America's Gun Violence

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    mrussel1 said:
    So was it Covid that stopped these incidents for a period of time?  Cause it sure seems like that was a lull and now it's back full force.  Or was it just media reporting?  
    It's not media.  Today's was big.  It's so sad.  Christ. 
    No i mean it seems like over the last 12 months it hasn't been as noticeable for me.  Just wondering if it was just me and my focus or if there were fewer or just not as much coverage...or me just paying attention to different things this last year. 
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mrussel1 said:
    So was it Covid that stopped these incidents for a period of time?  Cause it sure seems like that was a lull and now it's back full force.  Or was it just media reporting?  
    It's not media.  Today's was big.  It's so sad.  Christ. 
    No i mean it seems like over the last 12 months it hasn't been as noticeable for me.  Just wondering if it was just me and my focus or if there were fewer or just not as much coverage...or me just paying attention to different things this last year. 
    There were fewer mass shootings but just as much run of the mill non mass shooting gun violence
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    only in america can you go to bed with news of a mass shooting and wake up to news of another one that happened overnight.
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    mrussel1 said:
    So was it Covid that stopped these incidents for a period of time?  Cause it sure seems like that was a lull and now it's back full force.  Or was it just media reporting?  
    It's not media.  Today's was big.  It's so sad.  Christ. 
    No i mean it seems like over the last 12 months it hasn't been as noticeable for me.  Just wondering if it was just me and my focus or if there were fewer or just not as much coverage...or me just paying attention to different things this last year. 
    I think it felt like less with all the schools shut down so no school shootings....
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,338
    Single digit victim mass shootings don’t even register with the conscious of ‘Muricans. Less is the new more.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,274

    FBI says it interviewed FedEx mass shooter last year
    By CASEY SMITH and RICK CALLAHAN
    4 mins ago

    INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — FBI agents last year interviewed the gunman who fatally shot eight people at a FedEx facility in Indianapolis, the bureau said Friday, as investigators searched the home of the 19-year-old former FedEx employee.

    Coroners began the slow process of identifying the victims as family members spent hours agonizing over word of their loved ones. The slayings Thursday night marked the latest in a string of recent mass shootings to rock the U.S.

    The shooter was identified as Brandon Scott Hole of Indianapolis, Deputy Police Chief Craig McCartt told a news conference. Investigators searched a home in Indianapolis associated with Hole and seized evidence, including desktop computers and other electronic media, McCartt said.

    Paul Keenan, the special agent in charge of the FBI’s Indianapolis field office, said Friday that agents questioned Hole last year after his mother called police to say that her son might commit “suicide by cop.” He said the FBI was called after items were found in Hole’s bedroom but he did not elaborate on what they were. He said agents found no evidence of a crime and that they did not identify Hole as espousing a racially motivated ideology.

    McCartt said Hole was a former employee of the company and last worked for FedEx in 2020. McCartt said he did not know why Hole left the job or if he had ties to the workers in the facility. He said police have not yet uncovered a motive for Thursday’s shooting but added that law enforcement officers seized a gun from him last year. McCartt also said authorities are still identifying the victims and that not all of the victims’ families have been notified.

    Eight people were shot and killed in a late-night shooting at a FedEx facility in Indianapolis, and the shooter has killed himself, police said. Multiple other people were injured Thursday night. (April 16)

    Hole started randomly firing at people in the parking lot and then went into the building and continued shooting late Thursday night, McCartt said. He said the shooter apparently killed himself shortly before police entered the building.

    “There was no confrontation with anyone that was there,” he said. “There was no disturbance, there was no argument. He just appeared to randomly start shooting."

    McCartt said four people were killed outside the building and another four inside. Several people were also wounded, including five who were taken to the hospital. McCartt said the slayings took place in a matter of minutes.

    Officials with the coroner's office began the process of identifying victims Friday afternoon, a process they said would take several hours.

