those little kids had their little bodies literally ripped apart.
Show the cost of your hobby.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Thoughts and prayers to mike pence who as former governor of Indiana will have to come out against stronger background checks and tighter gun control.
Thoughts and prayers to the people will get their packages late.
All because insecure man babies living in fear don't want to be told they can't have something they shouldn't.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/16/us/mass-shootings-45-one-month/index.html
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Parkland survivors literally started March for Our Lives, another group that organizes annual marches all over the country (and abroad).
Anyway, I've been participating in such marches since at least the early 1990s. Just because you don't see us on TV or on the Internet in Greece doesn't mean we're not out here fighting the good fight!
The problem is not that we don't speak up; it's that no one listens or cares.
Even with the likes of Michael Bloomberg, the richest motherfucker I've ever met, throwing a ton of his money and support at this problem, it still gets largely ignored.
My FB feed is full of idiots talking about how the FedEx people should have been armed. If we all walk around with assault rifles how do we know who the bad guys are? How do the cops know? I really can't believe the police aren't more vocal about this.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17922-carrying-a-gun-increases-risk-of-getting-shot-and-killed/
America really needs to start putting money back into the education system, our country is dumb AF.
Fucking morons
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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I am curious as to how many shootings were of legal carriers. If you have random licensed citizens deciding to do an OK coral type shoot out then I have a problem with that. How are we stopping that? Better vetting?
The consensus seems to be no.
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What should a coronavirus memorial look like? This powerful statement on gun violence offers a model.
The Gun Violence Memorial Project, a collaboration between MASS Design Group and the artist Hank Willis Thomas, is a wrenching experience. First seen at the Chicago Architecture Biennial in September 2019, the memorial consists of four gabled houses, each made of 700 glass bricks, with niches that allow families to display a few treasured items left behind by a loved one lost to this country’s scourge of gun violence. The memorial closed in February 2020, just as the coronavirus pandemic was beginning to ravage the country, but has reopened in Washington at the National Building Museum.
The houses have the simple geometry of a child’s picture of a house, and the objects displayed in the structures are small but potent: a bow tie that belonged to Jajuan McDowell, who lived from 2002 to 2016; a pair of sunglasses and the driver’s license of a boy who died at 17; a toy car, a wrench and a few inspirational words scrawled on a piece of paper, left by man killed in his mid-30s.
The objects were collected from people in Chicago, Las Vegas, Miami, Detroit and other cities, and the memorial is an ongoing project. The 700 bricks represent the weekly toll of gun violence in America. But if the memorial were to encompass the full, horrifying emotional toll of this tragedy, it would have to grow from four houses to a necropolis of thousands or more.
The memorial may become permanent in some form. “The installations in Chicago and Washington, D.C. are the first steps to recognizing the great need for a national, permanent memorial to gun violence victims,” MASS says on a website dedicated to the memorial.
Since the installation was seen in Chicago, the nation has suffered another epidemic that raises serious questions about this country’s ability to grapple with basic, systemic and existential questions. Covid-19 has claimed more than 500,000 lives in the United States. In 2020, gun deaths reached their highest level in two decades — nearly 20,000 from violent encounters, 24,000 from suicide.
Both plagues are ongoing, and while covid-19 may eventually be contained by mass vaccination, the virus rampaged largely unchecked for months because of this country’s political dysfunction. A culture of libertarian selfishness, grounded in historical myths of national exceptionalism and exploited by political and religious demagogues, has made it difficult for America to defend itself against self-inflicted tragedy.
The coronavirus epidemic has made the gun violence memorial even more powerful today than in 2019. It points toward a new generation of memorials that are fundamentally open, memorials not just to past traumas, but to present ones that seem to be expanding, and perhaps permanent. The pandemic has taught us that it is in the nature of America to stagger, not stride; to bleed, not heal. We are self-destructive and unwilling to make the basic changes necessary to get better. And our memorials must reflect that. They must be open-ended, expandable and dynamic, like our propensity to violence and death.
The dichotomy between open and closed helps make sense of recent history of memorial architecture. Closed memorials commemorate someone or something — usually with a statue or architectural element — that sends a contained, limited and agreed-upon set of messages: This war was good, this man was great. Closed memorials often reflect historical closure — the triumph of one truth over other possibly valid ones — with architectural closure. Friedrich St. Florian’s 2004 World War II memorial in Washington, with its ferocious symmetry of ovals and rectangles, and inward facing pylons and towers, is a classic example of a closed memorial.
Open memorials respond to the unfinished work of grief and the lack of historic closure. And now, a new generation of them responds also to the unfinished work of mass death. Where there’s no agreement on basic facts — whether the war in Vietnam was just or whether wearing a face mask is necessary — only an open memorial makes sense.
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Maya Lin’s 1982 memorial to the Vietnam War was an open memorial — to those who died in a war that was still a fundamental fault line in American politics and culture. Lin didn’t invent the open memorial, but her work was so radically open that its critics felt compelled to “close” it, which they attempted by forcing the architect to accept a traditional sculpture — Frederick Hart’s bronze “Three Soldiers” — as a 1984 amendment erected near the open, V-shaped, subterranean wall of names.
The history of open memorials is perhaps best seen in spontaneous gestures of grief that are immemorial. These include the heaps of flowers left by anonymous mourners at a site associated with the life or death of a famous, beloved public figure. Or the small roadside piles of stuffed animals and religious tokens that commemorate a recent accident victim. Or even the impromptu potluck at the house of someone who has recently died, a gesture of ongoing and open-ended support by neighbors, friends and family.
