America's Gun Violence
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1) an over stressed teacher using it as a fear tactic to get their kids in linergambs said:
So are you more scared that they will be shot by a teacher than a student or someone off the street?HughFreakingDillon said:
no it isn't. I can't seriously fathom being for arming teachers even if I lived there. I have family in Texas and Wisconsin that have kids in elementary and middle and high school. it scares the fuck out of me that this may happen to one of them at some point. and I can't imagine any of my relatives are pro-arming teachers either.rgambs said:
Easy to say when you don't have kids going to school in America.HughFreakingDillon said:
NEVER as dumb as making teachers pack heat.rgambs said:
This sounds like head in the sand talk to me.my2hands said:Let me say this clearly...
Arming teachers is literally the dumbest idea ive heard in my 39 years on this planet... I'm shocked at how many Americans think it's a good idea, or even debatable... it's lunacy!!!
It's ok, there are George Zimmermans out there teaching, it's only a matter of time. Blood won't be on my hands
If I had a kid and his school allowed armed teachers, I would pull my kid out so fast their head would spin. I question any parent that wouldn't do the same
Guns suck, nothing positive comes from them. Nothing.
The guns are out there, hundreds of millions of them. They are walking into schools and concerts and nightclubs and malls and they are murdering people in scores. At what point does being the only person without a gun become the dumbest thing you've ever heard.
I don't think the solution to guns is more guns, it's working to get guns out of the wrong hands and working to get guns into the right hands.
Leaving kids with closet doors as their only protection sounds pretty fucking dumb to me.
2) said teacher possibly accidentally or temporarily insanely shoots a kid
3) crazy kid without easy access to firearms disarms teacher and shoots them/other kids
4) normalizing guns to the point that our children grow up thinking carrying a gun everywhere you go is totally okBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Geez, not like I've seen this right here on these boards. God forbid you use the term "clip" versus "magazine." And talk about "group think?"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/03/06/the-nra-and-its-allies-use-jargon-to-bully-gun-control-supporters/?utm_term=.335d11294523For an example, look to Dana Loesch, the conservative shock jock turned paid spokeswoman for the National Rifle Association, who represented the gun lobby’s perspective at a live televised town hallforum last month with survivors of the Parkland shooting.
[A gun won’t give you the guts to run toward danger]
There, the mother of a teacher who died protecting his students from gunfire asked Loesch: How could she possibly believe the Founding Fathers, who ratified the Second Amendment in 1791, anticipated legal AR-15s?
“At the time,” Loesch replied, “there were fully automatic weapons that were available — the Belton gun and Puckle gun.”
Focus on her word choice, not her misremembered history. (I’m writing a book on the Belton gun and can safely say her argument was bunk.) Here was the NRA’s top voice in a time of tragedy, defending AR-15 ownership as a bedrock constitutional right by name-checking two 18th-century manually operated flintlocks — quite incorrectly — as “fully automatic weapons.”
If, in the course of advocating for stricter gun laws, a Democrat, cable-news personality or Hollywood activist had called a flintlock a machine gun, the NRA would have hustled out a fundraising appeal to its members that same day with a video clip of the offending remark prominently embedded in the email. Instead, they’ve given their own spokeswoman a pass on the lingo, even though they once made a video that claimed media bias when gunfire deaths were referred to as “shootings.” Loesch doesn’t know what she’s talking about. She’s gunsplaining.
More recently, Tomi Lahren, a Fox News personality with no obvious qualifications, preemptively tweet-lectured “Lefties” that the “AR” in AR-15 doesn’t stand for “assault rifle” but for the name of the gun’s original manufacturer, Armalite. She failed to note that the family of Eugene Stoner, Armalite’s onetime chief engineer and the brains behind the AR-15, insisted in 2016 that he would be “horrified and sickened” to see his military rifle pattern become so common in civilian households and school shootings.
Lahren’s tweet is bad-faith gunsplaining par excellence. Its point is not to foster deeper understanding of these weapons, but to further a group identity of firearms owners as beset upon by a dumb or dishonest adversary, to flatter their insecurities and tell them they don’t need to take gun controllers seriously because you can’t reason with ignorance.