    Police Chief Randal Taylor noted that a “significant” number of employees at the FedEx facility are members of the Sikh community, and the Sikh Coalition later issued a statement saying it was “deeply saddened to learn” that Sikh community members were among the wounded and killed.

    The coalition, which identifies itself as the largest Sikh civil rights organization in the U.S., said in the statement that it expected authorities to “conduct a full investigation — including the possibility of bias as a factor.” The coalition's executive director, Satjeet Kaur, noted that more than 8,000 Sikh Americans live in Indiana.

    The agonizing wait by the workers' families was exacerbated by the fact that most employees aren’t allowed to carry cellphones inside the FedEx building, making contact with them difficult.

    “When you see notifications on your phone, but you’re not getting a text back from your kid and you’re not getting information and you still don’t know where they are … what are you supposed to do?” Mindy Carson said early Friday, fighting back tears.

    Carson later said she had heard from her daughter Jessica, who works in the facility, and that she was OK. She was going to meet her, but didn't say where.

    FedEx said in a statement that cellphone access is limited to a small number of workers in the dock and package sorting areas to “support safety protocols and minimize potential distractions.”

    FedEx Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Frederick Smith called the shooting a “senseless act of violence.”

    “This is a devastating day, and words are hard to describe the emotions we all feel,” he wrote in an email to employees.

    The killings marked the latest in a string of recent mass shootings across the country and the third mass shooting this year in Indianapolis. Five people, including a pregnant woman, were shot and killed in the city in January, and a man was accused of killing three adults and a child before abducting his daughter during at argument at a home in March. In other states last month, eight people were fatally shot at massage businesses in the Atlanta area, and 10 died in gunfire at a supermarket in Boulder, Colorado.

    Indianapolis Mayor Joe Hogsett said the community must guard against resignation and “the assumption that this is simply how it must be and we might as well get used to it.”

    President Joe Biden said he had been briefed on the shooting and called gun violence “an epidemic” in the U.S.

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    “Too many Americans are dying every single day from gun violence. It stains our character and pierces the very soul of our nation,” he said in a statement. Later, he tweeted, “We can, and must, do more to reduce gun violence and save lives.”

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she was “horrified and heartbroken” by the shooting and called for congressional action on gun control.

    “As we pray for the families of all affected, we must work urgently to enact commonsense gun violence prevention laws to save lives & prevent this suffering,” the Democratic leader said in a tweet.

    A witness said he was working inside the building when he heard several gunshots in rapid succession.

    “I see a man come out with a rifle in his hand and he starts firing and he starts yelling stuff that I could not understand,” Levi Miller told WTHR-TV. “What I ended up doing was ducking down to make sure he did not see me because I thought he would see me and he would shoot me.”

    A man told WTTV that his niece was sitting in the driver’s seat of her car when the gunfire erupted, and she was wounded.

    “She got shot on her left arm,” said Parminder Singh. “She’s fine, she’s in the hospital now.”

    Gov. Eric Holcomb ordered flags to be flown at half-staff until April 20, and he and others decried the shooting.

    Chris Bavender, a spokesperson for the FBI’s Indianapolis office, said the bureau is helping with the investigation.

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    Associated Press reporters Michael Balsamo and Eric Tucker in Washington contributed to this report. Casey Smith is a corps member for the Associated Press/Report for America Statehouse News Initiative. Report for America is a nonprofit national service program that places journalists in local newsrooms to report on undercovered issues.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,338
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,908
    Yeah I wonder how many will now just go out to purchase guns I’m sure sales will climb! 
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821
    Hobbes said:
    My thoughts and prayers to the gun that will surely be blamed for this.

    My thoughts and prayers to the texas governor that will have to come out and defend every texans right to have a gun, lots of guns, so many guns.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    Hobbes said:
    My thoughts and prayers to the gun that will surely be blamed for this.