It isn’t easy to capture that kind of openness with architecture alone. But as demonstrated by a concurrent National Building Museum exhibition that surveys MASS’s larger portfolio, the firm’s designers have a special intuition about “openness.” The exhibition includes images of their 2018 National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Montgomery, Ala., commonly known as the memorial to the victims of lynching.
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That memorial, the most compelling U.S. memorial in decades, includes hundreds of steel columns, each one dedicated to a U.S. county where a lynching occurred. These are hung in an open-air, pergola-like structure. But the memorial also includes a duplicate steel form for every county, with the intention that individual municipalities or counties will claim the duplicate, bring it home and use it as a local memorial.
This is a monumentally scaled “open” memorial design, which depends not just on a building or fixed object but also on a process — the reclamation and adoption of local lynching memorials. The thousands of racial lynchings in the United States between Reconstruction and the middle of the last century may be historic events, but the openness of the memorial demands that we think of them not as past traumas but as resonant ones, fundamentally connected to an ongoing crisis of racism and systemic inequality.
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Open and closed exist on a spectrum, and they aren’t synonymous with good or bad memorials. Closed design has a particular beauty, a balance of elements, a sense of protection and often enclosure. The Taj Mahal and the Lincoln Memorial are closed designs, and exceptionally beautiful. “Closing” a chapter in our history may be a way of making peace with the past, or at least moving to a place where past traumas no longer inflame contemporary conflicts.
And open design has its own set of challenges. Like the AIDS crisis, the covid pandemic is ongoing and may not have a definitive end point. The AIDS quilt, an inspiration for the gun violence memorial, was a classic open design and eventually became so large it could be displayed only in pieces. Today, it weighs about 54 tons. There is a dark, Borgesian danger to open memorial design, the threat that eventually the map of grief will be so large, and so detailed, it can’t be distinguished from the landscape of sadness that it maps.
Today, all signs point to the same fate for the Gun Violence Memorial Project. It can only grow — more houses, more memories, more grief — until eventually everyone has lost someone, and every one of these glass houses feels like home. Even then it can keep growing, until we are all dead.
That is the fear that will haunt our memories and our memorials long after the current pandemic ends. It is the fear that not only have we learned nothing, but that we are incapable of learning, and will be no better at warding off death the next time it marches on America.
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Police on Jan. 6 charged only a handful of firearms offenses in Capitol-related cases. Because so few arrests were made on the scene that day, however, investigators say the true number of rioters who were carrying firearms will never be known.
In charging papers, the FBI and Justice Department allege that many defendants discussed bringing firearms to Washington, as well as not carrying them to the Capitol because of the District’s gun laws.
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One of those arrested late Jan. 6 for not leaving Capitol grounds was Maryland tow truck driver Christopher Alberts. Police said they stopped him outside the building carrying a loaded black Taurus G2C 9mm handgun on his hip and a loaded, 12-round spare magazine in separate holsters, along with a gas mask, pocket knife and first-aid kit.
The oldest detained defendant, Lonnie L. Coffman, 70, of Alabama was arrested after returning to his truck parked near the Capitol, where police allegedly found 11 homemade, molotov cocktail-type incendiary devices, a rifle, shotgun, two 9mm pistols, a .22-caliber pistol — all loaded — as well as a crossbow, several machetes, a stun gun and smoke devices. Prosecutors alleged that the 11 jars were made with gasoline and melted plastic foam to produce a dangerous “napalm-like” explosion of sticky, flammable liquid.
Other charging and detention documents allege that many defendants discussed leaving weapons in vehicles, parking lots, hotel rooms, bags or with others to ensure quick access.
New York dating coach Samuel Fisher, also known as Brad Holiday, was arrested after allegedly posting on social media photos of himself at the Capitol and with firearms including a pistol and a rifle.
“If it kicks off I got a Vest and My Rifle,” he wrote, according to court documents.
Prosecutors have alleged that Erik Munchel of Nashville stashed weapons in a tactical bag outside the Capitol before bringing a stun gun inside. A search of his home found a legal arsenal of 15 firearms including assault rifles, a sniper rifle and tripod, other types of rifles, shotguns and pistols, a drum-style magazine, and other magazines and ammunition.
Searching the home of Karl Dresch of Calumet, Mich., investigators say they found a backpack containing a Hagerstown, Md., gas station receipt, a Metro transit card, radar detector, handheld radio and 160 rounds of ammunition. In his home they found a 12-gauge shotgun, a Glock pistol, a Remington rifle and a Russian-made AK-47-style rifle compatible with the ammunition.
A Dresch attorney said the weapons were “the type of ordinary firearms that are commonplace in rural households throughout America.” Attorneys for the other defendants have emphasized that they are not accused of weapons-related crimes.
D.C. police Officer Daniel Hodges said in a January interview that one reason he did not draw his weapon during the riot was that police understood the crowd to be armed.
“I knew they had guns — we had been seizing guns all day,” he said. “And the only reason I could think of that they weren’t shooting us was they were waiting for us to shoot first.”
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Gunshot assault cases caused by powder charge firearms were identified as they occurred, from October 15, 2003, to April 16, 2006. The final 6 months of this period were limited to only fatal cases. We excluded self-inflicted, unintentional, and police-related shootings (an officer shooting someone or being shot), and gun injuries of undetermined intent. We excluded individuals younger than 21 years because it was not legal for them to possess a firearm in Philadelphia and, as such, the relationship we sought to investigate was functionally different enough to prompt separate study of this age group. We excluded individuals who were not residents of Philadelphia as they were outside our target population and individuals not described as Black or White as they were involved in a very small percentage of shootings (< 2%). Even after these exclusions, the study only needed a subset of the remaining shootings to test its hypotheses. A random number was thus assigned to these remaining shootings, as they presented, to enroll a representative one third of them."