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In a gun free zone until it wasn’t.Halifax2TheMax said:
Ayeup. Just another “responsible” gun owner until they weren’t.my2hands said:Didn't a teacher just crack off rounds in a classroom and the school went into lockdown the other day?
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ANY type of rifle (including the evil AR) only used in 2% of murders.
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In a classroom where the teacher was carrying. Try to keep up.unsung said:
In a gun free zone until it wasn’t.Halifax2TheMax said:
Ayeup. Just another “responsible” gun owner until they weren’t.my2hands said:Didn't a teacher just crack off rounds in a classroom and the school went into lockdown the other day?
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It’s just 2%. What’s 2%? What’s the % of high casualty mass shootings recently? You know, Sandy Hook, Vegas, Texas, Florida, etc.unsung said:ANY type of rifle (including the evil AR) only used in 2% of murders.
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you convinced me, we should further restrict access to all types of gunsunsung said:ANY type of rifle (including the evil AR) only used in 2% of murders.
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Speaking of keeping up I have never said to arm the teachers. I want a pro. Get an ex Army grunt.Halifax2TheMax said:
In a classroom where the teacher was carrying. Try to keep up.unsung said:
In a gun free zone until it wasn’t.Halifax2TheMax said:
Ayeup. Just another “responsible” gun owner until they weren’t.my2hands said:Didn't a teacher just crack off rounds in a classroom and the school went into lockdown the other day?
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Read the article and you have your answer.Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s just 2%. What’s 2%? What’s the % of high casualty mass shootings recently? You know, Sandy Hook, Vegas, Texas, Florida, etc.unsung said:ANY type of rifle (including the evil AR) only used in 2% of murders.
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Tough guy is back!unsung said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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In the four I’ve referenced it’s 100%. Don’t need to read fake news to know which way the wind blows.unsung said:
Read the article and you have your answer.Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s just 2%. What’s 2%? What’s the % of high casualty mass shootings recently? You know, Sandy Hook, Vegas, Texas, Florida, etc.unsung said:ANY type of rifle (including the evil AR) only used in 2% of murders.
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Give me an example of why you would need an AR-15 or similar type of weapon?0 -
In 2014–15, there were about 13,600 public school districts with close to 98,200 public schools, including about 6,700 charter schools. In fall 2015, there were about 34,600 private schools offering kindergarten or higher grades.unsung said:
Speaking of keeping up I have never said to arm the teachers. I want a pro. Get an ex Army grunt.Halifax2TheMax said:
In a classroom where the teacher was carrying. Try to keep up.unsung said:
In a gun free zone until it wasn’t.Halifax2TheMax said:
Ayeup. Just another “responsible” gun owner until they weren’t.my2hands said:Didn't a teacher just crack off rounds in a classroom and the school went into lockdown the other day?
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Where are all these grunts coming from? How many of them have PTSD? Who is going to pay for them?
Society is tired of paying for your shiny boom boom hobby toys. You are a burden to us all.0 -
My town has 14 schools and has a cop in every school. When it is a necessity towns will find the money. Many towns around me are also are hiring retired policemen to patrol their schools.CM189191 said:
In 2014–15, there were about 13,600 public school districts with close to 98,200 public schools, including about 6,700 charter schools. In fall 2015, there were about 34,600 private schools offering kindergarten or higher grades.unsung said:
Speaking of keeping up I have never said to arm the teachers. I want a pro. Get an ex Army grunt.Halifax2TheMax said:
In a classroom where the teacher was carrying. Try to keep up.unsung said:
In a gun free zone until it wasn’t.Halifax2TheMax said:
Ayeup. Just another “responsible” gun owner until they weren’t.my2hands said:Didn't a teacher just crack off rounds in a classroom and the school went into lockdown the other day?
Lunacy.
Where are all these grunts coming from? How many of them have PTSD? Who is going to pay for them?
Society is tired of paying for your shiny boom boom hobby toys. You are a burden to us all.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
interesting video, a town in georgia requires by law (although it is not enforced) that every citizen owns a firearm. it is one of georgia's safest cities:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/03/07/kennesaw-gun-law-orig.cnn
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