    My thoughts and prayers to the texas governor that will have to come out and defend every texans right to have a gun, lots of guns, so many guns.
    this is exactly the reason I get so annoyed with americans always asking me why it's my (and other canadians'/non-americans') business about american gun laws. simple: i have relatives in austin, and a few other places in the states. the US isn't an island. we all know and care for people there even though we don't live within your borders. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,338
    Nah, ‘Murica doesn’t have a gun problem. Clearly, more guns are the answer and solution. Clearly.


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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Hobbes said:
    We moved out of that neighborhood last month.  
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    Man I’m missing some comedy gold by not being on Twitter. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,274
    oh look. is this what they meant by good guy with a gun?

    A former sheriff's deputy was arrested Monday following a nearly day-long manhunt after the suspect's ex-wife and two others were shot to death in what authorities are calling a domestic incident in Austin, Texas.

    The incident took place around 11:40 a.m. local time Sunday when officers got a 911 call about a shooting. When officials arrived on the scene, they found two women and a man shot and lying near two vehicles that appeared to have been involved in a crash, the Austin Police Department said.

    The victims were pronounced dead at the scene. Officers later identified the victims as Amanda Broderick, 35, Alyssa Marie Broderick, 17 and Willie Simmons, 18.

    PHOTO Police and emergency personnel work at the scene of a fatal shooting April 18 2021 in Austin Texas Jim VertunoAP
    PHOTO: Police and emergency personnel work at the scene of a fatal shooting, April 18, 2021, in Austin, Texas. (Jim Vertuno/AP)
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    On Sunday afternoon, Joseph Chacon, the interim police chief of the Austin Police, told reporters that the alleged suspect, Stephen Nicholas Broderick, 41, was on the run and was considered "armed and dangerous."



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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    mickeyrat said:
    oh look. is this what they meant by good guy with a gun?

    A former sheriff's deputy was arrested Monday following a nearly day-long manhunt after the suspect's ex-wife and two others were shot to death in what authorities are calling a domestic incident in Austin, Texas.

    The incident took place around 11:40 a.m. local time Sunday when officers got a 911 call about a shooting. When officials arrived on the scene, they found two women and a man shot and lying near two vehicles that appeared to have been involved in a crash, the Austin Police Department said.

    The victims were pronounced dead at the scene. Officers later identified the victims as Amanda Broderick, 35, Alyssa Marie Broderick, 17 and Willie Simmons, 18.

    PHOTO Police and emergency personnel work at the scene of a fatal shooting April 18 2021 in Austin Texas Jim VertunoAP
    PHOTO: Police and emergency personnel work at the scene of a fatal shooting, April 18, 2021, in Austin, Texas. (Jim Vertuno/AP)
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    On Sunday afternoon, Joseph Chacon, the interim police chief of the Austin Police, told reporters that the alleged suspect, Stephen Nicholas Broderick, 41, was on the run and was considered "armed and dangerous."



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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,274
    this goes here too....

    April 19, 2021 (Monday)

    America today is caught in a plague of gun violence.

    It wasn’t always this way. Americans used to own guns without engaging in daily massacres. Indeed, it always jumps out at me that the infamous St. Valentine’s Day Massacre of 1929, when members of one Chicago gang set up and killed seven members of a rival gang, was so shocking it led to legislation that prohibits automatic weapons in the U.S.

    Eighty-nine years later, though, in 2018, another Valentine’s Day shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, killed 17 children and wounded 17 others. In response, then-President Donald Trump called for arming teachers, and the Republican-dominated Florida legislature rejected a bill that would have limited some high-capacity guns.

    Our acceptance of violence today stands in striking contrast to Americans’ horror at the 1929 Valentine’s Day Massacre.

    Today’s promotion of a certain kind of gun ownership has roots in the politics of the country since the Supreme Court handed down the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas, decision, which declared racial segregation in public schools unconstitutional. Since Democratic President Franklin Delano Roosevelt instituted a government that actively shaped the economy, businessmen who hated government regulation tried to rally opposition to get rid of that government. But Americans of the post-World War II years actually liked regulation of the runaway capitalism they blamed for the Great Depression.

    The Brown v. Board decision changed the equation. It enabled those who opposed business regulation to reach back to a racist trope from the nation’s Reconstruction years after the Civil War. They argued that the active government after World War II was not simply regulating business. More important, they said, it was using tax dollars levied on hardworking white men to promote civil rights for undeserving Black people. The troops President Dwight Eisenhower sent to Little Rock Central High School in 1957, for example, didn’t come cheap. Civil Rights, then, promoted by the newly active federal government, were virtually socialism.  

    This argument had sharp teeth in the 1950s, as Americans recoiled from the growing influence of the U.S.S.R., but it came originally from the Reconstruction era. Then, white supremacist southerners who were determined to stop the federal government from enforcing Black rights argued that they were upset about Black participation in society not because of race—although of course they were—but rather because poor Black voters were electing lawmakers who were using white people’s tax dollars to lay roads, for example, or build schools.

    In contrast to this apparent socialism, southern Democrats after the Civil War lionized the American cowboy, whom they mythologized as a white man (in fact, a third of the cowboys were men of color) who wanted nothing of the government but to be left alone (in reality, the cattle industry depended on the government). Out there on the western plains, the mythological cowboy worked hard for a day’s pay for moving cattle to a railhead, all the while fighting off Indigenous Americans, Mexicans, and rustlers who were trying to stop him.

    That same mythological cowboy appeared in the 1950s to stand against what those opposed to business regulation and civil rights saw as the creeping socialism of their era. By 1959, there were 26 Westerns on TV, and in March 1959, eight of one week’s top shows were Westerns. They showed hardworking cowboys protecting their land from evildoers. The cowboys didn’t need help from their government; they made their own law with a gun.

    In 1958, Republican Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona rocketed to prominence after he accused the president from his own party, Dwight Eisenhower, of embracing “the siren song of socialism.” Goldwater had come from a wealthy background after his family cashed in on the boom of federal money flowing to Arizona dam construction, but he presented himself to the media as a cowboy, telling stories of how his family had come to Arizona when “[t]here was no federal welfare system, no federally mandated employment insurance, no federal agency to monitor the purity of the air, the food we ate, or the water we drank,” and that “[e]verything that was done, we did it ourselves.” Goldwater opposed the Brown v. Board decision and Eisenhower’s decision to use troops to desegregate Little Rock Central High School.

    Increasingly, those determined to destroy the postwar government emphasized the hardworking individual under siege by a large, grasping government that redistributed wealth to the undeserving, usually people of color. A big fan of Goldwater, Ronald Reagan famously developed a cowboy image even as he repeatedly warned of the “welfare queen” who lived large on government benefits she stole.

    As late as 1968, the National Rifle Association supported some forms of gun control, but that changed in the 1980s as the organization affiliated itself with Reagan’s Republican Party. In 1981, an assassin attempted to kill the president and succeeded in badly wounding him, as well as injuring the president’s press secretary, James Brady, and two others. Despite pressure to limit gun ownership, in 1986, under pressure from the NRA, the Republican Congress did the opposite: it passed the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act, which erased many of the earlier controls on gun ownership, making it easier to buy, sell, and transport guns across state lines.

    In 1987, Congress began to consider the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, otherwise known as the Brady Bill, to require background checks before gun purchases and to prevent certain transfer of guns across state lines. As soon as the measure was proposed, the NRA shifted into high gear to prevent its passage. The bill did not pass until 1993, under President Bill Clinton’s administration. The NRA set out to challenge the law in the courts.

    While the challenges wound their way upward, the idea of individuals standing against a dangerous government became central to the Republican Party. By the 1990s, men increasingly vowed to take up arms against the government that talk radio hosts told them was bringing socialism to America. After April 19, 1993, when federal officers stormed the compound of a religious cult whose former members reported that their leader, David Koresh, was stockpiling weapons, talk radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones warned that the government was about to impose martial law. Angry opponents of the government began to organize as well-armed “militias.”

    In 1997, the NRA’s challenges to the Brady Bill had made their way to the United States Supreme Court. Printz v. United States brought together the idea of unfettered gun ownership and Republican government. The court held that it was unconstitutional for the federal government to require states to perform background checks. This both freed up gun purchases and endorsed states’ rights, the principle at the heart of the Republican policy of dismantling the active government that regulates business and protects civil rights.

    We are in a bizarre moment, as Republican lawmakers defend largely unlimited gun ownership even as recent polls show that 84% of voters, including 77% of Republicans, support background checks. The link between guns, cowboys, race, and government in America during Reconstruction, and again after the Brown v. Board decision, helps to explain why.

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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mickeyrat said:
    oh look. is this what they meant by good guy with a gun?

    A former sheriff's deputy was arrested Monday following a nearly day-long manhunt after the suspect's ex-wife and two others were shot to death in what authorities are calling a domestic incident in Austin, Texas.

    The incident took place around 11:40 a.m. local time Sunday when officers got a 911 call about a shooting. When officials arrived on the scene, they found two women and a man shot and lying near two vehicles that appeared to have been involved in a crash, the Austin Police Department said.

    The victims were pronounced dead at the scene. Officers later identified the victims as Amanda Broderick, 35, Alyssa Marie Broderick, 17 and Willie Simmons, 18.

    PHOTO Police and emergency personnel work at the scene of a fatal shooting April 18 2021 in Austin Texas Jim VertunoAP
    PHOTO: Police and emergency personnel work at the scene of a fatal shooting, April 18, 2021, in Austin, Texas. (Jim Vertuno/AP)
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    On Sunday afternoon, Joseph Chacon, the interim police chief of the Austin Police, told reporters that the alleged suspect, Stephen Nicholas Broderick, 41, was on the run and was considered "armed and dangerous."





    Research suggests that family violence is two to four times higher in the law-enforcement community than in the general population. 
    https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/police-officers-who-hit-their-wives-or-girlfriends/380329/

    If this is how they treat they're families, what hope does the general public have?!
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    oh look. is this what they meant by good guy with a gun?

    A former sheriff's deputy was arrested Monday following a nearly day-long manhunt after the suspect's ex-wife and two others were shot to death in what authorities are calling a domestic incident in Austin, Texas.

    The incident took place around 11:40 a.m. local time Sunday when officers got a 911 call about a shooting. When officials arrived on the scene, they found two women and a man shot and lying near two vehicles that appeared to have been involved in a crash, the Austin Police Department said.

    The victims were pronounced dead at the scene. Officers later identified the victims as Amanda Broderick, 35, Alyssa Marie Broderick, 17 and Willie Simmons, 18.

    PHOTO Police and emergency personnel work at the scene of a fatal shooting April 18 2021 in Austin Texas Jim VertunoAP
    PHOTO: Police and emergency personnel work at the scene of a fatal shooting, April 18, 2021, in Austin, Texas. (Jim Vertuno/AP)
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    On Sunday afternoon, Joseph Chacon, the interim police chief of the Austin Police, told reporters that the alleged suspect, Stephen Nicholas Broderick, 41, was on the run and was considered "armed and dangerous."





    Research suggests that family violence is two to four times higher in the law-enforcement community than in the general population. 
    https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/police-officers-who-hit-their-wives-or-girlfriends/380329/

    If this is how they treat they're families, what hope does the general public have?!


    FTFA: well this is terrifying...
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,917
    dudeman said:
    lol, yeah really. Look at the pinned tweet....



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    How does that saying go?

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    Good to see folks dredging the bottom of the gutter of twitter to try and make a point, whatever their point might be.
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    sarah beattie is a comedian.....a very filthy one at that. 
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